Shut up, delete your account, leanmaxx to single digits and come back if you’re still lacking in the looks department.

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First of all, you need to realize that in order to get attractive women, you only need to meet the minimum looks threshold that women have.

If you've met their individual requirements, you're not a complete idiot in regards to social communication, she's single and looking to meet somebody, you don't need to be a 10/10 to get 10/10 women, regardless of what you may have been led to believe on PUA forums.

Anytime you see an attractive girl you can almost always assume that they have likely been with somebody who's worse looking than you at some point in the past.

For every attractive woman you see, there chances are extremely slim that every single guy she was with beat you out in the looks department.

So many men think they're so inhibited by their face, but it is almost always because they just haven't ever truly been lean.

They won't eat properly, they won't do cardio, and often they won't even lift weights consistently, but then they assume that they need facial surgery.

I don't think the majority of men realize how substantial of an impact fat and water retention has on their sex appeal.

It's very rare for a guy to look terrible compared to his former self when he's finally gotten shredded.

Granted, things like acne, skin quality, wrinkles, and other complexion related factors will play a major role on your sex appeal.

But, the meat and potatoes of your sex appeal will be dictated by how lean your face is.

The structure of your face is dictated entirely by fat content.

Get down to a single digit body fat percentage and then make a more informed assessment of your face.

Do not believe that the only way to improve yourself is cosmetic surgery because your perception is that you got the short end of the genetic stick.

More often than not this is not actually the case.

There are countless examples of guys' before and afters that had such average looking faces who all ended up looking great once they got lean.
 
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Water is wet
 
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Dnr
 
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Don’t you think the thread could’ve been a little bit shorter?
 
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First of all, you need to realize that in order to get attractive women, you only need to meet the minimum looks threshold that women have.

If you've met their individual requirements, you're not a complete idiot in regards to social communication, she's single and looking to meet somebody, you don't need to be a 10/10 to get 10/10 women, regardless of what you may have been led to believe on PUA forums.

Anytime you see an attractive girl you can almost always assume that they have likely been with somebody who's worse looking than you at some point in the past.

For every attractive woman you see, there chances are extremely slim that every single guy she was with beat you out in the looks department.

So many men think they're so inhibited by their face, but it is almost always because they just haven't ever truly been lean.

They won't eat properly, they won't do cardio, and often they won't even lift weights consistently, but then they assume that they need facial surgery.

I don't think the majority of men realize how substantial of an impact fat and water retention has on their sex appeal.

It's very rare for a guy to look terrible compared to his former self when he's finally gotten shredded.

Granted, things like acne, skin quality, wrinkles, and other complexion related factors will play a major role on your sex appeal.

But, the meat and potatoes of your sex appeal will be dictated by how lean your face is.

The structure of your face is dictated entirely by fat content.

Get down to a single digit body fat percentage and then make a more informed assessment of your face.

Do not believe that the only way to improve yourself is cosmetic surgery because your perception is that you got the short end of the genetic stick.

More often than not this is not actually the case.

There are countless examples of guys' before and afters that had such average looking faces who all ended up looking great once they got lean.
No leanmax for my 5’5 body
 
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Just lose that extra weight bro!
 
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Single digits is too low. 10-12 percent is ideal .
 
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DNRD
arent wast majority of young (<30) people naturally lean? How many fatcels do you think is here?
 
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it's about having a visible bone structure at average bf%, not because you look like an auschwitzcel

but then again, coping is perfectly legal
 
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it's about having a visible bone structure at average bf%, not because you look like an auschwitzcel

but then again, coping is perfectly legal
Some people don’t know what they look like, because they’ve never been shredded in their life, including me.

Not a guarantee that you’ll look like a slayer, but better for sure.
Even if you’re recessed, it will at least get rid of the double chin and you will have some sort of angularity which will look better than if you were bloated and fat.
 
Some people don’t know what they look like, because they’ve never been shredded in their life, including me.

Not a guarantee that you’ll look like a slayer, but better for sure.
Even if you’re recessed, it will at least get rid of the double chin and you will have some sort of angularity which will look better than if you were bloated and fat.

There's some truth to this, but the difference is not that drastic. People expect too much

I ve never been under 18-20% in my life and still had no issues with women
 
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There's some truth to this, but the difference is not that drastic. People expect too much
If your face is fat, then you have more to gain.
At least make a final assessment when you’re in the 8-10% bodyfat range to see your bone structure, base and what you really look like and the re-asses what you need to do to look better.
 
First of all, you need to realize that in order to get attractive women, you only need to meet the minimum looks threshold that women have.

If you've met their individual requirements, you're not a complete idiot in regards to social communication, she's single and looking to meet somebody, you don't need to be a 10/10 to get 10/10 women, regardless of what you may have been led to believe on PUA forums.

Anytime you see an attractive girl you can almost always assume that they have likely been with somebody who's worse looking than you at some point in the past.

For every attractive woman you see, there chances are extremely slim that every single guy she was with beat you out in the looks department.

So many men think they're so inhibited by their face, but it is almost always because they just haven't ever truly been lean.

They won't eat properly, they won't do cardio, and often they won't even lift weights consistently, but then they assume that they need facial surgery.

I don't think the majority of men realize how substantial of an impact fat and water retention has on their sex appeal.

It's very rare for a guy to look terrible compared to his former self when he's finally gotten shredded.

Granted, things like acne, skin quality, wrinkles, and other complexion related factors will play a major role on your sex appeal.

But, the meat and potatoes of your sex appeal will be dictated by how lean your face is.

The structure of your face is dictated entirely by fat content.

Get down to a single digit body fat percentage and then make a more informed assessment of your face.

Do not believe that the only way to improve yourself is cosmetic surgery because your perception is that you got the short end of the genetic stick.

More often than not this is not actually the case.

There are countless examples of guys' before and afters that had such average looking faces who all ended up looking great once they got lean.
Height, bones, pheno
 
Is single digit even needed?

I've been like 12-13% my whole life I think and my face is already lean, I don't seem to bloat ever, would getting leaner even do anything?
 
First of all, you need to realize that in order to get attractive women, you only need to meet the minimum looks threshold that women have.

If you've met their individual requirements, you're not a complete idiot in regards to social communication, she's single and looking to meet somebody, you don't need to be a 10/10 to get 10/10 women, regardless of what you may have been led to believe on PUA forums.

Anytime you see an attractive girl you can almost always assume that they have likely been with somebody who's worse looking than you at some point in the past.

For every attractive woman you see, there chances are extremely slim that every single guy she was with beat you out in the looks department.

So many men think they're so inhibited by their face, but it is almost always because they just haven't ever truly been lean.

They won't eat properly, they won't do cardio, and often they won't even lift weights consistently, but then they assume that they need facial surgery.

I don't think the majority of men realize how substantial of an impact fat and water retention has on their sex appeal.

It's very rare for a guy to look terrible compared to his former self when he's finally gotten shredded.

Granted, things like acne, skin quality, wrinkles, and other complexion related factors will play a major role on your sex appeal.

But, the meat and potatoes of your sex appeal will be dictated by how lean your face is.

The structure of your face is dictated entirely by fat content.

Get down to a single digit body fat percentage and then make a more informed assessment of your face.

Do not believe that the only way to improve yourself is cosmetic surgery because your perception is that you got the short end of the genetic stick.

More often than not this is not actually the case.

There are countless examples of guys' before and afters that had such average looking faces who all ended up looking great once they got le
 
Best post I seen (I need to listen) still 15 percent body fat but everytime I’ve got leaner I’ve got more women other shi does matter but most people have decent genetics that aren’t shown until their 12 percent body fat or below
 
It’s not just about being good looking enough for her, you need to be better looking than every guy she knows and has access to
 
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This girl told me she doesn’t think she’ll ever find someone better looking than me, which is probably why only after knowing me for like a week she’s already talking about us as if we’re really going to get married
 
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Also she’s a brown Muslim girl and we live in the uk where most brown boys have ugly Edgar’s and look like shit so that’s why she believes that
 
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I'm just here for fun.
 
Also she’s a brown Muslim girl and we live in the uk where most brown boys have ugly Edgar’s and look like shit so that’s why she believes that
You're lucky the UK became a 3rd world nation, now you don't even have to locationmax to stand out as a good looking white guy.
 
Also she’s a brown Muslim girl and we live in the uk where most brown boys have ugly Edgar’s and look like shit so that’s why she believes that
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Adonis belt tier lean at least. It should be lower bodyfat req than lean face
 
What about the fact that I am balding and I have skinny wrists?

I am already in the 12%-15% bf, I wouldn't have a problem getting to single digit body fat but with my 5'8-5'9 height, wristcel arms and balding, I would look like sick...
 
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What about the fact that I am balding and I have skinny wrists?

I am already in the 12%-15% bf, I wouldn't have a problem getting to single digit body fat but with my 5'8-5'9 height, wristcel arms and balding, I would look like sick...
Have you ever been sub 10%?

Balding is apart from your facial aesthetics. Go to Turkey and get a HT and maintain it with the current remedies.

Kinobody also looked bloated and kinda round at 12%, but chiseled at 6-7%.
 
Completely disregarding the fact that unfortunately some of us lack the bones

My friend who was practically never been lean in his life, always looked great in the face

Me on the other hand, was always skinny and my face was always fatter and more bloated compared to his
 
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Completely disregarding the fact that unfortunately some of us lack the bones

My friend who was practically never been lean in his life, always looked great in the face

Me on the other hand, was always skinny and my face was always fatter and more bloated compared to his
Have you already planned your bimax?
 
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You're lucky the UK became a 3rd world nation, now you don't even have to locationmax to stand out as a good looking white guy.
im pakistani but i get your point
 
 
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What about the fact that I am balding and I have skinny wrists?

I am already in the 12%-15% bf, I wouldn't have a problem getting to single digit body fat but with my 5'8-5'9 height, wristcel arms and balding, I would look like sick...
It’s sad that you think this way.

You are a 6’3” hunter eyed chad with North Atlantid pheno. You just need to see it!
 
It’s sad that you think this way.

You are a 6’3” hunter eyed chad with North Atlantid pheno. You just need to see it!
Bro stop trolling, fuck off
 
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Who are you to say I’m trolling? Can you read minds? No. Maybe I am less judgemental and able to see his true height.
He is 5’8. Just stop.
 
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No one is 5’8. Height is subjective. Who are you to decide his real height. You are only as tall as you think you are!
You’re so funny man
 

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