Skullpill and heightpill are the most important for male SMV

[Klasik616]

Not defined jaw, not good eye area
Bad skull = ugly jaw, bad harmony
Short height = bad proportions, low dimorphism

A bad skull affects all your ratios.
If you have a tall square skull that's not too wide you need height to not have kid proportions.
If your skull is too wide try making your frame wider too. But if your proportions are bad and you lack height, sorry it's over for you.

This is a wide skull, no matter how you change the inner part of the face, he will look weird.

Ideal skull, good proportions. It's hard to look ugly with this body.

 

[IAmWhite]

Not jaw, not eye area

example?

 

[2025cel]

Yeah the height of the skull ye mean?

 

[Klasik616]

example?

Wide skull, bad gonial angle, downgrowth, chin too tall, wide lower third and narrow head.

Yeah the height of the skull ye mean?

No, total height

 

[Swarthy Knight]

Said no foid ever

 

[IAmWhite]

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Wide skull, bad gonial angle, chin too tall, wide lower third and narrow head.

No, total height

just be a model theory

 

[2025cel]

No, total height

Ye but skull height matters too, tall skull >>> wide skull

 

[Klasik616]

Ye but skull height matters too, tall skull >>> wide skull

Destiny has a decent skull but looks bad on him cus he's a manlet.
Tall skull needs height, you see his complete body and his proportions suck.

 

[2025cel]

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Destiny has a decent skull but looks bad on him cus he's a manlet.
Tall skull needs height, you see his complete body and his proportions suck.

Of course proportions matter. Tall skull goes along with tall height.

 

[Klasik616]

Bad skull and short height : subhuman silhouette.
Impossible to have high SMV if you have both.