So how do you fix a face/looksmax when you lack "facial averageness?"

[Crayola CØck]

Many here have been talking about muh "facial averageness" saying gl people just have an "averaged out face" with 1 or 2 good features. Okay, BUT....

Okay, so if one lacks facial averageness, then is that concrete? Or is it more like harmony which is vague and unclear on how it can be improved case-by-case?

If I lack facial averageness or an "averaged out face" then what looksmaxxing should I seek to do, rather than one with "facial averageness" who needs just good features? How to "average out?"

IOW, what do us non facially averaged out types do (those whose phenos do not match the majority of those but stand out). What's the step in looksmaxing, what do? Many talk of this but no fucking body mentions how to improve lack of averageness just like lack of muh harmony or etc.

 

[Deleted member 16280]

I only see references to averageness in research articles. I don’t think it’s important tbh. By definition, an exceptionally good looking face is not average.

 

[Crayola CØck]

I only see references to averageness in research articles. I don’t think it’s important tbh. By definition, an exceptionally good looking face is not average.

Okay but I think the idea is "averageness" in that -- if you collect a large sample of faces -- the best looking are usually just an averaged out face of all of those samples with only something striking like eye area or coloring or maybe sharp, tall jaw or something like that.

But then the question begs, how the fuck does one reach this "averageness" if their pheno deviates by base originally from "averaged out?"

 

[Deleted member 16280]

Okay but I think the idea is "averageness" in that -- if you collect a large sample of faces -- the best looking are usually just an averaged out face of all of those samples with only something striking like eye area or coloring or maybe sharp, tall jaw or something like that.

But then the question begs, how the fuck does one reach this "averageness" if their pheno deviates by base originally from "averaged out?"

Hmm, maybe it’s the ratios and skull shape? High cheekbones aren’t average. Neither is a square forward grown jaw.

 

[Crayola CØck]

Hmm, maybe it’s the ratios and skull shape? High cheekbones aren’t average. Neither is a square forward grown jaw.

Yeah I don't know either. I guess I'll summon the autists, rotters & shitskins then: @Orc @Kingkellz @Allornothing @MakinItHappen @pneumocystosis @autistic_tendencies @Blackgymmax @enchanted_elixir @the BULL @thecel @Kamui @khvirgin @Pretty @Manchild @Xangsane @klip11 @DildoFaggins @Gaygymmaxx @WishIwasChico @AlexBrown84

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

Facial averageness is nothing
It's bluepilled soyence on whats attractive, same as those articles saying being kind is the most attractive thing in a man

 

[Deleted member 16280]

Facial averageness is nothing
It's bluepilled soyence on whats attractive, same as those articles saying being kind is the most attractive thing in a man

Wait, washing dishes isn’t the best way to fix a dead bedroom?

 

[Adonis007]

Many here have been talking about muh "facial averageness" saying gl people just have an "averaged out face" with 1 or 2 good features. Okay, BUT....

Okay, so if one lacks facial averageness, then is that concrete? Or is it more like harmony which is vague and unclear on how it can be improved case-by-case?

If I lack facial averageness or an "averaged out face" then what looksmaxxing should I seek to do, rather than one with "facial averageness" who needs just good features? How to "average out?"

IOW, what do us non facially averaged out types do (those whose phenos do not match the majority of those but stand out). What's the step in looksmaxing, what do? Many talk of this but no fucking body mentions how to improve lack of averageness just like lack of muh harmony or etc.

Get harmony first, prioritise the hardmax. Jaw, eyes, nose..

 

[Deleted member 30019]

Many here have been talking about muh "facial averageness" saying gl people just have an "averaged out face" with 1 or 2 good features. Okay, BUT....

Okay, so if one lacks facial averageness, then is that concrete? Or is it more like harmony which is vague and unclear on how it can be improved case-by-case?

If I lack facial averageness or an "averaged out face" then what looksmaxxing should I seek to do, rather than one with "facial averageness" who needs just good features? How to "average out?"

IOW, what do us non facially averaged out types do (those whose phenos do not match the majority of those but stand out). What's the step in looksmaxing, what do? Many talk of this but no fucking body mentions how to improve lack of averageness just like lack of muh harmony or etc.

 

[Crayola CØck]

Get harmony first, prioritise the hardmax. Jaw, eyes, nose..

Yeah jaw is very big but it doesn't always look good when the supposed "averageness" of the face is too deviated, or on curries either.

 

[Deleted member 23472]

if your skull shape isn't deformed you get your first step for ascension.
What destroys a face is a shit jaw and shit cheekbones or infraorbital eye area.
Cheekbones are most definitely everything, because they hold your face.
Jaw just helps to either make your face wide or shit looking. Jaw and cheekbone implants are all you need, besides orbital implants.

 

[Sasuke177]

Having the combined features of a population like an average eye size, lip size, and chin is probably going to be an attractive face (not the most attractive though), because it signals genetic diversity or some shit. Averageness shouldn't be vague or hard to measure at all.

 

[Deleted member 23472]

NEVER SAY ITS OVER

 

[Crayola CØck]

Having the combined features of a population like an average eye size, lip size, and chin is probably going to be an attractive face (not the most attractive though), because it signals genetic diversity or some shit. Averageness shouldn't be vague or hard to measure at all.

I didn't ask for the definition of nor the means of measuring what makes a face average stupid, I asked how to fix facial NON-averageness.

 

[Sasuke177]

I didn't ask for the definition of nor the means of measuring what makes a face average stupid, I asked how to fix facial NON-averageness.

nigga retard measure ur shit compare it and fix it like you would anything, fucking moron I thought you didn't know the definition cause question is retarded nannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

 

[Deleted member 39427]

Averageness is attractive because it means you will have higher familiarity, and people usually feel most attracted to what they’re familiar with, but it isn’t really important

 

[Magnum Opus]

Hmm, maybe it’s the ratios and skull shape? High cheekbones aren’t average. Neither is a square forward grown jaw.

Yes this is it, you need the skull shape and the facial ratios of the averaged out population of your pheno, as in the FWHR, total FWHR, MFR, ESR, etc.
It's pretty easy to see on a case by case base what would be needed for more averageness, especially after measuring the ratios of an averaged out sample and comparing it to your ratios directly

 

[Allornothing]

Didn’t read but poor masculine/feminine balance is what creates the ugly, uncanny, autistic PSL morph look. Averageness isn’t a good thing.

 

[tristanbongo]

high facial averageness means there are no extremes like huge or small ipd, very short or very long chin etc. it is not about a face being average on an attractiveness scale

 

[jagmogs1000]

Many here have been talking about muh "facial averageness" saying gl people just have an "averaged out face" with 1 or 2 good features. Okay, BUT....

Okay, so if one lacks facial averageness, then is that concrete? Or is it more like harmony which is vague and unclear on how it can be improved case-by-case?

If I lack facial averageness or an "averaged out face" then what looksmaxxing should I seek to do, rather than one with "facial averageness" who needs just good features? How to "average out?"

IOW, what do us non facially averaged out types do (those whose phenos do not match the majority of those but stand out). What's the step in looksmaxing, what do? Many talk of this but no fucking body mentions how to improve lack of averageness just like lack of muh harmony or etc.

i like to think of it as a psl scale versus a ‘normie’ rating scale. like someone who is a 4-6 on PSL could be rated 7-9 normie wise just because they look more conventional and not alien like. that is why jordan barrett went gay after having low female appeal

 

[enchanted_elixir]

Many here have been talking about muh "facial averageness" saying gl people just have an "averaged out face" with 1 or 2 good features. Okay, BUT....

Okay, so if one lacks facial averageness, then is that concrete? Or is it more like harmony which is vague and unclear on how it can be improved case-by-case?

If I lack facial averageness or an "averaged out face" then what looksmaxxing should I seek to do, rather than one with "facial averageness" who needs just good features? How to "average out?"

IOW, what do us non facially averaged out types do (those whose phenos do not match the majority of those but stand out). What's the step in looksmaxing, what do? Many talk of this but no fucking body mentions how to improve lack of averageness just like lack of muh harmony or etc.

Having too much facial averageness makes you look stale.

 

[DoII]

Ah