Socialism thoughts

[girthygirt]

wanna hear some more opinions after discussing it on one thread

 

[looksmaxxed]

it's cope for people who think if hey switched systems, they'll benefit.

spoiler alert: they won't.

 

[girthygirt]

it's cope for people who think if hey switched systems, they'll benefit.

spoiler alert: they won't.

this you?

 

[Terrortheplug]

explain socialism too me and then we can debate

 

[girthygirt]

explain socialism too me and then we can debate

1 - all I asked is socialism thoughts, love how ur going this way already
2 - While yes, I could give u a short definition straight from Marx/Engels or google. It won't display it well at all. It's a whole economic philosophy, what do u expect? The same thing would happen for Capitalism
3 - U saying you'll debate me makes me presume u have enough knowledge to not have to be given a definition

 

[girthygirt]

@registerfasterusing

 

[Terrortheplug]

1 - all I asked is socialism thoughts, love how ur going this way already
2 - While yes, I could give u a short definition straight from Marx/Engels or google. It won't display it well at all. It's a whole economic philosophy, what do u expect? The same thing would happen for Capitalism
3 - U saying you'll debate me makes me presume u have enough knowledge to not have to be given a definition

i genuinely have no idea what socialism is i never really listed to that shit in school but i would be happy to talk about it

 

[looksmaxxed]

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this you?

the difference between me and the typical welfare nigger is i can do perfectly fine without welfare, the latter literally cannot survive without it.

welfare is essentially a form of crime suppressant, to appease niggers who otherwise would resort to crime(many of them still do and many are also scamming welfare too)

it's a bad system based on a bad premise, ie rewarding the lazy while punishing the productive. might work for while, but not sustainable, as we're seeing now. people don't want their taxes going to dead weight, many like me are taking our taxes back by hopping on n33tbux ourselves and refusing to work and contribute to the system. how long do they think this ponzi scheme is going to work? they can't even pay social security for the boomers, and fuck them for voting and supporting socialism all the way.

 

[m0ss26]

Aristocratic radicalism is the only way

The retarded should know their place as workers for the high level thinkers

 

[m0ss26]

the difference between me and the typical welfare nigger is i can do perfectly fine without welfare, the latter literally cannot survive without it.

welfare is essentially a form of crime suppressant, to appease niggers who otherwise would resort to crime(many of them still do and many are also scamming welfare too)

Abolish welfare, people that NEED welfare to survive should be slaughtered

 

[girthygirt]

i genuinely have no idea what socialism is i never really listed to that shit in school but i would be happy to talk about it

my bad i genuinely just thought u were being petty from the response sorry man. Socialism varies definition to definition but typically is classified as seizing the means of production via workers, vanguard, democratic appointed leader all depending on the version

 

[girthygirt]

the difference between me and the typical welfare nigger is i can do perfectly fine without welfare, the latter literally cannot survive without it.

welfare is essentially a form of crime suppressant, to appease niggers who otherwise would resort to crime(many of them still do and many are also scamming welfare too)

it's a bad system based on a bad premise, ie rewarding the lazy while punishing the productive. might work for while, but not sustainable, as we're seeing now. people don't want their taxes going to dead weight, many like me are taking our taxes back by hopping on n33tbux ourselves and refusing to work and contribute to the system. how long do they think this ponzi scheme is going to work? they can't even pay social security for the boomers, and fuck them for voting and supporting socialism all the way.

Wonder why it's even created then. Because in capitalism, the poor stay poor and uneducated. While the rich live the same as Marie Antoinette.

 

[registerfasterusing]

@registerfasterusing

To me, socialism cant be limited to an economc apparatus, but rather must be approached as a method of restructuring the arrangements of society
I think it’s a more suitable way of forcing ppl to confront the reality of existing thru removing the ‘illusion’ of private property and individual agency. Although we must also be careful so as not to entirely relegate thought from the individual to the community, as to do so would merely distance one from the bleakness of truth they must ultimately meet

 

[girthygirt]

the difference between me and the typical welfare nigger is i can do perfectly fine without welfare, the latter literally cannot survive without it.

welfare is essentially a form of crime suppressant, to appease niggers who otherwise would resort to crime(many of them still do and many are also scamming welfare too)

it's a bad system based on a bad premise, ie rewarding the lazy while punishing the productive. might work for while, but not sustainable, as we're seeing now. people don't want their taxes going to dead weight, many like me are taking our taxes back by hopping on n33tbux ourselves and refusing to work and contribute to the system. how long do they think this ponzi scheme is going to work? they can't even pay social security for the boomers, and fuck them for voting and supporting socialism all the way.

billionares could contribute their wealth, or do u believe they should exist

 

[Terrortheplug]

my bad i genuinely just thought u were being petty from the response sorry man. Socialism varies definition to definition but typically is classified as seizing the means of production via workers, vanguard, democratic appointed leader all depending on the version

isnt that how the world works normally

 

[registerfasterusing]

my bad i genuinely just thought u were being petty from the response sorry man. Socialism varies definition to definition but typically is classified as seizing the means of production via workers, vanguard, democratic appointed leader all depending on the version

Is not js the social ownership of property and the means of production

 

[girthygirt]

isnt that how the world works normally

No its currently private ownership, same goes with housing.This has contributed to corporatism and companies owning houses and raising prices and controlling the means of production

 

[girthygirt]

Is not js the social ownership of property and the means of production

can u rephrase

 

[registerfasterusing]

can u rephrase

When property and the means of production are owned socially

 

[girthygirt]

No its currently private ownership, same goes with housing.This has contributed to corporatism and companies owning houses and raising prices and controlling the means of production

*free markets is what capitalism promises but yet the government insider trades and companies own smaller companies managing them and manipulating the markets

 

[girthygirt]

When property and the means of production are owned socially

lassified as seizing the means of production via workers,

same thing my bad i also later referenced vanguard party and democratic appointed leader

 

[Terrortheplug]

No its currently private ownership, same goes with housing.This has contributed to corporatism and companies owning houses and raising prices and controlling the means of production

so, what's better socialism or capitalism

 

[girthygirt]

so, what's better socialism or capitalism

socialism but every time its been put in practice recently (besides China), its been heavily hindered by the Wests regulations. ANd them not allowing a socialist country to fluroish. Look at the embargo put on Cuba and it's effects

 

[ProBono]

I haven't read Communist books but my thoughts are that Capitalism is a hydra that needs to be quelled or killed for the survival of the human race. Economically, Socialism has never been allowed to occur on an equal playing field with capitalism, which is my gut instinct, but statistics still show that the USSR was extremely inefficient etc. so my view on this isn't really fully formed. In terms of government I believe in either one nation with unparalleled influence like what the USA used to be or a single global government (non-democratic) which supercedes national governments and enforces overarching authoritarian measures like restrictions on AI, demilitarisation, nuclear disarmament, climate measures.

 

[GabachoCopium]

wanna hear some more opinions after discussing it on one thread

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