Software niche with low competition

[Jason Voorhees]

It is programming for legacy systems. These are often comple, mission-critical systems built with older technologies, such as COBOL, Smalltalk, and other programming languages from the 70s, 80s, and 90s. These systems are embedded in industries like finance, healthcare, and government, and they are often too costly risky to replace or fully modernize.

The more niche and outdated the technology, the higher the demand and pay tend to be. Many companies are looking for people who can maintain, optimize, or even gradually modernize these systems but the small problem is that there are barely any resources. You have to somehow educate yourself with older technologies, learning Mainframe and Cobol required at banking level is also not an easy task you also somehow nerd to gain experience about it, also the tools and environments used to work with legacy systems are often outdated and not user-friendly so it is quite a frustrating job but it does pay well and is pretty much the golden goose that people here keep asking for. Low competition, high pay and all th benefits of a tech job with none of the cons

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@Shahnameh @Chadeep

 

[_MVP_]

lool

too hard

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@PARISIEN @User28823

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@iblamechico

 

[Beastimmung]

Easiest way is too learn it at a job.

Best if you start while in university as a working students

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Easiest way is too learn it at a job.

Best if you start while in university as a working students

The thing about mainframe is the job openings are scare but if you do find it. You wont have much competition and the pay is going to be very high for barely any work

 

[Beastimmung]

The thing about mainframe is the job openings are scare but if you do find it. You wont have much competition and the pay is going to be very high for barely any work

They are searching for mainframe devs at my job, mostly curries apply that don't speak german. Problem being, the documentation is all in german, which also isn't done nowadays in non-legacy firms tbh

 

[iblamechico]

Well do you think you'll be aiming for this?

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Well do you think you'll be aiming for this?

No. I have already specialized in devops

 

[oily703]

isnt studying this just asking to get left behind?
i get that at the moment its not worth it to replace these systems but what about 10 years from now?

 

[Jason Voorhees]

They are searching for mainframe devs at my job, mostly curries apply that don't speak german. Problem being, the documentation is all in german, which also isn't done nowadays in non-legacy firms tbh

You are at advantage then as a native german you'd be ideal candidate

 

[Jason Voorhees]

isnt studying this just asking to get left behind?
i get that at the moment its not worth it to replace these systems but what about 10 years from now?

That is the thing with all tech jobs tbh. It is always evolving. Like blockchain engineer was a big thing in 2022 but now there's nothing. Prompts engineer had their lime light for 4-5 months too but for thr foreseeable future you can earn good money in mainframe.

 

[Charles the Fat]

Mirin the intelligence of those who can do these jobs

 

[laaltin]

Apply to “easy” finance jobs like credit risk modelling etc.

 

[iblamechico]

That is the thing with all tech jobs tbh. It is always evolving. Like blockchain engineer was a big thing in 2022 but now there's nothing. Prompts engineer had their lime light for 4-5 months too but for thr foreseeable future you can earn good money in mainframe.

This is the brutal part. You gotta be constantly learning new shit and I'm lazy as fuck.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Apply to “easy” finance jobs like credit risk modelling etc.

Very steep learning curve and requires domain specific knowledge and barely any job openings

 

[Jason Voorhees]

This is the brutal part. You gotta be constantly learning new shit and I'm lazy as fuck.

Why did you choose engineering then nigga?

 

[iblamechico]

Why did you choose engineering then nigga?

Peer pressure

 

[laaltin]

Very steep learning curve and requires domain specific knowledge and barely any job openings

Brah just learn stochastics and python, you’re gucci then. There should be more jobs than those legacy systems.

 

[PARISIEN]

You can learn those but you’ll hate your life, I was talking to a senior 2 years ago and he told me how the old code is trash and was made by noob.

I told him to show me, then I’ve seen multiple file of between 1k or 20k line of code

Copy pasta of 500 or 600 line of code where only on line change,

It was disgusting, I told him it look like a projet from when I was in school and I had only 2 days to finish it,

He LmaoED and told me « exactly »


OVER

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Bump

 

[RICHCELDOM]

It is programming for legacy systems. These are often comple, mission-critical systems built with older technologies, such as COBOL, Smalltalk, and other programming languages from the 70s, 80s, and 90s. These systems are embedded in industries like finance, healthcare, and government, and they are often too costly risky to replace or fully modernize.

The more niche and outdated the technology, the higher the demand and pay tend to be. Many companies are looking for people who can maintain, optimize, or even gradually modernize these systems but the small problem is that there are barely any resources. You have to somehow educate yourself with older technologies, learning Mainframe and Cobol required at banking level is also not an easy task you also somehow nerd to gain experience about it, also the tools and environments used to work with legacy systems are often outdated and not user-friendly so it is quite a frustrating job but it does pay well and is pretty much the golden goose that people here keep asking for. Low competition, high pay and all th benefits of a tech job with none of the cons

I like you now

 

[RICHCELDOM]

I'm learning Rust as my niche. It's much harder than Python but very useful and its popularity has been on the rise.

 

[Shahnameh]

A while ago there was a user on the Money Making section that posted about a short course he did, and he got a really easy Web Development Role that paid like over a 100k per year. Not sure how to find that specific thread

I often see Cloud Support being mentioned but thats on Reddit and they often give shit advice.

Also heard web scraping specialist mentioned several times but not sure how good that is.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

I'm learning Rust as my niche. It's much harder than Python but very useful and its popularity has been on the rise.

A while ago there was a user on the Money Making section that posted about a short course he did, and he got a really easy Web Development Role that paid like over a 100k per year. Not sure how to find that specific thread

I often see Cloud Support being mentioned but thats on Reddit and they often give shit advice.

Also heard web scraping specialist mentioned several times but not sure how good that is.

The problem with Data Mining, ML engineers is that most people hiring for such positions require you to have multiple years of experience in IT. They are narely any entry level jobs. I mean I have experience with python libraries I learnt it as a part of my course in uni but it never interested me because it seems to be very frustarting and tedious process so I never learnt it in depth.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@我需要阴部

 

[我需要阴部]

It is programming for legacy systems. These are often comple, mission-critical systems built with older technologies, such as COBOL, Smalltalk, and other programming languages from the 70s, 80s, and 90s. These systems are embedded in industries like finance, healthcare, and government, and they are often too costly risky to replace or fully modernize.

The more niche and outdated the technology, the higher the demand and pay tend to be. Many companies are looking for people who can maintain, optimize, or even gradually modernize these systems but the small problem is that there are barely any resources. You have to somehow educate yourself with older technologies, learning Mainframe and Cobol required at banking level is also not an easy task you also somehow nerd to gain experience about it, also the tools and environments used to work with legacy systems are often outdated and not user-friendly so it is quite a frustrating job but it does pay well and is pretty much the golden goose that people here keep asking for. Low competition, high pay and all th benefits of a tech job with none of the cons

so the issue with this is that it's very difficult to find an institution who teaches this every place is trying to one up each other on teaching whatever is the newest system and use key buzzwords lik ''AI'' or ''Machine learning''

The death of quality education is real.