Something ive noticed from religious people.

[Joaquin]

Most people that Focus on religion are lost in Life, they are living in hell, usually because they are ugly or have no motivation in Life and they try to find some good cope and that is religion, following something that has no real proof whatsoever ,hoping that after they die, they Will go to Heaven.
No offense to religious people but I think this is a truth.

 

[Deleted member 48352]

religion is for weaklings

 

[Deleted member 115294]

dont blame them, its tough to find meaning on ur own

 

[Deleted member 48352]

religious people very fuckable i must destroy their perceived purity

 

[Volksstaffel]

Most people that Focus on religion are lost in Life, they are living in hell, usually because they are ugly or have no motivation in Life and they try to find some good cope and that is religion, following something that has no real proof whatsoever ,hoping that after they die, they Will go to Heaven.
No offense to religious people but I think this is a truth.

1. WE are religious

2. They are happier than us

 

[Joaquin]

dont blame them, its tough to find meaning on ur own

There is no real meaning to Life, just do wathever fullfills you

 

[Deleted member 115294]

There is no real meaning to Life, just do wathever fullfills you

i agree, but on the end of the day most of the people saying that still have suicidal thoughts and the religious ones with meaning still cope with muh heaven

 

[Tyler1]

There is no real meaning to Life, just do wathever fullfills you

rapping

 

[BadLuck7892]

You're right. I have an example to prove it.

I know a virgin guy who's my age (33)

He's super religious (but is willing to break the rule about premarital sex; he just has a hard time finding a foid)

When I told him I'm an atheist, he said a life without God sounds empty (that's rich...a 33 year old virgin calling someone else's life empty)

 

[sub5outsider]

people that are really against religion are more damaged in my opinion but ive said that in the past

 

[160cmcurry]

they’re not smart, don’t even really follow the religion 100%, don’t fully believe in it either, just pick and choose whatever fits their cope. not even worth arguing with them on their beliefs. they’ll just twist it around to protect their little fantasy delusions

 

[Joaquin]

You're right. I have an example to prove it.

I know a virgin guy who's my age (33)

He's super religious (but is willing to break the rule about premarital sex; he just has a hard time finding a foid)

When I told him I'm an atheist, he said a life without God sounds empty (that's rich...a 33 year old virgin calling someone else's life empty)

Literally all the guys I know that are religious are either ugly, short, or poor( or all of them)....

 

[Joaquin]

Bumpppp

 

[FoolYoungHi]

Yes it's a huge cope for a lot of people. But necessary for some. Otherwise they would crash out completely or get depressed which is WORSE than being religious.

I wish I could believe in religion and cope hard. I used to believe in religion in the past for a period of a few years and I felt good because I accepted my suffering and bad place in life.

 

[Joaquin]

Yes it's a huge cope for a lot of people. But necessary for some. Otherwise they would crash out completely or get depressed which is WORSE than being religious.

I wish I could believe in religion and cope hard. I used to believe in religion in the past for a period of a few years and I felt good because I accepted my suffering and bad place in life.

Same, till last year I was "religious"because I was depressed and my Life was messed Up , and now I know the truth.
My Life still bad tho

 

[Whatever]

This is true and it also goes for social and political movements like MAGA, communism, etc.

There are a bunch of examples from my own life to back this up. But on a much broader scale I’ve noticed that 10-15 years ago, atheism and agnosticism were on the rise. But society started to go downhill and people were shoved into groups and since then, there has been a U turn, now religion is back on the rise. It takes independence, acceptance, open mindedness, and a bunch of other qualities to go through life as atheist or especially agnostic, that’s just too difficult for a lot of people. I understand why it’s happening but it’s just been so alienating to watch my views get pushed aside and the type of shittiness that pushes people to religion and cults take over again, people very close to me included.

 

[BadLuck7892]

Literally all the guys I know that are religious are either ugly, short, or poor( or all of them)....

It doesn't help that religion discourages wealth.

 

[itmightjustbeover]

Most people that Focus on religion are lost in Life, they are living in hell, usually because they are ugly or have no motivation in Life and they try to find some good cope and that is religion, following something that has no real proof whatsoever ,hoping that after they die, they Will go to Heaven.
No offense to religious people but I think this is a truth.

Theology in general has never been objected to the fucking blackpill or looks in general. Sure some people use religion as an excuse to slack off, doing jack shit all day etc etc you get the fucking point. Your "judgement" of the philosophy of religion is incredibly, and I mean INCREDIBLY circumstantial and in most cases its because of different reasons as to why people may become religious. Instead of giving literally fucking useless cynical criticism how about you actually learn a thing or two about fucken theology in general. just stick to maxxing them looks brah

 

[CEO]

DNR'd Tyler Maher, valiant attempt.
I hear your qualms regardless bro.
Wish we knew why He allows things to happen the way they do...

All glory and praise to the most high.

 

[Joaquin]

Theology in general has never been objected to the fucking blackpill or looks in general. Sure some people use religion as an excuse to slack off, doing jack shit all day etc etc you get the fucking point. Your "judgement" of the philosophy of religion is incredibly, and I mean INCREDIBLY circumstantial and in most cases its because of different reasons as to why people may become religious. Instead of giving literally fucking useless cynical criticism how about you actually learn a thing or two about fucken theology in general. just stick to maxxing them looks brah

You got so mad lol. What I said is not incredible circumstantial

 

[itmightjustbeover]

You got so mad lol. What I said is not incredible circumstantial

I'm not mad at all lolz Just saying man, if you're gonna go out of your way to make claims regarding theology on fucken .org you should at the very least have a solid base to back up the said claim. If you have specific questions, I like considering myself ever so slightly educated in this matter (philosophy of religion) so feel free to ask away. God bless

 

[Joaquin]

I'm not mad at all lolz Just saying man, if you're gonna go out of your way to make claims regarding theology on fucken .org you should at the very least have a solid base to back up the said claim. If you have specific questions, I like considering myself ever so slightly educated in this matter (philosophy of religion) so feel free to ask away. God bless

the evidence is around you.
A great percentage of people I know irl that are religious are having or used to have a bad life

 

[Ogionth]

the evidence is around you.
A great percentage of people I know irl that are religious are having or used to have a bad life

Religiosity and Overall Life Satisfaction: Muslim Arabs in Israel - PubMed

Previous research suggests that greater religiosity is associated with higher levels of overall life satisfaction. However, previous research has focused primarily on Christian populations, and few have specifically analyzed Muslim populations. We examine the association between religiosity and...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

over for you buddy.

muslims are the one with the greatest life satisfaction, whether or not you think their lifes are "bad" according to you

 

[Ogionth]

Religiosity and Overall Life Satisfaction: Muslim Arabs in Israel - PubMed

Previous research suggests that greater religiosity is associated with higher levels of overall life satisfaction. However, previous research has focused primarily on Christian populations, and few have specifically analyzed Muslim populations. We examine the association between religiosity and...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

over for you buddy.

muslims are the one with the greatest life satisfaction, whether or not you think their lifes are "bad" according to you

Countless more studies regarding how "Muslims are the ppl that are the most satisfied about their lives".

+ Least suicide rate. (Before you cope with "muh if they suicide they go to hell, well do they go to heaven in christianity? why's it higher?, and more importantly if they have more life satisfaction then they automatically, will have lower suicide rate as seen in many studies)

Keep coping with your illogical atheism.

 

[Ogionth]

Countless more studies regarding how "Muslims are the ppl that are the most satisfied about their lives".

+ Least suicide rate.

View attachment 3756565

Keep coping with your illogical atheism.

MUHH SAAR BAD LIVES SAR

 

[Joaquin]

Countless more studies regarding how "Muslims are the ppl that are the most satisfied about their lives".

+ Least suicide rate.

View attachment 3756565

Keep coping with your illogical atheism.

Yeah they are the most satisfied about their lives because they have found a good cope so they can live in their delusion

 

[Ogionth]

Yeah they are the most satisfied about their lives because they have found a good cope so they can live in their delusion

retard.

that's not satisfaction,

if that were true then all of the religions would have had the same graph since all of them are delusionary, as you call them.

infact it should've been lower for christianity since even sinful christians go to heaven directly as opposed to islam where they are purified in hell for the sins that weren't repented for.

shouldn't that have given them a greater delusion, thus more satisfaction and thus less suicide rates as you have speculated?

then why is the graph for Islam so low?


It's you who is coping in your delusion,

yes something come from nothing saar

you do not want to be held accountable for the atrocities you have done and that is why you don't want a God to exist, but he is free of your thoughts and you will be held accountable buddy.

absolute retard

 

[enochian]

 

[Joaquin]

retard.

that's not satisfaction,

if that were true then all of the religions would have had the same graph since all of them are delusionary, as you call them.

infact it should've been lower for christianity since even sinful christians go to heaven directly as opposed to islam where they are purified in hell for the sins that weren't repented for.

shouldn't that have given them a greater delusion, thus more satisfaction and thus less suicide rates as you have speculated?

then why is the graph for Islam so low?


It's you who is coping in your delusion,

yes something come from nothing saar

you do not want to be held accountable for the atrocities you have done and that is why you don't want a God to exist, but he is free of your thoughts and you will be held accountable buddy.

absolute retard

You are the absolute retard here.
Keep praying to allah buddy.

 

[Ogionth]

retard.

that's not satisfaction,

if that were true then all of the religions would have had the same graph since all of them are delusionary, as you call them.

infact it should've been lower for christianity since even sinful christians go to heaven directly as opposed to islam where they are purified in hell for the sins that weren't repented for.

shouldn't that have given them a greater delusion, thus more satisfaction and thus less suicide rates as you have speculated?

then why is the graph for Islam so low?


It's you who is coping in your delusion,

yes something come from nothing saar

you do not want to be held accountable for the atrocities you have done and that is why you don't want a God to exist, but he is free of your thoughts and you will be held accountable buddy.

absolute retard

1.4B muslims are ugly just because they're religious because you said so, which is statistically impossible


It's clear that you're a retard coping.

 

[Joaquin]

retard.

that's not satisfaction,

if that were true then all of the religions would have had the same graph since all of them are delusionary, as you call them.

infact it should've been lower for christianity since even sinful christians go to heaven directly as opposed to islam where they are purified in hell for the sins that weren't repented for.

shouldn't that have given them a greater delusion, thus more satisfaction and thus less suicide rates as you have speculated?

then why is the graph for Islam so low?


It's you who is coping in your delusion,

yes something come from nothing saar

you do not want to be held accountable for the atrocities you have done and that is why you don't want a God to exist, but he is free of your thoughts and you will be held accountable buddy.

absolute retard

They have the lowest suicide rate because islam followers are usually more faithful to their religion

 

[Ogionth]

You are the absolute retard here.
Keep praying to allah buddy.

Reply to the studies, graphs and the logical statements with an argument and not a speculation of your thoughts

it's over for your brain buddy boyo

"Keep praying to Allah"

and yes I will, I swear by God himself, I'm proud of that..

 

[Joaquin]

1.4B muslims are ugly just because they're religious because you said so, which is statistically impossible


It's clear that you're a retard coping.

Where have I said they are ugly fucking retard?

 

[Ogionth]

They have the lowest suicide rate because islam followers are usually more faithful to their religion

How does that invalidate my argument abt christianity which offers you a free heaven pass better than Islam?

Why are these ppl more faithful? Because they know it's the truth, Islam is the only logical religion, why would it not settle in their hearts?

 

[Ogionth]

Where have I said they are ugly fucking retard?

In the original POST itself, you forgetful retard you made an assumption and now you've forgotten it?

 

[Ogionth]

Where have I said they are ugly fucking retard?

*Most people that Focus on religion are lost in Life, they are living in hell, usually because they are ugly or have no motivation in Life and they try to find some good cope and that is religion, following something that has no real proof whatsoever ,hoping that after they die, they Will go to Heaven.
No offense to religious people but I think this is a truth*.


-Joaquin the coper

 

[Ogionth]

Where have I said they are ugly fucking retard?

You're the coper here

You're scared of accountability, are you scared that one day, your sins will be brought up and justice will be made?

Are you scared?

I have submitted to Allah, while you have submitted to your own desires that have brought you nothing but shame, to the point that you're scared of the thouht of the existence of a God just because you don't want to be held accountable.

 

[Joaquin]

How does that invalidate my argument abt christianity which offers you a free heaven pass better than Islam?

Why are these ppl more faithful? Because they know it's the truth, Islam is the only logical religion, why would it not settle in their hearts?

They are more faithful because islam has strong religious prohibitions retard

 

[Joaquin]

In the original POST itself, you forgetful retard you made an assumption and now you've forgotten it?

"Usually because they are ugly OR have no motivation in life"

 

[Joaquin]

You're the coper here

You're scared of accountability, are you scared that one day, your sins will be brought up and justice will be made?

Are you scared?

I have submitted to Allah, while you have submitted to your own desires that have brought you nothing but shame, to the point that you're scared of the thouht of the existence of a God just because you don't want to be held accountable.

Holy brainwashed retard , truly sad

 

[MaghrebGator]

Non religious people have higher rates of suicide and lower birth rates.

It showcases how religious people find more meaning in life and have found way more stable circles to socialize in.

Everyone in life tries to find something that gives him meaning, a purpose to fight, to live, to feel a sense of belonging, and religion by far has proven to be the most efficient one in the history of humanity, particularly monotheist religions who have a strong belief in an afterlife of ultimate justice.

Coping with nationalism, tribalism, circles of friends who are based on school and whatnot has been proven unneficient over and over again, since it doesn’t fill the needs of that which makes the human being different from the rest of animals setting him apart, which is among other things the ability to act against his own instincts, interests and emotions, based on a metaphysical belief of a goal of ultimate divine justice that will come one day, based on a belief that God or a trascending and superior entity if you will is recording and being a witness to everything that is happening even if no one else is.

If one copes with nationalism there is no such entity, someone will dissapoint you sooner rather than later since you can see eventually with both your eyes and feel with all of your senses that the entity and ideal you dedicate your maximum loyalty fall, be weak against other nations, struggle with poverty, etc. There is no metaphysics on a nation, or a tribe, or a city, there is just what you see, there isn't this ideal of ultimate justice in the afterlife, you can witness the corruption of the judge and the president of the nation or tribal chief with your own eyes, the laziness of the people, the cowardice of the soldiers, the betrayal of the weak, etc, and that is what makes it weak, putting the trust on ultimately physical human beings. Many civilizations try to cope with human ideals like Napoleon, Alexander the Great, etc, as a way to substitute such examples but everyone could count hundreds of failures and weaknesses everyday they could spend with them. The best of creation and most influential human being in history, the Prophet Muhammad (Peace and Blessings be upon him) was narrated saying Narrated `Umar: I heard the Prophet (ﷺ) saying, "Do not exaggerate in praising me as the Christians praised the son of Mary, for I am only a Slave. So, call me the Slave of Allah and His Apostle."

Allah says (Interpretation of the meaning):
And if you obey most of those upon the earth, they will mislead you from the way of Allāh. They follow not except assumption, and they are not but misjudging.

However, you never see God fail or be defeated, fall, etc, and Islam especially is the religion that perfects such elements since it gives a reasoning and explanation to everything whether good or bad that happens.

Suhaib reported that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said: "Strange are the ways of a believer for there is good in every affair of his and this is not the case with anyone else except in the case of a believer for if he has an occasion to feel delight, he thanks (God), thus there is a good for him in it, and if he gets into trouble and shows resignation (and endures it patiently), there is a good for him in it."

In another narration: "Be mindful of Allah, and you will find Him in front of you. Recognize and acknowledge Allah in times of ease and prosperity, and He will remember you in times of adversity. And know that what has passed you by [and you have failed to attain] was not going to befall you, and what has befallen you was not going to pass you by. And know that victory comes with patience, relief with affliction, and hardship with ease."

In definitive, the misjudgment in your argument is based upon the fallacy that people who follow religion "cope" with religion, while people who do not follow religion do not "cope" with anything, while the reality is that every single human being copes with something as his ultimate objective, ranging from a mere videogame or a football team to a girl, to nationalism, political ideology like socialism, etc, and religions are just historically more efficient in expanding beyond different borders and mentalities due to their ultimate ideal being undefetable, impossible to challenge, depending on the metaphysical and not the physical, surpassing even the barrier of death itself.

Once we established everyone follows a "cope", if that so called "cope" doesn’t bring you the bare minimum for your race and species to properly survive which is low suicide rates and high birth rates plus expansion, then it just isn't worth it to follow, and if religions bring that meaning they provide the will to a person of all conditions to keep living, keep struggling, fight for something everyday, wake up everyday, etc, then they prove they are way more worth following.

 

[Joaquin]

Non religious people have higher rates of suicide and lower birth rates.

It showcases how religious people find more meaning in life and have found way more stable circles to socialize in.

Everyone in life tries to find something that gives him meaning, a purpose to fight, to live, to feel a sense of belonging, and religion by far has proven to be the most efficient one in the history of humanity, particularly monotheist religions who have a strong belief in an afterlife of ultimate justice.

Coping with nationalism, tribalism, circles of friends who are based on school and whatnot has been proven unneficient over and over again, since it doesn’t fill the needs of that which makes the human being different from the rest of animals setting him apart, which is among other things the ability to act against his own instincts, interests and emotions, based on a metaphysical belief of a goal of ultimate divine justice that will come one day, based on a belief that God or a trascending and superior entity if you will is recording and being a witness to everything that is happening even if no one else is.

If one copes with nationalism there is no such entity, someone will dissapoint you sooner rather than later since you can see eventually with both your eyes and feel with all of your senses that the entity and ideal you dedicate your maximum loyalty fall, be weak against other nations, struggle with poverty, etc. There is no metaphysics on a nation, or a tribe, or a city, there is just what you see, there isn't this ideal of ultimate justice in the afterlife, you can witness the corruption of the judge and the president of the nation or tribal chief with your own eyes, the laziness of the people, the cowardice of the soldiers, the betrayal of the weak, etc, and that is what makes it weak, putting the trust on ultimately physical human beings. Many civilizations try to cope with human ideals like Napoleon, Alexander the Great, etc, as a way to substitute such examples but everyone could count hundreds of failures and weaknesses everyday they could spend with them. The best of creation and most influential human being in history, the Prophet Muhammad (Peace and Blessings be upon him) was narrated saying Narrated `Umar: I heard the Prophet (ﷺ) saying, "Do not exaggerate in praising me as the Christians praised the son of Mary, for I am only a Slave. So, call me the Slave of Allah and His Apostle."

Allah says (Interpretation of the meaning):
And if you obey most of those upon the earth, they will mislead you from the way of Allāh. They follow not except assumption, and they are not but misjudging.

However, you never see God fail or be defeated, fall, etc, and Islam especially is the religion that perfects such elements since it gives a reasoning and explanation to everything whether good or bad that happens.

Suhaib reported that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said: "Strange are the ways of a believer for there is good in every affair of his and this is not the case with anyone else except in the case of a believer for if he has an occasion to feel delight, he thanks (God), thus there is a good for him in it, and if he gets into trouble and shows resignation (and endures it patiently), there is a good for him in it."

In another narration: "Be mindful of Allah, and you will find Him in front of you. Recognize and acknowledge Allah in times of ease and prosperity, and He will remember you in times of adversity. And know that what has passed you by [and you have failed to attain] was not going to befall you, and what has befallen you was not going to pass you by. And know that victory comes with patience, relief with affliction, and hardship with ease."

In definitive, the misjudgment in your argument is based upon the fallacy that people who follow religion "cope" with religion, while people who do not follow religion do not "cope" with anything, while the reality is that every single human being copes with something as his ultimate objective, ranging from a mere videogame or a football team to a girl, to nationalism, political ideology like socialism, etc, and religions are just historically more efficient in expanding beyond different borders and mentalities due to their ultimate ideal being undefetable, impossible to challenge, depending on the metaphysical and not the physical, surpassing even the barrier of death itself.

Once we established everyone follows a "cope", if that so called "cope" doesn’t bring you the bare minimum for your race and species to properly survive which is low suicide rates and high birth rates plus expansion, then it just isn't worth it to follow, and if religions bring that meaning they provide the will to a person of all conditions to keep living, keep struggling, fight for something everyday, wake up everyday, etc, then they prove they are way more worth following.

Best and most logical response in this thread.

 

[Joaquin]

Non religious people have higher rates of suicide and lower birth rates.

It showcases how religious people find more meaning in life and have found way more stable circles to socialize in.

Everyone in life tries to find something that gives him meaning, a purpose to fight, to live, to feel a sense of belonging, and religion by far has proven to be the most efficient one in the history of humanity, particularly monotheist religions who have a strong belief in an afterlife of ultimate justice.

Coping with nationalism, tribalism, circles of friends who are based on school and whatnot has been proven unneficient over and over again, since it doesn’t fill the needs of that which makes the human being different from the rest of animals setting him apart, which is among other things the ability to act against his own instincts, interests and emotions, based on a metaphysical belief of a goal of ultimate divine justice that will come one day, based on a belief that God or a trascending and superior entity if you will is recording and being a witness to everything that is happening even if no one else is.

If one copes with nationalism there is no such entity, someone will dissapoint you sooner rather than later since you can see eventually with both your eyes and feel with all of your senses that the entity and ideal you dedicate your maximum loyalty fall, be weak against other nations, struggle with poverty, etc. There is no metaphysics on a nation, or a tribe, or a city, there is just what you see, there isn't this ideal of ultimate justice in the afterlife, you can witness the corruption of the judge and the president of the nation or tribal chief with your own eyes, the laziness of the people, the cowardice of the soldiers, the betrayal of the weak, etc, and that is what makes it weak, putting the trust on ultimately physical human beings. Many civilizations try to cope with human ideals like Napoleon, Alexander the Great, etc, as a way to substitute such examples but everyone could count hundreds of failures and weaknesses everyday they could spend with them. The best of creation and most influential human being in history, the Prophet Muhammad (Peace and Blessings be upon him) was narrated saying Narrated `Umar: I heard the Prophet (ﷺ) saying, "Do not exaggerate in praising me as the Christians praised the son of Mary, for I am only a Slave. So, call me the Slave of Allah and His Apostle."

Allah says (Interpretation of the meaning):
And if you obey most of those upon the earth, they will mislead you from the way of Allāh. They follow not except assumption, and they are not but misjudging.

However, you never see God fail or be defeated, fall, etc, and Islam especially is the religion that perfects such elements since it gives a reasoning and explanation to everything whether good or bad that happens.

Suhaib reported that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said: "Strange are the ways of a believer for there is good in every affair of his and this is not the case with anyone else except in the case of a believer for if he has an occasion to feel delight, he thanks (God), thus there is a good for him in it, and if he gets into trouble and shows resignation (and endures it patiently), there is a good for him in it."

In another narration: "Be mindful of Allah, and you will find Him in front of you. Recognize and acknowledge Allah in times of ease and prosperity, and He will remember you in times of adversity. And know that what has passed you by [and you have failed to attain] was not going to befall you, and what has befallen you was not going to pass you by. And know that victory comes with patience, relief with affliction, and hardship with ease."

In definitive, the misjudgment in your argument is based upon the fallacy that people who follow religion "cope" with religion, while people who do not follow religion do not "cope" with anything, while the reality is that every single human being copes with something as his ultimate objective, ranging from a mere videogame or a football team to a girl, to nationalism, political ideology like socialism, etc, and religions are just historically more efficient in expanding beyond different borders and mentalities due to their ultimate ideal being undefetable, impossible to challenge, depending on the metaphysical and not the physical, surpassing even the barrier of death itself.

Once we established everyone follows a "cope", if that so called "cope" doesn’t bring you the bare minimum for your race and species to properly survive which is low suicide rates and high birth rates plus expansion, then it just isn't worth it to follow, and if religions bring that meaning they provide the will to a person of all conditions to keep living, keep struggling, fight for something everyday, wake up everyday, etc, then they prove they are way more worth following.

I agree religion is not bad if it makes people lifes worth living and give them a purpose