Start test cycle review

[FatNigga271000]

I am thinking about starting a test cycle for muscle gain and would like a review of it and any tips.

250mg test enanthate spread over two injections a week.
Arimidex at .5 mg a day if noticing sides

I want the low-dose test for fewer sides. Since I would be doing a low dose, I wasn't planning on using anything like hCG or Nolvadex. I'm also doing reta and was wondering if i would need to change any doses when I hop on test. I'm also already on fin so I don't have to worry about any hair loss from test

 

[jawalrus]

tbh difference between the sides of 250 --> 500 mg weekly is nothing
pretty sure MPMD and most ppl on this forum agree

although it's good to be safe i suppose, i recommend you upping the dose 4-6 weeks in to 500mg if you feel fine/bloodwork is good

for context my cruise dose is 250mg

 

[RichardSpencel]

tbh difference between the sides of 250 --> 500 mg weekly is nothing
pretty sure MPMD and most ppl on this forum agree

although it's good to be safe i suppose, i recommend you upping the dose 4-6 weeks in to 500mg if you feel fine/bloodwork is good

for context my cruise dose is 250mg

If there were no difference in side effects ,why would you not be cruising on 500mg?

 

[jawalrus]

If there were no difference in side effects ,why would you not be cruising on 500mg?

different situation --> different threshold for what you can consider "nothing"

in the context of a "cycle" or "blast", 250 vs 500mg of test has virtually no difference in long term effects, ur only doing it for like 16-20 weeks

in the context of cruising for a prolonged duration, there is a considerable difference

 

[FatNigga271000]

different situation --> different threshold for what you can consider "nothing"

in the context of a "cycle" or "blast", 250 vs 500mg of test has virtually no difference in long term effects, ur only doing it for like 16-20 weeks

in the context of cruising for a prolonged duration, there is a considerable difference

How long would you recommend the first cycle? I was thinking fairly short, like 15 weeks at most, with the potential of upping to 500 mg a week. If I did a little larger cycle like that, then would I need more things for the PCT, like the Nolvadex or would I be fine with the AI in case I get sides?

 

[jawalrus]

How long would you recommend the first cycle? I was thinking fairly short, like 15 weeks at most, with the potential of upping to 500 mg a week. If I did a little larger cycle like that, then would I need more things for the PCT, like the Nolvadex or would I be fine with the AI in case I get sides?

tbh the whole PCT thing is kinda dumb

imo blasting and cruising is better

main side ppl worry about is fertility, heart health but at a "sports-trt" dose heart health isn't an issue and HCG solves fertility

if you don't wanna inject for the rest of your days, there's a lot of anecdotes of people pcting successfully after years of blasting and cruising


for PCT, usually you run HCG last 3-4 weeks of cycle then use enclo/clomid/nolva but i've seen some people say to just go cold turkey (not my area of expertise though since i'm just gonna cruise)

 

[GoErOnFoids]

Is it even something to do 250 or 500 once a week or 250 twice a week without any other shit, for balding or balls or estrogen.
I dont have money or possibilities for a huge stack

@jawalrus @FatNigga271000 @RichardSpencel

 

[jawalrus]

Is it even something to do 250 or 500 once a week or 250 twice a week without any other shit, for balding or balls or estrogen.
I dont have money or possibilities for a huge stack

@jawalrus @FatNigga271000 @RichardSpencel

imo test > no test/natural

test + needles + alcohol wipes all you need for 10 weeks at 250mg a week
that'll run u like 80 bucks max


ancillaries (as you mentioned) are the main issue,

for this i recommend doing 150mg of test --> wait 4 weeks (just to see if ur getting sides)
if no u should be able to bump to 250, if that's bad then just go back down


also you'll have to look at ur parents hair, if ur parents are balding ur gonna need ru, dut, etc.

 

[FatNigga271000]

imo test > no test/natural

test + needles + alcohol wipes all you need for 10 weeks at 250mg a week
that'll run u like 80 bucks max


ancillaries (as you mentioned) are the main issue,

for this i recommend doing 150mg of test --> wait 4 weeks (just to see if ur getting sides)
if no u should be able to bump to 250, if that's bad then just go back down


also you'll have to look at ur parents hair, if ur parents are balding ur gonna need ru, dut, etc.

if money is an issue should i just not get the ai when i start, i was going to get the ai at the start and just take it if sides are present but if i dont need it unless sides are present then that would save me more money for hardmaxxing in the future.

 

[jawalrus]

if money is an issue should i just not get the ai when i start, i was going to get the ai at the start and just take it if sides are present but if i dont need it unless sides are present then that would save me more money for hardmaxxing in the future.

you'll probably be fine if you titrate up lmao

if you're unlucky you'll get bloating from high e but it's not like ur gonna get manboobs from having elevated e2 for a week or two

 

[FatNigga271000]

you'll probably be fine if you titrate up lmao

if you're unlucky you'll get bloating from high e but it's not like ur gonna get manboobs from having elevated e2 for a week or two

what do you recommend for titrating up like what starting dose and what increase per week. I plan on switching to a max of 500 mg a week with a total of 5g test e