Stavemaxxxing > gym

[plotkun]

The first picture is the screenshot (with my free explanations) from the page 57 of a massive online dating study (pdf file).

According to it, starvemaxxxing makes you uglier to women until it ascends you beyond chadhood.

I wonder how accurate it is, because I'm 21 bmi currently and I'm not sure which way to go since gym is hard and expensive while starving is free

I'm 6'2/165lbs currently if it matters at 16.5% bf. Currently trying to bulk after going to 156lbs but not sure if I am doing the right thing anymore.

 

[Raffy]

go to the fucking gym

 

[Regressive]

pseudo science? i eat little and i think it has made me indeed uglier/skinnier

 

[mlbmogger252]

I used to have very similar stats to you and I promise you lean bulking is absolutely the way. It’s a grind but you can cheat with sarms/test if you’re old enough. Go to the gym.

 

[plotkun]

I used to have very similar stats to you and I promise you lean bulking is absolutely the way. It’s a grind but you can cheat with sarms/test if you’re old enough. Go to the gym.

Nah, I'll go the healthy way

 

[Deleted member 105969]

frame mogs either way tbh
Legit different species

 

[Deleted member 94729]

The first picture is the screenshot (with my free explanations) from the page 57 of a massive online dating study (pdf file).

According to it, starvemaxxxing makes you uglier to women until it ascends you beyond chadhood.

I wonder how accurate it is, because I'm 21 bmi currently and I'm not sure which way to go since gym is hard and expensive while starving is free

I'm 6'2/165lbs currently if it matters at 16.5% bf. Currently trying to bulk after going to 156lbs but not sure if I am doing the right thing anymore.

go to the gym, im 6'4 135 it does not fucking help

 

[Deleted member 94729]

I used to have very similar stats to you and I promise you lean bulking is absolutely the way. It’s a grind but you can cheat with sarms/test if you’re old enough. Go to the gym.

how big of a surplus?

 

[fabi_magyr.incel]

just work out im skinny 5´10 mtn and both genders find me ugly

 

[plotkun]

go to the gym, im 6'4 135 it does not fucking help

You what!?

 

[chadhamed]

frame mogs either way tbh
Legit different species

Its the bones not the muscle

 

[Deleted member 94729]

You what!?

just focus on ur bodyfat not ur weight, also rep me back

 

[chadhamed]

just work out im skinny 5´10 mtn and both genders find me ugly

I find gl

 

[Deleted member 105969]

Its the bones not the muscle

Exactly. Still need some muscle for highest appeal though. Smth like this

 

[Muttcel foid killer]

The first picture is the screenshot (with my free explanations) from the page 57 of a massive online dating study (pdf file).

According to it, starvemaxxxing makes you uglier to women until it ascends you beyond chadhood.

I wonder how accurate it is, because I'm 21 bmi currently and I'm not sure which way to go since gym is hard and expensive while starving is free

I'm 6'2/165lbs currently if it matters at 16.5% bf. Currently trying to bulk after going to 156lbs but not sure if I am doing the right thing anymore.

water gym I cope

 

[plotkun]

The first picture is the screenshot (with my free explanations) from the page 57 of a massive online dating study (pdf file).

According to it, starvemaxxxing makes you uglier to women until it ascends you beyond chadhood.

I wonder how accurate it is, because I'm 21 bmi currently and I'm not sure which way to go since gym is hard and expensive while starving is free

I'm 6'2/165lbs currently if it matters at 16.5% bf. Currently trying to bulk after going to 156lbs but not sure if I am doing the right thing anymore.

 

[mlbmogger252]

how big of a surplus?

I’m 6’3.5 185 now leanish, used to be around 155-160 skinny fat and have eaten maybe 3-500 above surplus daily for a bit now. However I’m on a Cardarine/osta cycle for another few weeks which may have contributed (highly recommend you research it btw very good). I wouldn’t recommend dirty bulking unless you’re literally a stick figure though. Slow and steady surplus mogs by far if you care about looks along with gains

 

[Deleted member 94729]

I’m 6’3.5 185 now leanish, used to be around 155-160 skinny fat and have eaten maybe 3-500 above surplus daily for a bit now. However I’m on a Cardarine/osta cycle for another few weeks which may have contributed (highly recommend you research it btw very good). I wouldn’t recommend dirty bulking unless you’re literally a stick figure though. Slow and steady surplus mogs by far if you care about looks along with gains

since im 6'4 135 rn should i just try to gain with few hundred calorie surplus? im afraid ill gain fat and itll go to my face so i just eat in a slight deficit every day

 

[mlbmogger252]

since im 6'4 135 rn should i just try to gain with few hundred calorie surplus? im afraid ill gain fat and itll go to my face so i just eat in a slight deficit every day

If you’re still growing absolutely, fat wouldn’t even matter then imo. If you’re past like 17-18 or so I think a slower bulk would be more beneficial. But you can gain weight at the gym even within maintenance especially when you first start lifting.

 

[Deleted member 94729]

If you’re still growing absolutely, fat wouldn’t even matter then imo. If you’re past like 17-18 or so I think a slower bulk would be more beneficial. But you can gain weight at the gym even within maintenance especially when you first start lifting.

i turned 17 a little less than 3 months ago and yeah im new to lifting (also rep back)

 

[univer]

The first picture is the screenshot (with my free explanations) from the page 57 of a massive online dating study (pdf file).

According to it, starvemaxxxing makes you uglier to women until it ascends you beyond chadhood.

I wonder how accurate it is, because I'm 21 bmi currently and I'm not sure which way to go since gym is hard and expensive while starving is free

I'm 6'2/165lbs currently if it matters at 16.5% bf. Currently trying to bulk after going to 156lbs but not sure if I am doing the right thing anymore.

I'm skeptical since it's empirically proven and common knowledge that being lean is more attractive. Also, long-term starvemaxxing will ruin your hormones and make you feel like shit, not worth it.

Stick to the bulk and then cut when you've built a good amount of muscle mass. Don't go below a 500-calorie deficit when you cut so your muscles don't vaporize.

 

[plotkun]

I'm skeptical since it's empirically proven and common knowledge that being lean is more attractive. Also, long-term starvemaxxing will ruin your hormones and make you feel like shit, not worth it.

Stick to the bulk and then cut when you've built a good amount of muscle mass. Don't go below a 500-calorie deficit when you cut so your muscles don't vaporize.

What is the substantial amount of muscles?

 

[univer]

What is the substantial amount of muscles?

Depends on your preference. Ideally, you may wanna look like David Laid, but that would take years and could even be impossible naturally. I recommend building enough muscle until you're satisfied with the amount you have and until you're noticeably jacked.

 

[mlbmogger252]

i turned 17 a little less than 3 months ago and yeah im new to lifting (also rep back)

Hmmm I’d consider just saying fuck it and dirty bulk + spam gym at that age tbh. You may be able to grow 1-2 more inches too. Especially at 6’4 you’re probably like 30-40 lbs under ideal weight minimum.

 

[plotkun]

Depends on your preference. Ideally, you may wanna look like David Laid, but that would take years and could even be impossible naturally. I recommend building enough muscle until you're satisfied with the amount you have and until you're noticeably jacked.

So 6 month st least I guess

 

[univer]

Hmmm I’d consider just saying fuck it and dirty bulk + spam gym at that age tbh. You may be able to grow 1-2 more inches too. Especially at 6’4 you’re probably like 30-40 lbs under ideal weight minimum.

Dirty bulking is shit, it's been shown to only make you fat. Clean bulk builds pretty much the same amount of muscle while keeping healthy.

 

[mlbmogger252]

Dirty bulking is shit, it's been shown to only make you fat. Clean bulk builds pretty much the same amount of muscle while keeping healthy.

I agree dirty bulking is shit in 95% of cases. But when you’re a literal skeleton like he said it’s a lot faster and once he leans down he’d be at a similar spot as lean bulking in a lot less time.

If he was normal weight to start then I’d always advocate for clean bulking/maintenance. That’s what I do right now

 

[Deleted member 94729]

Hmmm I’d consider just saying fuck it and dirty bulk + spam gym at that age tbh. You may be able to grow 1-2 more inches too. Especially at 6’4 you’re probably like 30-40 lbs under ideal weight minimum.

i cannot dirty bulk in highschool that is worse than suicide