Sun damage

[Leo0509]

I‘m working outside and under the sun almost everyday in the summer, I‘m always using spf 50 and never had a sunburn in my life.
I have a tan on my arms but my face is just a bit darker than usual but still white.

Is it still possible to have sun damaged skin even without a big tan or a sunburn?

 

[needsolution]

Again lol when you will start to understand that you are subhuman because of your death tier philtrum and twink frame, not because your skin quality...

 

[eyearea]

I‘m working outside and under the sun almost everyday in the summer, I‘m always using spf 50 and never had a sunburn in my life.
I have a tan on my arms but my face is just a bit darker than usual but still white.

Is it still possible to have sun damaged skin even without a big tan or a sunburn?

you haue nasolabial folds from sun damage bro

 

[Deleted member 4577]

send pics

 

[xdxdxnice1]

vitamin c or rope

 

[JustAFewMM]

Just abuse the sunscreen bro

 

[Deleted member 6113]

Just abuse the sunscreen bro

It's the only way.

 

[ScramFranklin]

SPF only protects from UVB, which burns you.
SPF does not protect from UVA. Which tans you and AGES you. It penetrates deeper into your skin. The difference between UVA and UVB honestly needs to be stickied. I'm telling someone about it every week.

 

[Deleted member 534]

SPF only protects from UVB, which burns you.
SPF does not protect from UVA. Which tans you and AGES you. It penetrates deeper into your skin. The difference between UVA and UVB honestly needs to be stickied. I'm telling someone about it every week.

That’s why you need broad spectrum sunscreen

 

[Leo0509]

SPF only protects from UVB, which burns you.
SPF does not protect from UVA. Which tans you and AGES you. It penetrates deeper into your skin. The difference between UVA and UVB honestly needs to be stickied. I'm telling someone about it every week.

My sunscreen protects from both

 

[Deleted member 5859]

Just burn to death theory

 

[DrunkenSailor]

Hmm shouldn’t SPF 50 with both UVB and UVA prevent you from tanning?

 

[Deleted member 5583]

Would love a thread to hear updates on your nasolabial folds

 

[Deleted member 3990]

SPF only protects from UVB, which burns you.
SPF does not protect from UVA. Which tans you and AGES you. It penetrates deeper into your skin. The difference between UVA and UVB honestly needs to be stickied. I'm telling someone about it every week.

How to protect from UVA

 

[Schizoidcel]

SPF only protects from UVB, which burns you.
SPF does not protect from UVA. Which tans you and AGES you. It penetrates deeper into your skin. The difference between UVA and UVB honestly needs to be stickied. I'm telling someone about it every week.

Does Centalla protect from aging? It says "+SPF50+ PA++++ UVA1,2 UVB Broad Spectrum"

 

[ScramFranklin]

That’s why you need broad spectrum sunscreen

Except US broad spectrum doesn't have a strong standard for UVA protection. It's hard to know how much protection you are actually getting, and it's not as much as Asian and European sunscreens offer.

 

[ScramFranklin]

Hmm shouldn’t SPF 50 with both UVB and UVA prevent you from tanning?

SPF with UVA isn't a thing. SPF is a measurement of how much UVB protection a sunscreen has. A 50 spf sunscreen may have protection from UVA, but the 50 SPF has nothing to do with that.

 

[ScramFranklin]

Does Centalla protect from aging? It says "+SPF50+ PA++++ UVA1,2 UVB Broad Spectrum"

PA++++ is the highest Asian sunscreens go to tell you how much UVA protection they have. It means it has a PPD of at least 16. But you don't know if it's 16 on the dot, or could be 24 or something. But 16 is wayyyyy better than what the majority of people will be using.

 

[ScramFranklin]

How to protect from UVA

A sunscreen with a high PA (the + system in Asia) or high PPD (European system).

I like PPD because it's more exact. PPD is pretty much the equivalent as SPF, except it's for UVA. So a 16 PPD would mean it takes 16x as long for you skin to darken. Just like 30 SPF mean it will take 30x as long to burn (all these tests are done in labs under very certain conditions of course).

 

[Deleted member 3990]

A sunscreen with a high PA (the + system in Asia) or high PPD (European system).

I like PPD because it's more exact. PPD is pretty much the equivalent as SPF, except it's for UVA. So a 16 PPD would mean it takes 16x as long for you skin to darken. Just like 30 SPF mean it will take 30x as long to burn (all these tests are done in labs under very certain conditions of course).

But this would prevent vit D from builiding I guess?

 

[Deleted member 6573]

Provided you are applying liberally every 2 hours under sunlight the damage would be negligible.

 

[Leo0509]

Provided you are applying liberally every 2 hours under sunlight the damage would be negligible.

What‘s negligible? Sry I‘m from Germany.
Does that mean that there will be almost no Damage if reapplying sunscreen every 2 hours?

 

[Deleted member 6573]

What‘s negligible? Sry I‘m from Germany.
Does that mean that there will be almost no Damage if reapplying sunscreen every 2 hours?

Yes, pretty much. Provided you are applying the sunscreen the way it is supposed to be applied, of course. SPF 50 blocks 98% of UVB rays. If your sunscreen has a PA rating you can see what % of UVA it blocks as well.

 

[ScramFranklin]

But this would prevent vit D from builiding I guess?

Yes. I can't remember if it's UVA or UVB that gives us Vitamin D. One of them. I just supplement it.

 

[DrunkenSailor]

SPF with UVA isn't a thing. SPF is a measurement of how much UVB protection a sunscreen has. A 50 spf sunscreen may have protection from UVA, but the 50 SPF has nothing to do with that.

Is this good enough?

 

[xdxdxnice1]

Is this good enough?

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this is a top tier product

 

[DrunkenSailor]

this is a top tier product

Good, I paid like 20€ for it lol which is a lot of money here

 

[ScramFranklin]

Is this good enough?

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The circle around the UVA means the PPD is at least a third of the SPF. So it's at least 16ish. Not bad at all. Just depends on how much protection you want and how often you are applying. That will put you in a better position than 99% of people though.

 

[middayshowers]

SPF only protects from UVB, which burns you.
SPF does not protect from UVA. Which tans you and AGES you. It penetrates deeper into your skin. The difference between UVA and UVB honestly needs to be stickied. I'm telling someone about it every week.

yes but every good spf 50 sunscreen is broad spectrum and has a high PPD so it doesn’t matter unless you’re buying shit cheap sunscreens

 

[ScramFranklin]

yes but every good spf 50 sunscreen is broad spectrum and has a high PPD so it doesn’t matter unless you’re buying shit cheap sunscreens

Key word their is "good" sunscreen. America doesn't have a ton of "good" sunscreens. Most people don't purchase "good" sunscreens, aka sunscreens with good UVA protection. If they even care about the sun, they just look at SPF.

 

[Y2J97]

SPF only protects from UVB, which burns you.
SPF does not protect from UVA. Which tans you and AGES you. It penetrates deeper into your skin. The difference between UVA and UVB honestly needs to be stickied. I'm telling someone about it every week.

So defintely, which sunscreen is the best for UVA protection?

 

[ScramFranklin]

It's not like it's "one magic sunscreen to rule them all". Look for high PPD or PA++++(although PA++++ only tells you the PPD is atleast 16... that's a disadvantage of asian sunscreens).

My current favorite is La Roche Posay Anthelios Shaka Fluid, non fragrance, non tinted. It has good UVA protection (42 PPD), doesn't hurt my eyes (like my last asian sunscreen I used), and doesn't leave too bad of a shiny appearance or white cast on my skin.