test var hgh cycle

[testosterone36]

200mg test
12.5 var ed
3iu hgh ed
6.25 aromasin eod

lmk what i should change / add

 

[Midasw]

might have to lower that dose of aromasin if you crash your e2, for me 7.5 mg eod is enough on 350 test + hcg, and it crashes on 10 mg, so you might have to titrate it, start there if youre going for height, go lower if youre just here for muscle

 

[exire]

inject daily instead of using aromasin.

 

[trynaascend1]

200mg test
12.5 var ed
3iu hgh ed
6.25 aromasin eod

lmk what i should change / add

Cut the var for the first cycle, see how your body reacts to the test first, keep it minimal, up the test and hgh dose ur chillin, throw in a decent pct if ur goin 400-500+ test.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Cut the var for the first cycle, see how your body reacts to the test first, keep it minimal, up the test and hgh dose ur chillin, throw in a decent pct if ur goin 400-500+ test.

^ What he said but without the PCT. No proof at all it does anything beneficial for recovery.

500test, 2.5-7.5iu gh

 

[trynaascend1]

^ What he said but without the PCT. No proof at all it does anything beneficial for recovery.

500test, 2.5-7.5iu gh

There is a lot of proof. Just not exactly empirically w/ pages and pages of study but, dif for everyone. Coming off cycle w/ your body not producing adequate testosterone is not fun. PCT is a must for not roping in the few weeks coming off cycle. It never hurts to keep at least HCG and Nolva, clomid, enclo, etc. on hand w/ an AI (no rebound)if your smart. And with that comment, I hope OP is knowledgeable enough to figure out bloodwork and a plate scan.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

There is a lot of proof.

Stopped reading here. The only long term study conducted on the topic showed that PCT did not benefit recovery in any way. Arguably only harmed recovery.

Using PCT when there is no evidence it does anything beneficial is completely retarded.

HCG is fine.

 

[Noesis]

Stopped reading here. The only long term study conducted on the topic showed that PCT did not benefit recovery in any way. Arguably only harmed recovery.

Using PCT when there is no evidence it does anything beneficial is completely retarded.

HCG is fine.

Do I do 500 test for 3 months no PCT? tell me fast cause I gotta buy this shit and I'm tight on money

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Do I do 500 test for 3 months no PCT? tell me fast cause I gotta buy this shit and I'm tight on money

16-20 weeks, ideally 20, 500 test. Can use HCG.

 

[Noesis]

16-20 weeks, ideally 20, 500 test. Can use HCG.

My HPTA will recover on its own?

 

[chadisbeingmade]

My HPTA will recover on its own?

Use HCG throughout the entire cycle and you'll never have issues with HPTA.

 

[Noesis]

Use HCG throughout the entire cycle and you'll never have issues with HPTA.

Yes ik but what about after the cycle my endogenous FSH is kinda shitty already

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Yes ik but what about after the cycle my endogenous FSH is kinda shitty already

Will recover just fine. Bounces back extremely quickly after discontinuation.

 

[Noesis]

Will recover just fine. Bounces back extremely quickly after discontinuation.

Aight thanks

 

[Copercel]

Stopped reading here. The only long term study conducted on the topic showed that PCT did not benefit recovery in any way. Arguably only harmed recovery.

The study you’re talking about is false and you know that

What can you lose from doing a PCT? A couple bucks?

 

[chadisbeingmade]

The study you’re talking about is false and you know that

What can you lose from doing a PCT? A couple bucks?

You absolute fucking moron. Yes the study is shit. Guess fucking what? It’s the only study on the subject that there is. What the fuck would you like me to do about that? And what is the point of inventing bollocks to justify its use when the only evidence we have thus far shows no benefit, if not completely negative effects, compared to no PCT.

Such a fucking moron. Stick to offtopic.

 

[testosterone36]

also trying to get some deca rn & starting it asap

 

[testosterone36]

Cut the var for the first cycle, see how your body reacts to the test first, keep it minimal, up the test and hgh dose ur chillin, throw in a decent pct if ur goin 400-500+ test.

what’s wrong w the var

 

[testosterone36]

500test, 2.5-7.5iu gh

ok, ill go 2.5.

not trying to you know what myself

 

[trynaascend1]

Stopped reading here. The only long term study conducted on the topic showed that PCT did not benefit recovery in any way. Arguably only harmed recovery.

Using PCT when there is no evidence it does anything beneficial is completely retarde

Stopped reading here. The only long term study conducted on the topic showed that PCT did not benefit recovery in any way. Arguably only harmed recovery.

Using PCT when there is no evidence it does anything beneficial is completely retarded.

what’s wrong w the var

Nothing, but if you want to be smart w/ it. In short, let’s say you do the var and test, and you have a few noticeable side effects. How can you pinpoint at home exactly what’s causing the sides and what to taper down on? If you just leave the var aside for a bit and keep your first cycle (im assuming) a couple compounds you minimize extra health complications. IMO just up your GH to 5-6 iu and test to AT LEAST 400 for your first cycle. Following that cycle you know have a baseline of how your body will respond to the test and GH and can start throwing in other low/non aromatizing compounds, or more anabolics. You build a foundation and push that to your physiological limits before adding other shit. I mean, what do you have to gain from cycling that low with anavar yk? Just up ur dose
-400+mg test
-5+ iu HGH

 

[trynaascend1]

Nothing, but if you want to be smart w/ it. In short, let’s say you do the var and test, and you have a few noticeable side effects. How can you pinpoint at home exactly what’s causing the sides and what to taper down on? If you just leave the var aside for a bit and keep your first cycle (im assuming) a couple compounds you minimize extra health complications. IMO just up your GH to 5-6 iu and test to AT LEAST 400 for your first cycle. Following that cycle you know have a baseline of how your body will respond to the test and GH and can start throwing in other low/non aromatizing compounds, or more anabolics. You build a foundation and push that to your physiological limits before adding other shit. I mean, what do you have to gain from cycling that low with anavar yk? Just up ur dose
-400+mg test
-5+ iu HGH

Also read his post I quoted. Did some more research and PCT like that isn’t studied enough, HCG is enough to keep ur balls working

 

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The only long term study conducted on the topic showed that PCT did not benefit recovery in any way. Arguably only harmed recovery.

Can you link me that study?