Testosteron and heart risks?

[Deusmaximus]

Is there a big risk of getting heart problems, or even dying from heart failure?
I sometimes have quick heart arrhythmias, but my cardiologist said its not dangerous and i dont need to worry about.
Injecting t would be the last hope to get a good body, before my prime is totally over (26 now).

 

[john2]

TestosTyrone will cuck your heart too.

Brutal T pill.

 

[Mayorga]

needs a bit more detail - what doses are we talking, how prolonged is the use, any other risk factors like cardiovascular problems in your immediate family?

 

[Deusmaximus]

needs a bit more detail - what doses are we talking, how prolonged is the use, any other risk factors like cardiovascular problems in your immediate family?

I am thinking about starting with a high end trt dosage of 150mg e5d. Could a dosage like this already help me getting more gains?
My grandfather had a heart attack, but he was old already and smoked.

 

[Cardiologyscribe]

its probably fine in replacement doses or really anything under 400mg/week.

If you are worried about it get an ECHO which is a heart ultrasound. It will show the size of the chambers an thickness of the heart walls as well as function like what % of blood in the heart is it pumping out each stroke.

Sources:
Real cardiology scribe

 

[Deusmaximus]

its probably fine in replacement doses or really anything under 400mg/week.

If you are worried about it get an ECHO which is a heart ultrasound. It will show the size of the chambers an thickness of the heart walls as well as function like what % of blood in the heart is it pumping out each stroke.

Sources:
Real cardiology scribe

I already got that, 2 years ago. They found nothing. These arythmias are since more than 5 years. You think i should get another one?

 

[Cardiologyscribe]

I already got that, 2 years ago. They found nothing. These arythmias are since more than 5 years. You think i should get another one?

No I don’t. Did you wear a holter monitor / ziopatch or just an in office 12-lead EKG? Is your arrhythmia just afib?

 

[Deleted member 3593]

Yea it's a taboo but testosterone and steroids in general definitely tax the heart in doses above normal range. The best thing you can do really is keeping estrogen in control + not taking too many wet compounds (the water retention is more stress on the heart), eating a shit ton of fiber, low saturated fats, and cardio.

 

[MewingJBP]

Caring about longevity - low test high inhibition. Unless you're roiding hard year round and/or have bad heart disease genetics you'll be fine tbh why do incels want to live to old age is beyond me.

 

[Mayorga]

Your risk of cardiovascular disease will definitely increase if you use AAS for prolonged periods - first because of possible left ventricular hypertrophy and second due to worsened HDL:LDL cholesterol ratio. Now, assuming dosages that just put you in the upper physiological limit, this most likely wouldn't be a problem until you're like 50+, given proper diet, weight, exercise etc. It's a matter of risk-reward evaluation, so the responsibility is on you to DYOR.

 

[Deusmaximus]

No I don’t. Did you wear a holter monitor / ziopatch or just an in office 12-lead EKG? Is your arrhythmia just afib?

Yes i wear a holster for 24h, but the arythmia did not occur. They also did a ekg when i was on a treadmill. I am thinking about starting with a low dosed betablocker.

 

[Mayorga]

Caring about longevity - low test high inhibition.

everyone thinks like that until they're on their deathbed watching the Grim Reaper in the eyes

 

[Cardiologyscribe]

Yes i wear a holster for 24h, but the arythmia did not occur. They also did a ekg when i was on a treadmill. I am thinking about starting with a low dosed betablocker.

Was about to recommend either atenelol or carvedilol if you can tolerate them. They slow your heart rate which can give some people exercise limitations

And ACE-Inhibitor may be helpful.

 

[Deusmaximus]

Was about to recommend either atenelol or carvedilol if you can tolerate them. They slow your heart rate which can give some people exercise limitations

And ACE-Inhibitor may be helpful.

What do you think about nebivolol? So overall, you see risks concerning t injection?

 

[Cardiologyscribe]

What do you think about nebivolol? So overall, you see risks concerning t injection?

I have never seen my doctors give that out but I can ask them when I go in on Monday

And it depends how much you inject but 400 or less no I do not think that will cause a problem (and if it does it won’t so fast that you won’t catch it between follow ups)

People who have died of MI or cardiomyopathy related to exogenous steroids really ignored their body’s signals for years and kept blasting anyway

 

[Gaunt]

150e5d will on AVERAGE put people around 1200-1400ng/dl.

 

[Deleted member 3593]

Your risk of cardiovascular disease will definitely increase if you use AAS for prolonged periods - first because of possible left ventricular hypertrophy and second due to worsened HDL:LDL cholesterol ratio. Now, assuming dosages that just put you in the upper physiological limit, this most likely wouldn't be a problem until you're like 50+, given proper diet, weight, exercise etc. It's a matter of risk-reward evaluation, so the responsibility is on you to DYOR.

isnt the LVH reversed when you come off?

 

[Deleted member 4209]

gotta die of something

might as well improve urself even if u die at 75 who cares. who wants to be 90.

 

[Deleted member 3593]

gotta die of something

might as well improve urself even if u die at 75 who cares. who wants to be 90.

Exactly lol. JFL at people who care about longevity. At 60 years old ur life is so shitty u just limp around and watch the day go by. U might as well do steroids when ur young when ur body is fresher and can take the damage. Just lol at dummies who say wait till 30-35 to roid it’s literally the other way around

 

[JustTrynaGrow]

150e5d will on AVERAGE put people around 1200-1400ng/dl.

That's ass for a cycle tbh.

you'd want to cycle for 3 months minimum to get some minor improvements.

better off using sarms at that point.

500mg test E is generally recommend for begininners. dose it at least 2 times a week to reduce side effects.

not that I've even cycled steroids before though so don't take my word for shit

 

[Deleted member 4054]

When you say "quick arrhythmias", do you mean the occasional premature contraction (feeling of a skipped beat), or do you mean a SUSTAINED arrhythmia where your heart beats quicker for a while out of nowhere?

 

[Deusmaximus]

150e5d will on AVERAGE put people around 1200-1400ng/dl.

I am at 580nd/dl, would i feel a big difference for mood and gym at 1300ng/dl? Is this improvement worth the risk of a hormonal shutdown?

When you say "quick arrhythmias", do you mean the occasional premature contraction (feeling of a skipped beat), or do you mean a SUSTAINED arrhythmia where your heart beats quicker for a while out of nowhere?

I had both. Mostly only quick arrhytmias that lets me stand still for a second. But i also had attacks where my heart beat fast and strange for a couple of minutes. I found out that i can stop those, by pressing out my belly as much as possible, and holding my breath.

 

[Gaunt]

I am at 580nd/dl, would i feel a big difference for mood and gym at 1300ng/dl? Is this improvement worth the risk of a hormonal shutdown?

You would feel a difference in strength gains and prob some mood/sex drive as well, your free test is higher on injectables than natural production since(SHBG - Sex hormone binding globulin) is lower on gear. I would NOT do it for a cycle, if you were going on TRT then its a different thing but if you're gonna cycle on/off, just do 500mg/12-16 weeks.

 

[Dicklet.4.3]

id rather die instead of being low t

 

[Deleted member 4054]

I had both. Mostly only quick arrhytmias that lets me stand still for a second. But i also had attacks where my heart beat fast and strange for a couple of minutes. I found out that i can stop those, by pressing out my belly as much as possible, and holding my breath.

You need to wear an event monitor so you can record one of these events in progress