the christian god doesn't know the hour

[doxcine]

most obvious fake and corrupted relegion jfl

 

[joksa23]

most obvious fake and corrupted relegion jfl

debate me here bro

 

[doxcine]

debate me here bro

do you know the hour

 

[iblameCopecels]

 

[Mossicg]

I hate God like how can he not give a shit about us (i'm 5`1 btw)

 

[Hernan]

@PrinceLuenLeoncur i summon you to destroy this mahmoud.

 

[doxcine]

@PrinceLuenLeoncur i summon you to destroy this mahmoud.

bring it on niggers

 

[joksa23]

do you know the hour

You are reffering to Matthew 24:36?
Jesus is fully divine and fully human(unless you follow incel heretic beliefs).In his human nature he limited his divine knowledge.Philippians 2:6-7 explains this.

 

[joksa23]

@PrinceLuenLeoncur i summon you to destroy this mahmoud.

no need for him i'll do it myself

 

[Lefty Rankin]

most obvious fake and corrupted relegion jfl

What do you mean doesn't know the hour?

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

most obvious fake and corrupted relegion jfl

Islam is a joke what a gay faggot religion fuck you


The word know in the Greek is Oiden which means to make KNOWN it’s a declarative sense

Paul uses the same word in 1 Corinthians 2:2

Jesus also says in John 5 he knows all that the father knows and does, he also in acts 1:8 tells his deciples it is not FOR THEM to know the hour.

So Jesus isn’t saying he doesn’t know out of ignorance he’s saying it’s not his time to make it be known stemming from his relational role within the god head as the 2nd person and the first “Knower” in sense of being the primacy the first person being the father. Essentially it’s rhetoric @Hernan

 

[doxcine]

You are reffering to Matthew 24:36?
Jesus is fully divine and fully human(unless you follow incel heretic beliefs).In his human nature he limited his divine knowledge.Philippians 2:6-7 explains this.

most predectible response jfl
saying jesus has 2 natures implique that there's 2 persons, one that knows and one that doesn't and thats polyrhiesm. second, the verse also says not even the holy spirit knows, does it mean it also has 2 natures jfl how a divine being doesn't know the hour
most important thing is that catholics and eastern christians consider this 2 nature bs ti be heresy and leads to nestorianism

 

[joksa23]

most predectible response jfl
saying jesus has 2 natures implique that there's 2 persons, one that knows and one that doesn't and thats polyrhiesm. second, the verse also says not even the holy spirit knows, does it mean it also has 2 natures jfl how a divine being doesn't know the hour
most important thing is that catholics and eastern christians consider this 2 nature bs ti be heresy and leads to nestorianism

You're confusing key doctrines. Jesus having two natures (divine and human) doesn’t mean He’s two persons ,that’s Nestorianism, which Christianity condemns. The orthodox view (affirmed by Catholics and Eastern Orthodox) is that Jesus is one Person with two natures, not polytheism.

Philippians 2:6–7 shows that Jesus voluntarily limited Himself in His human experience (kenosis), not that He stopped being divine.

Also, Matthew 24:36 says nothing about the Holy Spirit not knowing ,you’re adding that in.

You're misreading Scripture and misrepresenting Christian theology.

 

[doxcine]

Islam is a joke what a gay faggot religion fuck you


The word know in the Greek is Oiden which means to make KNOWN it’s a declarative sense

Paul uses the same word in 1 Corinthians 2:2

Jesus also says in John 5 he knows all that the father knows and does, he also in acts 1:8 tells his deciples it is not FOR THEM to know the hour.

So Jesus isn’t saying he doesn’t know out of ignorance he’s saying it’s not his time to make it be known stemming from his relational role within the god head as the 2nd person and the first “Knower” in sense of being the primacy the first person being the father. Essentially it’s rhetoric @Hernan

another cope of a response

the word oideis and was written before oiden that means "nobody" which means it also exclude the son and holy spirit

and also features οὐδὲ ὁ Υἱός means "nor even" the son or the holy spirit

 

[doxcine]

You're confusing key doctrines. Jesus having two natures (divine and human) doesn’t mean He’s two persons ,that’s Nestorianism, which Christianity condemns. The orthodox view (affirmed by Catholics and Eastern Orthodox) is that Jesus is one Person with two natures, not polytheism.

Philippians 2:6–7 shows that Jesus voluntarily limited Himself in His human experience (kenosis), not that He stopped being divine.

Also, Matthew 24:36 says nothing about the Holy Spirit not knowing ,you’re adding that in.

You're misreading Scripture and misrepresenting Christian theology.

buddy that literally what you said jesus is human and divine, thats two natures you can't be both human and divine without having 2 natures , i did't add shit mark 13:23 says only the father know the hour"
if jesus is divine then how come john 5 :30 says he can't do everthing by himself, he can't be human and divine thats 2 heresy

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

You're confusing key doctrines. Jesus having two natures (divine and human) doesn’t mean He’s two persons ,that’s Nestorianism, which Christianity condemns. The orthodox view (affirmed by Catholics and Eastern Orthodox) is that Jesus is one Person with two natures, not polytheism.

Philippians 2:6–7 shows that Jesus voluntarily limited Himself in His human experience (kenosis), not that He stopped being divine.

Also, Matthew 24:36 says nothing about the Holy Spirit not knowing ,you’re adding that in.

You're misreading Scripture and misrepresenting Christian theology.

Don’t use this one as no church father affirms or believes that Jesus was ever limited in his knowledge. At most you could say it was subconsciously hidden away much like that of an misplaced item that your brain knows but you cannot access that memeory


But Athanasus, Origen etc all affirm it is simply rhetoric. Same with St John Damascus

St basil has a unique take that hold to which he speaks about in his letter 236 where he states that the use of knowing isn’t used in scripture the same way it is used in common dialogue, instead Jesus is referring to his Trinitarian economic role off the father being the “first knower” on account of the father being the unbegotten source of the trinity through which all originates from.

Hr yeah your answer isn’t a good one tbh simply stating the communicatum idiomatum just proves ops point of Jesus not knowing. There’s a reason why I was summoned here to humble the pedophile followers of the Gay faggot Mohammed

 

[doxcine]

Don’t use this one as no church father affirms or believes that Jesus was ever limited in his knowledge. At most you could say it was subconsciously hidden away much like that of an misplaced item that your brain knows but you cannot access that memeory


But Athanasus, Origen etc all affirm it is simply rhetoric. Same with St John Damascus

St basil has a unique take that hold to which he speaks about in his letter 236 where he states that the use of knowing isn’t used in scripture the same way it is used in common dialogue, instead Jesus is referring to his Trinitarian economic role off the father being the “first knower” on account of the father being the unbegotten source of the trinity through which all originates from.

Hr yeah your answer isn’t a good one tbh simply stating the communicatum idiomatum just proves ops point of Jesus not knowing. There’s a reason why I was summoned here to humble the pedophile followers of the Gay faggot Mohammed

both your response fail clown ass polytheists lmao

tryna pull the greek card is a totale failure

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

another cope of a response

the word oideis and was written before oiden that means "nobody" which means it also exclude the son and holy spirit

and also features οὐδὲ ὁ Υἱός means "nor even" the son or the holy spirit

Oiden is literally what “Know” means in Greek you fucking idiot

The NT was written in Greek you dumbass

Notice how Jesus delineates himself from humans and angels…. What else could he be?

He’s not a human

He’s not an angel

But he isn’t the father

Use your inbred Mohammeden brain to answer this question who COULD Christ actually be claiming to BE HMM . almost as if the Son isn’t the Father but he also isn’t a creature (Human/Angel)

You wrote yourself into a corner with this one ABDOOL


Riddle me this how many creators do you have in the Quran? Ima show your a polythiest in a hot min don’t worry allahu ackbar boy

 

[doxcine]

imma go take a shower then continue to humiliate these clowns

 

[doxcine]

Oiden is literally what “Know” means in Greek you fucking idiot

The NT was written in Greek you dumbass

Notice how Jesus delineates himself from humans and angels…. What else could he be?

He’s not a human

He’s not an angel

But he isn’t the father

Use your inbred Mohammeden brain to answer this question who COULD Christ actually be claiming to BE HMM . almost as if the Son isn’t the Father but he also isn’t a creature (Human/Angel)

You wrote yourself into a corner with this one ABDOOL

go read your fucking book nigger and search what comes before oiden

οὐδὲ ὁ Υἱό means nobody or not even, it became before oiden, so it means the not knowers include jesus and the holy spirit which means you're a polytheist human worshipper
if he delineat himself from human and angel , could he be divine ? fuck noo nigger johnjohn 5 :30 says he can't do everything by himself which means you worship a fucking uselees god or you can be honest and admit he's human

you wrote yourself in a cornor rankeesh better luck next time

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

go read your fucking book nigger and search what comes before oiden

οὐδὲ ὁ Υἱό means nobody or not even, it became before oiden, so it means the not knowers include jesus and the holy spirit which means you're a polytheist human worshipper
if he delineat himself from human and angel , could he be divine ? fuck noo nigger johnjohn 5 :30 says he can't do everything by himself which means you worship a fucking uselees god or you can be honest and admit he's human

you wrote yourself in a cornor rankeesh better luck next time

How many creators are there in the Quran

You failed to even refute the point and to the other guy you brought up John 5:30…. Wow Islamic brain over here


Jesus doesn’t do anything alone for everything the TRINITY DOES IS AS ONE IN ONE ACTION IN ONE WILL IN ONE MIND. This is simple trinitarian economia

John 5:19 “Jesus gave them this answer: “Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does.”


Now abdooo plz tell me which prophet can claim to do everything GOD DOES please I ask of you stupid Gaydooooolah you are cucking yourself here you failed to refute that Jesus isn’t god and you have failed to refute how “Knowing” isn’t used in the sense of a declarative. And remember the Bible states that the son knows all the father knows

So ofc he knows everything as well. Major L for Allahu Ackbarians


Your entire argument rests on Word concept fallacies it’s pathetic tbh

 

[Nahil]

ALL of them are fake and stupid but it's pointless to make any of these threads, they just attract apologists who interpret scriptures however they will and are impossible to argue against. Look up the concept of monarchic trinity, that's their answer for this type of shit

 

[TheLightOfMyLife]

nothing is more annoying than christcuck debatecels who spend hours upon hours devising roundabout copes for their bullshit.
jfl at going up to someone and saying “debate me” fucking loser

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

ALL of them are fake and stupid but it's pointless to make any of these threads, they just attract apologists who interpret scriptures however they will and are impossible to argue against. Look up the concept of monarchic trinity, that's their answer for this type of shit

Monarchical trijitarianism is the original form of trinitarianism that eastern Christian’s still adhere 2

Western Christians are only recently finding out about this form of it which they lost due to Roman Catholic Thomistic retardation which Protestants inherited as they are from Romans Catholics.

If you and the Mohammedens hate it then debunk it until then I suggest you both STFU and sit down

 

[doxcine]

How many creators are there in the Quran

You failed to even refute the point and to the other guy you brought up John 5:30…. Wow Islamic brain over here


Jesus doesn’t do anything alone for everything the TRINITY DOES IS AS ONE IN ONE ACTION IN ONE WILL IN ONE MIND. This is simple trinitarian economia

John 5:19 “Jesus gave them this answer: “Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does.”


Now abdooo plz tell me which prophet can claim to do everything GOD DOES please I ask of you stupid Gaydooooolah you are cucking yourself here you failed to refute that Jesus isn’t god and you have failed to refute how “Knowing” isn’t used in the sense of a declarative. And remember the Bible states that the son knows all the father knows

So ofc he knows everything as well. Major L for Allahu Ackbarians


Your entire argument rests on Word concept fallacies it’s pathetic tbh

you failed buddy you try to lie your way out with the greek cope then i shattered it once and for all

the trinity is even worse if jesus can't do everything by himself means he is deficinet not divine and need the father to complete him which makes the 2 persons, how is one mind but eed another to help him

complete delusion if you think you refuted anything

 

[doxcine]

Monarchical trijitarianism is the original form of trinitarianism that eastern Christian’s still adhere 2

Western Christians are only recently finding out about this form of it which they lost due to Roman Catholic Thomistic retardation which Protestants inherited as they are from Romans Catholics.

If you and the Mohammedens hate it then debunk it until then I suggest you both STFU and sit down

stop fucking ltying bicth holy shit

the early christians like justin nigger were not trinitarians

holy fuck the cope and lies chrisccks needs to do to save their fake ass polytheistic relegion

 

[joksa23]

imma go take a shower then continue to humiliate these clowns

We are clearly being respectful here,while you are trying to humiliate us.

 

[joksa23]

stop fucking ltying bicth holy shit

the early christians like justin nigger were not trinitarians

holy fuck the cope and lies chrisccks needs to do to save their fake ass polytheistic relegion

show me proof that he is lying xdd

 

[doxcine]

We are clearly being respectful here,while you are trying to humiliate us.

show me proof that he is lying xdd

they called me a nigger and cursed me

i aplogize to you bro you a nice ass dude i am sorry for cursing you

read dialogue with trypho justin martyr

 

[doxcine]

We are clearly being respectful here,while you are trying to humiliate us.

obv i still respect christians even tho i think they are wrong and my favorite apologist is a christian his name is trent horn

 

[Nahil]

Monarchical trijitarianism is the original form of trinitarianism that eastern Christian’s still adhere 2

Western Christians are only recently finding out about this form of it which they lost due to Roman Catholic Thomistic retardation which Protestants inherited as they are from Romans Catholics.

If you and the Mohammedens hate it then debunk it until then I suggest you both STFU and sit down

Bro i already fucking told you in a previous post, i don't give a shit how muslims, christian or jews interpret fantasy/mythology books

I have nothing to debunk and there is nothing to ever debunk, IN ANY RELIGION as long as there are retarded apologists such as yourself, who can interpret any passage in infinite amount of ways.

Instead of asking teens to debate or debunk you on an incel website, go prove that god is real, or even easier go prove that jesus existed. But don't prove it to us, prove it to the entire world and then head off to Sweden to collect your dozen nobel prizes.

 

[joksa23]

they called me a nigger and cursed me

i aplogize to you bro you a nice ass dude i am sorry for cursing you

read dialogue with trypho justin martyr

hes using chatgpt prob he has that promt

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

stop fucking ltying bicth holy shit

the early christians like justin nigger were not trinitarians

holy fuck the cope and lies chrisccks needs to do to save their fake ass polytheistic relegion

Justin martyr was a trinitarian lol. I know the silly arguments you GAYhammodens like to use but he clearly preached a proto Nicenean trinitarian doctrine but you MO MO pedo followers just spews nonsense relying on nonsensical false equivocation arguments expecting pre nicene fathers to use Post Nicene language as flexibly. Tbh Justin Martyr and Turtullian were superb in articulating it without a standard lexicon used across the board

Infact Tertullian IS THE FIRST ONE TO COIN THE TERM “Trinity” yes him lol


Justin Martyr“We will prove that we worship him reasonably; for we have learned that he is the Son of the true God himself, that he holds a second place, and the Spirit of prophecy a third.
Sounds like the trinity to me

Now answer we me faggot

ANSWER ME MOHAMMEDEN. HOW MANY CREATORS ARE THERE IN ISLAM

you failed buddy you try to lie your way out with the greek cope then i shattered it once and for all

the trinity is even worse if jesus can't do everything by himself means he is deficinet not divine and need the father to complete him which makes the 2 persons, how is one mind but eed another to help him

complete delusion if you think you refuted anything

You shattered nothing you haven’t proven how Jesus doesn’t know the hour lol… I even told you the context the word “Know” is used as an reference to the role of the father as the first pinnacle and source of all things referencing the FIRST knower in a act of primacy, I even showed you verses proving this and you have no response as a GAYhammoden

You can’t even tell me what Jesus is then. If he’s not a Man if he’s not an ANGEL WHAT IS HE YOU FUCKING GAY BITCH ANSWER ME

YOUR DUMBASS EVEN USED JOHN 5 and then ran like a faggot when I pulled you up on John 5 and showed you 5:19 showing JESUS DOES ALL THAT THE FATHER DOES.


You ran once more when I showed you the term knowing is not one out of ignorance in the sense your making it hence why in 1 Corinthians 2:2 states, "For I determined not to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified. Are you going to say Paul knew nothing other than Jesus was crucified? He didn’t even know his own name? Even you know that’s dumb fucking fix up idiot


acts 1:7 states that Jesus is telling his men it’s not for them to know the time. John 5:20 states Jesus knows all the father knows.


So if he knows all the father knows and does all the father does then what does that mean you stupid twat

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Bro i already fucking told you in a previous post, i don't give a shit how muslims, christian or jews interpret fantasy/mythology books

I have nothing to debunk and there is nothing to ever debunk, IN ANY RELIGION as long as there are retarded apologists such as yourself, who can interpret any passage in infinite amount of ways.

Instead of asking teens to debate or debunk you on an incel website, go prove that god is real, or even easier go prove that jesus existed. But don't prove it to us, prove it to the entire world and then head off to Sweden to collect your dozen nobel prizes.

Then why tf do you bother posting then. Stfu and never post on a religious thread again your such an annoying cunt. Fucking keep your trap shut then don’t speak on my religion and others if you have nothing to add or run scared like a little bitch when confronted even the sandnigger faggot OP has more balls then you

I have proven Jesus is real etc etc many times it’s not my fault you missed those threads JFL dude STFU

 

[Harold O'brien]

god thinks the earth is 6000 years old and species were created as they are today

he is legit retarded

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

hes using chatgpt prob he has that promt

Yes because saying

St Justin Martyr:
“For, in the name of God, the Father and Lord of the universe, and of our Savior Jesus Christ, and of the Holy Spirit, they then receive the washing with water” (First Apol., LXI).

And

“God distinct from the Father conversed with Moses. Justin: Permit me, further, to show you from the book of Exodus how this same One, who is both Angel, and God, and Lord, and man, and who appeared in human form to Abraham and Isaac, appeared in a flame of fire from the bush, and conversed with Moses.“


The GAYhammoden will do anything to deceive and lie about our blessed Saint Justin. This is the fruits of SHITSlamb

 

[Nahil]

Then why tf do you bother posting then. Stfu and never post on a religious thread again your such an annoying cunt. Fucking keep your trap shut then don’t speak on my religion and others if you have nothing to add or run scared like a little bitch when confronted even the sandnigger faggot OP has more balls then you

I have proven Jesus is real etc etc many times it’s not my fault you missed those threads JFL dude STFU

jaja he has proven then you and your daddy gay dyer should pick up your nobel prizes for such a monumental discovery

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

jaja he has proven then you and your daddy gay dyer should pick up your nobel prizes for such a monumental discovery

Right just like last time you brought up Jewish bullshit which I debunked you tried relying on Rashi I brought up Rebbe Ruth and Jonathan Targum all of which are 1st century and later(earlier) proving what TRUE Jews believed instead of 9th century Rashi who was writing to counter Christians and like the fag you are you ran.

These convos do not concern your little head stfu and STAY out of them bitch enter my ignore forever more I’ll never converse with you again go drink lead

 

[sigma boii]

@PrinceLuenLeoncur i summon you to destroy this mahmoud.

Christian and SS bolts in bio

 

[doxcine]

Justin martyr was a trinitarian lol. I know the silly arguments you GAYhammodens like to use but he clearly preached a proto Nicenean trinitarian doctrine but you MO MO pedo followers just spews nonsense relying on nonsensical false equivocation arguments expecting pre nicene fathers to use Post Nicene language as flexibly. Tbh Justin Martyr and Turtullian were superb in articulating it without a standard lexicon used across the board

Infact Tertullian IS THE FIRST ONE TO COIN THE TERM “Trinity” yes him lol


Justin Martyr“We will prove that we worship him reasonably; for we have learned that he is the Son of the true God himself, that he holds a second place, and the Spirit of prophecy a third.
Sounds like the trinity to me

Now answer we me faggot

ANSWER ME MOHAMMEDEN. HOW MANY CREATORS ARE THERE IN ISLAM

You shattered nothing you haven’t proven how Jesus doesn’t know the hour lol… I even told you the context the word “Know” is used as an reference to the role of the father as the first pinnacle and source of all things referencing the FIRST knower in a act of primacy, I even showed you verses proving this and you have no response as a GAYhammoden

You can’t even tell me what Jesus is then. If he’s not a Man if he’s not an ANGEL WHAT IS HE YOU FUCKING GAY BITCH ANSWER ME

YOUR DUMBASS EVEN USED JOHN 5 and then ran like a faggot when I pulled you up on John 5 and showed you 5:19 showing JESUS DOES ALL THAT THE FATHER DOES.


You ran once more when I showed you the term knowing is not one out of ignorance in the sense your making it hence why in 1 Corinthians 2:2 states, "For I determined not to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified. Are you going to say Paul knew nothing other than Jesus was crucified? He didn’t even know his own name? Even you know that’s dumb fucking fix up idiot


acts 1:7 states that Jesus is telling his men it’s not for them to know the time. John 5:20 states Jesus knows all the father knows.


So if he knows all the father knows and does all the father does then what does that mean you stupid twat

destroying once again

this nigger try to defend his so called god not knowing the hour by trying to lie his way out and cope withe word oiden but this little nigger doesn't show you the word that comes before the word oiden in the verse which is οὐδεὶς / oudeis that means nor or nobody

so that the verse means nor the son nor the holy spirit which makes the englsh translation correct which means jesus is not a god and if he copes with the twoo natyre thing i already destroyed it above
proving just was not a trinitiarian from his book

yes ladies and gentelmen above him there is no other god looooool

theres alot to show but i am not home sadly to show the whole thing once i get back i will prove that trinity wans't a concept in the early church

 

[Nahil]

Right just like last time you brought up Jewish bullshit which I debunked you tried relying on Rashi I brought up Rebbe Ruth and Jonathan Targum all of which are 1st century and later(earlier) proving what TRUE Jews believed instead of 9th century Rashi who was writing to counter Christians and like the fag you are you ran.

These convos do not concern your little head stfu and STAY out of them bitch enter my ignore forever more I’ll never converse with you again go drink lead

I brought it up only to show your that different interpretations will always exist, should i have brought up list of reason why jooz dont accept jesus as messiah, just so you can post your interpretations saying "oh but jesus fulfilled this spiritially, then this other thing is metaphorical" like fuck off bro

Also your "true" jooz were considered a heretic minority, while the majority was still sacrificing and celebrating in their temple for 40 years. You quoting people who said some shit which aligns with your and your churches views is irrelevant,unless we get a divine revelation confirming or denying it. Until then you can't prove or disprove that there is a god.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

destroying once again

this nigger try to defend his so called god not knowing the hour by trying to lie his way out and cope withe word oiden but this little nigger doesn't show you the word that comes before the word oiden in the verse which is οὐδεὶς / oudeis that means nor or nobody

so that the verse means nor the son nor the holy spirit which makes the englsh translation correct which means jesus is not a god and if he copes with the twoo natyre thing i already destroyed it above
proving just was not a trinitiarian from his book

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yes ladies and gentelmen above him there is no other god looooool

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theres alot to show but i am not home sadly to show the whole thing once i get back i will prove that trinity wans't a concept in the early church

YOU FAILED AGAIN AND AGAIN TO PROVE JESUS DOESNT KNOW THE HOUR OUT OF IGNORANCE YOU FAILED TOU FAILED YOU FAILED YOU COULDNT EVEN REFUTE A SINGLE ONE OF MY COMMENTS YOU STUPID GAYHAMMODEN

THEN YOU RUN FROM MY QUESTION: HOW MANY CREATORS ARE THERE IN SHITSLSAM I SWEAR I SHIT ON YOUR GAY FAGGOT ALLAH GOD FUCK YOUR ALLAH AND FUCK YOUR GAY FAGGOT MOHAMMED I SHIT ON YOU AND THE GAYRAN QURAN THE GAY BOOK









And you failed yet again to prove Justin martyr is a Heretic Unitarian or Logos theologian.

ANOTHER GOD is in reference to there being another PERSON (Agent) with all the things proper to be called GOD, YOU ABSOLUTE IDIOT. The term “GOD” is a generic TERM it can PICK OUT THE IDENTITY OF THE FATHER and PREDICATION OF THE SON/SPIRIT THE DIVINE ESSENSE OR EVEN ACTION(OPERATION)

Learn how the patristics and ancients viewed the word god

THE SON AND SPIRIT ARE ANOTHER GOD IN THE SENSE OF THEM BOTH HAVING THE SAME DIVINE NATURE AS THE FATHER WHILST BEING DISTINCT THATS WHY WE CHRISTIANS SAY IN IUR SHAHADA “WE BELIVE IN ONE GOD THE FATHER ALMIGHTY” AND STILL CALL JESUS GOD AT THE SAME TIME LEARN THAT WORDS HAVE MORE THAN ONE MEANING YOU STUPID TWAT GAYHAMMODEN


NOTICE HE CALLS JESUS THE ANGEL LMFAO WHICH PROVES MY LAST COMMENT WHERE I QUOTED “God distinct from the Father conversed with Moses. Justin: Permit me, further, to show you from the book of Exodus how this same One, who is both Angel, and God, and Lord, and man, and who appeared in human form to Abraham and Isaac, appeared in a flame of fire from the bush, and conversed with Moses.“


You stupid cunt



Are you also dumb all things after him are begotten alll things after him

Justin like all Christian’s affirm THE SON AND SPIRIT EXISTED ETERNALLY BEYOND SPACE TIME FOR EVER AND THUS THEY DONT FIT INTO THIS CATAGORY OF THE BEGOTTEN THINGS YOU DUMB CUNT



FOR YOUR 2nd quotation

Dialogue with Trypho, chapters 61 and 62, he speaks of the SON as begotten before all creatures, participating in the divine essence:

“This power was begotten from the Father, by His power and will, but not as though He were cut off from the Father… as when we light a fire from fire.”

The fire analogy proves they are off the same substance

Justin was an ex platonist so he draws from middle platonism which is of the belief that Begotten can mean eternal derivation as opposed to temporal creation

So there’s a clear VERY CLEAR DISTINCTION BETWEEN UNCREATED PERSONS AND CREATED BEINGS. So it’s used in a different sense, yes the son is begotten but notice he is NEVER CALLED CREATED, which proves my point

So when Justin also speaks on incorruptibility he is referring to the divjine nature behind immutable, eternal, and unaffected by change or decay. Whilst also applying incorruptibility to Christ as well, especially in His divine nature:

In 1 Apology 63, Justin says:
“The Word, who is the first-born of God, is Himself God, and we worship Him.”


Your dumbass is expecting a pre Nicene Christian to use perfect Cappodocian language to speak about the trinity which is ridiculous your reading back into the text from your modernist Islamic low IQ sandnigger lenses into my beloved Saint fuck you

@Hernan @joksa23 dont be fooled by the GAYhammoden and Unitarian heretics learn the patristics brothers

 

[Hernan]

YOU FAILED AGAIN AND AGAIN TO PROVE JESUS DOESNT KNOW THE HOUR OUT OF IGNORANCE YOU FAILED TOU FAILED YOU FAILED YOU COULDNT EVEN REFUTE A SINGLE ONE OF MY COMMENTS YOU STUPID GAYHAMMODEN

THEN YOU RUN FROM MY QUESTION: HOW MANY CREATORS ARE THERE IN SHITSLSAM I SWEAR I SHIT ON YOUR GAY FAGGOT ALLAH GOD FUCK YOUR ALLAH AND FUCK YOUR GAY FAGGOT MOHAMMED I SHIT ON YOU AND THE GAYRAN QURAN THE GAY BOOK









And you failed yet again to prove Justin martyr is a Heretic Unitarian or Logos theologian.

ANOTHER GOD is in reference to there being another PERSON (Agent) with all the things proper to be called GOD, YOU ABSOLUTE IDIOT. The term “GOD” is a generic TERM it can PICK OUT THE IDENTITY OF THE FATHER and PREDICATION OF THE SON/SPIRIT THE DIVINE ESSENSE OR EVEN ACTION(OPERATION)

Learn how the patristics and ancients viewed the word god

THE SON AND SPIRIT ARE ANOTHER GOD IN THE SENSE OF THEM BOTH HAVING THE SAME DIVINE NATURE AS THE FATHER WHILST BEING DISTINCT THATS WHY WE CHRISTIANS SAY IN IUR SHAHADA “WE BELIVE IN ONE GOD THE FATHER ALMIGHTY” AND STILL CALL JESUS GOD AT THE SAME TIME LEARN THAT WORDS HAVE MORE THAN ONE MEANING YOU STUPID TWAT GAYHAMMODEN


NOTICE HE CALLS JESUS THE ANGEL LMFAO WHICH PROVES MY LAST COMMENT WHERE I QUOTED “God distinct from the Father conversed with Moses. Justin: Permit me, further, to show you from the book of Exodus how this same One, who is both Angel, and God, and Lord, and man, and who appeared in human form to Abraham and Isaac, appeared in a flame of fire from the bush, and conversed with Moses.“


You stupid cunt



Are you also dumb all things after him are begotten alll things after him

Justin like all Christian’s affirm THE SON AND SPIRIT EXISTED ETERNALLY BEYOND SPACE TIME FOR EVER AND THUS THEY DONT FIT INTO THIS CATAGORY OF THE BEGOTTEN THINGS YOU DUMB CUNT



FOR YOUR 2nd quotation

Dialogue with Trypho, chapters 61 and 62, he speaks of the SON as begotten before all creatures, participating in the divine essence:

“This power was begotten from the Father, by His power and will, but not as though He were cut off from the Father… as when we light a fire from fire.”

The fire analogy proves they are off the same substance

Justin was an ex platonist so he draws from middle platonism which is of the belief that Begotten can mean eternal derivation as opposed to temporal creation

So there’s a clear VERY CLEAR DISTINCTION BETWEEN UNCREATED PERSONS AND CREATED BEINGS. So it’s used in a different sense, yes the son is begotten but notice he is NEVER CALLED CREATED, which proves my point

So when Justin also speaks on incorruptibility he is referring to the divjine nature behind immutable, eternal, and unaffected by change or decay. Whilst also applying incorruptibility to Christ as well, especially in His divine nature:

In 1 Apology 63, Justin says:
“The Word, who is the first-born of God, is Himself God, and we worship Him.”


Your dumbass is expecting a pre Nicene Christian to use perfect Cappodocian language to speak about the trinity which is ridiculous your reading back into the text from your modernist Islamic low IQ sandnigger lenses into my beloved Saint fuck you

@Hernan @joksa23 dont be fooled by the GAYhammoden and Unitarian heretics learn the patristics brothers

over for him well done g.

 

[Hernan]

Christian and SS bolts in bio

well read.

 

[Tyler1]

I hate God like how can he not give a shit about us (i'm 5`1 btw)

blame your ancestors and your parents

 

[truelurker]

Another 3 page thread please

 

[doxcine]

YOU FAILED AGAIN AND AGAIN TO PROVE JESUS DOESNT KNOW THE HOUR OUT OF IGNORANCE YOU FAILED TOU FAILED YOU FAILED YOU COULDNT EVEN REFUTE A SINGLE ONE OF MY COMMENTS YOU STUPID GAYHAMMODEN

THEN YOU RUN FROM MY QUESTION: HOW MANY CREATORS ARE THERE IN SHITSLSAM I SWEAR I SHIT ON YOUR GAY FAGGOT ALLAH GOD FUCK YOUR ALLAH AND FUCK YOUR GAY FAGGOT MOHAMMED I SHIT ON YOU AND THE GAYRAN QURAN THE GAY BOOK









And you failed yet again to prove Justin martyr is a Heretic Unitarian or Logos theologian.

ANOTHER GOD is in reference to there being another PERSON (Agent) with all the things proper to be called GOD, YOU ABSOLUTE IDIOT. The term “GOD” is a generic TERM it can PICK OUT THE IDENTITY OF THE FATHER and PREDICATION OF THE SON/SPIRIT THE DIVINE ESSENSE OR EVEN ACTION(OPERATION)

Learn how the patristics and ancients viewed the word god

THE SON AND SPIRIT ARE ANOTHER GOD IN THE SENSE OF THEM BOTH HAVING THE SAME DIVINE NATURE AS THE FATHER WHILST BEING DISTINCT THATS WHY WE CHRISTIANS SAY IN IUR SHAHADA “WE BELIVE IN ONE GOD THE FATHER ALMIGHTY” AND STILL CALL JESUS GOD AT THE SAME TIME LEARN THAT WORDS HAVE MORE THAN ONE MEANING YOU STUPID TWAT GAYHAMMODEN


NOTICE HE CALLS JESUS THE ANGEL LMFAO WHICH PROVES MY LAST COMMENT WHERE I QUOTED “God distinct from the Father conversed with Moses. Justin: Permit me, further, to show you from the book of Exodus how this same One, who is both Angel, and God, and Lord, and man, and who appeared in human form to Abraham and Isaac, appeared in a flame of fire from the bush, and conversed with Moses.“


You stupid cunt



Are you also dumb all things after him are begotten alll things after him

Justin like all Christian’s affirm THE SON AND SPIRIT EXISTED ETERNALLY BEYOND SPACE TIME FOR EVER AND THUS THEY DONT FIT INTO THIS CATAGORY OF THE BEGOTTEN THINGS YOU DUMB CUNT



FOR YOUR 2nd quotation

Dialogue with Trypho, chapters 61 and 62, he speaks of the SON as begotten before all creatures, participating in the divine essence:

“This power was begotten from the Father, by His power and will, but not as though He were cut off from the Father… as when we light a fire from fire.”

The fire analogy proves they are off the same substance

Justin was an ex platonist so he draws from middle platonism which is of the belief that Begotten can mean eternal derivation as opposed to temporal creation

So there’s a clear VERY CLEAR DISTINCTION BETWEEN UNCREATED PERSONS AND CREATED BEINGS. So it’s used in a different sense, yes the son is begotten but notice he is NEVER CALLED CREATED, which proves my point

So when Justin also speaks on incorruptibility he is referring to the divjine nature behind immutable, eternal, and unaffected by change or decay. Whilst also applying incorruptibility to Christ as well, especially in His divine nature:

In 1 Apology 63, Justin says:
“The Word, who is the first-born of God, is Himself God, and we worship Him.”


Your dumbass is expecting a pre Nicene Christian to use perfect Cappodocian language to speak about the trinity which is ridiculous your reading back into the text from your modernist Islamic low IQ sandnigger lenses into my beloved Saint fuck you

@Hernan @joksa23 dont be fooled by the GAYhammoden and Unitarian heretics learn the patristics brothers

notice how he is running from the word (οὐδὲ ὁ Υἱό) that shatter his whole verse making the translation bs is some cope

he hasn't adressed a single time he just keep saying you failed but he is a lying coward we runnig it again the translation to english is right when we adress the word (οὐδὲ ὁ Υἱός) which means nor the son or the holy spirit knowing the holy spirit thats out of the way lets destroy him lying for justin once and for all
“The Word, who is the first-born of God, is Himself God, and we worship Him.”

he seems as a trinitarian right ? fuck noooooooo
"the host of the other angels who follow" so either justin worship angels too or there's a distinction being made, ofc he is an angel worshipper lmao its clear that he views jesus less than a father making him not god

then he copes about the meaning the word begotten let us let justing shit on you

he shits on you niggers clearly with showing the ontological diffrence betwwen them, onne is contanined by a place and one cannot come down becasue he is clearly higher ontologicly

your response faile once gain and deep seek can't hel you

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

notice how he is running from the word (οὐδὲ ὁ Υἱό) that shatter his whole verse making the translation bs is some cope

he hasn't adressed a single time he just keep saying you failed but he is a lying coward we runnig it again the translation to english is right when we adress the word (οὐδὲ ὁ Υἱός) which means nor the son or the holy spirit knowing the holy spirit thats out of the way lets destroy him lying for justin once and for all
“The Word, who is the first-born of God, is Himself God, and we worship Him.”

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he seems as a trinitarian right ? fuck noooooooo
"the host of the other angels who follow" so either justin worship angels too or there's a distinction being made, ofc he is an angel worshipper lmao its clear that he views jesus less than a father making him not god

then he copes about the meaning the word begotten let us let justing shit on you
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he shits on you niggers clearly with showing the ontological diffrence betwwen them, onne is contanined by a place and one cannot come down becasue he is clearly higher ontologicly

your response faile once gain and deep seek can't hel you

Nobody ran from the word you can’t even answer what Jesus is read the entire verse… READ IT ALL


If Jesus isn’t man, nor angel what is he

Go on answer fucking bitch I swear where do you live ima find you and stab you fucking cunt

I addressed your points over 5 times in multiple ways and you can’t argue with it clearly… so you just say “Buh the word nobody is used “ ok cool so let’s take that so if Jesus distinguishes himself from angels and humans what is he….


Go on ABDOOOL it isn’t so hard now is it




He is a Trinitarian, yes he’s heavily leaning into his tomboy’s middle platonic view however the reality is that the first pinnacle is above all and all comes from him (this is traditinal monarchical view btw) and that is all comes from the father including the Logos and the spirit and that’s ok.

St basil in letter 38 answer this. True god references the father being the Aitia (source) and the Archae (Fount). So yes the Father is the one true god in the sense of him being the head of the godhead the source of the trinity and all that exists and him being the unbegotten the uncaused one…. As an Orthodox Christian I affirm this… why don’t GAYHAMMODALLLLLAHAHAHAH IS A FAGHOT ALLAH IS GAY niggers say this shit?

Is Allah a gay man is Allah a faggot Allah sucks my dick and Mohammed I raped I raped Mohammed fucked him like the Al Zurich


We even have words for this as I jsut showed your dumbass

The Son is the image of god, his literal intellect his WORD. And through his word we know God.

Well we don’t know if the son can or cannot come down but scripture hints to the fact that the father never lets himself be seen and that’s it. Basically you failed.

I even used his quote here lol

“This power was begotten from the Father, by His power and will, but not as though He were cut off from the Father… as when we light a fire from fire.”

Read it you fucking idiot, he’s distinct from the father but not separate from him he is one with him in essense so how can Justin think he is ontologically different you fucking DONUT

 

[Mossicg]

blame your ancestors and your parents

def my parents for how they grew me but why still, wouldn't god prefer us to be all happy

 

[joksa23]

Stop arguring about each others religion this is not a debate,this is pure shittalk and insulting.Why don't you instead of proving which God exists,go out and help someone and prove that you are worthy of your religion.I understand insulting someone for looks because this is a incel website,but insulting each others religion is a whole another level.God bless you and have a nice day!
Please moderators close this thread.

@PrinceLuenLeoncur @doxcine @Hernan @TechnoBoss