The essence of a man / masculinity

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Some thoughts from first observations of the forum

Guys trying to better themselves is a great thing. I think to get what we truly want requires us to have self leadership - "It doesn't matter how fast you climb a ladder if its leaning against the wrong wall" and leadership is putting it on the right wall. So what do we want as a goal? Buddhists would say something like, at the root, everyone wants contentment. But we can't want contentment because thats a paradox, contentment is a desireless state... So they say, we have to let it come to us. Its a bit like getting an erection or taking a shit, it kind of just happens and we can't force it.

Enter the ultimate contentment: the flow state. Psychologically theres no better place to be. Its the psychology of optimal experience.

I just read @Salludon 's thread about how he feels he's wasted time not getting an education. Dude, you've achieved the pinnacle of lookmaxxing, we can all agree on that. Absolute fucking chad. But still, even in this "gigachad" state, contentment is not complete.

The only issue we're at risk here with the concept of looksmaxxing is the goal of looking better alone won't satisfy. What happens when we look like a giga chad? The grass always looks greener elsewhere. Gigachad state does not equal transcending consciousness. The essence of masculinity i'd say is to do; to be a doer. To strive for things, to make things happen, or to respond in an honourable way to things (a self-defined honour even). Stoicism sort of touches on this - gigachad spirit needs to be developed equally.

Looksmaxxing is good in the sense that we're actively striving to improve. Its self development. So is striving to get a good job, developing a "can do" attitude, practicing and slowly mastering a craft or a sport, or any hobby really. The truth is the state of flow and the contentment is in the journey, not the destination.

Chalking everything up to "it just is how it is" - to me, I see that as a harmful view. Unarguably, there is truth to it. Some things are just the way they are. You can't strive to be another animal through a positive attitude. But you know what we can do? Align our goals to whats important AND whats achievable and chip away at that every day. If you get it or not becomes secondary, it's in the striving that matters. And start small... when we're in a dark place, our confidence is shot and we have no belief. We need to start small, build the belief, piece by piece. And just keep going. It doesn't matter how slow we go, we're either growing or decaying, so we just need to keep growing, piece by piece, until we have a fucking empire.

I've recently come through a dark time in life, and these were some of the thoughts that I came out the other end with. Anyway, truth should speak for itself "Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is."
 
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interesting first thread op , but looks are everything and women will stay whores
 
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Greycel moment, this forum is not that high iq, in 2 months you'll be posting meme images and oneliners to farm reps.

Good post though.

In life you are never finished. Everything is in a constant state of change. Nothing stays the same.
 
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interesting first thread op , but looks are everything and women will stay whores
kill yourself piece of shit, i FUCKING HATE YOUR AVI
 
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Greycel moment, this forum is not that high iq, in 2 months you'll be posting meme images and oneliners to farm reps.

Good post though.

In life you are never finished. Everything is in a constant state of change. Nothing stays the same.
Brutal and true

Misogispiderman
 
interesting first thread op , but looks are everything and women will stay whores
Women being whores or not is irrelevant in terms of our life and our experience through it with well-oriented goals. If we acquire looks to get women - this is sounding a bit like simpmaxxing. I.e. we should acquire looks for ourselves, and everything else for ourselves. And more women are just one of the byproducts of this. The typical process is sort of like => find woman => impress woman => sleep with woman => hopefully a good time => orgasm. After we've blown our load, what then? It doesn't seem like the holy grail anymore in that moment.

I agree with the sentiment that being a young guy, or even just a guy, can be a cruel harsh world. We can be raised by an overly smothering soft woman and then thrown out in to the real world where no one gives a shit - but our relative experience is that people should give a shit, we go from the highest value (unconditional love) to a very very conditional love based on how we perform etc. But this doesn't matter anyway once you accept it, because its all the same, we just get a more directed set of goals / flow-state to aim for. And this state is never easy (that would be boring), but its not too difficult either (thats unsustainable long term); its just something we chip away at, and as we chip, our abilities get better, and we're able to accomplish more, and get a sense of fulfilment that no one else can give us. In particular, women can't give it to us.
 
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Tldr please can't read that essay
 
"The essence of masculinity i'd say is to do; to be a doer"

my dad has always been someone who gets it done asap no matter what it is about , meanwhile i do everything possible to procastinate. Good thread op
 
I was about to say that no way a greycel is so smart but then I realized if this was an alt of a user here he would already know that he will get spammed with "dn rd" and wouldnt even think about writing so much
 

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