The golden age of OLD (for men) is long gone

[Gargantuan]

Water thread but whatever.

This is suifuel for me in particular because back when Tinder was still in its infancy, let's say between 2015-2017, average-looking guys could still get laid with relative ease using the app. This period coincided with the onset of my balding so that automatically disqualified me from ever partaking in OLD during this period.

It took me until mid/late 2021 to get my hair back and make it look decent again via a hair transplant. Last summer, I finally installed Tinder for the first time and managed to get plenty of matches with attractive girls but basically, all of them ended up ghosting me and I never managed to meet up with them.
OLD is so utterly oversaturated at this point that you really shouldn't have any expectations if you're not at least a chad/chadlite/strong htn.

I probably could have fucked some decent-looking girls during this period if it wasn't for my balding.

 

[GandyIsNormie]

CCorso

 

[Deleted member 7580]

It’s not the app or hypergamy

Refugee poured into Netherlands so there are far more men now fighting for attention of same few girls (actually less than before)

 

[Yliaster]

Noticed you changed over to the coomer avi bro lol,what made you fail NNN ?

 

[Erik-Jón]

@StrangerDanger you better protect your hair

Garg was like early 20s and all his laying potential dried up because he was already fucking balding bad

 

[Deleted member 21340]

Whats going to be your alternative method going forward seeing as OLD is virtually impossible for sub chadlites these days

 

[firethorn]

if getting laid is so difficult why do most soy redditors have no problem with it?

inb4 the myriad of copes realting to power dynamics. muh he has sex but not in the way I want. just admit you guys are all spineless narcissists with high social inhibitions

 

[Gargantuan]

It’s not the app or hypergamy

Refugee poured into Netherlands so there are far more men now fighting for attention of same few girls (actually less than before)

I've never done any foidfishes before so I cannot tell you what the male demographic that's using Tinder here looks like.

Most females who are using the app here genuinely can't be arsed when it comes to meeting up. All they seem to care about is male attention and farming instagram followers.

 

[Gargantuan]

Noticed you changed over to the coomer avi bro lol,what made you fail NNN ?

Was edging like an abused dog that day so I was always going to fail jfl

 

[Gargantuan]

if getting laid is so difficult why do most soy redditors have no problem with it?

inb4 the myriad of copes realting to power dynamics. muh he has sex but not in the way I want. just admit you guys are all spineless narcissists with high social inhibitions

Ah yes, the infamous soy redditors who have to resort to fucking landwhales and trannies.

Nah, I think I'm good.

 

[Truecel14]

if getting laid is so difficult why do most soy redditors have no problem with it?

inb4 the myriad of copes realting to power dynamics. muh he has sex but not in the way I want. just admit you guys are all spineless narcissists with high social inhibitions

They aren't go on to the tinder subreddits and the average guy is getting 0 matches. Any female who posts gets so much hate as redditors are slowly becoming blackpilled to how big the gap is between men and women smv.

 

[firethorn]

They aren't go on to the tinder subreddits and the average guy is getting 0 matches. Any female who posts gets so much hate as redditors are slowly becoming blackpilled to how big the gap is between men and women smv.

yeah, didn't realise this thread was specifically about dating apps

dating apps are fucked because the ratio of men to women is so off and the women who use them are just there for validation or 10/10s in most cases. not worth your time tbh

 

[Deleted member 22780]

Water

 

[firethorn]

this is the main problem with a lot of incel logic btw. they lack real world experience and think they can just extrapolate online dating to all avenues of life.

 

[Truecel14]

yeah, didn't realise this thread was specifically about dating apps

dating apps are fucked because the ratio of men to women is so off and the women who use them are just there for validation or 10/10s in most cases. not worth your time tbh

I agree that datings apps are super bad but 80 / 20 rule is starting to effect the real world as well

Ignore the 18% women part because they can have sex and time they want to. We are entering a caste system with ugly men not going to reproduce, partially joking but its true. Normies aren't having sex

 

[Gargantuan]

Whats going to be your alternative method going forward seeing as OLD is virtually impossible for sub chadlites these days

I can probably have some success on Tinder with lower-tier girls. I probably am a standardcel to a certain extent as I won't fuck femcels/fat girls but maybe I have to just bite the bullet and try my luck with some LTBs (I mostly aim for beckies cus they are around my looks level).

My social circle has been getting smaller and smaller throughout the years and doesn't allow me to meet new girls so that isn't an option either

Clubbing could be another option but I honestly don't really like the experience in general even though the last time I went, I did get approached by 2 decent-looking girls and managed to make out with them. No follow-ups though.

 

[Gargantuan]

this is the main problem with a lot of incel logic btw. they lack real world experience and think they can just extrapolate online dating to all avenues of life.

I never insinuated that OLD translates to IRL though. Obviously, they operate within vastly different parameters so you cannot really compare them.

I am talking about OLD specifically in this thread.

 

[firethorn]

I agree that datings apps are super bad but 80 / 20 rule is starting to effect the real world as well
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Ignore the 18% women part because they can have sex and time they want to. We are entering a caste system with ugly men not going to reproduce, partially joking but its true. Normies aren't having sex

ignore this part because I want you to... lol

this is just an inevitable result of increasing isolation in a world of technology. I'm not saying the sexes are equal but incels blow it wayyyy out of proportion to cope with their perosnal failures

 

[Deleted member 21340]

I can probably have some success on Tinder with lower-tier girls. I probably am a standardcel to a certain extent as I won't fuck femcels/fat girls but maybe I have to just bite the bullet and try my luck with some LTBs (I mostly am for beckies cus they are around my looks level).

My social circle has been getting smaller and smaller throughout the years and doesn't allow me to meet new girls so that isn't an option either

Clubbing could be another option but I honestly don't really like the experience in general even though the last time I went, I did get approached by 2 decent-looking girls and managed to make out with them. No follow-ups though.

brutal
confined to roastie LTBs on dating apps due to the ever increasing social seclusion one faces as they age

 

[firethorn]

I never insinuated that OLD translates to IRL though. Obviously, they operate within vastly different parameters so you cannot really compare them.

I am talking about OLD specifically in this thread.

it was my bad, I skim read and didn't realise what OLD stood for

 

[Truecel14]

ignore this part because I want you to... lol

this is just an inevitable result of increasing isolation in a world of technology. I'm not saying the sexes are equal but incels blow it wayyyy out of proportion to cope with their perosnal failures

I didn't say ignore this part because I want you to, I gave a perfectly legitmate reason. Becuase that 20% of women have a choice in whether or not they aren't having sex, they can download an app and get 100 dicks delivered to them in a day. These women are choosing not to have sex, while most men aren't

 

[Mouthbreath]

As with everything in life, you need to be able to spot trends and benefit from them early.

 

[Enfant terrible]

just the gender ratio is fucked up better meet women irl

 

[Gargantuan]

As with everything in life, you need to be able to spot trends and benefit from them early.

The just be first pill truly is the epitome of 'the winner takes it all' and can be applied in all walks of life.

 

[firethorn]

I didn't say ignore this part because I want you to, I gave a perfectly legitmate reason. Becuase that 20% of women have a choice in whether or not they aren't having sex, they can download an app and get 100 dicks delivered to them in a day. These women are choosing not to have sex, while most men aren't

it's more similar than you think, this is a very stupid way of looking at things.

for example a man is incel but refuses to date an overweight girl so he has a choice. same for a women who is more picky about her partners

it all comes back to women having a higher parental investment due to pregnancy so being being choosier in mate selection as a result of evolutionary factors. it's extremely retarded to blame women for biology or cry about it 24/7

 

[Mouthbreath]

The just be first pill truly is the epitome of 'the winner takes it all' and can be applied in all walks of life.

I think in the case of making money, being the first is not ideal. Because you usually have to wait a long time, or even for your whole life, until something catches on. The best strategy is to identify opportunities right before or right at the start of mass adoption. That is usually when you get the biggest ROI.

 

[Truecel14]

for example a man is incel but refuses to date an overweight girl so he has a choice. same for a women who is more picky about her partners

All this example does is prove the blackpill. The male being 'picky' is just wanting to date an average / non fat girl, while you couldn't even write down the female equivalent because you know how bad it its. Women want the top percent of men.

 

[firethorn]

All this example does is prove the blackpill. The male being 'picky' is just wanting to date an average / non fat girl, while you couldn't even write down the female equivalent because you know how bad it its. Women want the top percent of men.

not quite

https://assets.csom.umn.edu/assets/71503.pdf

 

[Deleted member 20704]

if getting laid is so difficult why do most soy redditors have no problem with it?

The ones getting laid aren't usually ugly + are gigasocialmaxxer types who endlessly are always around people/trying to fit in.

Much different works at play there than those who expect the women to actually notice them/be smitten/etc. with no social outreach.

Also, depends on the girls. Women ovulating probably won't prefer soys at all ... Even ugly ones still would want lower-tier Chads, etc. Soys just take advantage of propinquity+ time and looking passably decent/non-threatening/"cutecel" looking. It's not all looks for beta types obviously.

There are a handful of girls that'll never be swooned by the soy-type dudes -- might have to do with cycling/ovulation, birth control, etc. More women now like to dominate & lead beta/effeminate men, so that's the growing market that true "soyboys" are capable of being "successful" in.

 

[yoshimitsu]

there have not been good years since 2010 or so

 

[AscensionMan98]

Water thread but whatever.

This is suifuel for me in particular because back when Tinder was still in its infancy, let's say between 2015-2017, average-looking guys could still get laid with relative ease using the app. This period coincided with the onset of my balding so that automatically disqualified me from ever partaking in OLD during this period.

It took me until mid/late 2021 to get my hair back and make it look decent again via a hair transplant. Last summer, I finally installed Tinder for the first time and managed to get plenty of matches with attractive girls but basically, all of them ended up ghosting me and I never managed to meet up with them.
OLD is so utterly oversaturated at this point that you really shouldn't have any expectations if you're not at least a chad/chadlite/strong htn.

I probably could have fucked some decent-looking girls during this period if it wasn't for my balding.

Brutal . When did you realize that the hair was a falio , and your coping classmates were wrong.

And don't feel bad about the flakes I get flaked a lot also. It's honestly a mystery how anyone gets pussy online these days cause I remember larping as a foid on tinder and found so many chads.

So if all these chads match how does a foid commit at all.

Now the hyper high flake rate makes sense. Too many thirsty chads willing to bang even Beckie's so unless u want a fatty it's ober

And their enough fatties that are hypergamous as f anyway they will only for some chadlite and have an army of thirsty men so lonely they'll fuck her

 

[444]

just the gender ratio is fucked up better meet women irl

It's almost impossible to meet women irl unless you're in school, and the ratio isn't fucked up.

there have not been good years since 2010 or so

Tinder didn't exist in 2010

 

[Enfant terrible]

It's almost impossible to meet women irl unless you're in school, and the ratio isn't fucked up.

nah

 

[MoggerGaston]

IRL is worse than OLD

its basically over for dating and girls in general if ur not chad tbh

 

[Deleted member 22093]

For what it's worth, I was hit with the same situation. Was balding for years and couldn't find the cause. I finally did and it's almost grown back now, but many years were wasted. At least I leveled up mentally, but it's painful to think about.

 

[looksseg]

You're wrong, tinder got easier after pandemic, because started to using more, and then it became more a normal thing, and not something that is seen as creepy and low value

 

[Gargantuan]

Brutal . When did you realize that the hair was a falio , and your coping classmates were wrong.

And don't feel bad about the flakes I get flaked a lot also. It's honestly a mystery how anyone gets pussy online these days cause I remember larping as a foid on tinder and found so many chads.

So if all these chads match how does a foid commit at all.

Now the hyper high flake rate makes sense. Too many thirsty chads willing to bang even Beckie's so unless u want a fatty it's ober

And their enough fatties that are hypergamous as f anyway they will only for some chadlite and have an army of thirsty men so lonely they'll fuck her

To this day, my sister has been the only person who has ever said anything about my hair loss without me bringing it up first (I've done the latter on several occasions with other people I know), it happened very late in 2017. By this time, most of the damage had already been done. Classic case of realizing something when it's already too late to reverse/fix it on my own.

Even though that one remark would eventually capitulate me into a few years of crippling insecurity because of the dire situation regarding my hair, I'm actually thankful that she did say it because it would go on to help me realize the severity of my situation and that action had to be taken.

 

[AscensionMan98]

To this day, my sister has been the only person who has ever said anything about my hair loss without me bringing it up first (I've done the latter on several occasions with other people I know), it happened very late in 2017. By this time, most of the damage had already been done. Classic case of realizing something when it's already too late to reverse/fix it on my own.

Even though that one remark would eventually capitulate me into a few years of crippling insecurity because of the dire situation regarding my hair, I'm actually thankful that she did say it because it would go on to help me realize the severity of my situation and that action had to be taken.

Brutal, well glad you caught it at least before ruining your youth completely. Perhaps you can irl max

 

[6ft4]

I got my first tinder slay since 2019 last week and she was LTB at a push
The haydays long gone

 

[Gargantuan]

Brutal, well glad you caught it at least before ruining your youth completely. Perhaps you can irl max

Perhaps, I might have to nichemaxx one way or another. Although now I'm stuck with low collagen and nasolabial folds, JFL at this.

But at least my hair looks decent again and I'm gymmaxxed so it will never truly be over

 

[fukmylyf]

Perhaps, I might have to nichemaxx one way or another. Although now I'm stuck with low collagen and nasolabial folds, JFL at this.

But at least my hair looks decent again and I'm gymmaxxed so it will never truly be over

 

[Gargantuan]

Thx sweet frog

 

[TUSSELEIF]

I wish I was blackpilled in 2017, I would looksmax and larp my age to tindermaxx and be above other teens. Still haunts me today being incel in 2017 and seeing all these blonde women’s soft round squishy asses in the tight black jeans at school that I had no availability to. This one blonde girl with nice ass lives rent free in my head 5 years later

 

[Gargantuan]

I wish I was blackpilled in 2017, I would looksmax and larp my age to tindermaxx and be above other teens. Still haunts me today being incel in 2017 and seeing all these blonde women’s soft round squishy asses in the tight black jeans at school that I had no availability to

It still took me 2 more years to become fully blackpilled, sadly. It definitely was a pivotal turning point in my psyche, though.

In hindsight, I messed up badly by never trying to get any girls when I was 15-18. Little did I know at the time that I would soon be out of the running for like 5 years, only to return to a dating market that is even more fucked up than it had been previously.

 

[yoshimitsu]

Tinder didn't exist in 2010

and not only that but pretty much every field was thousands of times better until 2000s

 

[Deleted member 23558]

not quite

https://assets.csom.umn.edu/assets/71503.pdf

be more specific you just linked a study which talks a lot about social exchange theory as a basis for women being arbiters of sexual commodity, op is talking about hypergamy (i havent read the full study tho)

 

[thecel]

Good riddance. I don’t want average guys getting laid. I’m a bitter and resentful below-average subhuman. Why would I be happy about other men, who have advantages over me, getting laid with ease?

 

[Deleted member 23359]

if getting laid is so difficult why do most soy redditors have no problem with it?

inb4 the myriad of copes realting to power dynamics. muh he has sex but not in the way I want. just admit you guys are all spineless narcissists with high social inhibitions

OOFY DOOF MAXING

 

[Deleted member 23157]

m

 

[Deleted member 23157]

OOFY DOOF MAXING

What is Oofy Doofy?? Is it just MTN looking NT dude? That goes against blackpill.