the illogic of of time determinism

[Deleted member 48352]

If you believe that the Present can be determined from the Past, but that you can control the Present, then that requires that u can control the Past

so either u believe u have no freewill or ur retarded

if u believe u have no freewill then idc what u say as u have no freewill arguing about freewill which is literally pointless nonsense

 

[Toad]

Time is a flat circle, we'll do this again

 

[Deleted member 48352]

Time is a flat circle, we'll do this again

what do u mean?

 

[Deleted member 48352]

@noodlelover

 

[Toad]

what do u mean?

From our perspective we perceive time linearly, forward. But when we imagine it from another dimension it's actually a circle. Given that time is infinite, the probability of the same thing happening over and over again is 100%. Which means that we already had this conversation many times

 

[Deleted member 48352]

From our perspective we perceive time linearly, forward. But when we imagine it from another dimension it's actually a circle. Given that time is infinite, the probability of the same thing happening over and over again is 100%. Which means we already had this conversation many times

time being infinite would make every possibility occur. but are u sure that the present occurring again in the exact same way is actually a possibility?

 

[Deleted member 48352]

time being infinite would make every possibility occur. but are u sure that the present occurring again in the exact same way is actually a possibility?

actually i question my first statement there. can a possibility become an impossibility? something may be possible in this moment but not the next

 

[Toad]

time being infinite would make every possibility occur. but are u sure that the present occurring again in the exact same way is actually a possibility?

If time is infinite then that means that our reality, our universe, and this earth has formed an unfathomable amount of times in the exact same way and you and I have been born into the same life and made the same choices over and over and over again. There is no choice. It's all an illusion. Our lives are all subject to the flip of the coin, the roll of the die

 

[Deleted member 48352]

From our perspective we perceive time linearly, forward. But when we imagine it from another dimension it's actually a circle. Given that time is infinite, the probability of the same thing happening over and over again is 100%. Which means that we already had this conversation many times

id say i agree with u

but i have to think about it

i believe the past can be revisited but at that point it will be altered

 

[kyphoscoliosis]

You are always in the present, which you have a modicum of control over, but past events shape your present experience

 

[The Homelander]

ts hurts my brain bud

 

[Deleted member 48352]

If time is infinite then that means that our reality, our universe, and this earth has formed an unfathomable amount of times in the exact same way and you and I have been born into the same life and made the same choices over and over and over again. There is no choice. It's all an illusion. Our lives are all subject to the flip of the coin, the roll of the die

"there is no choice" is a retarded notion. common sense tells one there is choice. no model can subtract that, it should build on the foundation of the intuitively known existence of choice.

the amount of implications of "there is no choice" is absurd. generally its good to look at how people behave to assess their beliefs. u nor anyone else i have observed who says "there is no choice" behaves as if they believe they have no choice.

also are u implying that randomness exists? id say i agree but its an intriguing topic

 

[Toad]

id say i agree with u

but i have to think about it

i believe the past can be revisited but at that point it will be altered

We're in the past now, but also in the future. The end is the beginning and the beginning is the end

 

[Deleted member 48352]

ts hurts my brain bud

use chatgpt to explain more clearly then ur brain will feel good

 

[Wexilarious]

time doesn't exist

 

[Deleted member 48352]

We're in the past now, but also in the future. The end is the beginning and the beginning is the end

id have to disagree. our consciousness is only in the present. the past and Future exist but are not energized, at least by our consciousness

the circular idea of time i think is relatively logical. things repeat, things orbit other things. but saying that isnt really clearing anything up.

 

[Deleted member 60565]

If you believe that the Present can be determined from the Past, but that you can control the Present, then that requires that u can control the Past

so either u believe u have no freewill or ur retarded

if u believe u have no freewill then idc what u say as u have no freewill arguing about freewill which is literally pointless nonsense

How about I nut on your chest faggot

 

[Toad]

"there is no choice" is a retarded notion. common sense tells one there is choice. no model can subtract that, it should build on the foundation of the intuitively known existence of choice.

the amount of implications of "there is no choice" is absurd. generally its good to look at how people behave to assess their beliefs. u nor anyone else i have observed who says "there is no choice" behaves as if they believe they have no choice.

also are u implying that randomness exists? id say i agree but its an intriguing topic

Randomness is the true state of all matter. Everything that can happen will happen, that means that this life is just one line of many possibilities that must play out in only one way. However, all lines lead to the same destination, and we all know what that is

 

[Deleted member 48352]

time doesn't exist

id say i agree, altho that statement is not very descriptive of what does or does not exist specifically. time is emergent from change, which is caused by energy. theres a lot of misconceptions about how people treat time

 

[Deleted member 48352]

How about I nut on your chest faggot

ur the faggot and yes please do waste ur cum like a dumb goy while i nofap

 

[Toad]

id say i agree, altho that statement is not very descriptive of what does or does not exist specifically. time is emergent from change, which is caused by energy. theres a lot of misconceptions about how people treat time

Time is simply distance divided by speed. In other words, movement or entropy. When things move then time is passing

 

[Deleted member 48352]

Randomness is the true state of all matter. Everything that can happen will happen, that means that this life is just one line of many possibilities that must play out in only one way. However, all lines lead to the same destination, and we all know what that is

"anything that can happen will happen"

ill have to think about this. it doesnt make sense except in a very vague way

 

[Wexilarious]

Time is simply distance divided by speed. In other words, movement or entropy. When things move then time is passing

This is a scam created from the theory that the earth is spherical and flies in space (like other planets), when in reality it is static and flat

 

[Deleted member 48352]

Time is simply distance divided by speed. In other words, movement or entropy. When things move then time is passing

yes exactly. and things are always moving somewhere so time always exists

but saying time is distance divided by speed is circular reasoning, since speed is distance divided by time

 

[Deleted member 48352]

This is a scam created from the theory that the earth is spherical and flies in space (like other planets), when in reality it is static and flat

if it is static and flat, what is the explaination for gravity?

 

[Wexilarious]

if it is static and flat, what is the explaination for gravity?

The difference in density of objects

 

[Deleted member 48352]

The difference in density of objects

but how is directionality determined?

 

[Deleted member 48352]

The difference in density of objects

if earth is flat, u dont think that the earth is accelerating upward to explain gravity?

 

[Wexilarious]

but how is directionality determined?

if earth is flat, u dont think that the earth is accelerating upward to explain gravity?

Always down

I don't know the answer to the second question, although one can make an interesting conclusion that if it worked like that, then dust and everything else would not be able to fly freely in the air

 

[Deleted member 48352]

Always down

i see u have a philosophy based on personal perspective?

I don't know the answer to the second question, although one can make an interesting conclusion that if it worked like that, then dust and everything else would not be able to fly freely in the air

due to the density and weight of the dust, it could. its suspended in air.

 

[Wexilarious]

i see u have a philosophy based on personal perspective?

due to the density and weight of the dust, it could. its suspended in air.

I'm only interested in what describes this world more truthfully, so yeah

I can't say for sure, but the density of objects is the only thing that realistically describes how physics works, if it were possible to approach the dome of the earth and get into other similar earths, it would be possible to learn more about this place