The looks hierarchy is wery real, but it's much more rough than blackpillers think

[Deleted member 16204]

Blackpill communities usually use the 1-10 scale and the 2-8 psl scale when categorizing people's attractiveness, but in my opinion there should also be a simplified 1-3 IRL SMV scale, and it should be used in categorization more often. As in real life, there are roughly 3 kinds of men; goodlooking, average and ugly. Goodlooking are the alphas, the genetically gifted whom females really feel strong and genuine sexual attraction to. Average are the betas and the providers, whom women form more of a contractual, long term relationships with. And the ugly are the genetic trash and the incels, who are basically meant to be removed from the gene pool by the natural selection, as brutal and sad as it is.

Do you think that any female in real life will ever think "Jonathan has a three millimetres shorter ramus and a little bit less chin projection and thinner lips than his younger brother Kevin, therefore he is only an 7.75/10 high tier chadlite instead of an 8/10 solid chad. I cannot be attracted to him as he is being mogged so hard, I'll choose Kevin instead."
No, in reality I don't think that this kind of separation happens even subconsciously. She just sees two goodlooking guys and enjoys their company, gives them validation and feels sexual attraction towards them basically the equal amount.
Or "St. Blackopscel has noticeably better forward growth and less facial deformities and more symmetry than St. Birdcel, therefore I find him less repulsive." You get my point.

You can pretty easily test this "theory" yourself by simply observing men's personalities and their attitude and views on women and dating, which is based on their looks level. I don't really think that there are 10 different steps there. Just 3 different "personality types"; the alpha (chad), the beta (normie) and the incel.

When it comes to "borderline cases" such as high tier normies, I don't think that they are their own separate classes, but rather people who can experience both worlds depending the situation. For example a HTN can sometimes be the goodlooking alpha if he travels to a different country or happens to be in an environment where there are no better looking guys available for women, but most of the time he is just average.
But when they are average, their life and experience doesn't significantly differ from other average guys.

 

[6.5PSL]

Blackpill communities usually use the 1-10 scale and the 2-8 psl scale when categorizing people's attractiveness, but in my opinion there should also be a simplified 1-3 IRL SMV scale, and it should be used in categorization more often. As in real life, there are roughly 3 kinds of men; goodlooking, average and ugly. Goodlooking are the alphas, the genetically gifted whom females really feel strong and genuine sexual attraction to. Average are the betas and the providers, whom women form more of a contractual, long term relationships with. And the ugly are the genetic trash and the incels, who are basically meant to be removed from the gene pool by the natural selection, as brutal and sad as it is.

Do you think that any female in real life will ever think "Jonathan has a three millimetres shorter ramus and a little bit less chin projection and thinner lips than his younger brother Kevin, therefore he is only a 7.75/10 high tier chadlite instead of an 8/10 solid chad. I cannot be attracted to him as he is being mogged so hard, I'll choose Kevin instead."
No, in reality I don't think that this kind of separation happens even subconsciously. She just sees two goodlooking guys and enjoys their company, gives them validation and feels sexual attraction towards them basically the equal amount.
Or "St. Blackopscel has noticeably better forward growth and less facial deformities and more symmetry than St. Birdcel, therefore I find him less repulsive." You get my point.

You can pretty easily test this "theory" yourself by simply observing men's personalities and their attitude and views on women and dating, which is based on their looks level. I don't really think that there are 10 different steps there. Just 3 different "personality types"; the alpha (chad), the beta (normie) and the incel.

When it comes to "borderline cases" such as high tier normies, I don't think that they are their own separate classes, but rather people who can experience both worlds depending the situation. For example a HTN can sometimes be the goodlooking alpha if he travels to a different country or happens to be in an environment where there are no better looking guys available for women, but most of the time he is just average.
But whe they are average, their life and experience doesn't significantly differ from other average guys.

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I kind of agree what you're saying though I believe in a 5 rating system:
1 - Well below average (incel tear, low chance of ever finding someone attracted to you)
2 - Below average (you need to compensate in some way. You're not deformed or anything but you're not even average. People would probably call you ugly behind your back.
3 - Average. Vast majority of people fall here. Nothing special, just average person. If you're NT you should be completely fine.
4 - Above average. Clearly have some good features and a good amount of people find you attractive.
5 - Well above average. Almost universal appeal. No issues in the dating making if you're not ND.

 

[Ethniframementalcel]

ND?

 

[Vermilioncore]

 

[whiteissuperior]

I kind of agree what you're saying though I believe in a 5 rating system:
1 - Well below average (incel tear, low chance of ever finding someone attracted to you)
2 - Below average (you need to compensate in some way. You're not deformed or anything but you're not even average. People would probably call you ugly behind your back.
3 - Average. Vast majority of people fall here. Nothing special, just average person. If you're NT you should be completely fine.
4 - Above average. Clearly have some good features and a good amount of people find you attractive.
5 - Well above average. Almost universal appeal. No issues in the dating making if you're not ND.

i agree with this more

im trying to go from a 2 to a 4 by this scale

 

[Beetlejuice]

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[LooksDeficiency]

There's only visible and invisible

 

[Deleted member 16204]

There's only visible and invisible

And repulsive

 

[LooksDeficiency]

And repulsive
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There's nothing there?

 

[Deleted member 15099]

Agreed, htn and chadlite is cope. If your gl, your chad.

 

[Deleted member 16204]

I kind of agree what you're saying though I believe in a 5 rating system:
1 - Well below average (incel tear, low chance of ever finding someone attracted to you)
2 - Below average (you need to compensate in some way. You're not deformed or anything but you're not even average. People would probably call you ugly behind your back.
3 - Average. Vast majority of people fall here. Nothing special, just average person. If you're NT you should be completely fine.
4 - Above average. Clearly have some good features and a good amount of people find you attractive.
5 - Well above average. Almost universal appeal. No issues in the dating making if you're not ND.

I will also add that when you observe men's personalities and behaviour you should focus on older men and adults, and not teenagers.
Young normies sometimes act like slayers as they haven't learnt their place yet. But when it comes to boomers or older adult men there are wery big differences in the ways they talk amd think about women to younger guys and what kind of dating advise they give. And there those 3 different classes are wery clearly observable.

 

[6.5PSL]

I will also add that when you observe men's personalities and behaviour you should focus on older men and adults, and not teenagers.
Young normies sometimes act like slayers as they haven't learnt their place yet. But when it comes to boomers or older adult men there are wery big differences in the ways they talk about women to younger guys and what kind of daring advise they give. And there those 3 different classes are wery clearly observable.

You can be a Chad/Chadlite and not have much experience with women depending on your personality type. This forum tends to think if you're Chad you'll just have everything in the world but some people in that range are introverted and don't really try and get everything they can. From my observations, HTN/MTNs more commonly have high body counts.

 

[MostGLSlayer]

True Irl women’s attention and reaction towards you is your only true rating, thats it.
All this ‘rating’ bs is cope especially rating from random men on the internet who’s standards are gonna be bias towards his own perception of what an attractive guy is. Which is inaccurate and dumb af.

 

[Deleted member 12612]

Blackpill communities usually use the 1-10 scale and the 2-8 psl scale when categorizing people's attractiveness, but in my opinion there should also be a simplified 1-3 IRL SMV scale, and it should be used in categorization more often. As in real life, there are roughly 3 kinds of men; goodlooking, average and ugly. Goodlooking are the alphas, the genetically gifted whom females really feel strong and genuine sexual attraction to. Average are the betas and the providers, whom women form more of a contractual, long term relationships with. And the ugly are the genetic trash and the incels, who are basically meant to be removed from the gene pool by the natural selection, as brutal and sad as it is.

Do you think that any female in real life will ever think "Jonathan has a three millimetres shorter ramus and a little bit less chin projection and thinner lips than his younger brother Kevin, therefore he is only an 7.75/10 high tier chadlite instead of an 8/10 solid chad. I cannot be attracted to him as he is being mogged so hard, I'll choose Kevin instead."
No, in reality I don't think that this kind of separation happens even subconsciously. She just sees two goodlooking guys and enjoys their company, gives them validation and feels sexual attraction towards them basically the equal amount.
Or "St. Blackopscel has noticeably better forward growth and less facial deformities and more symmetry than St. Birdcel, therefore I find him less repulsive." You get my point.

You can pretty easily test this "theory" yourself by simply observing men's personalities and their attitude and views on women and dating, which is based on their looks level. I don't really think that there are 10 different steps there. Just 3 different "personality types"; the alpha (chad), the beta (normie) and the incel.

When it comes to "borderline cases" such as high tier normies, I don't think that they are their own separate classes, but rather people who can experience both worlds depending the situation. For example a HTN can sometimes be the goodlooking alpha if he travels to a different country or happens to be in an environment where there are no better looking guys available for women, but most of the time he is just average.
But when they are average, their life and experience doesn't significantly differ from other average guys.

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Good thread

 

[Edgar]

Powerful image

 

[thereallegend]

there are roughly 3 kinds of men

Incels, Normies, and "Chads".

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

Incels, Normies, and "Chads".

incels - men who are doomed to never experience mutual physical attraction with a woman
Normies - men who a small number of women are physcially attracted to, if they want success with girls they have to put a lot of effort in or stand out from the crowd in some way, moneymaxxing, gymcelling etc. Usuallt their better off just trying to find an ltr with their loksmatch because while they may have some success their effort to rewards ratio is very bad.
Chads- Men who a large number of females are phsycially attracted to, these men tend to be single and slay during their prime before settling down in late 20s- early 30s

 

[Enfant terrible]

True Irl women’s attention and reaction towards you is your only true rating, thats it.
All this ‘rating’ bs is cope especially rating from random men on the internet who’s standards are gonna be bias towards his own perception of what an attractive guy is. Which is inaccurate and dumb af.

 

[aBetterMii]

Imagine thinking a htn and chad should be grouped together shit tier cope

 

[ezio6]

Blackpill communities usually use the 1-10 scale and the 2-8 psl scale when categorizing people's attractiveness, but in my opinion there should also be a simplified 1-3 IRL SMV scale, and it should be used in categorization more often. As in real life, there are roughly 3 kinds of men; goodlooking, average and ugly. Goodlooking are the alphas, the genetically gifted whom females really feel strong and genuine sexual attraction to. Average are the betas and the providers, whom women form more of a contractual, long term relationships with. And the ugly are the genetic trash and the incels, who are basically meant to be removed from the gene pool by the natural selection, as brutal and sad as it is.

Do you think that any female in real life will ever think "Jonathan has a three millimetres shorter ramus and a little bit less chin projection and thinner lips than his younger brother Kevin, therefore he is only an 7.75/10 high tier chadlite instead of an 8/10 solid chad. I cannot be attracted to him as he is being mogged so hard, I'll choose Kevin instead."
No, in reality I don't think that this kind of separation happens even subconsciously. She just sees two goodlooking guys and enjoys their company, gives them validation and feels sexual attraction towards them basically the equal amount.
Or "St. Blackopscel has noticeably better forward growth and less facial deformities and more symmetry than St. Birdcel, therefore I find him less repulsive." You get my point.

You can pretty easily test this "theory" yourself by simply observing men's personalities and their attitude and views on women and dating, which is based on their looks level. I don't really think that there are 10 different steps there. Just 3 different "personality types"; the alpha (chad), the beta (normie) and the incel.

When it comes to "borderline cases" such as high tier normies, I don't think that they are their own separate classes, but rather people who can experience both worlds depending the situation. For example a HTN can sometimes be the goodlooking alpha if he travels to a different country or happens to be in an environment where there are no better looking guys available for women, but most of the time he is just average.
But when they are average, their life and experience doesn't significantly differ from other average guys.

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highest iq of the day

 

[Deleted member 16204]

Imagine thinking a htn and chad should be grouped together shit tier cope

Who said they should be grouped together? HTN:s are average men who may experience being goodlooking alpha in certain conditions. Chadlites are under 15th percentile so they belong to the goodlooking group. Maybe they can experience averageness in rare situations if they live in Isla Vista California or something like that.

 

[SeiGun]

brutal last picture,
imagine being the lonely guy and saw yourself used as an blackpill example, absolutely brutal

 

[Clark69]

three men in the same friend group, with each one having a very different existence

the right probably only gets his dick wet in the shower, while chad in the middle wakes up every morning next to a girl after a night of sex

 

[AscendingHero]

three men in the same friend group, with each one having a very different existence

the right probably only gets his dick wet in the shower, while chad in the middle wakes up every morning next to a girl after a night of sex

Incredibly brutal way for putting it but yea basically this.

The unbeatable pure at it again