The MOST Underrated Bodybuilding Compound - An Introduction to Insulin

[Sadist]

An Introduction to Insulin
By Sadist

Spoiler: DISCLAIMERS

DISCLAIMER 1:
By no means is this medical advice. Everyone is different and some people may respond to this differently to others. Consult with a medical professional for the safest ways to make use of the info you’re about to find out.

DISCLAIMER 2:
This thread is directed at advanced AAS users only. I recommend running at least 2-3 cycles before implementing Insulin into your stack.

Thread Song:


​

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Preface:


For some reason, I have barely seen anybody talk about pairing Insulin with hGH and AAS on this forum - and it has always really surprised me, as its benefits are very significant.

I have always had everything locked in: training, recovery, macros, gear, etc., yet have always struggled with gaining muscle. That is, until I figured out that my metabolism is batshit insane, and the issue was simply due to the way my body utilizes nutrients. Biologically, the human body does not require to hold onto a lot of muscle mass to function properly, instead focusing on utilizing the nutrients it receives to survive and ensure that all the vital parts are nourished. Even after that happens to be the case, the body is still quite reluctant to direct nutrients towards muscle recovery, directing them to other miscellaneous parts, besides just muscles. This is exactly why you need to eat like a fucking dog in order to get any significant gains, unless you’re myostatin deficient.

The three main pathways of anabolism are Testosterone, IGF-1 (hGH) and Insulin. Each one of them is responsible for a different way, in which myogenesis is assisted, through promoting protein synthesis via their own mechanisms. Whilst the former two are well-known, the latter one seems otherwise - and in this guide, I will break down this pathway, and how to properly take advantage of it.

​

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Table of Contents:


I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin

III
Dosing, Protocol & Misc Info

IV
Conclusion


Without further ado, let’s get you proper fucking jacked.




​

---

I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?



Insulin is widely regarded as the most anabolic compound you can take. And that is for a good reason. Insulin works by interacting with GLUT4 receptors, which greatly ascends nutrient partitioning, specifically amino acids and glucose, sending a very good chunk of them straight into muscle cells. By doing this, it essentially helps you overcome the issues described in the preface, by basically telling your body to stop LDARing - and use the nutrients that you stuff your mug with to ascend and thrive, instead of forcing you to live in misery as a sad skinny chud. Now this, of course, does not mean that your body will start neglecting all your vitals and solely focus on building muscle all of a sudden - not at all. That is, of course, if you ensure correct (thus obviously, sufficient) nutrient intake. Insulin also directly synergizes with hGH and Testosterone pretty fucking well.

​

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II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin:



Just like a lot of other compounds, Insulin use is heavily fear-mongered. A lot of high inhib faggots will never cease to yell shit like “don’t use slin, you can easily die from your very first injection!”. Bullshit. Similarly to compounds like DNP, as long as you are not a retard, take Insulin at proper doses, and do all other required things (which are pretty fucking effortless, mind you) - you will be completely fine. Below, I will list all most common potential side effects that can occur from Insulin usage, although again, do consider that you may pretty much only get them if your IQ is sub-80:



Hypoglycemia - Insulin, quite obviously, lowers blood sugar. This is actually the shit that can potentially kill you if you take it carelessly;

Insulin resistance - prolonged exogenous Insulin usage will make your body tolerant to it, and therefore may spike your baseline glucose levels slightly upon discontinuation. However, there is a very easy fix for that, that I will touch on shortly;

Hypokalemia - intake enough electrolytes;

Injection site reactions - just pin properly.



Now that we have those covered, I will tell you exactly how to avoid each and every single one of them through using Insulin properly.

​

---

III
Insulin Dosing, Protocol & Misc. Info:

Rapid-Acting Insulin is the superior option. And it is so simply due to the fact that you have way more control over it, as compared to its Long-Acting counterpart. The half-life of the former is mere 2-5 hours, whilst the latter varies anywhere from 25 to 45 hours. This makes Rapid very convenient to use, as we will be administering it in a peri-workout fashion.

There is no need to dose Insulin too high, as the benefit it will bring will be pretty marginal compared to the risks and pain in the ass it can create. With that said, I personally know a 15 year-old low-inhib guy, who used to take 60 or 70 units of NovoRapid per day (with proof) and was completely fine, although again, this is completely anecdotal, and he is still an idiot for doing that. It simply shows that Insulin does not equate to “muh instant death”.

Before we go any further, it is CRUCIAL you buy a Blood Glucose Monitor and optimally, use it three times a day. The generally agreed-upon optimal baseline Glucose Levels are 3.9-5.4mmol/L fasted and below 7.8mmol/L unfasted.

We will be dosing Rapid-Acting Insulin at 5-15IU per day. You can go up to 20IU, but I simply think there is no need.

As mentioned above, it is best to take Insulin (but also hGH) is peri-workout, to maximize its efficiency. The way to do it is to simply split the dose in half, and take one half pre, and the other one post workout. I heavily suggest pairing Insulin with hGH at the very least, but obviously also ideally with AAS.

Carb intake is VERY important to ensure you have enough nutrients to direct to both muscles AND vitals, so that you don’t go hypo. The general rule of thumb is 1IU Insulin per 10g Carbs, but I personally prefer to have a bit more Carbs than that; better safe than sorry, you know? Not only that, but it’s best to also have an appropriate Carb intake throughout your workout, as lifting depletes your glycogen stores pretty fucking hard. My personal recommendation is a carbohydrate blend that comes in powder form, as it is very easy to prepare and consume Pre and Mid-Workout. For Post-Workout Carbs, I recommend getting them from High GI food (The GI Index being a system, which ranks different foods from 1 to 100, depending on the speed, at which they raise Glucose levels).

I also recommend taking around 25g Protein Pre-Workout (and obviously a sufficient amount Post, but that’s water). Appropriate Post-Workout Electrolyte intake is also recommended to further avoid feeling like shit, which I recommend getting from both food AND a serving of powdered electrolytes/supplements.

Below, I will demonstrate both the sequence, in which you should take your compounds, and give my example.



The sequence should go as follows:


Pre-Workout:
Insulin > hGH > Liquid Carbs + Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Liquid Carbs;


Post-workout:
Insulin > hGH > High GI Food Carbs + Food Protein + Food AND Powdered Electrolytes.



My Example
(again, do keep in mind that my carb intake is slightly higher than the bare minimum):


Total Per Day - 10IU NovoRapid, 4IU hGh, 300g Carbs (peri-workout only) + Electrolytes

with the sequence being:


Pre-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > 100g Liquid Carbs + 25g Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Carbs (100g total);


Post-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > (at least) 100g High GI Food Carbs + 50g Food Protein + 1 serving of Electrolyte Blend ON TOP of Electrolytes I get from food.



Let me reiterate: as long as you ingest enough carbs & electrolytes at adequate Insulin doses, you should be completely fine.

Regarding Insulin resistance, Insulin should only be used throughout your blasts (16 weeks being the ideal timeframe). After that (relatively short) period, your body should quite effortlessly return to baseline resistance, even if you don’t do anything about it. However, it’s best that you keep lifting regularly after the blast ends, AND shred as quickly as possible (as higher bodyfat has been shown to contribute to Insulin Resistance over and over again).

Last thing to note (although should be fucking obvious) is to double-check the amount of units per click on YOUR pen.

​

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IV
Conclusion:

Insulin will give you pretty fucking solid gains if paired with AAS and hGH. It is piss easy to use, is not expensive, and it’s pretty unlikely to buy some boof shit, since it’s quite easy to source it pretty much anywhere.

To summarize: Stay consistent, consume appropriate nutrients (especially Carbs), monitor Blood Glucose frequently, don’t OD, train even post-cycle, and ideally, shred as quickly as possible after said cycle (DNP & GLP-1 Agonists are your best friends for that).
And above all else - enjoy your slayer Sik Kunt lives.

​

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Tags: @Menas @Chad @Orka @AverageTevvezFan @SlayerJonas​

 

[SlayerJonas]

Good reminder to blast some insulin for the synergy with GH again.

Mogger thread.

 

[LeftistFeminist]

dnr

 

[L88]

bookmarked and will read

 

[pslturi]

MOGS HARD

 

[dragomog]

dnr this shit not worth it

 

[Leo]

dnr this shit not worth it

Damn it bro, dragomog told me its bad so now i cant use it

 

[Psocho]

this thread should get more attention than it already has, people rather spend their time on offtopic.

good job OP, that’s a thread I was looking for.

 

[rares54]

This mf always got the best threads

 

[Kuros]

dnr, but looks good though just skimmed through it
KEYWORD
on this forum
ON THE "STAGE" OF BODYBUILDING IT HAS TOO MUCH ATTENTION, LOL
27:50

https://www.youtube.com/@ThinkBIGBodybuilding

also this guy https://www.youtube.com/@Brandonharding made insulin big a few years ago and even greg made a video about it I think, ever since greg started making brainrot I stopped whatching him

 

[Menas]

View attachment 4719765

An Introduction to Insulin
By Sadist

Spoiler: DISCLAIMERS

DISCLAIMER 1:
By no means is this medical advice. Everyone is different and some people may respond to this differently to others. Consult with a medical professional for the safest ways to make use of the info you’re about to find out.

DISCLAIMER 2:
This thread is directed at advanced AAS users only. I recommend running at least 2-3 cycles before implementing Insulin into your stack.

Thread Song:


​

---

Preface:


For some reason, I have barely seen anybody talk about pairing Insulin with hGH and AAS on this forum - and it has always really surprised me, as its benefits are very significant.

I have always had everything locked in: training, recovery, macros, gear, etc., yet have always struggled with gaining muscle. That is, until I figured out that my metabolism is batshit insane, and the issue was simply due to the way my body utilizes nutrients. Biologically, the human body does not require to hold onto a lot of muscle mass to function properly, instead focusing on utilizing the nutrients it receives to survive and ensure that all the vital parts are nourished. Even after that happens to be the case, the body is still quite reluctant to direct nutrients towards muscle recovery, directing them to other miscellaneous parts, besides just muscles. This is exactly why you need to eat like a fucking dog in order to get any significant gains, unless you’re myostatin deficient.

The three main pathways of anabolism are Testosterone, IGF-1 (hGH) and Insulin. Each one of them is responsible for a different way, in which myogenesis is assisted, through promoting protein synthesis via their own mechanisms. Whilst the former two are well-known, the latter one seems otherwise - and in this guide, I will break down this pathway, and how to properly take advantage of it.

​

---

Table of Contents:


I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin

III
Dosing, Protocol & Misc Info

IV
Conclusion


Without further ado, let’s get you proper fucking jacked.

​

---

I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?



Insulin is widely regarded as the most anabolic compound you can take. And that is for a good reason. Insulin works by interacting with GLUT4 receptors, which greatly ascends nutrient partitioning, specifically amino acids and glucose, sending a very good chunk of them straight into muscle cells. By doing this, it essentially helps you overcome the issues described in the preface, by basically telling your body to stop LDARing - and use the nutrients that you stuff your mug with to ascend and thrive, instead of forcing you to live in misery as a sad skinny chud. Now this, of course, does not mean that your body will start neglecting all your vitals and solely focus on building muscle all of a sudden - not at all. That is, of course, if you ensure correct (thus obviously, sufficient) nutrient uptake.


View attachment 4719905

​

---

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin:



Just like a lot of other compounds, Insulin use is heavily fear-mongered. A lot of high inhib faggots will never cease to yell shit like “don’t use slin, you can easily die from your very first injection!”. Bullshit. Similarly to compounds like DNP, as long as you are not a retard, take Insulin at proper doses, and do all other required things (which are pretty fucking effortless, mind you) - you will be completely fine. Below, I will list all most common potential side effects that can occur from Insulin usage, although again, do consider that you may pretty much only get them if your IQ is sub-80:



Hypoglycemia - Insulin, quite obviously, lowers blood sugar. This is actually the shit that can kill you if you take it carelessly;

Insulin resistance - prolonged exogenous Insulin usage will make your body tolerant to it, and therefore may spike your baseline glucose levels slightly upon discontinuation. However, there is a very easy fix for that, that I will touch on shortly;

Hypokalemia - intake enough electrolytes;

Injection site reactions - just pin properly.



Now that we have those covered, I will tell you exactly how to avoid each and every single one of them through using Insulin properly.

​

---

III
Insulin Dosing, Protocol & Misc. Info:

Rapid-Acting Insulin is the superior option. And it is so simply due to the fact that you have way more control over it, as compared to its Long-Acting counterpart. The half-life of the former is mere 2-5 hours, whilst the latter varies anywhere from 25 to 45 hours. This makes Rapid very convenient to use, as we will be administering it in a peri-workout fashion.

There is no need to dose Insulin too high, as the benefit it will bring will be pretty marginal compared to the risks and pain in the ass it can create. With that said, I personally know a 15 year-old low-inhib guy, who used to take 60 or 70 units of NovoRapid per day (with proof) and was completely fine, although again, this is completely anecdotal, and he is still an idiot for doing that. It simply shows that Insulin does not equate to “muh instant death”.

Before we go any further, it is CRUCIAL you buy a Blood Glucose Monitor and optimally, use it three times a day. The generally agreed-upon optimal baseline Glucose Levels are 3.9-5.4mmol/L fasted and below 7.8mmol/L unfasted.

We will be dosing Rapid-Acting Insulin at 5-15IU per day. You can go up to 20IU, but I simply think there is no need.

As mentioned above, it is best to take Insulin (but also hGH) is peri-workout, to maximize its efficiency. The way to do it is to simply split the dose in half, and take one half pre, and the other one post workout. I heavily suggest pairing Insulin with hGH at the very least, but obviously also ideally with AAS.

Carb intake is VERY important to ensure you have enough nutrients to direct to both muscles AND vitals, so that you don’t go hypo. The general rule of thumb is 1IU Insulin per 10g Carbs, but I personally prefer to have a bit more Carbs than that; better safe than sorry, you know? Not only that, but it’s best to also have an appropriate Carb intake throughout your workout, as lifting depletes your glycogen stores pretty fucking hard. My personal recommendation is a carbohydrate blend that comes in powder form, as it is very easy to prepare and consume Pre and Mid-Workout. For Post-Workout Carbs, I recommend getting them from High GI food (The GI Index being a system, which ranks different foods from 1 to 100, depending on the speed, at which they raise Glucose levels).

View attachment 4719908

I also recommend taking around 25g Protein Pre-Workout (and obviously a sufficient amount Post, but that’s water). Appropriate Post-Workout Electrolyte intake is also recommended to further avoid feeling like shit, which I recommend getting from both food AND a serving of powdered electrolytes/supplements.

Below, I will demonstrate both the sequence, in which you should take your compounds, and give my example.



The sequence should go as follows:


Pre-Workout:
Insulin > hGH > Liquid Carbs + Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Liquid Carbs;


Post-workout:
Insulin > hGH > High GI Food Carbs + Food Protein + Food AND Powdered Electrolytes.



My Example
(again, do keep in mind that my carb intake is slightly higher than the bare minimum):


Total Per Day - 10IU NovoRapid, 4IU hGh, 300g Carbs (peri-workout only) + Electrolytes

with the sequence being:


Pre-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > 100g Liquid Carbs + 25g Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Carbs (100g total);


Post-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > (at least) 100g High GI Food Carbs + 50g Food Protein + 1 serving of Electrolyte Blend ON TOP of Electrolytes I get from food.



Let me reiterate: as long as you ingest enough carbs & electrolytes at adequate Insulin doses, you should be completely fine.

Regarding Insulin resistance, Insulin should only be used throughout your blasts (16 weeks being the ideal timeframe). After that (relatively short) period, your body should quite effortlessly return to baseline resistance, even if you don’t do anything about it. However, it’s best that you keep lifting regularly after the blast ends, AND shred as quickly as possible (as higher bodyfat has been shown to contribute to Insulin Resistance over and over again).

Last thing to note (although should be fucking obvious) is to double-check the amount of units per click on YOUR pen.

​

---

IV
Conclusion:

Insulin will give you pretty fucking solid gains if paired with AAS and hGH. It is piss easy to use, is not expensive, and it’s pretty unlikely to buy some boof shit, since it’s quite easy to source it pretty much anywhere.

To summarize: Stay consistent, consume appropriate nutrients (especially Carbs), monitor Blood Glucose frequently, don’t OD, train even post-cycle, and ideally, shred as quickly as possible after said cycle (DNP & GLP-1 Agonists are your best friends for that).
And above all else - enjoy your slayer Sik Kunt lives.

​

---

Tags: @Menas @Chad @Orka @AverageTevvezFan @SlayerJonas​

I lowkey thought about this when i first started BB and learned about insulin resistance etc

 

[gymcelld]

what carbs are bringing midway through you workout?

I’m guessing any type of sweets would work

 

[Sadist]

what carbs are bringing midway through you workout?

I’m guessing any type of sweets would work

liquid carb blend

 

[gymcelld]

liquid carb blend

Intra workout im guessing?

 

[susisesi]

mirin thread bookmarked

 

[Aromasin]

Sounds really interesting, is there any way to know how much one will benefit from taking insulin?

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

Amazing thread, i just mentioned the other day how needed a thread like this is, will help lots of people im sure

 

[susisesi]

A few questions:

1) What do you think of just insulin and hgh with no test?

2) My insulin resistance is still bad even tho I am on 12mg Reta, should I avoid insulin altogether?

3) why not during cutting phases?

4)

However, there is a very easy fix for that, that I will touch on shortly;

Did you mention this? I read the whole thread but maybe I didn’t understand.

5) I am on 12IU HGH, should I do like 2 pre 2 post and 8 before sleeping or 6 before and 6 after better?

 

[Sadist]

Sounds really interesting, is there any way to know how much one will benefit from taking insulin?

a lot is all i can say. browse the web to see transformations.

A few questions:

1) What do you think of just insulin and hgh with no test?

also works but no reason to not run test as well

2) My insulin resistance is still bad even tho I am on 12mg Reta, should I avoid insulin altogether?

good question, potentially no. if you REALLY wanna try it out, start with low doses.

3) why not during cutting phases?

because you aren’t really trying to gain muscle during the cut, and insulin shouldn’t be used for a very long period of time

4)

Did you mention this? I read the whole thread but maybe I didn’t understand.

Regarding Insulin resistance, Insulin should only be used throughout your blasts (16 weeks being the ideal timeframe). After that (relatively short) period, your body should quite effortlessly return to baseline resistance, even if you don’t do anything about it. However, it’s best that you keep lifting regularly after the blast ends, AND shred as quickly as possible (as higher bodyfat has been shown to contribute to Insulin Resistance over and over again).

5) I am on 12IU HGH, should I do like 2 pre 2 post and 8 before sleeping or 6 before and 6 after better?

depends on what you’re using the gh for. if it’s for height - then before sleep.

 

[combatingNorwooding]

View attachment 4719765

An Introduction to Insulin
By Sadist

Spoiler: DISCLAIMERS

DISCLAIMER 1:
By no means is this medical advice. Everyone is different and some people may respond to this differently to others. Consult with a medical professional for the safest ways to make use of the info you’re about to find out.

DISCLAIMER 2:
This thread is directed at advanced AAS users only. I recommend running at least 2-3 cycles before implementing Insulin into your stack.

Thread Song:


​

---

Preface:


For some reason, I have barely seen anybody talk about pairing Insulin with hGH and AAS on this forum - and it has always really surprised me, as its benefits are very significant.

I have always had everything locked in: training, recovery, macros, gear, etc., yet have always struggled with gaining muscle. That is, until I figured out that my metabolism is batshit insane, and the issue was simply due to the way my body utilizes nutrients. Biologically, the human body does not require to hold onto a lot of muscle mass to function properly, instead focusing on utilizing the nutrients it receives to survive and ensure that all the vital parts are nourished. Even after that happens to be the case, the body is still quite reluctant to direct nutrients towards muscle recovery, directing them to other miscellaneous parts, besides just muscles. This is exactly why you need to eat like a fucking dog in order to get any significant gains, unless you’re myostatin deficient.

The three main pathways of anabolism are Testosterone, IGF-1 (hGH) and Insulin. Each one of them is responsible for a different way, in which myogenesis is assisted, through promoting protein synthesis via their own mechanisms. Whilst the former two are well-known, the latter one seems otherwise - and in this guide, I will break down this pathway, and how to properly take advantage of it.

​

---

Table of Contents:


I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin

III
Dosing, Protocol & Misc Info

IV
Conclusion


Without further ado, let’s get you proper fucking jacked.




​

---

I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?



Insulin is widely regarded as the most anabolic compound you can take. And that is for a good reason. Insulin works by interacting with GLUT4 receptors, which greatly ascends nutrient partitioning, specifically amino acids and glucose, sending a very good chunk of them straight into muscle cells. By doing this, it essentially helps you overcome the issues described in the preface, by basically telling your body to stop LDARing - and use the nutrients that you stuff your mug with to ascend and thrive, instead of forcing you to live in misery as a sad skinny chud. Now this, of course, does not mean that your body will start neglecting all your vitals and solely focus on building muscle all of a sudden - not at all. That is, of course, if you ensure correct (thus obviously, sufficient) nutrient uptake. Insulin also synergizes with hGH pretty fucking well.


View attachment 4719905

​

---

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin:



Just like a lot of other compounds, Insulin use is heavily fear-mongered. A lot of high inhib faggots will never cease to yell shit like “don’t use slin, you can easily die from your very first injection!”. Bullshit. Similarly to compounds like DNP, as long as you are not a retard, take Insulin at proper doses, and do all other required things (which are pretty fucking effortless, mind you) - you will be completely fine. Below, I will list all most common potential side effects that can occur from Insulin usage, although again, do consider that you may pretty much only get them if your IQ is sub-80:



Hypoglycemia - Insulin, quite obviously, lowers blood sugar. This is actually the shit that can kill you if you take it carelessly;

Insulin resistance - prolonged exogenous Insulin usage will make your body tolerant to it, and therefore may spike your baseline glucose levels slightly upon discontinuation. However, there is a very easy fix for that, that I will touch on shortly;

Hypokalemia - intake enough electrolytes;

Injection site reactions - just pin properly.



Now that we have those covered, I will tell you exactly how to avoid each and every single one of them through using Insulin properly.

​

---

III
Insulin Dosing, Protocol & Misc. Info:

Rapid-Acting Insulin is the superior option. And it is so simply due to the fact that you have way more control over it, as compared to its Long-Acting counterpart. The half-life of the former is mere 2-5 hours, whilst the latter varies anywhere from 25 to 45 hours. This makes Rapid very convenient to use, as we will be administering it in a peri-workout fashion.

There is no need to dose Insulin too high, as the benefit it will bring will be pretty marginal compared to the risks and pain in the ass it can create. With that said, I personally know a 15 year-old low-inhib guy, who used to take 60 or 70 units of NovoRapid per day (with proof) and was completely fine, although again, this is completely anecdotal, and he is still an idiot for doing that. It simply shows that Insulin does not equate to “muh instant death”.

Before we go any further, it is CRUCIAL you buy a Blood Glucose Monitor and optimally, use it three times a day. The generally agreed-upon optimal baseline Glucose Levels are 3.9-5.4mmol/L fasted and below 7.8mmol/L unfasted.

We will be dosing Rapid-Acting Insulin at 5-15IU per day. You can go up to 20IU, but I simply think there is no need.

As mentioned above, it is best to take Insulin (but also hGH) is peri-workout, to maximize its efficiency. The way to do it is to simply split the dose in half, and take one half pre, and the other one post workout. I heavily suggest pairing Insulin with hGH at the very least, but obviously also ideally with AAS.

Carb intake is VERY important to ensure you have enough nutrients to direct to both muscles AND vitals, so that you don’t go hypo. The general rule of thumb is 1IU Insulin per 10g Carbs, but I personally prefer to have a bit more Carbs than that; better safe than sorry, you know? Not only that, but it’s best to also have an appropriate Carb intake throughout your workout, as lifting depletes your glycogen stores pretty fucking hard. My personal recommendation is a carbohydrate blend that comes in powder form, as it is very easy to prepare and consume Pre and Mid-Workout. For Post-Workout Carbs, I recommend getting them from High GI food (The GI Index being a system, which ranks different foods from 1 to 100, depending on the speed, at which they raise Glucose levels).

View attachment 4719908

I also recommend taking around 25g Protein Pre-Workout (and obviously a sufficient amount Post, but that’s water). Appropriate Post-Workout Electrolyte intake is also recommended to further avoid feeling like shit, which I recommend getting from both food AND a serving of powdered electrolytes/supplements.

Below, I will demonstrate both the sequence, in which you should take your compounds, and give my example.



The sequence should go as follows:


Pre-Workout:
Insulin > hGH > Liquid Carbs + Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Liquid Carbs;


Post-workout:
Insulin > hGH > High GI Food Carbs + Food Protein + Food AND Powdered Electrolytes.



My Example
(again, do keep in mind that my carb intake is slightly higher than the bare minimum):


Total Per Day - 10IU NovoRapid, 4IU hGh, 300g Carbs (peri-workout only) + Electrolytes

with the sequence being:


Pre-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > 100g Liquid Carbs + 25g Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Carbs (100g total);


Post-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > (at least) 100g High GI Food Carbs + 50g Food Protein + 1 serving of Electrolyte Blend ON TOP of Electrolytes I get from food.



Let me reiterate: as long as you ingest enough carbs & electrolytes at adequate Insulin doses, you should be completely fine.

Regarding Insulin resistance, Insulin should only be used throughout your blasts (16 weeks being the ideal timeframe). After that (relatively short) period, your body should quite effortlessly return to baseline resistance, even if you don’t do anything about it. However, it’s best that you keep lifting regularly after the blast ends, AND shred as quickly as possible (as higher bodyfat has been shown to contribute to Insulin Resistance over and over again).

Last thing to note (although should be fucking obvious) is to double-check the amount of units per click on YOUR pen.

​

---

IV
Conclusion:

Insulin will give you pretty fucking solid gains if paired with AAS and hGH. It is piss easy to use, is not expensive, and it’s pretty unlikely to buy some boof shit, since it’s quite easy to source it pretty much anywhere.

To summarize: Stay consistent, consume appropriate nutrients (especially Carbs), monitor Blood Glucose frequently, don’t OD, train even post-cycle, and ideally, shred as quickly as possible after said cycle (DNP & GLP-1 Agonists are your best friends for that).
And above all else - enjoy your slayer Sik Kunt lives.

​

---

Tags: @Menas @Chad @Orka @AverageTevvezFan @SlayerJonas​

Underrated and insulin in the same sentence ?

 

[Sadist]

Underrated and insulin in the same sentence ?

on this forum at the very least, yeah

 

[smartstyle]

View attachment 4719765

An Introduction to Insulin
By Sadist

Spoiler: DISCLAIMERS

DISCLAIMER 1:
By no means is this medical advice. Everyone is different and some people may respond to this differently to others. Consult with a medical professional for the safest ways to make use of the info you’re about to find out.

DISCLAIMER 2:
This thread is directed at advanced AAS users only. I recommend running at least 2-3 cycles before implementing Insulin into your stack.

Thread Song:


​

---

Preface:


For some reason, I have barely seen anybody talk about pairing Insulin with hGH and AAS on this forum - and it has always really surprised me, as its benefits are very significant.

I have always had everything locked in: training, recovery, macros, gear, etc., yet have always struggled with gaining muscle. That is, until I figured out that my metabolism is batshit insane, and the issue was simply due to the way my body utilizes nutrients. Biologically, the human body does not require to hold onto a lot of muscle mass to function properly, instead focusing on utilizing the nutrients it receives to survive and ensure that all the vital parts are nourished. Even after that happens to be the case, the body is still quite reluctant to direct nutrients towards muscle recovery, directing them to other miscellaneous parts, besides just muscles. This is exactly why you need to eat like a fucking dog in order to get any significant gains, unless you’re myostatin deficient.

The three main pathways of anabolism are Testosterone, IGF-1 (hGH) and Insulin. Each one of them is responsible for a different way, in which myogenesis is assisted, through promoting protein synthesis via their own mechanisms. Whilst the former two are well-known, the latter one seems otherwise - and in this guide, I will break down this pathway, and how to properly take advantage of it.

​

---

Table of Contents:


I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin

III
Dosing, Protocol & Misc Info

IV
Conclusion


Without further ado, let’s get you proper fucking jacked.




​

---

I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?



Insulin is widely regarded as the most anabolic compound you can take. And that is for a good reason. Insulin works by interacting with GLUT4 receptors, which greatly ascends nutrient partitioning, specifically amino acids and glucose, sending a very good chunk of them straight into muscle cells. By doing this, it essentially helps you overcome the issues described in the preface, by basically telling your body to stop LDARing - and use the nutrients that you stuff your mug with to ascend and thrive, instead of forcing you to live in misery as a sad skinny chud. Now this, of course, does not mean that your body will start neglecting all your vitals and solely focus on building muscle all of a sudden - not at all. That is, of course, if you ensure correct (thus obviously, sufficient) nutrient intake. Insulin also synergizes with hGH pretty fucking well.


View attachment 4719905

​

---

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin:



Just like a lot of other compounds, Insulin use is heavily fear-mongered. A lot of high inhib faggots will never cease to yell shit like “don’t use slin, you can easily die from your very first injection!”. Bullshit. Similarly to compounds like DNP, as long as you are not a retard, take Insulin at proper doses, and do all other required things (which are pretty fucking effortless, mind you) - you will be completely fine. Below, I will list all most common potential side effects that can occur from Insulin usage, although again, do consider that you may pretty much only get them if your IQ is sub-80:



Hypoglycemia - Insulin, quite obviously, lowers blood sugar. This is actually the shit that can potentially kill you if you take it carelessly;

Insulin resistance - prolonged exogenous Insulin usage will make your body tolerant to it, and therefore may spike your baseline glucose levels slightly upon discontinuation. However, there is a very easy fix for that, that I will touch on shortly;

Hypokalemia - intake enough electrolytes;

Injection site reactions - just pin properly.



Now that we have those covered, I will tell you exactly how to avoid each and every single one of them through using Insulin properly.

​

---

III
Insulin Dosing, Protocol & Misc. Info:

Rapid-Acting Insulin is the superior option. And it is so simply due to the fact that you have way more control over it, as compared to its Long-Acting counterpart. The half-life of the former is mere 2-5 hours, whilst the latter varies anywhere from 25 to 45 hours. This makes Rapid very convenient to use, as we will be administering it in a peri-workout fashion.

There is no need to dose Insulin too high, as the benefit it will bring will be pretty marginal compared to the risks and pain in the ass it can create. With that said, I personally know a 15 year-old low-inhib guy, who used to take 60 or 70 units of NovoRapid per day (with proof) and was completely fine, although again, this is completely anecdotal, and he is still an idiot for doing that. It simply shows that Insulin does not equate to “muh instant death”.

Before we go any further, it is CRUCIAL you buy a Blood Glucose Monitor and optimally, use it three times a day. The generally agreed-upon optimal baseline Glucose Levels are 3.9-5.4mmol/L fasted and below 7.8mmol/L unfasted.

We will be dosing Rapid-Acting Insulin at 5-15IU per day. You can go up to 20IU, but I simply think there is no need.

As mentioned above, it is best to take Insulin (but also hGH) is peri-workout, to maximize its efficiency. The way to do it is to simply split the dose in half, and take one half pre, and the other one post workout. I heavily suggest pairing Insulin with hGH at the very least, but obviously also ideally with AAS.

Carb intake is VERY important to ensure you have enough nutrients to direct to both muscles AND vitals, so that you don’t go hypo. The general rule of thumb is 1IU Insulin per 10g Carbs, but I personally prefer to have a bit more Carbs than that; better safe than sorry, you know? Not only that, but it’s best to also have an appropriate Carb intake throughout your workout, as lifting depletes your glycogen stores pretty fucking hard. My personal recommendation is a carbohydrate blend that comes in powder form, as it is very easy to prepare and consume Pre and Mid-Workout. For Post-Workout Carbs, I recommend getting them from High GI food (The GI Index being a system, which ranks different foods from 1 to 100, depending on the speed, at which they raise Glucose levels).

View attachment 4719908

I also recommend taking around 25g Protein Pre-Workout (and obviously a sufficient amount Post, but that’s water). Appropriate Post-Workout Electrolyte intake is also recommended to further avoid feeling like shit, which I recommend getting from both food AND a serving of powdered electrolytes/supplements.

Below, I will demonstrate both the sequence, in which you should take your compounds, and give my example.



The sequence should go as follows:


Pre-Workout:
Insulin > hGH > Liquid Carbs + Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Liquid Carbs;


Post-workout:
Insulin > hGH > High GI Food Carbs + Food Protein + Food AND Powdered Electrolytes.



My Example
(again, do keep in mind that my carb intake is slightly higher than the bare minimum):


Total Per Day - 10IU NovoRapid, 4IU hGh, 300g Carbs (peri-workout only) + Electrolytes

with the sequence being:


Pre-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > 100g Liquid Carbs + 25g Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Carbs (100g total);


Post-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > (at least) 100g High GI Food Carbs + 50g Food Protein + 1 serving of Electrolyte Blend ON TOP of Electrolytes I get from food.



Let me reiterate: as long as you ingest enough carbs & electrolytes at adequate Insulin doses, you should be completely fine.

Regarding Insulin resistance, Insulin should only be used throughout your blasts (16 weeks being the ideal timeframe). After that (relatively short) period, your body should quite effortlessly return to baseline resistance, even if you don’t do anything about it. However, it’s best that you keep lifting regularly after the blast ends, AND shred as quickly as possible (as higher bodyfat has been shown to contribute to Insulin Resistance over and over again).

Last thing to note (although should be fucking obvious) is to double-check the amount of units per click on YOUR pen.

​

---

IV
Conclusion:

Insulin will give you pretty fucking solid gains if paired with AAS and hGH. It is piss easy to use, is not expensive, and it’s pretty unlikely to buy some boof shit, since it’s quite easy to source it pretty much anywhere.

To summarize: Stay consistent, consume appropriate nutrients (especially Carbs), monitor Blood Glucose frequently, don’t OD, train even post-cycle, and ideally, shred as quickly as possible after said cycle (DNP & GLP-1 Agonists are your best friends for that).
And above all else - enjoy your slayer Sik Kunt lives.

​

---

Tags: @Menas @Chad @Orka @AverageTevvezFan @SlayerJonas​

DNR just train till mild discomfort for like year or two and enjoy most appeal physique you can ever get.

 

[Leo]

on this forum at the very least, yeah

Im thinking about doing 10iu hgh + 10iu short slin on first cycke, does that sound good?

Also in the cycle irrelevant to the insulin thread but 500 test, 300 eq, probably and oral too but i havent figured out which one yet.

 

[Leo]

Im thinking about doing 10iu hgh + 10iu short slin on first cycke, does that sound good?

Also in the cycle irrelevant to the insulin thread but 500 test, 300 eq, probably and oral too but i havent figured out which one yet.

oh yeah reta too

 

[AverageCurryEnjoyer]

Thanks bhai

 

[Brutal4Melo]

mirin effort

 

[Sadist]

Im thinking about doing 10iu hgh + 10iu short slin on first cycke, does that sound good?

Also in the cycle irrelevant to the insulin thread but 500 test, 300 eq, probably and oral too but i havent figured out which one yet.

10 gh is overkill
just do 500 test 50 anadrol (writing this from the gym and i just realized i forgot to take my adrol)

but as per the disclaimer, i dont suggest running slin right away.

 

[Orka]

View attachment 4719765

An Introduction to Insulin
By Sadist

Spoiler: DISCLAIMERS

DISCLAIMER 1:
By no means is this medical advice. Everyone is different and some people may respond to this differently to others. Consult with a medical professional for the safest ways to make use of the info you’re about to find out.

DISCLAIMER 2:
This thread is directed at advanced AAS users only. I recommend running at least 2-3 cycles before implementing Insulin into your stack.

Thread Song:


​

---

Preface:


For some reason, I have barely seen anybody talk about pairing Insulin with hGH and AAS on this forum - and it has always really surprised me, as its benefits are very significant.

I have always had everything locked in: training, recovery, macros, gear, etc., yet have always struggled with gaining muscle. That is, until I figured out that my metabolism is batshit insane, and the issue was simply due to the way my body utilizes nutrients. Biologically, the human body does not require to hold onto a lot of muscle mass to function properly, instead focusing on utilizing the nutrients it receives to survive and ensure that all the vital parts are nourished. Even after that happens to be the case, the body is still quite reluctant to direct nutrients towards muscle recovery, directing them to other miscellaneous parts, besides just muscles. This is exactly why you need to eat like a fucking dog in order to get any significant gains, unless you’re myostatin deficient.

The three main pathways of anabolism are Testosterone, IGF-1 (hGH) and Insulin. Each one of them is responsible for a different way, in which myogenesis is assisted, through promoting protein synthesis via their own mechanisms. Whilst the former two are well-known, the latter one seems otherwise - and in this guide, I will break down this pathway, and how to properly take advantage of it.

​

---

Table of Contents:


I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin

III
Dosing, Protocol & Misc Info

IV
Conclusion


Without further ado, let’s get you proper fucking jacked.




​

---

I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?



Insulin is widely regarded as the most anabolic compound you can take. And that is for a good reason. Insulin works by interacting with GLUT4 receptors, which greatly ascends nutrient partitioning, specifically amino acids and glucose, sending a very good chunk of them straight into muscle cells. By doing this, it essentially helps you overcome the issues described in the preface, by basically telling your body to stop LDARing - and use the nutrients that you stuff your mug with to ascend and thrive, instead of forcing you to live in misery as a sad skinny chud. Now this, of course, does not mean that your body will start neglecting all your vitals and solely focus on building muscle all of a sudden - not at all. That is, of course, if you ensure correct (thus obviously, sufficient) nutrient intake. Insulin also synergizes with hGH pretty fucking well.


View attachment 4719905

​

---

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin:



Just like a lot of other compounds, Insulin use is heavily fear-mongered. A lot of high inhib faggots will never cease to yell shit like “don’t use slin, you can easily die from your very first injection!”. Bullshit. Similarly to compounds like DNP, as long as you are not a retard, take Insulin at proper doses, and do all other required things (which are pretty fucking effortless, mind you) - you will be completely fine. Below, I will list all most common potential side effects that can occur from Insulin usage, although again, do consider that you may pretty much only get them if your IQ is sub-80:



Hypoglycemia - Insulin, quite obviously, lowers blood sugar. This is actually the shit that can potentially kill you if you take it carelessly;

Insulin resistance - prolonged exogenous Insulin usage will make your body tolerant to it, and therefore may spike your baseline glucose levels slightly upon discontinuation. However, there is a very easy fix for that, that I will touch on shortly;

Hypokalemia - intake enough electrolytes;

Injection site reactions - just pin properly.



Now that we have those covered, I will tell you exactly how to avoid each and every single one of them through using Insulin properly.

​

---

III
Insulin Dosing, Protocol & Misc. Info:

Rapid-Acting Insulin is the superior option. And it is so simply due to the fact that you have way more control over it, as compared to its Long-Acting counterpart. The half-life of the former is mere 2-5 hours, whilst the latter varies anywhere from 25 to 45 hours. This makes Rapid very convenient to use, as we will be administering it in a peri-workout fashion.

There is no need to dose Insulin too high, as the benefit it will bring will be pretty marginal compared to the risks and pain in the ass it can create. With that said, I personally know a 15 year-old low-inhib guy, who used to take 60 or 70 units of NovoRapid per day (with proof) and was completely fine, although again, this is completely anecdotal, and he is still an idiot for doing that. It simply shows that Insulin does not equate to “muh instant death”.

Before we go any further, it is CRUCIAL you buy a Blood Glucose Monitor and optimally, use it three times a day. The generally agreed-upon optimal baseline Glucose Levels are 3.9-5.4mmol/L fasted and below 7.8mmol/L unfasted.

We will be dosing Rapid-Acting Insulin at 5-15IU per day. You can go up to 20IU, but I simply think there is no need.

As mentioned above, it is best to take Insulin (but also hGH) is peri-workout, to maximize its efficiency. The way to do it is to simply split the dose in half, and take one half pre, and the other one post workout. I heavily suggest pairing Insulin with hGH at the very least, but obviously also ideally with AAS.

Carb intake is VERY important to ensure you have enough nutrients to direct to both muscles AND vitals, so that you don’t go hypo. The general rule of thumb is 1IU Insulin per 10g Carbs, but I personally prefer to have a bit more Carbs than that; better safe than sorry, you know? Not only that, but it’s best to also have an appropriate Carb intake throughout your workout, as lifting depletes your glycogen stores pretty fucking hard. My personal recommendation is a carbohydrate blend that comes in powder form, as it is very easy to prepare and consume Pre and Mid-Workout. For Post-Workout Carbs, I recommend getting them from High GI food (The GI Index being a system, which ranks different foods from 1 to 100, depending on the speed, at which they raise Glucose levels).

View attachment 4719908

I also recommend taking around 25g Protein Pre-Workout (and obviously a sufficient amount Post, but that’s water). Appropriate Post-Workout Electrolyte intake is also recommended to further avoid feeling like shit, which I recommend getting from both food AND a serving of powdered electrolytes/supplements.

Below, I will demonstrate both the sequence, in which you should take your compounds, and give my example.



The sequence should go as follows:


Pre-Workout:
Insulin > hGH > Liquid Carbs + Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Liquid Carbs;


Post-workout:
Insulin > hGH > High GI Food Carbs + Food Protein + Food AND Powdered Electrolytes.



My Example
(again, do keep in mind that my carb intake is slightly higher than the bare minimum):


Total Per Day - 10IU NovoRapid, 4IU hGh, 300g Carbs (peri-workout only) + Electrolytes

with the sequence being:


Pre-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > 100g Liquid Carbs + 25g Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Carbs (100g total);


Post-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > (at least) 100g High GI Food Carbs + 50g Food Protein + 1 serving of Electrolyte Blend ON TOP of Electrolytes I get from food.



Let me reiterate: as long as you ingest enough carbs & electrolytes at adequate Insulin doses, you should be completely fine.

Regarding Insulin resistance, Insulin should only be used throughout your blasts (16 weeks being the ideal timeframe). After that (relatively short) period, your body should quite effortlessly return to baseline resistance, even if you don’t do anything about it. However, it’s best that you keep lifting regularly after the blast ends, AND shred as quickly as possible (as higher bodyfat has been shown to contribute to Insulin Resistance over and over again).

Last thing to note (although should be fucking obvious) is to double-check the amount of units per click on YOUR pen.

​

---

IV
Conclusion:

Insulin will give you pretty fucking solid gains if paired with AAS and hGH. It is piss easy to use, is not expensive, and it’s pretty unlikely to buy some boof shit, since it’s quite easy to source it pretty much anywhere.

To summarize: Stay consistent, consume appropriate nutrients (especially Carbs), monitor Blood Glucose frequently, don’t OD, train even post-cycle, and ideally, shred as quickly as possible after said cycle (DNP & GLP-1 Agonists are your best friends for that).
And above all else - enjoy your slayer Sik Kunt lives.

​

---

Tags: @Menas @Chad @Orka @AverageTevvezFan @SlayerJonas​

Great thread, thanks for the tag

Assuming that getting head 24/7 motivated you to write some more

 

[truewarlord]

View attachment 4719765

An Introduction to Insulin
By Sadist

Spoiler: DISCLAIMERS

DISCLAIMER 1:
By no means is this medical advice. Everyone is different and some people may respond to this differently to others. Consult with a medical professional for the safest ways to make use of the info you’re about to find out.

DISCLAIMER 2:
This thread is directed at advanced AAS users only. I recommend running at least 2-3 cycles before implementing Insulin into your stack.

Thread Song:


​

---

Preface:


For some reason, I have barely seen anybody talk about pairing Insulin with hGH and AAS on this forum - and it has always really surprised me, as its benefits are very significant.

I have always had everything locked in: training, recovery, macros, gear, etc., yet have always struggled with gaining muscle. That is, until I figured out that my metabolism is batshit insane, and the issue was simply due to the way my body utilizes nutrients. Biologically, the human body does not require to hold onto a lot of muscle mass to function properly, instead focusing on utilizing the nutrients it receives to survive and ensure that all the vital parts are nourished. Even after that happens to be the case, the body is still quite reluctant to direct nutrients towards muscle recovery, directing them to other miscellaneous parts, besides just muscles. This is exactly why you need to eat like a fucking dog in order to get any significant gains, unless you’re myostatin deficient.

The three main pathways of anabolism are Testosterone, IGF-1 (hGH) and Insulin. Each one of them is responsible for a different way, in which myogenesis is assisted, through promoting protein synthesis via their own mechanisms. Whilst the former two are well-known, the latter one seems otherwise - and in this guide, I will break down this pathway, and how to properly take advantage of it.

​

---

Table of Contents:


I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin

III
Dosing, Protocol & Misc Info

IV
Conclusion


Without further ado, let’s get you proper fucking jacked.




​

---

I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?



Insulin is widely regarded as the most anabolic compound you can take. And that is for a good reason. Insulin works by interacting with GLUT4 receptors, which greatly ascends nutrient partitioning, specifically amino acids and glucose, sending a very good chunk of them straight into muscle cells. By doing this, it essentially helps you overcome the issues described in the preface, by basically telling your body to stop LDARing - and use the nutrients that you stuff your mug with to ascend and thrive, instead of forcing you to live in misery as a sad skinny chud. Now this, of course, does not mean that your body will start neglecting all your vitals and solely focus on building muscle all of a sudden - not at all. That is, of course, if you ensure correct (thus obviously, sufficient) nutrient intake. Insulin also synergizes with hGH pretty fucking well.


View attachment 4719905

​

---

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin:



Just like a lot of other compounds, Insulin use is heavily fear-mongered. A lot of high inhib faggots will never cease to yell shit like “don’t use slin, you can easily die from your very first injection!”. Bullshit. Similarly to compounds like DNP, as long as you are not a retard, take Insulin at proper doses, and do all other required things (which are pretty fucking effortless, mind you) - you will be completely fine. Below, I will list all most common potential side effects that can occur from Insulin usage, although again, do consider that you may pretty much only get them if your IQ is sub-80:



Hypoglycemia - Insulin, quite obviously, lowers blood sugar. This is actually the shit that can potentially kill you if you take it carelessly;

Insulin resistance - prolonged exogenous Insulin usage will make your body tolerant to it, and therefore may spike your baseline glucose levels slightly upon discontinuation. However, there is a very easy fix for that, that I will touch on shortly;

Hypokalemia - intake enough electrolytes;

Injection site reactions - just pin properly.



Now that we have those covered, I will tell you exactly how to avoid each and every single one of them through using Insulin properly.

​

---

III
Insulin Dosing, Protocol & Misc. Info:

Rapid-Acting Insulin is the superior option. And it is so simply due to the fact that you have way more control over it, as compared to its Long-Acting counterpart. The half-life of the former is mere 2-5 hours, whilst the latter varies anywhere from 25 to 45 hours. This makes Rapid very convenient to use, as we will be administering it in a peri-workout fashion.

There is no need to dose Insulin too high, as the benefit it will bring will be pretty marginal compared to the risks and pain in the ass it can create. With that said, I personally know a 15 year-old low-inhib guy, who used to take 60 or 70 units of NovoRapid per day (with proof) and was completely fine, although again, this is completely anecdotal, and he is still an idiot for doing that. It simply shows that Insulin does not equate to “muh instant death”.

Before we go any further, it is CRUCIAL you buy a Blood Glucose Monitor and optimally, use it three times a day. The generally agreed-upon optimal baseline Glucose Levels are 3.9-5.4mmol/L fasted and below 7.8mmol/L unfasted.

We will be dosing Rapid-Acting Insulin at 5-15IU per day. You can go up to 20IU, but I simply think there is no need.

As mentioned above, it is best to take Insulin (but also hGH) is peri-workout, to maximize its efficiency. The way to do it is to simply split the dose in half, and take one half pre, and the other one post workout. I heavily suggest pairing Insulin with hGH at the very least, but obviously also ideally with AAS.

Carb intake is VERY important to ensure you have enough nutrients to direct to both muscles AND vitals, so that you don’t go hypo. The general rule of thumb is 1IU Insulin per 10g Carbs, but I personally prefer to have a bit more Carbs than that; better safe than sorry, you know? Not only that, but it’s best to also have an appropriate Carb intake throughout your workout, as lifting depletes your glycogen stores pretty fucking hard. My personal recommendation is a carbohydrate blend that comes in powder form, as it is very easy to prepare and consume Pre and Mid-Workout. For Post-Workout Carbs, I recommend getting them from High GI food (The GI Index being a system, which ranks different foods from 1 to 100, depending on the speed, at which they raise Glucose levels).

View attachment 4719908

I also recommend taking around 25g Protein Pre-Workout (and obviously a sufficient amount Post, but that’s water). Appropriate Post-Workout Electrolyte intake is also recommended to further avoid feeling like shit, which I recommend getting from both food AND a serving of powdered electrolytes/supplements.

Below, I will demonstrate both the sequence, in which you should take your compounds, and give my example.



The sequence should go as follows:


Pre-Workout:
Insulin > hGH > Liquid Carbs + Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Liquid Carbs;


Post-workout:
Insulin > hGH > High GI Food Carbs + Food Protein + Food AND Powdered Electrolytes.



My Example
(again, do keep in mind that my carb intake is slightly higher than the bare minimum):


Total Per Day - 10IU NovoRapid, 4IU hGh, 300g Carbs (peri-workout only) + Electrolytes

with the sequence being:


Pre-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > 100g Liquid Carbs + 25g Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Carbs (100g total);


Post-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > (at least) 100g High GI Food Carbs + 50g Food Protein + 1 serving of Electrolyte Blend ON TOP of Electrolytes I get from food.



Let me reiterate: as long as you ingest enough carbs & electrolytes at adequate Insulin doses, you should be completely fine.

Regarding Insulin resistance, Insulin should only be used throughout your blasts (16 weeks being the ideal timeframe). After that (relatively short) period, your body should quite effortlessly return to baseline resistance, even if you don’t do anything about it. However, it’s best that you keep lifting regularly after the blast ends, AND shred as quickly as possible (as higher bodyfat has been shown to contribute to Insulin Resistance over and over again).

Last thing to note (although should be fucking obvious) is to double-check the amount of units per click on YOUR pen.

​

---

IV
Conclusion:

Insulin will give you pretty fucking solid gains if paired with AAS and hGH. It is piss easy to use, is not expensive, and it’s pretty unlikely to buy some boof shit, since it’s quite easy to source it pretty much anywhere.

To summarize: Stay consistent, consume appropriate nutrients (especially Carbs), monitor Blood Glucose frequently, don’t OD, train even post-cycle, and ideally, shred as quickly as possible after said cycle (DNP & GLP-1 Agonists are your best friends for that).
And above all else - enjoy your slayer Sik Kunt lives.

​

---

Tags: @Menas @Chad @Orka @AverageTevvezFan @SlayerJonas​

botb contender

 

[Noesis]

@BrutalN2L

 

[Org3cel]

View attachment 4719765

An Introduction to Insulin
By Sadist

Spoiler: DISCLAIMERS

DISCLAIMER 1:
By no means is this medical advice. Everyone is different and some people may respond to this differently to others. Consult with a medical professional for the safest ways to make use of the info you’re about to find out.

DISCLAIMER 2:
This thread is directed at advanced AAS users only. I recommend running at least 2-3 cycles before implementing Insulin into your stack.

Thread Song:


​

---

Preface:


For some reason, I have barely seen anybody talk about pairing Insulin with hGH and AAS on this forum - and it has always really surprised me, as its benefits are very significant.

I have always had everything locked in: training, recovery, macros, gear, etc., yet have always struggled with gaining muscle. That is, until I figured out that my metabolism is batshit insane, and the issue was simply due to the way my body utilizes nutrients. Biologically, the human body does not require to hold onto a lot of muscle mass to function properly, instead focusing on utilizing the nutrients it receives to survive and ensure that all the vital parts are nourished. Even after that happens to be the case, the body is still quite reluctant to direct nutrients towards muscle recovery, directing them to other miscellaneous parts, besides just muscles. This is exactly why you need to eat like a fucking dog in order to get any significant gains, unless you’re myostatin deficient.

The three main pathways of anabolism are Testosterone, IGF-1 (hGH) and Insulin. Each one of them is responsible for a different way, in which myogenesis is assisted, through promoting protein synthesis via their own mechanisms. Whilst the former two are well-known, the latter one seems otherwise - and in this guide, I will break down this pathway, and how to properly take advantage of it.

​

---

Table of Contents:


I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin

III
Dosing, Protocol & Misc Info

IV
Conclusion


Without further ado, let’s get you proper fucking jacked.




​

---

I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?



Insulin is widely regarded as the most anabolic compound you can take. And that is for a good reason. Insulin works by interacting with GLUT4 receptors, which greatly ascends nutrient partitioning, specifically amino acids and glucose, sending a very good chunk of them straight into muscle cells. By doing this, it essentially helps you overcome the issues described in the preface, by basically telling your body to stop LDARing - and use the nutrients that you stuff your mug with to ascend and thrive, instead of forcing you to live in misery as a sad skinny chud. Now this, of course, does not mean that your body will start neglecting all your vitals and solely focus on building muscle all of a sudden - not at all. That is, of course, if you ensure correct (thus obviously, sufficient) nutrient intake. Insulin also synergizes with hGH pretty fucking well.


View attachment 4719905

​

---

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin:



Just like a lot of other compounds, Insulin use is heavily fear-mongered. A lot of high inhib faggots will never cease to yell shit like “don’t use slin, you can easily die from your very first injection!”. Bullshit. Similarly to compounds like DNP, as long as you are not a retard, take Insulin at proper doses, and do all other required things (which are pretty fucking effortless, mind you) - you will be completely fine. Below, I will list all most common potential side effects that can occur from Insulin usage, although again, do consider that you may pretty much only get them if your IQ is sub-80:



Hypoglycemia - Insulin, quite obviously, lowers blood sugar. This is actually the shit that can potentially kill you if you take it carelessly;

Insulin resistance - prolonged exogenous Insulin usage will make your body tolerant to it, and therefore may spike your baseline glucose levels slightly upon discontinuation. However, there is a very easy fix for that, that I will touch on shortly;

Hypokalemia - intake enough electrolytes;

Injection site reactions - just pin properly.



Now that we have those covered, I will tell you exactly how to avoid each and every single one of them through using Insulin properly.

​

---

III
Insulin Dosing, Protocol & Misc. Info:

Rapid-Acting Insulin is the superior option. And it is so simply due to the fact that you have way more control over it, as compared to its Long-Acting counterpart. The half-life of the former is mere 2-5 hours, whilst the latter varies anywhere from 25 to 45 hours. This makes Rapid very convenient to use, as we will be administering it in a peri-workout fashion.

There is no need to dose Insulin too high, as the benefit it will bring will be pretty marginal compared to the risks and pain in the ass it can create. With that said, I personally know a 15 year-old low-inhib guy, who used to take 60 or 70 units of NovoRapid per day (with proof) and was completely fine, although again, this is completely anecdotal, and he is still an idiot for doing that. It simply shows that Insulin does not equate to “muh instant death”.

Before we go any further, it is CRUCIAL you buy a Blood Glucose Monitor and optimally, use it three times a day. The generally agreed-upon optimal baseline Glucose Levels are 3.9-5.4mmol/L fasted and below 7.8mmol/L unfasted.

We will be dosing Rapid-Acting Insulin at 5-15IU per day. You can go up to 20IU, but I simply think there is no need.

As mentioned above, it is best to take Insulin (but also hGH) is peri-workout, to maximize its efficiency. The way to do it is to simply split the dose in half, and take one half pre, and the other one post workout. I heavily suggest pairing Insulin with hGH at the very least, but obviously also ideally with AAS.

Carb intake is VERY important to ensure you have enough nutrients to direct to both muscles AND vitals, so that you don’t go hypo. The general rule of thumb is 1IU Insulin per 10g Carbs, but I personally prefer to have a bit more Carbs than that; better safe than sorry, you know? Not only that, but it’s best to also have an appropriate Carb intake throughout your workout, as lifting depletes your glycogen stores pretty fucking hard. My personal recommendation is a carbohydrate blend that comes in powder form, as it is very easy to prepare and consume Pre and Mid-Workout. For Post-Workout Carbs, I recommend getting them from High GI food (The GI Index being a system, which ranks different foods from 1 to 100, depending on the speed, at which they raise Glucose levels).

View attachment 4719908

I also recommend taking around 25g Protein Pre-Workout (and obviously a sufficient amount Post, but that’s water). Appropriate Post-Workout Electrolyte intake is also recommended to further avoid feeling like shit, which I recommend getting from both food AND a serving of powdered electrolytes/supplements.

Below, I will demonstrate both the sequence, in which you should take your compounds, and give my example.



The sequence should go as follows:


Pre-Workout:
Insulin > hGH > Liquid Carbs + Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Liquid Carbs;


Post-workout:
Insulin > hGH > High GI Food Carbs + Food Protein + Food AND Powdered Electrolytes.



My Example
(again, do keep in mind that my carb intake is slightly higher than the bare minimum):


Total Per Day - 10IU NovoRapid, 4IU hGh, 300g Carbs (peri-workout only) + Electrolytes

with the sequence being:


Pre-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > 100g Liquid Carbs + 25g Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Carbs (100g total);


Post-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > (at least) 100g High GI Food Carbs + 50g Food Protein + 1 serving of Electrolyte Blend ON TOP of Electrolytes I get from food.



Let me reiterate: as long as you ingest enough carbs & electrolytes at adequate Insulin doses, you should be completely fine.

Regarding Insulin resistance, Insulin should only be used throughout your blasts (16 weeks being the ideal timeframe). After that (relatively short) period, your body should quite effortlessly return to baseline resistance, even if you don’t do anything about it. However, it’s best that you keep lifting regularly after the blast ends, AND shred as quickly as possible (as higher bodyfat has been shown to contribute to Insulin Resistance over and over again).

Last thing to note (although should be fucking obvious) is to double-check the amount of units per click on YOUR pen.

​

---

IV
Conclusion:

Insulin will give you pretty fucking solid gains if paired with AAS and hGH. It is piss easy to use, is not expensive, and it’s pretty unlikely to buy some boof shit, since it’s quite easy to source it pretty much anywhere.

To summarize: Stay consistent, consume appropriate nutrients (especially Carbs), monitor Blood Glucose frequently, don’t OD, train even post-cycle, and ideally, shred as quickly as possible after said cycle (DNP & GLP-1 Agonists are your best friends for that).
And above all else - enjoy your slayer Sik Kunt lives.

​

---

Tags: @Menas @Chad @Orka @AverageTevvezFan @SlayerJonas​

Real fucking nice!
Secret to getting big sure as hell is insulin

 

[childishkillah]

Great thread, not doing this shii any time soon tho but bookmarked.

 

[Aryan Incel]

View attachment 4719765

An Introduction to Insulin
By Sadist

Spoiler: DISCLAIMERS

DISCLAIMER 1:
By no means is this medical advice. Everyone is different and some people may respond to this differently to others. Consult with a medical professional for the safest ways to make use of the info you’re about to find out.

DISCLAIMER 2:
This thread is directed at advanced AAS users only. I recommend running at least 2-3 cycles before implementing Insulin into your stack.

Thread Song:


​

---

Preface:


For some reason, I have barely seen anybody talk about pairing Insulin with hGH and AAS on this forum - and it has always really surprised me, as its benefits are very significant.

I have always had everything locked in: training, recovery, macros, gear, etc., yet have always struggled with gaining muscle. That is, until I figured out that my metabolism is batshit insane, and the issue was simply due to the way my body utilizes nutrients. Biologically, the human body does not require to hold onto a lot of muscle mass to function properly, instead focusing on utilizing the nutrients it receives to survive and ensure that all the vital parts are nourished. Even after that happens to be the case, the body is still quite reluctant to direct nutrients towards muscle recovery, directing them to other miscellaneous parts, besides just muscles. This is exactly why you need to eat like a fucking dog in order to get any significant gains, unless you’re myostatin deficient.

The three main pathways of anabolism are Testosterone, IGF-1 (hGH) and Insulin. Each one of them is responsible for a different way, in which myogenesis is assisted, through promoting protein synthesis via their own mechanisms. Whilst the former two are well-known, the latter one seems otherwise - and in this guide, I will break down this pathway, and how to properly take advantage of it.

​

---

Table of Contents:


I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin

III
Dosing, Protocol & Misc Info

IV
Conclusion


Without further ado, let’s get you proper fucking jacked.




​

---

I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?



Insulin is widely regarded as the most anabolic compound you can take. And that is for a good reason. Insulin works by interacting with GLUT4 receptors, which greatly ascends nutrient partitioning, specifically amino acids and glucose, sending a very good chunk of them straight into muscle cells. By doing this, it essentially helps you overcome the issues described in the preface, by basically telling your body to stop LDARing - and use the nutrients that you stuff your mug with to ascend and thrive, instead of forcing you to live in misery as a sad skinny chud. Now this, of course, does not mean that your body will start neglecting all your vitals and solely focus on building muscle all of a sudden - not at all. That is, of course, if you ensure correct (thus obviously, sufficient) nutrient intake. Insulin also synergizes with hGH pretty fucking well.


View attachment 4719905

​

---

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin:



Just like a lot of other compounds, Insulin use is heavily fear-mongered. A lot of high inhib faggots will never cease to yell shit like “don’t use slin, you can easily die from your very first injection!”. Bullshit. Similarly to compounds like DNP, as long as you are not a retard, take Insulin at proper doses, and do all other required things (which are pretty fucking effortless, mind you) - you will be completely fine. Below, I will list all most common potential side effects that can occur from Insulin usage, although again, do consider that you may pretty much only get them if your IQ is sub-80:



Hypoglycemia - Insulin, quite obviously, lowers blood sugar. This is actually the shit that can potentially kill you if you take it carelessly;

Insulin resistance - prolonged exogenous Insulin usage will make your body tolerant to it, and therefore may spike your baseline glucose levels slightly upon discontinuation. However, there is a very easy fix for that, that I will touch on shortly;

Hypokalemia - intake enough electrolytes;

Injection site reactions - just pin properly.



Now that we have those covered, I will tell you exactly how to avoid each and every single one of them through using Insulin properly.

​

---

III
Insulin Dosing, Protocol & Misc. Info:

Rapid-Acting Insulin is the superior option. And it is so simply due to the fact that you have way more control over it, as compared to its Long-Acting counterpart. The half-life of the former is mere 2-5 hours, whilst the latter varies anywhere from 25 to 45 hours. This makes Rapid very convenient to use, as we will be administering it in a peri-workout fashion.

There is no need to dose Insulin too high, as the benefit it will bring will be pretty marginal compared to the risks and pain in the ass it can create. With that said, I personally know a 15 year-old low-inhib guy, who used to take 60 or 70 units of NovoRapid per day (with proof) and was completely fine, although again, this is completely anecdotal, and he is still an idiot for doing that. It simply shows that Insulin does not equate to “muh instant death”.

Before we go any further, it is CRUCIAL you buy a Blood Glucose Monitor and optimally, use it three times a day. The generally agreed-upon optimal baseline Glucose Levels are 3.9-5.4mmol/L fasted and below 7.8mmol/L unfasted.

We will be dosing Rapid-Acting Insulin at 5-15IU per day. You can go up to 20IU, but I simply think there is no need.

As mentioned above, it is best to take Insulin (but also hGH) is peri-workout, to maximize its efficiency. The way to do it is to simply split the dose in half, and take one half pre, and the other one post workout. I heavily suggest pairing Insulin with hGH at the very least, but obviously also ideally with AAS.

Carb intake is VERY important to ensure you have enough nutrients to direct to both muscles AND vitals, so that you don’t go hypo. The general rule of thumb is 1IU Insulin per 10g Carbs, but I personally prefer to have a bit more Carbs than that; better safe than sorry, you know? Not only that, but it’s best to also have an appropriate Carb intake throughout your workout, as lifting depletes your glycogen stores pretty fucking hard. My personal recommendation is a carbohydrate blend that comes in powder form, as it is very easy to prepare and consume Pre and Mid-Workout. For Post-Workout Carbs, I recommend getting them from High GI food (The GI Index being a system, which ranks different foods from 1 to 100, depending on the speed, at which they raise Glucose levels).

View attachment 4719908

I also recommend taking around 25g Protein Pre-Workout (and obviously a sufficient amount Post, but that’s water). Appropriate Post-Workout Electrolyte intake is also recommended to further avoid feeling like shit, which I recommend getting from both food AND a serving of powdered electrolytes/supplements.

Below, I will demonstrate both the sequence, in which you should take your compounds, and give my example.



The sequence should go as follows:


Pre-Workout:
Insulin > hGH > Liquid Carbs + Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Liquid Carbs;


Post-workout:
Insulin > hGH > High GI Food Carbs + Food Protein + Food AND Powdered Electrolytes.



My Example
(again, do keep in mind that my carb intake is slightly higher than the bare minimum):


Total Per Day - 10IU NovoRapid, 4IU hGh, 300g Carbs (peri-workout only) + Electrolytes

with the sequence being:


Pre-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > 100g Liquid Carbs + 25g Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Carbs (100g total);


Post-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > (at least) 100g High GI Food Carbs + 50g Food Protein + 1 serving of Electrolyte Blend ON TOP of Electrolytes I get from food.



Let me reiterate: as long as you ingest enough carbs & electrolytes at adequate Insulin doses, you should be completely fine.

Regarding Insulin resistance, Insulin should only be used throughout your blasts (16 weeks being the ideal timeframe). After that (relatively short) period, your body should quite effortlessly return to baseline resistance, even if you don’t do anything about it. However, it’s best that you keep lifting regularly after the blast ends, AND shred as quickly as possible (as higher bodyfat has been shown to contribute to Insulin Resistance over and over again).

Last thing to note (although should be fucking obvious) is to double-check the amount of units per click on YOUR pen.

​

---

IV
Conclusion:

Insulin will give you pretty fucking solid gains if paired with AAS and hGH. It is piss easy to use, is not expensive, and it’s pretty unlikely to buy some boof shit, since it’s quite easy to source it pretty much anywhere.

To summarize: Stay consistent, consume appropriate nutrients (especially Carbs), monitor Blood Glucose frequently, don’t OD, train even post-cycle, and ideally, shred as quickly as possible after said cycle (DNP & GLP-1 Agonists are your best friends for that).
And above all else - enjoy your slayer Sik Kunt lives.

​

---

Tags: @Menas @Chad @Orka @AverageTevvezFan @SlayerJonas​

Mirin the thread bhai, also testosterone and insulin have some synergy due to test increasing glucose uptake, mineral retention and nitrogen retention.

 

[Leo]

10 gh is overkill
just do 500 test 50 anadrol (writing this from the gym and i just realized i forgot to take my adrol)

but as per the disclaimer, i dont suggest running slin right away.

Damn no eq?

I need to look insane before im 18 tho, and by the time i start the cycle i will be like 17 and 4 months

 

[VrillFatNoob24]

View attachment 4719765

An Introduction to Insulin
By Sadist

Spoiler: DISCLAIMERS

DISCLAIMER 1:
By no means is this medical advice. Everyone is different and some people may respond to this differently to others. Consult with a medical professional for the safest ways to make use of the info you’re about to find out.

DISCLAIMER 2:
This thread is directed at advanced AAS users only. I recommend running at least 2-3 cycles before implementing Insulin into your stack.

Thread Song:


​

---

Preface:


For some reason, I have barely seen anybody talk about pairing Insulin with hGH and AAS on this forum - and it has always really surprised me, as its benefits are very significant.

I have always had everything locked in: training, recovery, macros, gear, etc., yet have always struggled with gaining muscle. That is, until I figured out that my metabolism is batshit insane, and the issue was simply due to the way my body utilizes nutrients. Biologically, the human body does not require to hold onto a lot of muscle mass to function properly, instead focusing on utilizing the nutrients it receives to survive and ensure that all the vital parts are nourished. Even after that happens to be the case, the body is still quite reluctant to direct nutrients towards muscle recovery, directing them to other miscellaneous parts, besides just muscles. This is exactly why you need to eat like a fucking dog in order to get any significant gains, unless you’re myostatin deficient.

The three main pathways of anabolism are Testosterone, IGF-1 (hGH) and Insulin. Each one of them is responsible for a different way, in which myogenesis is assisted, through promoting protein synthesis via their own mechanisms. Whilst the former two are well-known, the latter one seems otherwise - and in this guide, I will break down this pathway, and how to properly take advantage of it.

​

---

Table of Contents:


I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin

III
Dosing, Protocol & Misc Info

IV
Conclusion


Without further ado, let’s get you proper fucking jacked.




​

---

I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?



Insulin is widely regarded as the most anabolic compound you can take. And that is for a good reason. Insulin works by interacting with GLUT4 receptors, which greatly ascends nutrient partitioning, specifically amino acids and glucose, sending a very good chunk of them straight into muscle cells. By doing this, it essentially helps you overcome the issues described in the preface, by basically telling your body to stop LDARing - and use the nutrients that you stuff your mug with to ascend and thrive, instead of forcing you to live in misery as a sad skinny chud. Now this, of course, does not mean that your body will start neglecting all your vitals and solely focus on building muscle all of a sudden - not at all. That is, of course, if you ensure correct (thus obviously, sufficient) nutrient intake. Insulin also synergizes with hGH pretty fucking well.


View attachment 4719905

​

---

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin:



Just like a lot of other compounds, Insulin use is heavily fear-mongered. A lot of high inhib faggots will never cease to yell shit like “don’t use slin, you can easily die from your very first injection!”. Bullshit. Similarly to compounds like DNP, as long as you are not a retard, take Insulin at proper doses, and do all other required things (which are pretty fucking effortless, mind you) - you will be completely fine. Below, I will list all most common potential side effects that can occur from Insulin usage, although again, do consider that you may pretty much only get them if your IQ is sub-80:



Hypoglycemia - Insulin, quite obviously, lowers blood sugar. This is actually the shit that can potentially kill you if you take it carelessly;

Insulin resistance - prolonged exogenous Insulin usage will make your body tolerant to it, and therefore may spike your baseline glucose levels slightly upon discontinuation. However, there is a very easy fix for that, that I will touch on shortly;

Hypokalemia - intake enough electrolytes;

Injection site reactions - just pin properly.



Now that we have those covered, I will tell you exactly how to avoid each and every single one of them through using Insulin properly.

​

---

III
Insulin Dosing, Protocol & Misc. Info:

Rapid-Acting Insulin is the superior option. And it is so simply due to the fact that you have way more control over it, as compared to its Long-Acting counterpart. The half-life of the former is mere 2-5 hours, whilst the latter varies anywhere from 25 to 45 hours. This makes Rapid very convenient to use, as we will be administering it in a peri-workout fashion.

There is no need to dose Insulin too high, as the benefit it will bring will be pretty marginal compared to the risks and pain in the ass it can create. With that said, I personally know a 15 year-old low-inhib guy, who used to take 60 or 70 units of NovoRapid per day (with proof) and was completely fine, although again, this is completely anecdotal, and he is still an idiot for doing that. It simply shows that Insulin does not equate to “muh instant death”.

Before we go any further, it is CRUCIAL you buy a Blood Glucose Monitor and optimally, use it three times a day. The generally agreed-upon optimal baseline Glucose Levels are 3.9-5.4mmol/L fasted and below 7.8mmol/L unfasted.

We will be dosing Rapid-Acting Insulin at 5-15IU per day. You can go up to 20IU, but I simply think there is no need.

As mentioned above, it is best to take Insulin (but also hGH) is peri-workout, to maximize its efficiency. The way to do it is to simply split the dose in half, and take one half pre, and the other one post workout. I heavily suggest pairing Insulin with hGH at the very least, but obviously also ideally with AAS.

Carb intake is VERY important to ensure you have enough nutrients to direct to both muscles AND vitals, so that you don’t go hypo. The general rule of thumb is 1IU Insulin per 10g Carbs, but I personally prefer to have a bit more Carbs than that; better safe than sorry, you know? Not only that, but it’s best to also have an appropriate Carb intake throughout your workout, as lifting depletes your glycogen stores pretty fucking hard. My personal recommendation is a carbohydrate blend that comes in powder form, as it is very easy to prepare and consume Pre and Mid-Workout. For Post-Workout Carbs, I recommend getting them from High GI food (The GI Index being a system, which ranks different foods from 1 to 100, depending on the speed, at which they raise Glucose levels).

View attachment 4719908

I also recommend taking around 25g Protein Pre-Workout (and obviously a sufficient amount Post, but that’s water). Appropriate Post-Workout Electrolyte intake is also recommended to further avoid feeling like shit, which I recommend getting from both food AND a serving of powdered electrolytes/supplements.

Below, I will demonstrate both the sequence, in which you should take your compounds, and give my example.



The sequence should go as follows:


Pre-Workout:
Insulin > hGH > Liquid Carbs + Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Liquid Carbs;


Post-workout:
Insulin > hGH > High GI Food Carbs + Food Protein + Food AND Powdered Electrolytes.



My Example
(again, do keep in mind that my carb intake is slightly higher than the bare minimum):


Total Per Day - 10IU NovoRapid, 4IU hGh, 300g Carbs (peri-workout only) + Electrolytes

with the sequence being:


Pre-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > 100g Liquid Carbs + 25g Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Carbs (100g total);


Post-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > (at least) 100g High GI Food Carbs + 50g Food Protein + 1 serving of Electrolyte Blend ON TOP of Electrolytes I get from food.



Let me reiterate: as long as you ingest enough carbs & electrolytes at adequate Insulin doses, you should be completely fine.

Regarding Insulin resistance, Insulin should only be used throughout your blasts (16 weeks being the ideal timeframe). After that (relatively short) period, your body should quite effortlessly return to baseline resistance, even if you don’t do anything about it. However, it’s best that you keep lifting regularly after the blast ends, AND shred as quickly as possible (as higher bodyfat has been shown to contribute to Insulin Resistance over and over again).

Last thing to note (although should be fucking obvious) is to double-check the amount of units per click on YOUR pen.

​

---

IV
Conclusion:

Insulin will give you pretty fucking solid gains if paired with AAS and hGH. It is piss easy to use, is not expensive, and it’s pretty unlikely to buy some boof shit, since it’s quite easy to source it pretty much anywhere.

To summarize: Stay consistent, consume appropriate nutrients (especially Carbs), monitor Blood Glucose frequently, don’t OD, train even post-cycle, and ideally, shred as quickly as possible after said cycle (DNP & GLP-1 Agonists are your best friends for that).
And above all else - enjoy your slayer Sik Kunt lives.

​

---

Tags: @Menas @Chad @Orka @AverageTevvezFan @SlayerJonas​

would say water, but i do agree its not talked about enough here

 

[Sadist]

Damn no eq?

I need to look insane before im 18 tho, and by the time i start the cycle i will be like 17 and 4 months

nah, at least not on first cycle

 

[Leo]

nah, at least not on first cycle

Alr alr, i will still look big i

 

[Leo]

nah, at least not on first cycle

Is anadrol the best oral with least side effects? Isnt Dbol good

 

[tension]

and where tf do u obtain insulin

 

[Noesis]

BOTB

 

[AtrophicPyra]

View attachment 4719765

An Introduction to Insulin
By Sadist

Spoiler: DISCLAIMERS

DISCLAIMER 1:
By no means is this medical advice. Everyone is different and some people may respond to this differently to others. Consult with a medical professional for the safest ways to make use of the info you’re about to find out.

DISCLAIMER 2:
This thread is directed at advanced AAS users only. I recommend running at least 2-3 cycles before implementing Insulin into your stack.

Thread Song:


​

---

Preface:


For some reason, I have barely seen anybody talk about pairing Insulin with hGH and AAS on this forum - and it has always really surprised me, as its benefits are very significant.

I have always had everything locked in: training, recovery, macros, gear, etc., yet have always struggled with gaining muscle. That is, until I figured out that my metabolism is batshit insane, and the issue was simply due to the way my body utilizes nutrients. Biologically, the human body does not require to hold onto a lot of muscle mass to function properly, instead focusing on utilizing the nutrients it receives to survive and ensure that all the vital parts are nourished. Even after that happens to be the case, the body is still quite reluctant to direct nutrients towards muscle recovery, directing them to other miscellaneous parts, besides just muscles. This is exactly why you need to eat like a fucking dog in order to get any significant gains, unless you’re myostatin deficient.

The three main pathways of anabolism are Testosterone, IGF-1 (hGH) and Insulin. Each one of them is responsible for a different way, in which myogenesis is assisted, through promoting protein synthesis via their own mechanisms. Whilst the former two are well-known, the latter one seems otherwise - and in this guide, I will break down this pathway, and how to properly take advantage of it.

​

---

Table of Contents:


I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin

III
Dosing, Protocol & Misc Info

IV
Conclusion


Without further ado, let’s get you proper fucking jacked.




​

---

I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?



Insulin is widely regarded as the most anabolic compound you can take. And that is for a good reason. Insulin works by interacting with GLUT4 receptors, which greatly ascends nutrient partitioning, specifically amino acids and glucose, sending a very good chunk of them straight into muscle cells. By doing this, it essentially helps you overcome the issues described in the preface, by basically telling your body to stop LDARing - and use the nutrients that you stuff your mug with to ascend and thrive, instead of forcing you to live in misery as a sad skinny chud. Now this, of course, does not mean that your body will start neglecting all your vitals and solely focus on building muscle all of a sudden - not at all. That is, of course, if you ensure correct (thus obviously, sufficient) nutrient intake. Insulin also directly synergizes with hGH and Testosterone pretty fucking well.


View attachment 4719905

​

---

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin:



Just like a lot of other compounds, Insulin use is heavily fear-mongered. A lot of high inhib faggots will never cease to yell shit like “don’t use slin, you can easily die from your very first injection!”. Bullshit. Similarly to compounds like DNP, as long as you are not a retard, take Insulin at proper doses, and do all other required things (which are pretty fucking effortless, mind you) - you will be completely fine. Below, I will list all most common potential side effects that can occur from Insulin usage, although again, do consider that you may pretty much only get them if your IQ is sub-80:



Hypoglycemia - Insulin, quite obviously, lowers blood sugar. This is actually the shit that can potentially kill you if you take it carelessly;

Insulin resistance - prolonged exogenous Insulin usage will make your body tolerant to it, and therefore may spike your baseline glucose levels slightly upon discontinuation. However, there is a very easy fix for that, that I will touch on shortly;

Hypokalemia - intake enough electrolytes;

Injection site reactions - just pin properly.



Now that we have those covered, I will tell you exactly how to avoid each and every single one of them through using Insulin properly.

​

---

III
Insulin Dosing, Protocol & Misc. Info:

Rapid-Acting Insulin is the superior option. And it is so simply due to the fact that you have way more control over it, as compared to its Long-Acting counterpart. The half-life of the former is mere 2-5 hours, whilst the latter varies anywhere from 25 to 45 hours. This makes Rapid very convenient to use, as we will be administering it in a peri-workout fashion.

There is no need to dose Insulin too high, as the benefit it will bring will be pretty marginal compared to the risks and pain in the ass it can create. With that said, I personally know a 15 year-old low-inhib guy, who used to take 60 or 70 units of NovoRapid per day (with proof) and was completely fine, although again, this is completely anecdotal, and he is still an idiot for doing that. It simply shows that Insulin does not equate to “muh instant death”.

Before we go any further, it is CRUCIAL you buy a Blood Glucose Monitor and optimally, use it three times a day. The generally agreed-upon optimal baseline Glucose Levels are 3.9-5.4mmol/L fasted and below 7.8mmol/L unfasted.

We will be dosing Rapid-Acting Insulin at 5-15IU per day. You can go up to 20IU, but I simply think there is no need.

As mentioned above, it is best to take Insulin (but also hGH) is peri-workout, to maximize its efficiency. The way to do it is to simply split the dose in half, and take one half pre, and the other one post workout. I heavily suggest pairing Insulin with hGH at the very least, but obviously also ideally with AAS.

Carb intake is VERY important to ensure you have enough nutrients to direct to both muscles AND vitals, so that you don’t go hypo. The general rule of thumb is 1IU Insulin per 10g Carbs, but I personally prefer to have a bit more Carbs than that; better safe than sorry, you know? Not only that, but it’s best to also have an appropriate Carb intake throughout your workout, as lifting depletes your glycogen stores pretty fucking hard. My personal recommendation is a carbohydrate blend that comes in powder form, as it is very easy to prepare and consume Pre and Mid-Workout. For Post-Workout Carbs, I recommend getting them from High GI food (The GI Index being a system, which ranks different foods from 1 to 100, depending on the speed, at which they raise Glucose levels).

View attachment 4719908

I also recommend taking around 25g Protein Pre-Workout (and obviously a sufficient amount Post, but that’s water). Appropriate Post-Workout Electrolyte intake is also recommended to further avoid feeling like shit, which I recommend getting from both food AND a serving of powdered electrolytes/supplements.

Below, I will demonstrate both the sequence, in which you should take your compounds, and give my example.



The sequence should go as follows:


Pre-Workout:
Insulin > hGH > Liquid Carbs + Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Liquid Carbs;


Post-workout:
Insulin > hGH > High GI Food Carbs + Food Protein + Food AND Powdered Electrolytes.



My Example
(again, do keep in mind that my carb intake is slightly higher than the bare minimum):


Total Per Day - 10IU NovoRapid, 4IU hGh, 300g Carbs (peri-workout only) + Electrolytes

with the sequence being:


Pre-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > 100g Liquid Carbs + 25g Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Carbs (100g total);


Post-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > (at least) 100g High GI Food Carbs + 50g Food Protein + 1 serving of Electrolyte Blend ON TOP of Electrolytes I get from food.



Let me reiterate: as long as you ingest enough carbs & electrolytes at adequate Insulin doses, you should be completely fine.

Regarding Insulin resistance, Insulin should only be used throughout your blasts (16 weeks being the ideal timeframe). After that (relatively short) period, your body should quite effortlessly return to baseline resistance, even if you don’t do anything about it. However, it’s best that you keep lifting regularly after the blast ends, AND shred as quickly as possible (as higher bodyfat has been shown to contribute to Insulin Resistance over and over again).

Last thing to note (although should be fucking obvious) is to double-check the amount of units per click on YOUR pen.

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IV
Conclusion:

Insulin will give you pretty fucking solid gains if paired with AAS and hGH. It is piss easy to use, is not expensive, and it’s pretty unlikely to buy some boof shit, since it’s quite easy to source it pretty much anywhere.

To summarize: Stay consistent, consume appropriate nutrients (especially Carbs), monitor Blood Glucose frequently, don’t OD, train even post-cycle, and ideally, shred as quickly as possible after said cycle (DNP & GLP-1 Agonists are your best friends for that).
And above all else - enjoy your slayer Sik Kunt lives.

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Tags: @Menas @Chad @Orka @AverageTevvezFan @SlayerJonas​

as a type 1 diabetic ur fucking retarded

 

[Sadist]

Is anadrol the best oral with least side effects? Isnt Dbol good

never tried dbol, but adrol is like the best preworkout ive ever used

and where tf do u obtain insulin

wherever you obtain the rest of ur pharma

 

[Sadist]

as a type 1 diabetic ur fucking retarded

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[tension]

wherever you obtain the rest of ur pharma

i've been looking for a place to buy hgh since yesterday and I still haven't found a place i'm confident in

 

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lmao keep coping you have no idea how hormones work

u have tenfolds the posts and reps yet /2 the iq BRUTAL

 

[Sadist]

lmao keep coping you have no idea how hormones work

u have tenfolds the posts and reps yet /2 the iq BRUTAL

i really hope this is ragebait, because otherwise i feel very sorry for you…

 

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An Introduction to Insulin
By Sadist

Spoiler: DISCLAIMERS

DISCLAIMER 1:
By no means is this medical advice. Everyone is different and some people may respond to this differently to others. Consult with a medical professional for the safest ways to make use of the info you’re about to find out.

DISCLAIMER 2:
This thread is directed at advanced AAS users only. I recommend running at least 2-3 cycles before implementing Insulin into your stack.

Thread Song:


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Preface:


For some reason, I have barely seen anybody talk about pairing Insulin with hGH and AAS on this forum - and it has always really surprised me, as its benefits are very significant.

I have always had everything locked in: training, recovery, macros, gear, etc., yet have always struggled with gaining muscle. That is, until I figured out that my metabolism is batshit insane, and the issue was simply due to the way my body utilizes nutrients. Biologically, the human body does not require to hold onto a lot of muscle mass to function properly, instead focusing on utilizing the nutrients it receives to survive and ensure that all the vital parts are nourished. Even after that happens to be the case, the body is still quite reluctant to direct nutrients towards muscle recovery, directing them to other miscellaneous parts, besides just muscles. This is exactly why you need to eat like a fucking dog in order to get any significant gains, unless you’re myostatin deficient.

The three main pathways of anabolism are Testosterone, IGF-1 (hGH) and Insulin. Each one of them is responsible for a different way, in which myogenesis is assisted, through promoting protein synthesis via their own mechanisms. Whilst the former two are well-known, the latter one seems otherwise - and in this guide, I will break down this pathway, and how to properly take advantage of it.

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Table of Contents:


I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?

II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin

III
Dosing, Protocol & Misc Info

IV
Conclusion


Without further ado, let’s get you proper fucking jacked.




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I
How Does Insulin Work and What are Its Benefits?



Insulin is widely regarded as the most anabolic compound you can take. And that is for a good reason. Insulin works by interacting with GLUT4 receptors, which greatly ascends nutrient partitioning, specifically amino acids and glucose, sending a very good chunk of them straight into muscle cells. By doing this, it essentially helps you overcome the issues described in the preface, by basically telling your body to stop LDARing - and use the nutrients that you stuff your mug with to ascend and thrive, instead of forcing you to live in misery as a sad skinny chud. Now this, of course, does not mean that your body will start neglecting all your vitals and solely focus on building muscle all of a sudden - not at all. That is, of course, if you ensure correct (thus obviously, sufficient) nutrient intake. Insulin also directly synergizes with hGH and Testosterone pretty fucking well.


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II
Side Effects and Risks Related to Insulin:



Just like a lot of other compounds, Insulin use is heavily fear-mongered. A lot of high inhib faggots will never cease to yell shit like “don’t use slin, you can easily die from your very first injection!”. Bullshit. Similarly to compounds like DNP, as long as you are not a retard, take Insulin at proper doses, and do all other required things (which are pretty fucking effortless, mind you) - you will be completely fine. Below, I will list all most common potential side effects that can occur from Insulin usage, although again, do consider that you may pretty much only get them if your IQ is sub-80:



Hypoglycemia - Insulin, quite obviously, lowers blood sugar. This is actually the shit that can potentially kill you if you take it carelessly;

Insulin resistance - prolonged exogenous Insulin usage will make your body tolerant to it, and therefore may spike your baseline glucose levels slightly upon discontinuation. However, there is a very easy fix for that, that I will touch on shortly;

Hypokalemia - intake enough electrolytes;

Injection site reactions - just pin properly.



Now that we have those covered, I will tell you exactly how to avoid each and every single one of them through using Insulin properly.

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III
Insulin Dosing, Protocol & Misc. Info:

Rapid-Acting Insulin is the superior option. And it is so simply due to the fact that you have way more control over it, as compared to its Long-Acting counterpart. The half-life of the former is mere 2-5 hours, whilst the latter varies anywhere from 25 to 45 hours. This makes Rapid very convenient to use, as we will be administering it in a peri-workout fashion.

There is no need to dose Insulin too high, as the benefit it will bring will be pretty marginal compared to the risks and pain in the ass it can create. With that said, I personally know a 15 year-old low-inhib guy, who used to take 60 or 70 units of NovoRapid per day (with proof) and was completely fine, although again, this is completely anecdotal, and he is still an idiot for doing that. It simply shows that Insulin does not equate to “muh instant death”.

Before we go any further, it is CRUCIAL you buy a Blood Glucose Monitor and optimally, use it three times a day. The generally agreed-upon optimal baseline Glucose Levels are 3.9-5.4mmol/L fasted and below 7.8mmol/L unfasted.

We will be dosing Rapid-Acting Insulin at 5-15IU per day. You can go up to 20IU, but I simply think there is no need.

As mentioned above, it is best to take Insulin (but also hGH) is peri-workout, to maximize its efficiency. The way to do it is to simply split the dose in half, and take one half pre, and the other one post workout. I heavily suggest pairing Insulin with hGH at the very least, but obviously also ideally with AAS.

Carb intake is VERY important to ensure you have enough nutrients to direct to both muscles AND vitals, so that you don’t go hypo. The general rule of thumb is 1IU Insulin per 10g Carbs, but I personally prefer to have a bit more Carbs than that; better safe than sorry, you know? Not only that, but it’s best to also have an appropriate Carb intake throughout your workout, as lifting depletes your glycogen stores pretty fucking hard. My personal recommendation is a carbohydrate blend that comes in powder form, as it is very easy to prepare and consume Pre and Mid-Workout. For Post-Workout Carbs, I recommend getting them from High GI food (The GI Index being a system, which ranks different foods from 1 to 100, depending on the speed, at which they raise Glucose levels).

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I also recommend taking around 25g Protein Pre-Workout (and obviously a sufficient amount Post, but that’s water). Appropriate Post-Workout Electrolyte intake is also recommended to further avoid feeling like shit, which I recommend getting from both food AND a serving of powdered electrolytes/supplements.

Below, I will demonstrate both the sequence, in which you should take your compounds, and give my example.



The sequence should go as follows:


Pre-Workout:
Insulin > hGH > Liquid Carbs + Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Liquid Carbs;


Post-workout:
Insulin > hGH > High GI Food Carbs + Food Protein + Food AND Powdered Electrolytes.



My Example
(again, do keep in mind that my carb intake is slightly higher than the bare minimum):


Total Per Day - 10IU NovoRapid, 4IU hGh, 300g Carbs (peri-workout only) + Electrolytes

with the sequence being:


Pre-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > 100g Liquid Carbs + 25g Liquid Protein;


Mid-Workout:
Set > Few sips of Carbs (100g total);


Post-Workout:
5IU Insulin > 2IU hGh > (at least) 100g High GI Food Carbs + 50g Food Protein + 1 serving of Electrolyte Blend ON TOP of Electrolytes I get from food.



Let me reiterate: as long as you ingest enough carbs & electrolytes at adequate Insulin doses, you should be completely fine.

Regarding Insulin resistance, Insulin should only be used throughout your blasts (16 weeks being the ideal timeframe). After that (relatively short) period, your body should quite effortlessly return to baseline resistance, even if you don’t do anything about it. However, it’s best that you keep lifting regularly after the blast ends, AND shred as quickly as possible (as higher bodyfat has been shown to contribute to Insulin Resistance over and over again).

Last thing to note (although should be fucking obvious) is to double-check the amount of units per click on YOUR pen.

​

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IV
Conclusion:

Insulin will give you pretty fucking solid gains if paired with AAS and hGH. It is piss easy to use, is not expensive, and it’s pretty unlikely to buy some boof shit, since it’s quite easy to source it pretty much anywhere.

To summarize: Stay consistent, consume appropriate nutrients (especially Carbs), monitor Blood Glucose frequently, don’t OD, train even post-cycle, and ideally, shred as quickly as possible after said cycle (DNP & GLP-1 Agonists are your best friends for that).
And above all else - enjoy your slayer Sik Kunt lives.

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Tags: @Menas @Chad @Orka @AverageTevvezFan @SlayerJonas​

How much weight did u gain during the 16 week slin cycle?
I would say slin one of the best weight gainers there is.

 

[Grievous]

Nice thread

Im glad mods pin most good threads so I dont have to look through the thousands of shitty threads

 

[smartstyle]

10 gh is overkill
just do 500 test 50 anadrol (writing this from the gym and i just realized i forgot to take my adrol)

but as per the disclaimer, i dont suggest running slin right away.

500 test is overkill. There is studies that say that anything more than 250 is low ROI and can really fuck you up.

lmao keep coping you have no idea how hormones work

u have tenfolds the posts and reps yet /2 the iq BRUTAL

Insulin does work as anabolic but idk if it's really worth to use if you aren't professional bodybuilder like making money from it.

I knew a guy who ran insulin and tren because he bit plateu at regular gear.

 

[AtrophicPyra]

i really hope this is ragebait, because otherwise i feel very sorry for you…

yeah bro go inject ur 10ius of insulin meanwhile im eating 100g of carbs and my pancreas is secreting the same amount of insulin u fucking jester