The Neurotypical Energy vs The Neurodivergent Energy

[Deleted member 21467]

If you weren’t made aware of it earlier, we have instincts that determine who we stay around, for those instincts ensure our survival.

Neurotypicals make up majority of the population

Neurodivergents are only 1% of the population.

Neurotypicals have this subconscious connection where they’re all after the same things. Money, fame, status, materialism.

Neurodivergents are after one thing, logical understanding of the world around them. They seek to connect with people because they would like to understand why the world works in such a way but when a neurotypical and a neurodivergent meets they don’t understand each other.

Most people in my community think I’m crazy because I speak the truth and I’m upfront. I’m very honest and they hate it. I’m basically a threat to the system and society because I go the opposite direction almost every time. I don’t do it to be special it’s just a natural genetic trait I have.

I have a rebellious genetic trait where I do the opposite of almost everything. Even other autists I see only want to do nt things but me, i don’t.

Everyone in real life is a stereotype

 

[MoggerGaston]

Legit

 

[TUSSELEIF]

One chance at life

Born with autism

 

[Darkeningstar]

logical understanding

This is where they fail

 

[Darkeningstar]

Linear logic is a problem, however I quite agree

 

[Deleted member 47180]

If you weren’t made aware of it earlier, we have instincts that determine who we stay around, for those instincts ensure our survival.

Neurotypicals make up majority of the population

Neurodivergents are only 1% of the population.

Neurotypicals have this subconscious connection where they’re all after the same things. Money, fame, status, materialism.

Neurodivergents are after one thing, logical understanding of the world around them. They seek to connect with people because they would like to understand why the world works in such a way but when a neurotypical and a neurodivergent meets they don’t understand each other.

Most people in my community think I’m crazy because I speak the truth and I’m upfront. I’m very honest and they hate it. I’m basically a threat to the system and society because I go the opposite direction almost every time. I don’t do it to be special it’s just a natural genetic trait I have.

I have a rebellious genetic trait where I do the opposite of almost everything. Even other autists I see only want to do nt things but me, i don’t.

Everyone in real life is a stereotype

Ik how you feel bro i had to monkmax after hs because everyone used to bully me and mob me for this , fuck society i will be alone forever now

 

[Klasik616]

Most people in my community think I’m crazy because I speak the truth and I’m upfront. I’m very honest and they hate it. I’m basically a threat to the system and society because I go the opposite direction almost every time. I don’t do it to be special it’s just a natural genetic trait I have.

I have a rebellious genetic trait where I do the opposite of almost everything. Even other autists I see only want to do nt things but me, i don’t.

Everyone in real life is a stereotype

Loved this part, I think we should be friends. I'm going get out there to be disliked as much as possible since being liked is impossible as a non normie. #destroythesystem gang @_MVP_

 

[Deleted member 21467]

Loved this part, I think we should be friends. I'm going get out there to be disliked as much as possible since being liked is impossible as a non normie. #destroythesystem gang @_MVP_

we aren’t friends we are brothers

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

If you weren’t made aware of it earlier, we have instincts that determine who we stay around, for those instincts ensure our survival.

Neurotypicals make up majority of the population

Neurodivergents are only 1% of the population.

Neurotypicals have this subconscious connection where they’re all after the same things. Money, fame, status, materialism.

Neurodivergents are after one thing, logical understanding of the world around them. They seek to connect with people because they would like to understand why the world works in such a way but when a neurotypical and a neurodivergent meets they don’t understand each other.

Most people in my community think I’m crazy because I speak the truth and I’m upfront. I’m very honest and they hate it. I’m basically a threat to the system and society because I go the opposite direction almost every time. I don’t do it to be special it’s just a natural genetic trait I have.

I have a rebellious genetic trait where I do the opposite of almost everything. Even other autists I see only want to do nt things but me, i don’t.

Everyone in real life is a stereotype

Basically me but BUT I know how to hide it unlike tou

Learn to fucking hide it you autistic bitch.

 

[Deleted member 21467]

Basically me but BUT I know how to hide it unlike tou

Learn to fucking hide it you autistic bitch.

I do know how to hide my true self, but I choose not to do it out of spite cause I hate most people irl

 

[slavicpsycho]

Everyone is a npc when i talk to them i just predict in my mind what they will respond and they say the exact thing lol easy

 

[6PSLcel]

autism coupled with high iq and below average looks = hell on earth

 

[6PSLcel]

Everyone is a npc when i talk to them i just predict in my mind what they will respond and they say the exact thing lol easy

this, bro so many times I could predict ahead of time what someone was gonna say or ask me, so I just answer or respond ahead of time and they give me the suprised pikachu face all the time, it's so funny to watch, they don't even realise how predictable they are which is funny to me.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

autism coupled with high iq and below average looks = hell on earth

Nar high IQ means you can create wacky shit and be famous and rich. Autism + adhd means your a slave to hedonism it’s dogshit

 

[PARISIEN]

What the plan

 

[6PSLcel]

Nar high IQ means you can create wacky shit and be famous and rich. Autism + adhd means your a slave to hedonism it’s dogshit

uhh it's not that binary

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

uhh it's not that binary

Yes it is I have it I knwo what I’m saying

Imagine being smarter than most ppl but you can’t actually do anything with it because you can only procrastinate because the moment you do anything constructive you get bored fidgety and leave

 

[PARISIEN]

If u high IQ and u born in New Delhi it’s over

 

[6PSLcel]

Yes it is I have it I knwo what I’m saying

Imagine being smarter than most ppl but you can’t actually do anything with it because you can only procrastinate because the moment you do anything constructive you get bored fidgety and leave

k

 

[Deleted member 21467]

Nar high IQ means you can create wacky shit and be famous and rich. Autism + adhd means your a slave to hedonism it’s dogshit

autists can create wacky shit too you know about Elon musk bill gates? Ik these are outliers but it’s not an automatic death sentence to have it

as for adhd I’m not too sure what that’s about

 

[PARISIEN]

Yes it is I have it I knwo what I’m saying

Imagine being smarter than most ppl but you can’t actually do anything with it because you can only procrastinate because the moment you do anything constructive you get bored fidgety and leave

Cause to be rich you have to be already rich like this you pay people to do the boring part

 

[hypernormie]

This depends

I’m very neurodivergent but can easily hang out with NT people and fit in

I’m so neurodivergent that I constantly have people tell me that I’m “different” and “eccentric” and “odd” yet I never had a problem fitting in

In high school I was one of the cooler kids and was rather popular

The labels however came because I have a hard time keeping up the NT mask forever. I just find NT conversation incredibly boring and low energy and so tend to try and direct it towards my interests which are often unconventional

However this has never really been a problem for me because #1 I’m GL so I have a looks halo and #2 I can play NT social games and pass NT social tests

NT social groups have certain emotional expectations that must be met if you are to participate. This is why many autistic people fail in fitting in, their brains simply cannot handle processing so many varied and subtle emotional expectations and so they tend to fail many of the social tests that NT people impose on them as a barrier to entry into the social group

I’m probably the most socially savvy yet socially discordant person in any situation. This comes from primarily my lack of desire to fit in as opposed to an inability to fit in. I gain easy entry into social groups because I can easily identify and respond to the social tests but I see NT people as lesser and place little value on them so continuously forcing myself to comply with their social rules is not valuable to me. I’d rather blow up a social situation by attempting to make it more entertaining to me than conform and be bored

This also translates into low inhib btw

Anyway, this leads to many funny situations of people shit testing me in social situations because they can see I’m not conforming to the social norms. When most people see someone not conforming to social norms and creating an uncomfortable environment, their first thought is that the person is simply unable to conform to social norms because their are defective (autistic in the real way not the internet way) and so try to oust them. For an NT person, seeing someone like this in a social group is an opportunity to gain value by either being the hero who saves the social group from the non NT persons uncomfortable presence or by using said person as a punching bag to boost their own value.

Many NT normies have tried this on me only to embarrass themselves when I inevitably flip the situation back on its head and make them the butt of the joke or force them into uncomfortable social confrontations they weren’t prepared for. This is something you learn from PUA and is the basis of Owen Cook’s segment on “how to deal with an AMOG” in the book “The Game” by Neil Strauss (ya know the place where the term mog came from)

Being non NT doesn’t mean you can’t fit in, but it will be harder to fit in

Either because you are actually autistic and your brain is incapable of keeping up in an NT social circle

Or

Because you are sociopathic with a high IQ (often labeled as autism on the internet) and thus find it boring to conform to NT social expectations (ie: the average NT normie is incapable of keeping up with you)

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Cause to be rich you have to be already rich like this you pay people to do the boring part

Kind off but the point remains.

autists can create wacky shit too you know about Elon musk bill gates? Ik these are outliers but it’s not an automatic death sentence to have it

as for adhd I’m not too sure what that’s about

Yeah that’s what I’m saying…. But now imagine having adhd you can’t create anything because your too obessed with specific thinfs

Then imagine living in the uk and getting no medication because the NHS is shit and then being told that suicide is a bad thing? Why should I not end my life it’s going nowhere ima be a loser forever due to this socieity and my nueroduversity it sucks.

 

[ivan.kuk]

This depends

I’m very neurodivergent but can easily hang out with NT people and fit in

I’m so neurodivergent that I constantly have people tell me that I’m “different” and “eccentric” and “odd” yet I never had a problem fitting in

In high school I was one of the cooler kids and was rather popular

The labels however came because I have a hard time keeping up the NT mask forever. I just find NT conversation incredibly boring and low energy and so tend to try and direct it towards my interests which are often unconventional

However this has never really been a problem for me because #1 I’m GL so I have a looks halo and #2 I can play NT social games and pass NT social tests

NT social groups have certain emotional expectations that must be met if you are to participate. This is why many autistic people fail in fitting in, their brains simply cannot handle processing so many varied and subtle emotional expectations and so they tend to fail many of the social tests that NT people impose on them as a barrier to entry into the social group

I’m probably the most socially savvy yet socially discordant person in any situation. This comes from primarily my lack of desire to fit in as opposed to an inability to fit in. I gain easy entry into social groups because I can easily identify and respond to the social tests but I see NT people as lesser and place little value on them so continuously forcing myself to comply with their social rules is not valuable to me. I’d rather blow up a social situation by attempting to make it more entertaining to me than conform and be bored

This also translates into low inhib btw

Anyway, this leads to many funny situations of people shit testing me in social situations because they can see I’m not conforming to the social norms. When most people see someone not conforming to social norms and creating an uncomfortable environment, their first thought is that the person is simply unable to conform to social norms because their are defective (autistic in the real way not the internet way) and so try to oust them. For an NT person, seeing someone like this in a social group is an opportunity to gain value by either being the hero who saves the social group from the non NT persons uncomfortable presence or by using said person as a punching bag to boost their own value.

Many NT normies have tried this on me only to embarrass themselves when I inevitably flip the situation back on its head and make them the butt of the joke or force them into uncomfortable social confrontations they weren’t prepared for. This is something you learn from PUA and is the basis of Owen Cook’s segment on “how to deal with an AMOG” in the book “The Game” by Neil Strauss (ya know the place where the term mog came from)

Being non NT doesn’t mean you can’t fit in, but it will be harder to fit in

Either because you are actually autistic and your brain is incapable of keeping up in an NT social circle

Or

Because you are sociopathic with a high IQ (often labeled as autism on the internet) and thus find it boring to conform to NT social expectations (ie: the average NT normie is incapable of keeping up with you)

iqs me

 

[Alucard69]

This depends

I’m very neurodivergent but can easily hang out with NT people and fit in

I’m so neurodivergent that I constantly have people tell me that I’m “different” and “eccentric” and “odd” yet I never had a problem fitting in

In high school I was one of the cooler kids and was rather popular

The labels however came because I have a hard time keeping up the NT mask forever. I just find NT conversation incredibly boring and low energy and so tend to try and direct it towards my interests which are often unconventional

However this has never really been a problem for me because #1 I’m GL so I have a looks halo and #2 I can play NT social games and pass NT social tests

NT social groups have certain emotional expectations that must be met if you are to participate. This is why many autistic people fail in fitting in, their brains simply cannot handle processing so many varied and subtle emotional expectations and so they tend to fail many of the social tests that NT people impose on them as a barrier to entry into the social group

I’m probably the most socially savvy yet socially discordant person in any situation. This comes from primarily my lack of desire to fit in as opposed to an inability to fit in. I gain easy entry into social groups because I can easily identify and respond to the social tests but I see NT people as lesser and place little value on them so continuously forcing myself to comply with their social rules is not valuable to me. I’d rather blow up a social situation by attempting to make it more entertaining to me than conform and be bored

This also translates into low inhib btw

Anyway, this leads to many funny situations of people shit testing me in social situations because they can see I’m not conforming to the social norms. When most people see someone not conforming to social norms and creating an uncomfortable environment, their first thought is that the person is simply unable to conform to social norms because their are defective (autistic in the real way not the internet way) and so try to oust them. For an NT person, seeing someone like this in a social group is an opportunity to gain value by either being the hero who saves the social group from the non NT persons uncomfortable presence or by using said person as a punching bag to boost their own value.

Many NT normies have tried this on me only to embarrass themselves when I inevitably flip the situation back on its head and make them the butt of the joke or force them into uncomfortable social confrontations they weren’t prepared for. This is something you learn from PUA and is the basis of Owen Cook’s segment on “how to deal with an AMOG” in the book “The Game” by Neil Strauss (ya know the place where the term mog came from)

Being non NT doesn’t mean you can’t fit in, but it will be harder to fit in

Either because you are actually autistic and your brain is incapable of keeping up in an NT social circle

Or

Because you are sociopathic with a high IQ (often labeled as autism on the internet) and thus find it boring to conform to NT social expectations (ie: the average NT normie is incapable of keeping up with you)

Having a hard time 'fitting in' isn't about not understanding others or not being able to see the 'social cues', atleast to me. It's just the feeling of uncomfortability in social situations, even if i were more than aware of everything social happening around me. Maybe you just didn't get this trait tbh.

Also the fact you are goodlooking for sure plays a role, i'm not an overt blackpiller but it does allow you to be more comfortable in yourself for sure. Facial features will make the perception towards you pretty different depending on them and literally somewhat assign you a role (not just even only a matter of being GL or not).

 

[hypernormie]

Having a hard time 'fitting in' isn't about not understanding others or not being able to see the 'social cues', atleast to me. It's just the feeling of uncomfortability in social situations, even if i were more than aware of everything social happening around me. Maybe you just didn't get this trait tbh.

Also the fact you are goodlooking for sure plays a role, i'm not an overt blackpiller but it does allow you to be more comfortable in yourself for sure. Facial features will make the perception towards you pretty different depending on them and literally somewhat assign you a role (not just even only a matter of being GL or not).

I guess another possibility is someone who is just uncomfortable with strangers due to having reservations about being vulnerable but there’s really no other reason someone would be uncomfortable socially. Even if you are aware of everything you have to have a brain capable of responding adequately to what you are aware of. I currently am less socially capable because I have a neck injury that causes a very odd but pervasive discomfort throughout my head which interferes greatly with my ability to think clearly and has thus reduced my social skills considerably. Even though I am still highly aware of what’s happening in my social environment, I no longer am capable of dealing with the stimulus as skillfully as I used to. For the first time since high school, I’ve regained social anxiety, mainly because for the first time since high school I now may fail to keep up in social situations.

and yes being GL helps. You walk around with a certain level of confidence when you know you look good. Even just looking in the mirror can be pleasurable when you’re handsome. Sometimes I look in the mirror and feel grateful for how I look and think how bad it would be to look and see something I dislike.

 

[Alucard69]

I guess another possibility is someone who is just uncomfortable with strangers due to having reservations about being vulnerable but there’s really no other reason someone would be uncomfortable socially.

But here's the thing, try not to socialize for a long time, you will feel infinitely more awkward in social situations (my experience). You haven't forgotten 'how to act' it's just feelings of anxiety, nervousness, but idk maybe vulnerability is at the root of it all, atleast it's a part of what i explained for sure.

Even if you are aware of everything you have to have a brain capable of responding adequately to what you are aware of. I currently am less socially capable because I have a neck injury that causes a very odd but pervasive discomfort throughout my head which interferes greatly with my ability to think clearly and has thus reduced my social skills considerably. Even though I am still highly aware of what’s happening in my social environment, I no longer am capable of dealing with the stimulus as skillfully as I used to. For the first time since high school, I’ve regained social anxiety, mainly because for the first time since high school I now may fail to keep up in social situations.

You can look at a situation objectively and know what you should do, but still not do it.

and yes being GL helps. You walk around with a certain level of confidence when you know you look good. Even just looking in the mirror can be pleasurable when you’re handsome. Sometimes I look in the mirror and feel grateful for how I look and think how bad it would be to look and see something I dislike.

100%, i had a huge insecurity and blackpill phase, luckily i grew out of it, and realized how stupid i was for caring too much and focusing on negative

 

[saint]

Welcome to the club

 

[hypernormie]

But here's the thing, try not to socialize for a long time, you will feel infinitely more awkward in social situations (my experience). You haven't forgotten 'how to act' it's just feelings of anxiety, nervousness, but idk maybe vulnerability is at the root of it all, atleast it's a part of what i explained for sure.

Thats my point though, if your brain can handle the situation you wouldn’t feel any anxiety. Anxiety is happening because your brain feels on some level that something significant is occurring and you have the potential to fail at that thing. People don’t feel anxiety or at least feel very little anxiety about things they are confidently good at doing.

You can look at a situation objectively and know what you should do, but still not do it.

That’s your brain failing to do what you want it to do. If you know something is the right decision, have the ability to make the right decision and fail to make the right decision, that is your brain being incapable of making the right decision. In my first explanation I explained this is the reason some people fail in social situations, they may know what to do but simply be unable to keep up. Part of keeping up is being able to actually engage socially in real time when it matters. There are a lot of autistic people who understand social interactions too but just can’t keep up so to speak. They feel the right emotions at the wrong time, take too long to form responses but the response they did form would have been a good one had they thought a little faster, or may say the right thing with the wrong emotional tone, etc. idk if that’s your problem but it sounds similar.

100%, i had a huge insecurity and blackpill phase, luckily i grew out of it, and realized how stupid i was for caring too much and focusing on negative

I mean blackpill is what it is, you gotta just max out what you can as much as you can. Thats really all there is to it. For some it will never be enough but most don’t know until they try.

 

[Alucard69]

Thats my point though, if your brain can handle the situation you wouldn’t feel any anxiety. Anxiety is happening because your brain feels on some level that something significant is occurring and you have the potential to fail at that thing. People don’t feel anxiety or at least feel very little anxiety about things they are confidently good at doing.


That’s your brain failing to do what you want it to do. If you know something is the right decision, have the ability to make the right decision and fail to make the right decision, that is your brain being incapable of making the right decision. In my first explanation I explained this is the reason some people fail in social situations, they may know what to do but simply be unable to keep up. Part of keeping up is being able to actually engage socially in real time when it matters. There are a lot of autistic people who understand social interactions too but just can’t keep up so to speak. They feel the right emotions at the wrong time, take too long to form responses but the response they did form would have been a good one had they thought a little faster, or may say the right thing with the wrong emotional tone, etc. idk if that’s your problem but it sounds similar.


I mean blackpill is what it is, you gotta just max out what you can as much as you can. Thats really all there is to it. For some it will never be enough but most don’t know until they try.

Then how do you explain potential drug usage destroying social deficits? Do you explain that by eliminating 'vulnerability' i.e blocking the parts of the brain that work negatively and might give you anxiety. But you said in your original thread, 'incapable of processing social clues properly', then how come drugs can make you feel these cues 'properly', but i probably am comparing apples and oranges here, and may not be due to autism at that point, but i feel it's related for alot of high functioning ones. I think 'vulnerability' however u define it is a big part of being non-nt.

But yeah u are right, it's impossible to argue against because we are our brains anyway

 

[hypernormie]

Then how do you explain potential drug usage destroying social deficits? Do you explain that by eliminating 'vulnerability' i.e blocking the parts of the brain that work negatively and might give you anxiety. But you said in your original thread, 'incapable of processing social clues properly', then how come drugs can make you feel these cues 'properly', but i probably am comparing apples and oranges here, and may not be due to autism at that point, but i feel it's related for alot of high functioning ones. I think 'vulnerability' however u define it is a big part of being non-nt.

But yeah u are right, it's impossible to argue against because we are our brains anyway

I never said the only reason someone may fail to socialize is due to being unable to process social cues cognitively. Drugs and alchohol allow tons of people to socialize better because they reduce their inhibition and allow them to react to social cues without anxiety and self consciousness getting in the way. Reducing self consciousness and anxiety may also help someone pay more attention to social cues.

I’m just saying if you are aware of social cues but still don’t react properly to them then it’s either your brain being unable to react properly or you are not interested in reacting properly whether intentionally (my case a lot of the time) or unintentionally (perhaps you don’t like opening up to strangers or something)

Drugs and alchohol tend to make me rather antisocial in the strictest sense of the word. I tend to become a dick to people because I tend to hold most people in very low esteem already which is then exacerbated by lowered inhibitions. For you however it may have the opposite effect and make you social if your problem is not feeling comfortable around other people due to high inhibitions.

 

[Alucard69]

I never said the only reason someone may fail to socialize is due to being unable to process social cues cognitively. Drugs and alchohol allow tons of people to socialize better because they reduce their inhibition and allow them to react to social cues without anxiety and self consciousness getting in the way. Reducing self consciousness and anxiety may also help someone pay more attention to social cues.

I’m just saying if you are aware of social cues but still don’t react properly to them then it’s either your brain being unable to react properly or you are not interested in reacting properly whether intentionally (my case a lot of the time) or unintentionally (perhaps you don’t like opening up to strangers or something)

True but there is no room for other options. Either you can't or won't (which includes tons of things in on itself). For example wouldn't you categorize being high inhib as "won't", because your brain is capable and you probably could do it with willpower or drugs, you just choose to not face it, it's your conscious choice.

Drugs and alchohol tend to make me rather antisocial in the strictest sense of the word. I tend to become a dick to people because I tend to hold most people in very low esteem already which is then exacerbated by lowered inhibitions. For you however it may have the opposite effect and make you social if your problem is not feeling comfortable around other people due to high inhibitions.

dark triad ass nigga

 

[hypernormie]

True but there is no room for other options. Either you can't or won't (which includes tons of things in on itself). For example wouldn't you categorize being high inhib as "won't", because your brain is capable and you probably could do it with willpower or drugs, you just choose to not face it, it's your conscious choice.

High inhib depends because some people have high inhib that they can remedy with exposure to stimulation and some people have high inhib that will remain high no matter what they do or is only remedied with drugs or alchohol.

My inhib was somewhat high when I entered high school for example but then I stumbled upon PUA and started cold approaching and my inhib went down to zero. For some people even after 1,000 cold approaches they are still going to be relatively high inhib.

So it’s a little bit of both at the end of the day but you never know until you try and change.

dark triad ass nigga

It’s actually a problem for me if I’m being real