The only guy to have fixed Downgrowth

[greycel]

Was also the only one to have gone from MTN to Terrachad

I'm surprised not a lot of people talk about how downgrown Salludon was.

How did he fix this?

@Dastan goes into something similar in this thread:

"Long Midface" misconception you are all still fooled by (explanation)

Here Drago has MFR of 0.97, which is "perfect", considering his head is tilted down, so likely around 1:1 if his head was aligned in F. plane: Now if we just make his midface longer = he looks a bit worse, 0.9 MFR (could be the end of the argument, cos he still looks good, but thats not it)...

looksmax.org

 

[joan]

Was also the only one to have gone from MTN to Terrachad

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I'm surprised not a lot of people talk about how downgrown Salludon was.

How did he fix this?

@Dastan goes into something similar in this thread:

"Long Midface" misconception you are all still fooled by (explanation)

Here Drago has MFR of 0.97, which is "perfect", considering his head is tilted down, so likely around 1:1 if his head was aligned in F. plane: Now if we just make his midface longer = he looks a bit worse, 0.9 MFR (could be the end of the argument, cos he still looks good, but thats not it)...

looksmax.org

Surgery

 

[greycel]

Surgery

Yes but specifically to add width and lower third height (check linked thread)

Also he eliminated indicators of downward growth such as removing nose bump, projecting nasal base, and reducing mandibular to floor angle

 

[pepelkant]

Idrk tbh, looks like a bimax, but we dont see any screws in recent scans, so they must have removed screws, titanium and everything they inserted after his bones connected, browridge also grew and lower lip to chin looks better so he prolly blasted roids for these two

 

[anthony111553]

looked htn before ascenion

 

[joan]

Idrk tbh, looks like a bimax, but we dont see any screws in recent scans, so they must have removed screws, titanium and everything they inserted after his bones connected, browridge also grew and lower lip to chin looks better so he prolly blasted roids for these two

Roids don't change your ratios that much. These drugs are mostly cope. Also he for sure got surgery. Maybe he just showed another person's scan or did the thing you said

 

[pfl]

 

[pepelkant]

Roids don't change your ratios that much. These drugs are mostly cope. Also he for sure got surgery. Maybe he just showed another person's scan or did the thing you said

It looks like his skull, but roids definitely grow your browridge and chin

 

[greycel]

Idrk tbh, looks like a bimax, but we dont see any screws in recent scans, so they must have removed screws, titanium and everything they inserted after his bones connected, browridge also grew and lower lip to chin looks better so he prolly blasted roids for these two

I think his changes are congruent with fillers
Given his increased bone mass, width of chin change, nose bridge, hooding etc

 

[LegendaryKennen]

the change in the ogee area is fking nuts, he reversed his flat cheekbones too idk how.. can surgery even do that

 

[pepelkant]

I think his changes are congruent with fillers
Given his increased bone mass, width of chin change, nose bridge, hooding etc

It would have been seen in the scans unless they have been altered

 

[greycel]

the change in the ogee area is fking nuts, he reversed his flat cheekbones too idk how.. can surgery even do that

I read somewhere it has to do with anterior projection of zygos more than other factors
Of course gonion shape and jaw width contribute but I think zygo projection takes the cake

His extra bonemass helped too, to stretch the soft tissue so he had perma hollow cheeks even though he isn't at a very low bodyfat

 

[greycel]

It would have been seen in the scans unless they have been altered

Apparently the scan he got is not capable to show fillers

 

[pepelkant]

Apparently the scan he got is not capable to show fillers

Hmm im not sure, i remember that only few areas were safe from it idk tho

 

[pentamogged9000]

i was extremely downward grown now i am 10% less

 

[greycel]

i was extremely downward grown now i am 10% less

What did you do?

 

[Deleted member 142050]

Rate this transformation

All mewing, thumbpulling, animal based diet

 

[Surfsup]

Atp Idk bro he even showed the scans

 

[Klasik616]

looked htn before ascenion

After, before is mtn

 

[greycel]

Atp Idk bro he even showed the scans

His scans won't show filler

 

[pentamogged9000]

What did you do?

chew and mew, barely makes a difference if you aren't on hormones

 

[william.]

he didn't even get surgery

 

[Zenis]

looked htn before ascenion

htn in mumbai where he lived yeah

 

[Torycel]

Was also the only one to have gone from MTN to Terrachad

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I'm surprised not a lot of people talk about how downgrown Salludon was.

How did he fix this?

@Dastan goes into something similar in this thread:

"Long Midface" misconception you are all still fooled by (explanation)

Here Drago has MFR of 0.97, which is "perfect", considering his head is tilted down, so likely around 1:1 if his head was aligned in F. plane: Now if we just make his midface longer = he looks a bit worse, 0.9 MFR (could be the end of the argument, cos he still looks good, but thats not it)...

looksmax.org

this asian guy also:

 

[kana]

he was above mtn

 

[registerfasterusing]

Yes but specifically to add width and lower third height (check linked thread)

Also he eliminated indicators of downward growth such as removing nose bump, projecting nasal base, and reducing mandibular to floor angle

So adding mass to the lower third removes the illusion of a long midface?

 

[VrillFatNoob24]

How did he fix this?

hard mewing












... and surgery

 

[GenerationalAutism]

his lips look so fucking goofy in the after pics lol

 

[greycel]

So adding mass to the lower third removes the illusion of a long midface?

He also got rhino and projected nasal base so it looks less long frontally

 

[Water Bomb]

So adding mass to the lower third removes the illusion of a long midface?

Yes.

 

[registerfasterusing]

He also got rhino and projected nasal base so it looks less long frontally

Projected nasal base? Like lf1?

 

[registerfasterusing]

He also got rhino and projected nasal base so it looks less long frontally

Or js the tip of the nose going forward thru rhino or filler or wtv

 

[registerfasterusing]

Projected nasal base? Like lf1?

Or js the tip of the nose going forward thru rhino or filler or wtv

Sorry for all the tags but could u answer this pls @greycel

 

[looksmaxxed]

mewing and expanders.

 

[greycel]

Projected nasal base?

So they are two different things

Look at the red dot. Projecting nasal base pushes the farther out (the start of the nose)
The type of rhino you're thinking of does what the blue line would do.. but the nasal base (start of nose) remains in the same place.. just the horizontal distance has increased
Like this guy:

Where his nose starts is still the same

 

[registerfasterusing]

So they are two different things
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Look at the red dot. Projecting nasal base pushes the farther out (the start of the nose)
The type of rhino you're thinking of does what the blue line would do.. but the nasal base (start of nose) remains in the same place.. just the horizontal distance has increased
Like this guy:
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Where his nose starts is still the same

So which surgery projects the nasal base forward

 

[greycel]

So which surgery projects the nasal base forward

Depends if you need it
But many, paranasal implants, cartilage grafts (can be done with rhino iirc), u shaped osteotomy (pretty rare), LF1

Fat grafting can also but not worth