The post that knocked 6ft4's socks off

[6ft4]

I believe it was lookism where I read this post
I had to save it immediately and add it to my signature because it was possibly the best written normie dissection I had read.
I will always come back to this post to remind myself of a concise summary of normie sociopathy

(In this context high tier normie doesn't refer to the looks ranking as that category didn't exist yet, rather it was meant to refer to a highly effective normie)

Even the most "blackpilled" gore watching Machiavellian person on the deep net don't even close to the depravity of a high tier normie. Forum users have too much self awareness to act like a sociopath, its faked and they're conscious tears them up inside. Normies have been doing it instinctively since day 1 so they don't even have hang ups

They're basically constantly manipulating each other, lying, cheating(both kinds), talking behind people's backs, slandering, out for themselves. You basically have to read between the lines when interact with them. Half of what people say are half truths.

Aspies are fucked because they tend to be honest and straight forward . If you make your intentions clear with words in any situation you're fucked beyond repair.

The more sociopathic and dopamine + power chasing you are the closer you get to approximating normie behavior. High empathy is not an NT trait at all and if you're naive and big hearted this world will fuck you in the ass until suicide because you let it

 

[infini]

I am not sure. Mainly due to how you before emphasised how Slavic females or other higher quality ones, can be subverted and that requires empathy.

 

[irrumator praetor]

High empathy is not an NT trait at all and if you're naive and big hearted this world will fuck you in the ass until suicide because you let it

Yes, it is, NTs sense it more and better. Its just used opportunistically, or abused for profit.

High empathy = better manipulation capability (like having a brand new laser system on air defense lol)

It is contradictory to both say 1) normies are master manipulators 2) they have no empathy (what, like a shark without the ability to sense blood in the water? or a blind tiger? jfl)

You may argue its contradictory to state someone with high empathy may be manipulative and harmful. But you fail to see that empathy for the benefit and success of oneself outweighs the empathy for strangers who have nothing to do with you. I empathize more with the wellbeing and benefit of myself over others. Comparable to: kill or be killed. I wouldn't die for your benefit, or think twice before killing you for mine. (Just hypothetical examples of course nothing here is literal or truly meant by me)

 

[6ft4]

Yes, it is, NTs sense it more and better. Its just used opportunistically, or abused for profit.

High empathy = better manipulation capability (like having a brand new laser system on air defense lol)

It is contradictory to both say 1) normies are master manipulators 2) they have no empathy (what, like a shark without the ability to sense blood in the water? or a blind tiger? jfl)

You may argue its contradictory to state someone with high empathy may be manipulative and harmful. But you fail to see that empathy for the benefit and success of oneself outweighs the empathy for strangers who have nothing to do with you. I empathize more with the wellbeing and benefit of myself over others. Comparable to: kill or be killed. I wouldn't die for your benefit, or think twice before killing you for mine. (Just hypothetical examples of course nothing here is literal or truly meant by me)

here's a chatgpt response for you because I'm too lazy to use the brain power required to critique it myself:

1. What empathy actually means
Empathy is the ability to understand and/or feel what other people are experiencing. Psychologists usually break it into:

• Cognitive empathy → understanding someone else’s perspective
• Affective empathy → actually feeling concern or emotional resonance with them

“Empathizing with yourself” isn’t really empathy—it’s just self-interest or self-awareness.

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2. The confusion in that response
The reply is blending together three different things:

• Empathy
• Self-interest
• Manipulation

When it says:

“High empathy = better manipulation capability”

There is a grain of truth—but it’s incomplete:

• Someone with high cognitive empathy can read people well → which can be used to manipulate
• But high empathy overall (especially affective empathy) usually inhibits harming others, not enables it

So:

• A skilled manipulator often has good cognitive empathy + low emotional concern
• That’s not “high empathy” in the full sense—it's a selective ability

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3. The contradiction you pointed out is valid
You’re right to question this:

“Harming others for your own benefit = high empathy”

That’s basically backwards.


If someone consistently harms others without concern:

• That suggests low affective empathy
• Not high empathy

Prioritizing yourself is normal.
But being willing to harm others without hesitation usually indicates a lack of empathic concern, not an abundance of it.

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4. Where the response kind of has a point
This part:

“people can use empathy opportunistically”

That’s fair. Some people:

• Understand others well
• Use that insight strategically

But again, that’s:

• empathy as a tool (cognitive)
• not empathy as compassion (affective)

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Bottom line
Your intuition is solid:

• Empathy ≠ self-prioritization
• Empathy ≠ willingness to harm others
• True high empathy (especially emotional empathy) generally reduces harmful behavior

The response isn’t completely nonsense, but it’s conceptually sloppy and uses “empathy” in a misleading way.

 

[EmperorVon]

Truth Nuke, normies have low self awareness so they go along with whatever the current cultural zeitgeist is, now that means being a limp dick faggot but a hundred years ago it meant being genocidal

 

[irrumator praetor]

But high empathy overall (especially affective empathy) usually inhibits harming others, not enables it

as per self interest in the game of collective ingroup morality
otherwise, not true

That’s basically backwards.

FUCK YOU CHATGPT!

But being willing to harm others without hesitation usually indicates a lack of empathic concern, not an abundance of it.

CopeGPT

 

[irrumator praetor]

Truth Nuke, normies have low self awareness so they go along with whatever the current cultural zeitgeist is, now that means being a limp dick faggot but a hundred years ago it meant being genocidal

ND autist copenuke... sorry

NORMIES UBER ALLES, total normie supremacy/victory over ND fags

satanic normie NWO