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"The birth of Incelius Maximus" (69th post)
This should be a water thread, but any potential replies will show you that it isn’t. It's contradictory when users will say: "w-why put in so much effort into threads it's just an incel site bro". Yet at the same time they care about being liked and building a reputation on the same aforementioned "incel" site. Apparently users also "repfarm" here. Can't believe that's a thing holy shit. Don't know why people think actively networking here to make a name for themselves isn't two sides of the same coin when it comes to effort. Sounds like a cope some users make to deep down hide the futility of using this site to build the foundation of their so-called "legacy".
Some users try here to blackpill people they know IRL to desperately sound “smart” and make a name for themselves outside this site. But let's be real, it's more of a hit to a man's "legacy" in the mainstream if they were revealed to be one of the biggest posters on .org than it is having a cuckeddit fetish account with 1 million+ karma from posting porn/hentai. There’s a reason they holocausted most if not all incel subreddits there yet allowed porn/hentai ones to continue thriving. Ironically, those subreddits are also a loophole to be misogynistic, where women there beg for "orc monster cock" and guys roleplay as the orc. Also you get to call women there “females” without them getting screechy.
The fame system
The harsh reality that most people won't swallow is that we live in a system that demands people to give up something of their own (more than ever), dignity, time, effort, you name it, in exchange for validation and even survival. Often some users here falsely believe that the blackpill has gone mainstream and think that it has the potential to pervade the collective consciousness (the amount of bluepilled cucks even on here proves otherwise). But that can really only happen if the men wielding power actually allow it to happen. And the values among the people in power have changed drastically in the past 200 years. No matter how profound your ideas are, it won’t matter if the people in power don’t want them to be accepted by the mainstream.
“B-but you’re a sellout if you pursue fame in the mainstream”. Chances are, to reach notable fame anywhere without external intervention, you need to betray your own values and principles and cater to the ideals of the majority (ideals that are often pretty braindead anyway), mainly through grifting. Those who acquired micro-celeb status on BP (blackpill) spaces have compromised their privacy by showing their face. And pretty much all those micro “celebs” are good-looking and have built their fame without contributing anything of substance, and are devoid of actual values. Thus further solidifying the looks blackpill. Yet at the same time, they’re basically discount models but with notoriety written on their backs. The problem is that fame built on incel ideology as the foundation has a hard cap and carries a lot of negative stigma.
Notoriety over glory
It’s nearly impossible to gain any widespread recognition trying to stay true to oneself and spreading the rawest truths imaginable in every direction. Even someone like Dbdr with a couple of tens of thousands of subs on Youtube is already considered the Caesar equivalent in BP spaces JFL. Getting anywhere close to 100k subs on Youtube, making purely BP content is already miraculous. Yet they’re probably still making only minimum wage from it or living in their car. Once you have built your foundation of fame here, any recognition in the mainstream would be one of notoriety rather than glory. I’m not saying to fold the moment you get any pushback from spreading the truth. But I do think a lot of users here overestimate the potential impact and ceiling that the BP has in the mainstream. They probably imagine blackpillers have the potential to be some 1:1 equivalent to the Hollywood elites, like some grand scale battle between “Team Jews” and “Team BP”. The term "blackpill celebrity" is an oxymoron since “smoke and mirrors” are an essential element of stardom.
Why becoming “legendary” is nearly impossible in today’s era
The landscape and era one is born in heavily dictate the extent of their influence and impact on the world. If Alexander the Great was born today, the impact he would leave in this alternative reality would pale in comparison to the actual legacy he left behind. The existence of nuclear deterrence alone in today's era would put his conquest attempt to an immediate halt. Not to mention the world being interconnected through alliances that ensure unilateral conquest is nearly impossible.
Though you could argue that he'd still make a name for himself regardless, given his innate character. Maybe becoming a figure like Zuckerberg, Musk or Gates, and the most obvious next step pursuing political leadership. But then again, the potential ceiling for individual impact has significantly dropped to the point where it's no longer possible to truly monopolize the collective consciousness. It is especially so in an increasingly globalized, decentralized and interconnected society, unlike any point in history. Not to mention the era Alexander was born in played a huge part in granting him a mythical, legendary and almost certainly an idealized reputation and legacy. Back in such an antique era, it's not far-fetched to say that plenty of details could've been exaggerated or "larped".
Greatness does not exist in a vacuum. The era you're born in heavily dictates the societal value your labour and talents possess. In a way, you're only as great as the stage history hands you. It's why I cringe so hard when some users here hype and compare themselves to those ancient figures. It would already be ridiculous to do so even if you were a modern day celeb, let alone rotting on an incel site. Thus, how can it be anything more than an edgy teenage fantasy? They’re as delusional as the women they complain about.
I theorize that the change and impact that blackpillers will have is silent and unheralded. Blackpill ideas could still subconsciously be accepted over time if presented in a more digestible manner, especially analogies that don’t allude to the manosphere. Subtlety is the key here while retaining the logic of the blackpill. This means there won't be any key figures that gain mainstream respect like philosophers did in the past. Silent change is all we can hope for.
Act bluepilled, think redpilled, be blackpilled
TL;DR: This is a meta-critique: a blackpill on the blackpill itself. There is a contradiction I’ve noticed on this site where users dismiss effort yet actively chase validation through “repfarming”. The brutal reality is that a gooner with 1 mil karma from posting porn/hentai on cuckeddit probably has more social leverage in the mainstream than a top poster here. Maximizing fame in general requires the constant compromising of principles, or in other words, perpetual self-cuckoldry. Doing so here is even more futile given that it results in notoriety rather than glory outside this site. The interconnectedness of society and power structures of today limit the ceiling of individual impact. Thus, mimicking the legendary status of Alexander the Great today is basically impossible, no matter how talented or skillful you are. There likely won’t be any blackpill figureheads in the mainstream, and the only hope for the ideas to spread is ditching the manosphere branding.
The spiritual predecessor to this thread below:
looksmax.org
@TiktokUser @bloomercel @Spookybah @(-__-+) @Aviddegree40571
This should be a water thread, but any potential replies will show you that it isn’t. It's contradictory when users will say: "w-why put in so much effort into threads it's just an incel site bro". Yet at the same time they care about being liked and building a reputation on the same aforementioned "incel" site. Apparently users also "repfarm" here. Can't believe that's a thing holy shit. Don't know why people think actively networking here to make a name for themselves isn't two sides of the same coin when it comes to effort. Sounds like a cope some users make to deep down hide the futility of using this site to build the foundation of their so-called "legacy".
Some users try here to blackpill people they know IRL to desperately sound “smart” and make a name for themselves outside this site. But let's be real, it's more of a hit to a man's "legacy" in the mainstream if they were revealed to be one of the biggest posters on .org than it is having a cuckeddit fetish account with 1 million+ karma from posting porn/hentai. There’s a reason they holocausted most if not all incel subreddits there yet allowed porn/hentai ones to continue thriving. Ironically, those subreddits are also a loophole to be misogynistic, where women there beg for "orc monster cock" and guys roleplay as the orc. Also you get to call women there “females” without them getting screechy.
The fame system
The harsh reality that most people won't swallow is that we live in a system that demands people to give up something of their own (more than ever), dignity, time, effort, you name it, in exchange for validation and even survival. Often some users here falsely believe that the blackpill has gone mainstream and think that it has the potential to pervade the collective consciousness (the amount of bluepilled cucks even on here proves otherwise). But that can really only happen if the men wielding power actually allow it to happen. And the values among the people in power have changed drastically in the past 200 years. No matter how profound your ideas are, it won’t matter if the people in power don’t want them to be accepted by the mainstream.
“B-but you’re a sellout if you pursue fame in the mainstream”. Chances are, to reach notable fame anywhere without external intervention, you need to betray your own values and principles and cater to the ideals of the majority (ideals that are often pretty braindead anyway), mainly through grifting. Those who acquired micro-celeb status on BP (blackpill) spaces have compromised their privacy by showing their face. And pretty much all those micro “celebs” are good-looking and have built their fame without contributing anything of substance, and are devoid of actual values. Thus further solidifying the looks blackpill. Yet at the same time, they’re basically discount models but with notoriety written on their backs. The problem is that fame built on incel ideology as the foundation has a hard cap and carries a lot of negative stigma.
Notoriety over glory
It’s nearly impossible to gain any widespread recognition trying to stay true to oneself and spreading the rawest truths imaginable in every direction. Even someone like Dbdr with a couple of tens of thousands of subs on Youtube is already considered the Caesar equivalent in BP spaces JFL. Getting anywhere close to 100k subs on Youtube, making purely BP content is already miraculous. Yet they’re probably still making only minimum wage from it or living in their car. Once you have built your foundation of fame here, any recognition in the mainstream would be one of notoriety rather than glory. I’m not saying to fold the moment you get any pushback from spreading the truth. But I do think a lot of users here overestimate the potential impact and ceiling that the BP has in the mainstream. They probably imagine blackpillers have the potential to be some 1:1 equivalent to the Hollywood elites, like some grand scale battle between “Team Jews” and “Team BP”. The term "blackpill celebrity" is an oxymoron since “smoke and mirrors” are an essential element of stardom.
Why becoming “legendary” is nearly impossible in today’s era
The landscape and era one is born in heavily dictate the extent of their influence and impact on the world. If Alexander the Great was born today, the impact he would leave in this alternative reality would pale in comparison to the actual legacy he left behind. The existence of nuclear deterrence alone in today's era would put his conquest attempt to an immediate halt. Not to mention the world being interconnected through alliances that ensure unilateral conquest is nearly impossible.
Though you could argue that he'd still make a name for himself regardless, given his innate character. Maybe becoming a figure like Zuckerberg, Musk or Gates, and the most obvious next step pursuing political leadership. But then again, the potential ceiling for individual impact has significantly dropped to the point where it's no longer possible to truly monopolize the collective consciousness. It is especially so in an increasingly globalized, decentralized and interconnected society, unlike any point in history. Not to mention the era Alexander was born in played a huge part in granting him a mythical, legendary and almost certainly an idealized reputation and legacy. Back in such an antique era, it's not far-fetched to say that plenty of details could've been exaggerated or "larped".
Greatness does not exist in a vacuum. The era you're born in heavily dictates the societal value your labour and talents possess. In a way, you're only as great as the stage history hands you. It's why I cringe so hard when some users here hype and compare themselves to those ancient figures. It would already be ridiculous to do so even if you were a modern day celeb, let alone rotting on an incel site. Thus, how can it be anything more than an edgy teenage fantasy? They’re as delusional as the women they complain about.
I theorize that the change and impact that blackpillers will have is silent and unheralded. Blackpill ideas could still subconsciously be accepted over time if presented in a more digestible manner, especially analogies that don’t allude to the manosphere. Subtlety is the key here while retaining the logic of the blackpill. This means there won't be any key figures that gain mainstream respect like philosophers did in the past. Silent change is all we can hope for.
Act bluepilled, think redpilled, be blackpilled
TL;DR: This is a meta-critique: a blackpill on the blackpill itself. There is a contradiction I’ve noticed on this site where users dismiss effort yet actively chase validation through “repfarming”. The brutal reality is that a gooner with 1 mil karma from posting porn/hentai on cuckeddit probably has more social leverage in the mainstream than a top poster here. Maximizing fame in general requires the constant compromising of principles, or in other words, perpetual self-cuckoldry. Doing so here is even more futile given that it results in notoriety rather than glory outside this site. The interconnectedness of society and power structures of today limit the ceiling of individual impact. Thus, mimicking the legendary status of Alexander the Great today is basically impossible, no matter how talented or skillful you are. There likely won’t be any blackpill figureheads in the mainstream, and the only hope for the ideas to spread is ditching the manosphere branding.
The spiritual predecessor to this thread below:
If you feel weighed down by this site, it might be a sign you subconsciously romanticize it
When I mean “romanticize”, I don’t mean to personify the site as a woman and imagine you fucking it. Although you can think of it that way if it’s easier for you to understand. Rather it’s about attributing more meaning to the site than it “deserves”. Holding onto an idealized, distorted version...
looksmax.org
@TiktokUser @bloomercel @Spookybah @(-__-+) @Aviddegree40571
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