The Red Queen Hypothesis: Why Looksmaxxing is now a duty, not an advantage (Analysis from a 3rd World Sub-5)

[Room 1408]

I am a Greycel from a third-world country. My English is broken, so I used ChatGPT to make this readable. But the pain behind these words is real.

The situation here is beyond parody. The Blackpill has gone mainstream in the worst way possible.
We now have local larpers who are **carbon copies** of famous English blackpillers like **Ramus, Clavicular, and Cookie**. They just translate the content, act like prophets, and farm views from normies.

But here is the most **brutal** part that made me physically shiver:
Yesterday, I was in a local group chat. There was a girl there—my **oneitis**. A girl I actually had feelings for.
Suddenly, I saw her casually using deep forum terminology. She was talking about "mogging" and "hunter eyes."
I am not joking. My oneitis was using our lingo. Seeing her say those words was a reality check from hell. It terrified me to my core. I panicked, blocked everyone, and deleted the chat immediately.
I can't deal with normies anymore. I only feel safe here among you autistic incels because reality out there has become a nightmare.

The Algorithm* has destroyed everything, but I want to prove scientifically why this means it's over for us.

I am a sub-5, so I have no bias. Here is the reality:

**1. The Red Queen Hypothesis**
For those who don't know, this is an evolutionary hypothesis from *Alice in Wonderland*: "Now, here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place."
This is exactly what is happening to the dating market.

**2. The Shift from 80/20 to 95/5**
The standards are inflating brutally.
* **MTN is the new LTN.**
* **LTN is the new Sub-5.**
The Pareto distribution is shifting. Soon, 95% of men will be invisible to foids.

**3. Looksmaxxing is Zero-Sum**
Because of the Red Queen effect, "Softmaxxing" is no longer special—it’s the baseline.
Taking Accutane, using Finasteride, or wearing sunscreen isn't considered "gay" anymore. Every zoomer is doing it.
This means an LTN might looksmax to become an MTN, but since *everyone else* is also improving, his relative standing doesn't change. Even if you get nose surgery (Hardmax), you are just running to stay in the same place. It is mandatory just to exist.

**4. Why I (a Sub-5) still Looksmax**
I know the future is dark. Greys and Bluepilled users try to cope, but we know it's over.
We sub-5s (future subhumans) have two options: **Ropemaxx** or **Looksmax**.
I chose looksmaxxing, but NOT to get foids. That dream is dead. Even Chadlites are struggling now.

**The Real Reason to Looksmax for Sub-5s:**
I looksmax to survive against **Dark Triad** predators.
As a sub-5, I am a magnet for bullying. At the gym, at work, on the street—people treat me like trash because of the Horn Effect. Dark Triad individuals sense my genetic inferiority and attack.
The only way to breathe in this society as an incel is to looksmax enough to become "invisible" to these predators, not to become visible to foids.

**Conclusion:**
Accept your inceldom. The Blackpill is mainstream because capitalism and female hypergamy have destroyed the world. The incel population will explode in the future. I am just trying to survive the fallout.

 

[TopTierIncel42]

dnr + there is a language section

 

[luuk]

I am a Greycel from a third-world country. My English is broken, so I used ChatGPT to make this readable. But the pain behind these words is real.

The situation here is beyond parody. The Blackpill has gone mainstream in the worst way possible.
We now have local larpers who are **carbon copies** of famous English blackpillers like **Ramus, Clavicular, and Cookie**. They just translate the content, act like prophets, and farm views from normies.

But here is the most **brutal** part that made me physically shiver:
Yesterday, I was in a local group chat. There was a girl there—my **oneitis**. A girl I actually had feelings for.
Suddenly, I saw her casually using deep forum terminology. She was talking about "mogging" and "hunter eyes."
I am not joking. My oneitis was using our lingo. Seeing her say those words was a reality check from hell. It terrified me to my core. I panicked, blocked everyone, and deleted the chat immediately.
I can't deal with normies anymore. I only feel safe here among you autistic incels because reality out there has become a nightmare.

The Algorithm* has destroyed everything, but I want to prove scientifically why this means it's over for us.

I am a sub-5, so I have no bias. Here is the reality:

**1. The Red Queen Hypothesis**
For those who don't know, this is an evolutionary hypothesis from *Alice in Wonderland*: "Now, here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place."
This is exactly what is happening to the dating market.

**2. The Shift from 80/20 to 95/5**
The standards are inflating brutally.
* **MTN is the new LTN.**
* **LTN is the new Sub-5.**
The Pareto distribution is shifting. Soon, 95% of men will be invisible to foids.

**3. Looksmaxxing is Zero-Sum**
Because of the Red Queen effect, "Softmaxxing" is no longer special—it’s the baseline.
Taking Accutane, using Finasteride, or wearing sunscreen isn't considered "gay" anymore. Every zoomer is doing it.
This means an LTN might looksmax to become an MTN, but since *everyone else* is also improving, his relative standing doesn't change. Even if you get nose surgery (Hardmax), you are just running to stay in the same place. It is mandatory just to exist.

**4. Why I (a Sub-5) still Looksmax**
I know the future is dark. Greys and Bluepilled users try to cope, but we know it's over.
We sub-5s (future subhumans) have two options: **Ropemaxx** or **Looksmax**.
I chose looksmaxxing, but NOT to get foids. That dream is dead. Even Chadlites are struggling now.

**The Real Reason to Looksmax for Sub-5s:**
I looksmax to survive against **Dark Triad** predators.
As a sub-5, I am a magnet for bullying. At the gym, at work, on the street—people treat me like trash because of the Horn Effect. Dark Triad individuals sense my genetic inferiority and attack.
The only way to breathe in this society as an incel is to looksmax enough to become "invisible" to these predators, not to become visible to foids.

**Conclusion:**
Accept your inceldom. The Blackpill is mainstream because capitalism and female hypergamy have destroyed the world. The incel population will explode in the future. I am just trying to survive the fallout.

Why does everyone here believe "bp is mainstream" and that looks inflation is actually a thing jfl
Again, normies know surface level terminology and old memes and maybe basic softmaxxing is marginally more prevalent but very few people take this seriously

 

[pope]

Don't be afraid of the so called dark triad niggers either. So many times I've found these people to be utter fucking PUSSIES when push came to shove

But yeah

We're fucked

 

[Coping Truecel]

I am a Greycel from a third-world country. My English is broken, so I used ChatGPT to make this readable. But the pain behind these words is real.

The situation here is beyond parody. The Blackpill has gone mainstream in the worst way possible.
We now have local larpers who are **carbon copies** of famous English blackpillers like **Ramus, Clavicular, and Cookie**. They just translate the content, act like prophets, and farm views from normies.

But here is the most **brutal** part that made me physically shiver:
Yesterday, I was in a local group chat. There was a girl there—my **oneitis**. A girl I actually had feelings for.
Suddenly, I saw her casually using deep forum terminology. She was talking about "mogging" and "hunter eyes."
I am not joking. My oneitis was using our lingo. Seeing her say those words was a reality check from hell. It terrified me to my core. I panicked, blocked everyone, and deleted the chat immediately.
I can't deal with normies anymore. I only feel safe here among you autistic incels because reality out there has become a nightmare.

The Algorithm* has destroyed everything, but I want to prove scientifically why this means it's over for us.

I am a sub-5, so I have no bias. Here is the reality:

**1. The Red Queen Hypothesis**
For those who don't know, this is an evolutionary hypothesis from *Alice in Wonderland*: "Now, here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place."
This is exactly what is happening to the dating market.

**2. The Shift from 80/20 to 95/5**
The standards are inflating brutally.
* **MTN is the new LTN.**
* **LTN is the new Sub-5.**
The Pareto distribution is shifting. Soon, 95% of men will be invisible to foids.

**3. Looksmaxxing is Zero-Sum**
Because of the Red Queen effect, "Softmaxxing" is no longer special—it’s the baseline.
Taking Accutane, using Finasteride, or wearing sunscreen isn't considered "gay" anymore. Every zoomer is doing it.
This means an LTN might looksmax to become an MTN, but since *everyone else* is also improving, his relative standing doesn't change. Even if you get nose surgery (Hardmax), you are just running to stay in the same place. It is mandatory just to exist.

**4. Why I (a Sub-5) still Looksmax**
I know the future is dark. Greys and Bluepilled users try to cope, but we know it's over.
We sub-5s (future subhumans) have two options: **Ropemaxx** or **Looksmax**.
I chose looksmaxxing, but NOT to get foids. That dream is dead. Even Chadlites are struggling now.

**The Real Reason to Looksmax for Sub-5s:**
I looksmax to survive against **Dark Triad** predators.
As a sub-5, I am a magnet for bullying. At the gym, at work, on the street—people treat me like trash because of the Horn Effect. Dark Triad individuals sense my genetic inferiority and attack.
The only way to breathe in this society as an incel is to looksmax enough to become "invisible" to these predators, not to become visible to foids.

**Conclusion:**
Accept your inceldom. The Blackpill is mainstream because capitalism and female hypergamy have destroyed the world. The incel population will explode in the future. I am just trying to survive the fallout.

"BP going mainstream" meanwhile 74% of USA citizens are overweight/obese

 

[LTNUser]

You think normies care about self improvement or making their looks better?

"BP going mainstream" meanwhile 74% of USA citizens are overweight/obese

 

[TaperBoi808]

Leave it to 2025 and 2024cels to tell you that BP isn’t mainstream

 

[pandabuyslave]

I am a Greycel from a third-world country. My English is broken, so I used ChatGPT to make this readable. But the pain behind these words is real.

The situation here is beyond parody. The Blackpill has gone mainstream in the worst way possible.
We now have local larpers who are **carbon copies** of famous English blackpillers like **Ramus, Clavicular, and Cookie**. They just translate the content, act like prophets, and farm views from normies.

But here is the most **brutal** part that made me physically shiver:
Yesterday, I was in a local group chat. There was a girl there—my **oneitis**. A girl I actually had feelings for.
Suddenly, I saw her casually using deep forum terminology. She was talking about "mogging" and "hunter eyes."
I am not joking. My oneitis was using our lingo. Seeing her say those words was a reality check from hell. It terrified me to my core. I panicked, blocked everyone, and deleted the chat immediately.
I can't deal with normies anymore. I only feel safe here among you autistic incels because reality out there has become a nightmare.

The Algorithm* has destroyed everything, but I want to prove scientifically why this means it's over for us.

I am a sub-5, so I have no bias. Here is the reality:

**1. The Red Queen Hypothesis**
For those who don't know, this is an evolutionary hypothesis from *Alice in Wonderland*: "Now, here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place."
This is exactly what is happening to the dating market.

**2. The Shift from 80/20 to 95/5**
The standards are inflating brutally.
* **MTN is the new LTN.**
* **LTN is the new Sub-5.**
The Pareto distribution is shifting. Soon, 95% of men will be invisible to foids.

**3. Looksmaxxing is Zero-Sum**
Because of the Red Queen effect, "Softmaxxing" is no longer special—it’s the baseline.
Taking Accutane, using Finasteride, or wearing sunscreen isn't considered "gay" anymore. Every zoomer is doing it.
This means an LTN might looksmax to become an MTN, but since *everyone else* is also improving, his relative standing doesn't change. Even if you get nose surgery (Hardmax), you are just running to stay in the same place. It is mandatory just to exist.

**4. Why I (a Sub-5) still Looksmax**
I know the future is dark. Greys and Bluepilled users try to cope, but we know it's over.
We sub-5s (future subhumans) have two options: **Ropemaxx** or **Looksmax**.
I chose looksmaxxing, but NOT to get foids. That dream is dead. Even Chadlites are struggling now.

**The Real Reason to Looksmax for Sub-5s:**
I looksmax to survive against **Dark Triad** predators.
As a sub-5, I am a magnet for bullying. At the gym, at work, on the street—people treat me like trash because of the Horn Effect. Dark Triad individuals sense my genetic inferiority and attack.
The only way to breathe in this society as an incel is to looksmax enough to become "invisible" to these predators, not to become visible to foids.

**Conclusion:**
Accept your inceldom. The Blackpill is mainstream because capitalism and female hypergamy have destroyed the world. The incel population will explode in the future. I am just trying to survive the fallout.

incel final boss

 

[looksovernt]

I am a Greycel from a third-world country. My English is broken, so I used ChatGPT to make this readable. But the pain behind these words is real.

The situation here is beyond parody. The Blackpill has gone mainstream in the worst way possible.
We now have local larpers who are **carbon copies** of famous English blackpillers like **Ramus, Clavicular, and Cookie**. They just translate the content, act like prophets, and farm views from normies.

But here is the most **brutal** part that made me physically shiver:
Yesterday, I was in a local group chat. There was a girl there—my **oneitis**. A girl I actually had feelings for.
Suddenly, I saw her casually using deep forum terminology. She was talking about "mogging" and "hunter eyes."
I am not joking. My oneitis was using our lingo. Seeing her say those words was a reality check from hell. It terrified me to my core. I panicked, blocked everyone, and deleted the chat immediately.
I can't deal with normies anymore. I only feel safe here among you autistic incels because reality out there has become a nightmare.

The Algorithm* has destroyed everything, but I want to prove scientifically why this means it's over for us.

I am a sub-5, so I have no bias. Here is the reality:

**1. The Red Queen Hypothesis**
For those who don't know, this is an evolutionary hypothesis from *Alice in Wonderland*: "Now, here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place."
This is exactly what is happening to the dating market.

**2. The Shift from 80/20 to 95/5**
The standards are inflating brutally.
* **MTN is the new LTN.**
* **LTN is the new Sub-5.**
The Pareto distribution is shifting. Soon, 95% of men will be invisible to foids.

**3. Looksmaxxing is Zero-Sum**
Because of the Red Queen effect, "Softmaxxing" is no longer special—it’s the baseline.
Taking Accutane, using Finasteride, or wearing sunscreen isn't considered "gay" anymore. Every zoomer is doing it.
This means an LTN might looksmax to become an MTN, but since *everyone else* is also improving, his relative standing doesn't change. Even if you get nose surgery (Hardmax), you are just running to stay in the same place. It is mandatory just to exist.

**4. Why I (a Sub-5) still Looksmax**
I know the future is dark. Greys and Bluepilled users try to cope, but we know it's over.
We sub-5s (future subhumans) have two options: **Ropemaxx** or **Looksmax**.
I chose looksmaxxing, but NOT to get foids. That dream is dead. Even Chadlites are struggling now.

**The Real Reason to Looksmax for Sub-5s:**
I looksmax to survive against **Dark Triad** predators.
As a sub-5, I am a magnet for bullying. At the gym, at work, on the street—people treat me like trash because of the Horn Effect. Dark Triad individuals sense my genetic inferiority and attack.
The only way to breathe in this society as an incel is to looksmax enough to become "invisible" to these predators, not to become visible to foids.

**Conclusion:**
Accept your inceldom. The Blackpill is mainstream because capitalism and female hypergamy have destroyed the world. The incel population will explode in the future. I am just trying to survive the fallout.

You're an actual retard that should be killed if you genuinely think MTN+ struggle to get foids