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Im 30+ years old and been on the gym for more than a decade non-stop, tried many steroids too. I researched well before using unlike most kids on the gym nowadays who do really ridiculous cycles, doses, run fake stuff and in general do stupid shit. Didnt do championship cycles but out of curiosity i learn about a lot of substances.
I will also answer your questions. Im not a doctor, i dont promote buying/selling/using steroids so i will write by my experience and as neutral as possible.
I cannot know literally about every substance and i also didnt investigate about many because lack of interest (not for my goals), so if i dont know something in particular i wont be talking out of my ass, ill be honest and simply tell you i dont know about it.
So what are steroids? Most people think steroids are shady substances from the underground bodybuilding scene. Actually steroids are just medicines like aspirin or ibuprofen, created for a variety of illness, that you would find on any pharmacy. They are all derivatives of testosterone, the main male hormone. The catch is they are taken in a dose higher than the recommended. They are not really illegal, but "controlled substances".
To put it simply, imagine theres a pill that makes your headache go away, normal dose, but if you take 5 of those pills it will make you smarter for 48hours. This is exactly what steroid users do: exceeding the recommended dosages for bodybuilding purposes.
These are in general the positive effects you will experience:
Increased stamina - You can do exercise for longer periods.
Increased strength - You increase your lifts dramatically week after week.
Increased self-steem - Feel the king of the jungle.
Increased libido - Makes you almost nymphomaniac.
Increased energy - Lack of sleep hours? No problem, feel always well rested.
Pumped look all day - Muscles look full all the time, you get pumps just by doing silly things like brushing teeth.
Veiny look on low bodyfat percentage.
Hard look on low bodyfat percentage.
Every person will experience the side effects differently. You may get three of these and your friends none. Every person is different, every substance is different and even cycles with same substance can feel different. These are usually dependant on genetics. Some people dont know they have predisposition and discover it the hard way. Theres also other factors like doing or not doing proper post cycle therapy which i will explain later:
Hypertension which can lead to failure of heart or other organs.
Cardiovascular problems
Liver failure
Prostate problems
Accelerated balding and/or thinning of hair
High colesterol
Neurodegenerative and mental problems like depression, bipolar, roid rage...
Acne
Gynecomastia
Injuries related to training too heavy
Low or inexistent libido, soft erections for weeks or months
Temporally or permanent sterility
Temporally or permanent hormone problems
Theres two methods of using steroids. Doing a cycle and doing "blast and cruise".
A cycle has 3 stages: juicing-therapy-rest. You juice for a number of weeks (average 10 or 12) followed by what they call post-cycle therapy (PCT). After this you rest a few months to let body and hormone system fully recover.
Your testosterone levels are self-regulated, so when you use steroids the body will detect your testosterones levels are too high and will stop producing it to try to balance things out. When you finish using, the "engine" that made testosterone is still offline so you do PCT with certain medicines to help restart it. Low test means not being able to maintain big muscles and the engine takes a while to restart, so as you can imagine PCT is super important. Its totally normal to lose a bit of your new muscle but the faster you recover the less you will lose. This is the best way to use steroids for the casual user, if you just want some push from time to time and have no wish of competing.
Blast'n'cruise (BnC) is a bit similar to cycling. You "blast" using steroids normally, but instead of PCT and months rest, all that period will be "cruising" doing a small dose of testosterone (a bit superior to what the body usually produces) that will help you to keep the gains. This is the option for all these instagrammers who are big and in shape all year or people who compete in bodybuilding. Although the effects on endocrine system and low fertility you experience can hopefully be reversed with treatment sometimes, it is mostly taken as a lifetime vow, or way of life if you prefer to call it like that. Doing this means depending on injecting testosterone the rest of your life, wether you are a bodybuilder until you die or end fucked up because your body wont produce testosterone anymore.
Short version explanation of the most used. As you will see, because of their chemical composition they bring certain positive or negative side effects. Some can come in many forms, depending on which one it will take less or more time to be released in the bloodstream.
Testosterone - The core of juicing and the base of any cycle. Good for size, good for cutting. For the casuals who want a boost once in a while or dont plan on going too big, you really dont need much more than this.
Dianabol - Breakfast of Champions. Oral steroid that you take for strength, i like to say its like having a coffe of testosterone, just an extra spike for the day. Problem is you bloat a lot, will make you hold water, so its only good for bulking.
Turinabol - Dianabol's cousin they say. Made in eastern europe in the 60's for their athletes to compete against the West in olympics. Weaker than dianabol but you hold less water too.
Deca Durabolin - Common injectable for bulking. Shuts down your test production dramatically, which means harsh recovery. Some people end with limp dick for months.
Winstrol - Injectable or oral. Used commonly for a dry look when cutting. Devastating for hair, bad idea if you are prone to balding. Fucks up cholesterol levels fast. Makes your joints dry.
Masteron - Similar to winstrol, makes you horny as fuck.
Primobolan - Mostly used when cutting. Weak, expensive and its the most counterfeited. Why would you use it then? Well its weak on side effects and the best for keepable gains. Also gives you a good dry look (not as dramatic as others). If money wasnt a problem i would do test+primo only (not willing to compete)
Oxandrolone - Also known as anavar. Almost same history as primobolan but oral. Taken by women who compete because low feminization risk. In my case i had sick pumps while training.
Trembolone - What runs in the veins of the gods, literally. 5 times more anabolic than testosterone. If using testosterone is already a big step, trembolone is next level shit. Epic for size, monster strength, cutting. Doesnt matter. Eat crap still reach your goals (sad to say but its the truth). Fat melts. Originally made for cattle so they had more meat before slaughter. This is a hardcore drug and a MUST for competing, literally forget about competing without this. Theres mixed opinions about if its worth it to suffer the side effects (insomnia, massive sweating, lack of breath, mental rollercoaster..). High supression when cycling and even doing BnC you can feel like crap.
Growth Hormone - Deceiving name. Sounds like a big thing but actually is the contrary. Worst cost/efficiency ratio, too faked, takes long time to feel. Should be used for antiaging purposes or when you are cycling heavy and need the cherry on top.
Halotestin - Makes you ultra aggressive, good for amateur/pro fighters who dont get tested for steroids. Dont know much more about it.
Clenbuterol - Stimulant used to help lose fat. Too much dose and be shaky the rest of the day.
Theres two ways of sourcing the black market
Pharmacy grade - Most of the substances mentioned, as i said are normal medicine, made by big corporations such as Bayer, that one way or another get into the black market. Good thing is you know what you get, substance and dose will be accurate. Bad thing, they get counterfeited and since we are talking about black market, prices are very high. You have a pharmacist friend who sells or mafias from countries with low regulation import hundreds or thousands of doses from others like Iran, Pakistan to resell on internet for a profit...
Underground laboratory (UGL) - Individuals or organized crime groups get steroid powder from countries like China, "cook" it, label it and distribute the vials or pills. They usually have a catchy name that includes "Pharma" or "Pharmaceuticals" and if they are serious enough they want the brand to be trusted so they get popular on the black market. These are the most common because they are cheaper and easy to find. However, they arent made by professionals. You dont know what you get, you dont know the real dose, you dont know if its sterile. Maybe its only oil without hormone... You have to trust people's comments on forums.
Ill take questions from here.
I will also answer your questions. Im not a doctor, i dont promote buying/selling/using steroids so i will write by my experience and as neutral as possible.
I cannot know literally about every substance and i also didnt investigate about many because lack of interest (not for my goals), so if i dont know something in particular i wont be talking out of my ass, ill be honest and simply tell you i dont know about it.
INTRODUCTION
So what are steroids? Most people think steroids are shady substances from the underground bodybuilding scene. Actually steroids are just medicines like aspirin or ibuprofen, created for a variety of illness, that you would find on any pharmacy. They are all derivatives of testosterone, the main male hormone. The catch is they are taken in a dose higher than the recommended. They are not really illegal, but "controlled substances".
To put it simply, imagine theres a pill that makes your headache go away, normal dose, but if you take 5 of those pills it will make you smarter for 48hours. This is exactly what steroid users do: exceeding the recommended dosages for bodybuilding purposes.
EFFECTS
These are in general the positive effects you will experience:
Increased stamina - You can do exercise for longer periods.
Increased strength - You increase your lifts dramatically week after week.
Increased self-steem - Feel the king of the jungle.
Increased libido - Makes you almost nymphomaniac.
Increased energy - Lack of sleep hours? No problem, feel always well rested.
Pumped look all day - Muscles look full all the time, you get pumps just by doing silly things like brushing teeth.
Veiny look on low bodyfat percentage.
Hard look on low bodyfat percentage.
SIDE EFFECTS
Every person will experience the side effects differently. You may get three of these and your friends none. Every person is different, every substance is different and even cycles with same substance can feel different. These are usually dependant on genetics. Some people dont know they have predisposition and discover it the hard way. Theres also other factors like doing or not doing proper post cycle therapy which i will explain later:
Hypertension which can lead to failure of heart or other organs.
Cardiovascular problems
Liver failure
Prostate problems
Accelerated balding and/or thinning of hair
High colesterol
Neurodegenerative and mental problems like depression, bipolar, roid rage...
Acne
Gynecomastia
Injuries related to training too heavy
Low or inexistent libido, soft erections for weeks or months
Temporally or permanent sterility
Temporally or permanent hormone problems
CYCLE VS BLAST'N'CRUISE
Theres two methods of using steroids. Doing a cycle and doing "blast and cruise".
A cycle has 3 stages: juicing-therapy-rest. You juice for a number of weeks (average 10 or 12) followed by what they call post-cycle therapy (PCT). After this you rest a few months to let body and hormone system fully recover.
Your testosterone levels are self-regulated, so when you use steroids the body will detect your testosterones levels are too high and will stop producing it to try to balance things out. When you finish using, the "engine" that made testosterone is still offline so you do PCT with certain medicines to help restart it. Low test means not being able to maintain big muscles and the engine takes a while to restart, so as you can imagine PCT is super important. Its totally normal to lose a bit of your new muscle but the faster you recover the less you will lose. This is the best way to use steroids for the casual user, if you just want some push from time to time and have no wish of competing.
Blast'n'cruise (BnC) is a bit similar to cycling. You "blast" using steroids normally, but instead of PCT and months rest, all that period will be "cruising" doing a small dose of testosterone (a bit superior to what the body usually produces) that will help you to keep the gains. This is the option for all these instagrammers who are big and in shape all year or people who compete in bodybuilding. Although the effects on endocrine system and low fertility you experience can hopefully be reversed with treatment sometimes, it is mostly taken as a lifetime vow, or way of life if you prefer to call it like that. Doing this means depending on injecting testosterone the rest of your life, wether you are a bodybuilder until you die or end fucked up because your body wont produce testosterone anymore.
MOST COMMON SUBSTANCES
Short version explanation of the most used. As you will see, because of their chemical composition they bring certain positive or negative side effects. Some can come in many forms, depending on which one it will take less or more time to be released in the bloodstream.
Testosterone - The core of juicing and the base of any cycle. Good for size, good for cutting. For the casuals who want a boost once in a while or dont plan on going too big, you really dont need much more than this.
Dianabol - Breakfast of Champions. Oral steroid that you take for strength, i like to say its like having a coffe of testosterone, just an extra spike for the day. Problem is you bloat a lot, will make you hold water, so its only good for bulking.
Turinabol - Dianabol's cousin they say. Made in eastern europe in the 60's for their athletes to compete against the West in olympics. Weaker than dianabol but you hold less water too.
Deca Durabolin - Common injectable for bulking. Shuts down your test production dramatically, which means harsh recovery. Some people end with limp dick for months.
Winstrol - Injectable or oral. Used commonly for a dry look when cutting. Devastating for hair, bad idea if you are prone to balding. Fucks up cholesterol levels fast. Makes your joints dry.
Masteron - Similar to winstrol, makes you horny as fuck.
Primobolan - Mostly used when cutting. Weak, expensive and its the most counterfeited. Why would you use it then? Well its weak on side effects and the best for keepable gains. Also gives you a good dry look (not as dramatic as others). If money wasnt a problem i would do test+primo only (not willing to compete)
Oxandrolone - Also known as anavar. Almost same history as primobolan but oral. Taken by women who compete because low feminization risk. In my case i had sick pumps while training.
Trembolone - What runs in the veins of the gods, literally. 5 times more anabolic than testosterone. If using testosterone is already a big step, trembolone is next level shit. Epic for size, monster strength, cutting. Doesnt matter. Eat crap still reach your goals (sad to say but its the truth). Fat melts. Originally made for cattle so they had more meat before slaughter. This is a hardcore drug and a MUST for competing, literally forget about competing without this. Theres mixed opinions about if its worth it to suffer the side effects (insomnia, massive sweating, lack of breath, mental rollercoaster..). High supression when cycling and even doing BnC you can feel like crap.
Growth Hormone - Deceiving name. Sounds like a big thing but actually is the contrary. Worst cost/efficiency ratio, too faked, takes long time to feel. Should be used for antiaging purposes or when you are cycling heavy and need the cherry on top.
Halotestin - Makes you ultra aggressive, good for amateur/pro fighters who dont get tested for steroids. Dont know much more about it.
Clenbuterol - Stimulant used to help lose fat. Too much dose and be shaky the rest of the day.
STEROID BLACK MARKET
Theres two ways of sourcing the black market
Pharmacy grade - Most of the substances mentioned, as i said are normal medicine, made by big corporations such as Bayer, that one way or another get into the black market. Good thing is you know what you get, substance and dose will be accurate. Bad thing, they get counterfeited and since we are talking about black market, prices are very high. You have a pharmacist friend who sells or mafias from countries with low regulation import hundreds or thousands of doses from others like Iran, Pakistan to resell on internet for a profit...
Underground laboratory (UGL) - Individuals or organized crime groups get steroid powder from countries like China, "cook" it, label it and distribute the vials or pills. They usually have a catchy name that includes "Pharma" or "Pharmaceuticals" and if they are serious enough they want the brand to be trusted so they get popular on the black market. These are the most common because they are cheaper and easy to find. However, they arent made by professionals. You dont know what you get, you dont know the real dose, you dont know if its sterile. Maybe its only oil without hormone... You have to trust people's comments on forums.
Ill take questions from here.
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