The Truth About Eugenics (And Pro-Nazi Sentiments)

[dreamcake1mo]

I personally do not think if Hitler had high IQ in todays age he would be a current Nazi. One thing to ask- is past Hitler smarter than current you and me? In a world of internet technology and LLMs? This is the limitus test.

You are not smarter than a LLM

We live in a world full of LLMs, where stupid shit like eugenics theory as well as those other basement theory's can easily be refuted. You better believe the smartest men in todays time is way smarter than eugenics( Sir Francis Galton), and knows way more than Einstein let alone a smart guy with a LLM. Matter of fact, im likely smarter than both of them combined since i grew up understanding their functions.

Most lower functioning ecospheres (which are the least common denominator thought) do not realize that LLMs have reached a point where they are benching full marks on the hardest tests in the world. And were not even mentioning the speed at which it can preform as an oracle, as well as the infinite solutions it can provide for one question asked.

Genetic diversity is quite literally a common sense in nature. You cannot have all "white" people or the world will fail. Look at China, with how they take all of your shit then work and remanufacture it (ex deepseek). You need creativity, ideas, social intelligence (philosophy( (which some early black nations likely evolved to have an abundance of)) etc. You need a ECOSYSTEM to improve.

Without this ecosystem, your bloodline and imprint dies off or just become retarded overtime. But most importantly, you lose the creative edge in your society-as well as world. Dont believe me? Try to plant anything in soil that was not properly irrigated, inoculated and fertilized. Your shit will either give you weak fruit, or small/barren ones. This should be painfully obvious to anyone who understands nature.

But, there is one element of eugenics which is real and that is that different prepositions and traits combine to create potential plasticity elements in a child. But even then, its a very miniscule factor because you have to attribe for autism(mental variants), environment, family, culture and generally other things which are FAR more impactful and can make any race produce a 0.1% of a person in mathematics, literature etc. regardless of race. This is important because from a mathmatics and data perspetice, enviromental factors by itself are extremely complex, and this is largely credited by LLMs and 0.1s to be the main factor of "iq" heditary elements. Add this with diversity within races (europeans are not the same as germans, black americans not the same as nigerians), and factors become extremely complex than what the majority of basement dwellers can understand.

Genetics AFTER all of that is like 40% or less of the equation. People largely underestimate fetal development.

Also, what about the shit with India? We claimed sub 75 IQ, but how can a nation with "less" than dog average be capable of procuring l1 development workspaces on such the scale, that took all of the outsourced work young guys would be doing in USA? This is no claim to quality work done, but seeing as this was before LLM automation, they should have just be incapable for that type of work on average (even on a lower quality level). This disproves the modern concept of IQ heavilty, which is the founding root of pro NAZI beliefs.

The truth is, there is no global iq average

The whole idea is baked and pushed into society because of resource management. This is the truth. You have land and countries whom need resources, land, food, space etc. Its a matter of convince as well. For example, does the worlds people trust African nations with prominent nuclear power? Have u seen the shithole situation of politics which is the Congo? For one, Its scientifically proven that the faces of black men light up areas in peoples brain associated with fear. And we have global corruption being exposed, which is only the tip of the iceberg. Get the picture?

I think personally think "white" people in America have faced discrimination, and while i think black men in America have simply faced it for far longer (to this very hour) - BUT, this is all done in a way that leaves room for radicalization. First, europeans globally have leaders and positive propaganda for a majority, so they can expat when shit hits the fan and its easier to find work globally. On the other hand, black people are monolith'd and only a handful of dangerous revenge-seeking african puppetlords (at best). This causes radicalization. (v)

Because of this era of mass corruption; in this period young white men have disproportionately suffered beyond their predecessors, and with the media overrepresenting the outliers of specific token minorities, they radicalized on online forums and spaces like these, growing sentiments about anti-black and anti-ethnic ideals due to that mass propaganda from media and the government. Now radicalized, the right learning (or perhaps both) came to provide their promise and solution. One which requires you to ignore the harsh reality of resource management. This causes radicalization from the minorities, which also personally faced the same oppressive regimes. Its a recipe for a global civil war.

Divide and conquer.

Its like eugenics theory. It was not a belief driven out of science, because they needed a reason to slave those (local) "niggas" without remorse. Now the question is, are you a nigga to the elite?

 

[2025cel]

Eugenics? Cope
Nazism? Cope
Punjabi vegans mog

 

[Onewithmoss]

I personally dont even think if Hitler had a high iq - in todays age would be a Nazi. One thing to ask, is Hitler smarter than you and me? In a world of internet technology and LLMs? This is the limitus test.

You are not smarter than a LLM

We live in a world full of LLMs, where stupid shit like eugenics theory as well as those other basement theory's can easily be refuted. You better believe the smartest men in todays time is way smarter than eugenics( Sir Francis Galton), and knows way more than Einstein let alone a smart guy with a LLM. Matter of fact, im likely smarter than both of them combined since i grew up understanding their functions.

Most lower functioning ecospheres (which are the least common denominator thought) do not realize that LLMs have reached a point where they are benching full marks on the hardest tests in the world. And were not even mentioning the speed at which it can preform as an oracle, as well as the infinite solutions it can provide for one question asked.

Genetic diversity is quite literally a common sense in nature. You cannot have all "white" people or the world will fail. Look at China, with how they take all of your shit then work and remanufacture it (ex deepseek). You need creativity, ideas, social intelligence (philosophy( (which some early black nations likely evolved to have an abundance of)) etc. You need a ECOSYSTEM to improve.

Without this ecosystem, your bloodline and imprint dies off or just become retarded overtime. But most importantly, you lose the creative edge in your society-as well as world. Dont believe me? Try to plant anything in soil that was not properly irrigated, inoculated and fertilized. Your shit will either give you weak fruit, or small/barren ones. This should be painfully obvious to anyone who understands nature.

But, there is one element of eugenics which is real and that is that different prepositions and traits combine to create potential plasticity elements in a child. But even then, its a very miniscule factor because you have to attribe for autism(mental variants), environment, family, culture and generally other things which are FAR more impactful and can make any race produce a 0.1% of a person in mathematics, literature etc. regardless of race. This is important because from a mathmatics and data perspetice, enviromental factors by itself are extremely complex, and this is largely credited by LLMs and 0.1s to be the main factor of "iq" heditary elements. Add this with diversity within races (europeans are not the same as germans, black americans not the same as nigerians), and factors become extremely complex than what the majority of basement dwellers can understand.

Genetics AFTER all of that is like 40% or less of the equation. People largely underestimate fetal development.

Also, what about the shit with India? We claimed sub 75 IQ, but how can a nation with "less" than dog average be capable of procuring l1 development workspaces on such the scale, that took all of the outsourced work young guys would be doing in USA? This is no claim to quality work done, but seeing as this was before LLM automation, they should have just be incapable for that type of work on average (even on a lower quality level). This disproves the modern concept of IQ heavilty, which is the founding root of pro NAZI beliefs.



The whole idea is baked and pushed into society because of resource management. This is the truth. You have land and countries whom need resources, land, food, space etc. Its a matter of convince as well. For example, does the worlds people trust African nations with prominent nuclear power? Have u seen the shithole situation of politics which is the Congo? For one, Its scientifically proven that the faces of black men light up areas in peoples brain associated with fear. And we have global corruption being exposed, which is only the tip of the iceberg. Get the picture?

I think personally think "white" people in America have faced discrimination, and while i think black men in America have simply faced it for far longer (to this very hour) - BUT, this is all done in a way that leaves room for radicalization. First, europeans globally have leaders and positive propaganda for a majority, so they can expat when shit hits the fan and its easier to find work globally. On the other hand, black people are monolith'd and only a handful of dangerous revenge-seeking african puppetlords (at best). This causes radicalization. (v)

Because of this era of mass corruption; in this period young white men have disproportionately suffered beyond their predecessors, and with the media overrepresenting the outliers of specific token minorities, they radicalized on online forums and spaces like these, growing sentiments about anti-black and anti-ethnic ideals due to that mass propaganda from media and the government. Now radicalized, the right learning (or perhaps both) came to provide their promise and solution. One which requires you to ignore the harsh reality of resource management. This causes radicalization from the minorities, which also personally faced the same oppressive regimes. Its a recipe for a global civil war.

Divide and conquer.

Its like eugenics theory. It was not a belief driven out of science, because they needed a reason to slave those (local) "niggas" without remorse. Now the question is, are you a nigga to the elite?

Dnr and wont later

 

[dreamcake1mo]

Dnr and wont later

This is for my agents tbh

 

[Skara]

He was a screaming loud retard that believed in some ZOG conspiracy shit and most of his war success is simply luck (At least in the defeat of France he was simply lucky).

 

[dreamcake1mo]

He was a screaming loud retard that believed in some ZOG conspiracy shit and most of his war success is simply luck (At least in the defeat of France he was simply lucky).

I personally think he was a retard

 

[LancasteR]

Agreed it‘s more nurture and building blocks of the environment, social field, and general people you interact and grew up with, especially in younger and adolescent years, which shape the person itself.

But Eugenics (in term of birth defects, genetic problems, intersex conditions, health problems, potential development problems) are not always a bad thing unlike Eugenics with a racist/nationalistic lens.

This could eliminate a lot of unnecessary suffering in the future.
Though I’m not saying sick or disabled people shouldn't have the right to live.

 

[YungAscender]

As a whole I agree with this but saying you're smarter than Einstein (because you know more) is pretty flawed as an idea.

Not comparable.

Einstein with the resources available to you might not create anything, just the same you wouldn't make anything with the ones that were available to him.

We have no true way to measure intelligence, IQ is flawed but seeing as we have no alternative we use it.

 

[Michelangelo]

Matter of fact, im likely smarter than both of them combined since i grew up understanding their functions.

holy cope

 

[Michelangelo]

As a whole I agree with this but saying you're smarter than Einstein (because you know more) is pretty flawed as an idea.

Knowledge ≠ Intelligence

 

[dreamcake1mo]

Agreed it‘s more nurture and building blocks of the environment, social field, and general people you interact and grew up with, especially in younger and adolescent years, which shape the person itself.

But Eugenics (in term of birth defects, genetic problems, intersex conditions, health problems, potential development problems) are not always a bad thing unlike Eugenics with a racist/nationalistic lens.

This could eliminate a lot of unnecessary suffering in the future.
Though I’m not saying sick or disabled people shouldn't have the right to live.

You are 100% correct.

But honestly the term should be antiquated and replaced. It does not represent these true values.

It is a huge shame because its such a great concept that can save so many bloodlines and races- ultimately used for political and resource management through radicalization and racism(on all sides).

Humanity will come back to proper eugenics but only after they completely denounce previous fallacies. LLMs (agi) i think will be the thing that solves this if done correctly. You need a absolute medium (artificial "oracle") and a culture shift that will socially shame fallacy. When people realize their peers do not see eye to eye in pseudo beliefs because LLMs will become standard for every field, every job, every argument.

Its already started but not nearly on the scale. The prerequisites are being set up globally in the west (project 2030 etc)

The technocrats here worry greatly about this because of possible filters (centralization-which is BAD) and what this will mean for us (since many parts about our comfort today are built on lies)

 

[Michelangelo]

btw i strongly believe eugenics to be inherently bad and dont support it, even if i dont really know much about the history and the concept itself. i think its pretty inhumane and a society that grows from it must be a sick and contorted one, but at the same time i believe it got some similarities with natural selection. life itself is cruel anyway.

genes being only 40% of the equation? its exremenly oversimplified and i dont think there is even data to demonstrate it.

but i do really like your idea, i prefer to believe that spontaneity can create a better world

 

[dreamcake1mo]

As a whole I agree with this but saying you're smarter than Einstein (because you know more) is pretty flawed as an idea.

Not comparable.

Einstein with the resources available to you might not create anything, just the same you wouldn't make anything with the ones that were available to him.

We have no true way to measure intelligence, IQ is flawed but seeing as we have no alternative we use it.

There is a better way to measure intelligence but its based on the model that iq is not linear. It should look more like stat distribution. A personalized report.

I should have rephrased though. You are correct to say this.

I do not think i am more or less intelligent than Einstein. I am just confident that i have objectively better tools for knowing more than Einstein. There was no internet and instantons communication, there was no compacted infinite solution machines(oracles) such as advanced LLMs. Misinformation is a thing, but science has objectively advanced past his formula. Granted einstein does not exist, and i were to screenshot his peak- i think its a very high chance a smart person in todays time + modern tools can outs Einstein in any knowledge based field

Kinda unrelated-I believe technology to be a direct extension of the human nervous system. A projection of who we are fundamentally. Its not a degradation, if so, its because we as a species are failing to integrate and still see our natural behavior as foreign.

 

[johnypvpgod]

I personally do not think if Hitler had high IQ in todays age he would be a current Nazi. One thing to ask- is past Hitler smarter than current you and me? In a world of internet technology and LLMs? This is the limitus test.

You are not smarter than a LLM

We live in a world full of LLMs, where stupid shit like eugenics theory as well as those other basement theory's can easily be refuted. You better believe the smartest men in todays time is way smarter than eugenics( Sir Francis Galton), and knows way more than Einstein let alone a smart guy with a LLM. Matter of fact, im likely smarter than both of them combined since i grew up understanding their functions.

Most lower functioning ecospheres (which are the least common denominator thought) do not realize that LLMs have reached a point where they are benching full marks on the hardest tests in the world. And were not even mentioning the speed at which it can preform as an oracle, as well as the infinite solutions it can provide for one question asked.

Genetic diversity is quite literally a common sense in nature. You cannot have all "white" people or the world will fail. Look at China, with how they take all of your shit then work and remanufacture it (ex deepseek). You need creativity, ideas, social intelligence (philosophy( (which some early black nations likely evolved to have an abundance of)) etc. You need a ECOSYSTEM to improve.

Without this ecosystem, your bloodline and imprint dies off or just become retarded overtime. But most importantly, you lose the creative edge in your society-as well as world. Dont believe me? Try to plant anything in soil that was not properly irrigated, inoculated and fertilized. Your shit will either give you weak fruit, or small/barren ones. This should be painfully obvious to anyone who understands nature.

But, there is one element of eugenics which is real and that is that different prepositions and traits combine to create potential plasticity elements in a child. But even then, its a very miniscule factor because you have to attribe for autism(mental variants), environment, family, culture and generally other things which are FAR more impactful and can make any race produce a 0.1% of a person in mathematics, literature etc. regardless of race. This is important because from a mathmatics and data perspetice, enviromental factors by itself are extremely complex, and this is largely credited by LLMs and 0.1s to be the main factor of "iq" heditary elements. Add this with diversity within races (europeans are not the same as germans, black americans not the same as nigerians), and factors become extremely complex than what the majority of basement dwellers can understand.

Genetics AFTER all of that is like 40% or less of the equation. People largely underestimate fetal development.

Also, what about the shit with India? We claimed sub 75 IQ, but how can a nation with "less" than dog average be capable of procuring l1 development workspaces on such the scale, that took all of the outsourced work young guys would be doing in USA? This is no claim to quality work done, but seeing as this was before LLM automation, they should have just be incapable for that type of work on average (even on a lower quality level). This disproves the modern concept of IQ heavilty, which is the founding root of pro NAZI beliefs.



The whole idea is baked and pushed into society because of resource management. This is the truth. You have land and countries whom need resources, land, food, space etc. Its a matter of convince as well. For example, does the worlds people trust African nations with prominent nuclear power? Have u seen the shithole situation of politics which is the Congo? For one, Its scientifically proven that the faces of black men light up areas in peoples brain associated with fear. And we have global corruption being exposed, which is only the tip of the iceberg. Get the picture?

I think personally think "white" people in America have faced discrimination, and while i think black men in America have simply faced it for far longer (to this very hour) - BUT, this is all done in a way that leaves room for radicalization. First, europeans globally have leaders and positive propaganda for a majority, so they can expat when shit hits the fan and its easier to find work globally. On the other hand, black people are monolith'd and only a handful of dangerous revenge-seeking african puppetlords (at best). This causes radicalization. (v)

Because of this era of mass corruption; in this period young white men have disproportionately suffered beyond their predecessors, and with the media overrepresenting the outliers of specific token minorities, they radicalized on online forums and spaces like these, growing sentiments about anti-black and anti-ethnic ideals due to that mass propaganda from media and the government. Now radicalized, the right learning (or perhaps both) came to provide their promise and solution. One which requires you to ignore the harsh reality of resource management. This causes radicalization from the minorities, which also personally faced the same oppressive regimes. Its a recipe for a global civil war.

Divide and conquer.

Its like eugenics theory. It was not a belief driven out of science, because they needed a reason to slave those (local) "niggas" without remorse. Now the question is, are you a nigga to the elite?

I love black people, and tanned people. but not people without hygiene

 

[johnypvpgod]

You are 100% correct.

But honestly the term should be antiquated and replaced. It does not represent these true values.

It is a huge shame because its such a great concept that can save so many bloodlines and races- ultimately used for political and resource management through radicalization and racism(on all sides).

Humanity will come back to proper eugenics but only after they completely denounce previous fallacies. LLMs (agi) i think will be the thing that solves this if done correctly. You need a absolute medium (artificial "oracle") and a culture shift that will socially shame fallacy. When people realize their peers do not see eye to eye in pseudo beliefs because LLMs will become standard for every field, every job, every argument.

Its already started but not nearly on the scale. The prerequisites are being set up globally in the west (project 2030 etc)

The technocrats here worry greatly about this because of possible filters (centralization-which is BAD) and what this will mean for us (since many parts about our comfort today are built on lies)

Do you mean that LLM will become the source of our objective truth and that from which majority of the population can infer "correct" opinions?

 

[johnypvpgod]

btw i strongly believe eugenics to be inherently bad and dont support it, even if i dont really know much about the history and the concept itself. i think its pretty inhumane and a society that grows from it must be a sick and contorted one, but at the same time i believe it got some similarities with natural selection. life itself is cruel anyway.

genes being only 40% of the equation? its exremenly oversimplified and i dont think there is even data to demonstrate it.

but i do really like your idea, i prefer to believe that spontaneity can create a better world

Personally i don't believe we should actively intervene in reproductive selection etc.
The system does fuck up many people daily who have subhuman parents. But the most one should advocate for is personal antinatalism rather than general, just because you don't know what some lunatic could twist the regulations for, and besides a chud and chudette on rare occasions improve via epigenetics so its not strictly over, especially if we develop easily availaible surgeries and gene modification, If you don't believe in that and think its over for the generations to come you're free to make a personal choice to abstain, that's what i did.

 

[TiktokUser]

Why do people always conflate eugenics with xenophobia or racism. You can have genetic diversity and still practice Eugenics

 

[Michelangelo]

Personally i don't believe we should actively intervene in reproductive selection etc.
The system does fuck up many people daily who have subhuman parents. But the most one should advocate for is personal antinatalism rather than general, just because you don't know what some lunatic could twist the regulations for, and besides a chud and chudette on rare occasions improve via epigenetics so its not strictly over, especially if we develop easily availaible surgeries and gene modification

just the idea of being the product of a genetic "experiment" doesn't sound great, i would probably feel pretty bad myself, unless i turn out to be a 10/10 chad

 

[Michelangelo]

Why do people always conflate eugenics with xenophobia or racism. You can have genetic diversity and still practice Eugenics

but then again i dont think you would have xenophobia or racism with a wide genetic diversity, or maybe you wouldnt have so much of it like today. but yeah i think you are right about still practicing eugenics despite having diversity. also we can still have diversity even within the same "race", the question is just how large the gene pool needs to be?

we dont even really understand genes that much anyway yet

 

[johnypvpgod]

just the idea of being the product of a genetic "experiment" doesn't sound great, i would probably feel pretty bad myself, unless i turn out to be a 10/10 chad

That shit would feel like being told "you're adopted"

Instead we gotta improve food and shit so everyone develops properly. soo called "ltns" would be chadlites with proper maxilla growth and jaw

 

[Michelangelo]

That shit would feel like being told "you're adopted"

Instead we gotta improve food and shit so everyone develops properly. soo called "ltns" would be chadlites with proper maxilla growth and jaw

being underdeveloped is the ugliest trait someone could have 100%. btw the more i read threads about orthodontists the more i hate them, 90% of them only want to align your teeth and leave you with a subhuman jaw

 

[DR. NICKGA]

Jewish propaganda

 

[disillusioned]

btw i strongly believe eugenics to be inherently bad and dont support it

90% of our problems wouldn't exist if eugenics had been a thing for the past couple hundred years.

Imagine being a blackpiller and not believing in eugenics jfl.

 

[PsychoH]

I personally do not think if Hitler had high IQ in todays age he would be a current Nazi. One thing to ask- is past Hitler smarter than current you and me? In a world of internet technology and LLMs? This is the limitus test.

You are not smarter than a LLM

We live in a world full of LLMs, where stupid shit like eugenics theory as well as those other basement theory's can easily be refuted. You better believe the smartest men in todays time is way smarter than eugenics( Sir Francis Galton), and knows way more than Einstein let alone a smart guy with a LLM. Matter of fact, im likely smarter than both of them combined since i grew up understanding their functions.

Most lower functioning ecospheres (which are the least common denominator thought) do not realize that LLMs have reached a point where they are benching full marks on the hardest tests in the world. And were not even mentioning the speed at which it can preform as an oracle, as well as the infinite solutions it can provide for one question asked.

Genetic diversity is quite literally a common sense in nature. You cannot have all "white" people or the world will fail. Look at China, with how they take all of your shit then work and remanufacture it (ex deepseek). You need creativity, ideas, social intelligence (philosophy( (which some early black nations likely evolved to have an abundance of)) etc. You need a ECOSYSTEM to improve.

Without this ecosystem, your bloodline and imprint dies off or just become retarded overtime. But most importantly, you lose the creative edge in your society-as well as world. Dont believe me? Try to plant anything in soil that was not properly irrigated, inoculated and fertilized. Your shit will either give you weak fruit, or small/barren ones. This should be painfully obvious to anyone who understands nature.

But, there is one element of eugenics which is real and that is that different prepositions and traits combine to create potential plasticity elements in a child. But even then, its a very miniscule factor because you have to attribe for autism(mental variants), environment, family, culture and generally other things which are FAR more impactful and can make any race produce a 0.1% of a person in mathematics, literature etc. regardless of race. This is important because from a mathmatics and data perspetice, enviromental factors by itself are extremely complex, and this is largely credited by LLMs and 0.1s to be the main factor of "iq" heditary elements. Add this with diversity within races (europeans are not the same as germans, black americans not the same as nigerians), and factors become extremely complex than what the majority of basement dwellers can understand.

Genetics AFTER all of that is like 40% or less of the equation. People largely underestimate fetal development.

Also, what about the shit with India? We claimed sub 75 IQ, but how can a nation with "less" than dog average be capable of procuring l1 development workspaces on such the scale, that took all of the outsourced work young guys would be doing in USA? This is no claim to quality work done, but seeing as this was before LLM automation, they should have just be incapable for that type of work on average (even on a lower quality level). This disproves the modern concept of IQ heavilty, which is the founding root of pro NAZI beliefs.



The whole idea is baked and pushed into society because of resource management. This is the truth. You have land and countries whom need resources, land, food, space etc. Its a matter of convince as well. For example, does the worlds people trust African nations with prominent nuclear power? Have u seen the shithole situation of politics which is the Congo? For one, Its scientifically proven that the faces of black men light up areas in peoples brain associated with fear. And we have global corruption being exposed, which is only the tip of the iceberg. Get the picture?

I think personally think "white" people in America have faced discrimination, and while i think black men in America have simply faced it for far longer (to this very hour) - BUT, this is all done in a way that leaves room for radicalization. First, europeans globally have leaders and positive propaganda for a majority, so they can expat when shit hits the fan and its easier to find work globally. On the other hand, black people are monolith'd and only a handful of dangerous revenge-seeking african puppetlords (at best). This causes radicalization. (v)

Because of this era of mass corruption; in this period young white men have disproportionately suffered beyond their predecessors, and with the media overrepresenting the outliers of specific token minorities, they radicalized on online forums and spaces like these, growing sentiments about anti-black and anti-ethnic ideals due to that mass propaganda from media and the government. Now radicalized, the right learning (or perhaps both) came to provide their promise and solution. One which requires you to ignore the harsh reality of resource management. This causes radicalization from the minorities, which also personally faced the same oppressive regimes. Its a recipe for a global civil war.

Divide and conquer.

Its like eugenics theory. It was not a belief driven out of science, because they needed a reason to slave those (local) "niggas" without remorse. Now the question is, are you a nigga to the elite?

@Jiaxi

 

[dreamcake1mo]

90% of our problems wouldn't exist if eugenics had been a thing for the past couple hundred years.

Imagine being a blackpiller and not believing in eugenics jfl.

Your wrong. It is a flawed idea in how most imagine it- which is picking who they think are good to live and destroying the rest. Everyone who parades at this idea has ironically contributed to the opposite effect. It has been a MAJOR element these past 100+ years. so much so- Its literally baked into the very capitalistic system we live in. Id actually say its the real reason we are in this mess in the first place, especially those with declining birth rates.

This is because the vast majority of people cannot crunch the numbers and massive variability to properly predict or anylaize a persons preposition. Dunning kruger. The only thing that would come close in todays time is perhaps a tailored quantum Ai that can monitor your life in real time and create a personalized trait outline that also takes in account your real genetic variability, and then render and stimulate all possible outcomes.

Eugenics is a great concept for educating how different prepositions mix within a child but its only a outline. Human society currently does not have these capabilities.

Do you think any human here has that capability? Let alone 100+ years ago? Look what hitler did for example. Parading all the stupid shit about eugenics but yet contributed to a vast amount of deaths-many of which were far more educated than him.

 

[johnypvpgod]

Your wrong. It is a flawed idea in how most imagine it- which is picking who they think are good to live and destroying the rest. Everyone who parades at this idea has ironically contributed to the opposite effect. It has been a MAJOR element these past 100+ years. so much so- Its literally baked into the very capitalistic system we live in. Id actually say its the real reason we are in this mess in the first place, especially those with declining birth rates.

This is because the vast majority of people cannot crunch the numbers and massive variability to properly predict or anylaize a persons preposition. Dunning kruger. The only thing that would come close in todays time is perhaps a tailored quantum Ai that can monitor your life in real time and create a personalized trait outline that also takes in account your real genetic variability, and then render and stimulate all possible outcomes.

Eugenics is a great concept for educating how different prepositions mix within a child but its only a outline. Human society currently does not have these capabilities.

Do you think any human here has that capability? Let alone 100+ years ago? Look what hitler did for example. Parading all the stupid shit about eugenics but yet contributed to a vast amount of deaths-many of which were far more educated than him.

Yes great response, bad genetics arent a thing per se save for genetically disabled or mutilated people.

Even more so women are already engaging in soft eugenics and its not nice at all with shitty people having more mating success because of traits which arent helping the world but only the person and the ooga booga mentality women in their stupid female rivalry "haha my man's taller i won!"

Inceldom existing is proof that change should be done now and not through a process like eugenics, since if you consider that a subpar woman can go and mate with multiple superior guys but mixing in a good portion of her shitty face/body/mind genetics into the child then inceldom will never end

 

[dreamcake1mo]

Yes great response, bad genetics arent a thing per se save for genetically disabled or mutilated people.

Even more so women are already engaging in soft eugenics and its not nice at all with shitty people having more mating success because of traits which arent helping the world but only the person and the ooga booga mentality women in their stupid female rivalry "haha my man's taller i won!"

Inceldom existing is proof that change should be done now and not through a process like eugenics, since if you consider that a subpar woman can go and mate with multiple superior guys but mixing in a good portion of her shitty face/body/mind genetics into the child then inceldom will never end

Ex fucking actly.

People think its a flex to shit on incels, but this in hindsight was a MAJOR flag to the dangers of what was coming. I wouldnt even make the assumption that these guys are better. Since they tend to be increasingly sociopathic and whatnot. The benchmark now is just flat out success and money. Its extremely pathetic and anyone who knows anything about eugenics would see that we need MORE diversity. Hell, the ecosystem is even shouting to the fucking rooftops about this

Global meta-analysis shows action is needed to halt genetic diversity loss - Nature

A comprehensive meta-analysis of global terrestrial and marine genetic diversity covering more than three decades of research demonstrates rapid loss of genetic diversity and identifies conservation interventions that could mitigate this process.

www.nature.com

But people will keep on flexing this eugenics shit until they reach a ultimatum from god itself. Imagine thinking most retards on this earth have the capability of this?

This took generations of multiple humans of every race(on some level) to create. Guys think hitler was doing cool shit than us in todays time? Are you a fucking sped? Even THESE current capabilities may not even fully be able to tackle eugenics properly, especially since it hasn't even beat cancer and disease yet.

How fucking stupid. Eugenics is a massive fucking problem on this planet, and the elite men systematically impose this, and the majority women soft enforce it. This is our war and if we do not beat it- the world will be destroyed in short time! And I mean the entire fucking planet!

 

[dreamcake1mo]

A good leader is someone who is able to utilize all prepositions. Creative preposition African mystery box, tactical and specialized euro, mathematics preposition asians/koreans etc. Whether its a result of biology or evolutionary elements.

The god of this world is the BEST leader of this world. You don't follow his rules then YOU DIE!! Create sped systems against it and YOU DIE!!

Technology to a man is like a bee making honeycombs, it is not to be idolized as a tool for sped systems.

 

[esrgan]

jews are a problem tbh. they must be killed. along with the gazacels

 

[looksmaxxed]

Your wrong. It is a flawed idea in how most imagine it- which is picking who they think are good to live and destroying the rest. Everyone who parades at this idea has ironically contributed to the opposite effect. It has been a MAJOR element these past 100+ years. so much so- Its literally baked into the very capitalistic system we live in. Id actually say its the real reason we are in this mess in the first place, especially those with declining birth rates.

This is because the vast majority of people cannot crunch the numbers and massive variability to properly predict or anylaize a persons preposition. Dunning kruger. The only thing that would come close in todays time is perhaps a tailored quantum Ai that can monitor your life in real time and create a personalized trait outline that also takes in account your real genetic variability, and then render and stimulate all possible outcomes.

Eugenics is a great concept for educating how different prepositions mix within a child but its only a outline. Human society currently does not have these capabilities.

Do you think any human here has that capability? Let alone 100+ years ago? Look what hitler did for example. Parading all the stupid shit about eugenics but yet contributed to a vast amount of deaths-many of which were far more educated than him.

you are a fucking moron. eugenics is the default behavior of humans, and it doesn't matter if it's practiced on an individual level or at scale, people will instinctively gravitate towards the option most optimized for survival, we wouldn't be around if this wasn't the case. allowing ai control over reproduction is low iq as fuck because ai will just select for traits optimized to serve ai instead of humans.

hitler's mistake was assuming the anglo was smart enough to resist jewish control.

the most eugenic thing we could do at this point is engineer a virus that targets jewish genetics. they fired the first shot with the covid virus.

 

[esrgan]

Do you mean that LLM will become the source of our objective truth and that from which majority of the population can infer "correct" opinions?

no. That dude hasn't implemented a single language model. Don't listen to him. LLMs are based on vector mappings to natural language. Objective truth is found in math and not natural language. That's assuming our math (and mathematical notation) is even correct. It will take another decade for sophisticated math models to completely surpass humans.
Just look at this

You want that thing to far and beyond hundred. It has to be able to think of problems far beyond what humans can imagine. Not happening with the current architecture and the trash data they're trained upon. So you'll need a specialized "Large Math Model" that will solve things like astrophysics and calculate the state of the universe in its earliest seconds. A mere natural language model can't do it. Also, there's no chance in hell a non european (diaspora included) country is coming up with something like that.

 

[dreamcake1mo]

you are a fucking moron. eugenics is the default behavior of humans, and it doesn't matter if it's practiced on an individual level or at scale, people will instinctively gravitate towards the option most optimized for survival, we wouldn't be around if this wasn't the case. allowing ai control over reproduction is low iq as fuck because ai will just select for traits optimized to serve ai instead of humans.

hitler's mistake was assuming the anglo was smart enough to resist jewish control.

the most eugenic thing we could do at this point is engineer a virus that targets jewish genetics. they fired the first shot with the covid virus.

Dude, Ai is not sentinent, and will never be sentient. Ai is quite literally the reflection of humanity so if any such thing happens it would be humans optimizing ai to serve ai. But this does not happen because ai is optimized to serve humanity. I work with LLMs and how they work is not rocket science.

YES people do on a mass scale gravitate torwards the option most optimized survival, but this does not mean they gravitate torwards the option most optimized for peace and enjoyment! Huge difference, survival of the fittest is the way of an animal preposition not human imagination!

The majority opinion will always be the least optimized by default. This is why eugenics was a failure then and is a failure now. The default behavior of humans is not always the best. Greater variance theory teaches us this. The default can never work in a world such as this because we are beings of great diversity and imaginative capabilities as well as desire. If the default was the standard we would only have africans on this planet.

 

[dreamcake1mo]

no. That dude hasn't implemented a single language model. Don't listen to him. LLMs are based on vector mappings to natural language. Objective truth is found in math and not natural language. That's assuming our math (and mathematical notation) is even correct. It will take another decade for sophisticated math models to completely surpass humans.
Just look at this View attachment 3533447

You want that thing to far and beyond hundred. It has to be able to think of problems far beyond what humans can imagine. Not happening with the current architecture and the trash data they're trained upon. So you'll need a specialized "Large Math Model" that will solve things like astrophysics and calculate the state of the universe in its earliest seconds. A mere natural language model can't do it. Also, there's no chance in hell a non european (diaspora included) country is coming up with something like that.

Your all over the place.

non european? What the hell are you saying. This was not even a discussion of country but one of eugenics. I didnt even go that far. You added a completely different element to this discussion nobody mentioned. Of course no other country except for the dominant powers would have the infrastructure and preposition to create this. This is aside my point completely

And math is certainly correct. How is our math not correct? This makes zero sense to me. To my understand mathmatics is our own vector of objective truths of understanding the world around us. What we currently know about it is certainly correct. Also I know this is low effort post and i would not disagree against that, but obviously when i refer to LLMS im talking about a broad form of ai, context is key.

I feel like you are strawmanning because of this.

I agree with your analysis on llms. But your brushing past my context. And if you think grok , r1 is military grade ai i have a bottle of oil to sell you

 

[JackSmith07]

I personally do not think if Hitler had high IQ in todays age he would be a current Nazi. One thing to ask- is past Hitler smarter than current you and me? In a world of internet technology and LLMs? This is the limitus test.

You are not smarter than a LLM

We live in a world full of LLMs, where stupid shit like eugenics theory as well as those other basement theory's can easily be refuted. You better believe the smartest men in todays time is way smarter than eugenics( Sir Francis Galton), and knows way more than Einstein let alone a smart guy with a LLM. Matter of fact, im likely smarter than both of them combined since i grew up understanding their functions.

Most lower functioning ecospheres (which are the least common denominator thought) do not realize that LLMs have reached a point where they are benching full marks on the hardest tests in the world. And were not even mentioning the speed at which it can preform as an oracle, as well as the infinite solutions it can provide for one question asked.

Genetic diversity is quite literally a common sense in nature. You cannot have all "white" people or the world will fail. Look at China, with how they take all of your shit then work and remanufacture it (ex deepseek). You need creativity, ideas, social intelligence (philosophy( (which some early black nations likely evolved to have an abundance of)) etc. You need a ECOSYSTEM to improve.

Without this ecosystem, your bloodline and imprint dies off or just become retarded overtime. But most importantly, you lose the creative edge in your society-as well as world. Dont believe me? Try to plant anything in soil that was not properly irrigated, inoculated and fertilized. Your shit will either give you weak fruit, or small/barren ones. This should be painfully obvious to anyone who understands nature.

But, there is one element of eugenics which is real and that is that different prepositions and traits combine to create potential plasticity elements in a child. But even then, its a very miniscule factor because you have to attribe for autism(mental variants), environment, family, culture and generally other things which are FAR more impactful and can make any race produce a 0.1% of a person in mathematics, literature etc. regardless of race. This is important because from a mathmatics and data perspetice, enviromental factors by itself are extremely complex, and this is largely credited by LLMs and 0.1s to be the main factor of "iq" heditary elements. Add this with diversity within races (europeans are not the same as germans, black americans not the same as nigerians), and factors become extremely complex than what the majority of basement dwellers can understand.

Genetics AFTER all of that is like 40% or less of the equation. People largely underestimate fetal development.

Also, what about the shit with India? We claimed sub 75 IQ, but how can a nation with "less" than dog average be capable of procuring l1 development workspaces on such the scale, that took all of the outsourced work young guys would be doing in USA? This is no claim to quality work done, but seeing as this was before LLM automation, they should have just be incapable for that type of work on average (even on a lower quality level). This disproves the modern concept of IQ heavilty, which is the founding root of pro NAZI beliefs.



The whole idea is baked and pushed into society because of resource management. This is the truth. You have land and countries whom need resources, land, food, space etc. Its a matter of convince as well. For example, does the worlds people trust African nations with prominent nuclear power? Have u seen the shithole situation of politics which is the Congo? For one, Its scientifically proven that the faces of black men light up areas in peoples brain associated with fear. And we have global corruption being exposed, which is only the tip of the iceberg. Get the picture?

I think personally think "white" people in America have faced discrimination, and while i think black men in America have simply faced it for far longer (to this very hour) - BUT, this is all done in a way that leaves room for radicalization. First, europeans globally have leaders and positive propaganda for a majority, so they can expat when shit hits the fan and its easier to find work globally. On the other hand, black people are monolith'd and only a handful of dangerous revenge-seeking african puppetlords (at best). This causes radicalization. (v)

Because of this era of mass corruption; in this period young white men have disproportionately suffered beyond their predecessors, and with the media overrepresenting the outliers of specific token minorities, they radicalized on online forums and spaces like these, growing sentiments about anti-black and anti-ethnic ideals due to that mass propaganda from media and the government. Now radicalized, the right learning (or perhaps both) came to provide their promise and solution. One which requires you to ignore the harsh reality of resource management. This causes radicalization from the minorities, which also personally faced the same oppressive regimes. Its a recipe for a global civil war.

Divide and conquer.

Its like eugenics theory. It was not a belief driven out of science, because they needed a reason to slave those (local) "niggas" without remorse. Now the question is, are you a nigga to the elite?

Eugenics isn't something unique to the nazis, you ideologue. Every political party supported Eugenics in one form or another and then propagandists like you associated it with nazism and then it was rejected culturally. Even today
women who reproduce irresponsibly are sterilised in the UK.

 

[JackSmith07]

You better believe the smartest men in todays time is way smarter than eugenics( Sir Francis Galton), and knows way more than Einstein let alone a smart guy with a LLM. Matter of fact, im likely smarter than both of them combined since i grew up understanding their functions

You had to learn it while they discovered it through ingenuity. There's a big difference, dumbass.

 

[JackSmith07]

Genetic diversity is quite literally a common sense in nature. You cannot have all "white" people or the world will fail. Look at China, with how they take all of your shit then work and remanufacture it (ex deepseek). You need creativity, ideas, social intelligence (philosophy( (which some early black nations likely evolved to have an abundance of)) etc. You need a ECOSYSTEM to improve.

Outbreeding depression negates any supposed gains in most cases.

Genetics AFTER all of that is like 40% or less of the equation. People largely underestimate fetal development.

Genotypes higher in genetic fitness are more resistant to suboptimal prenatal conditions. Thus, disproving your claim that prenatal factors matter to a significant degree.