The Truth About Limb Lengthening

[jfllcellular]

Many people say LL is a joke of a surgery with negative ROI. This is simply not the case.
Assume the only severe failo you have is your height, would it not be optimal to prioritize the weakest link?

"You can just use thicker shoes with lifts for an extra 2-3 inches bro"
LL and shoe lifts are not mutually exclusive retard.

OBVIOUSLY THE MORE EXTREME GAIN YOU GO FOR THE HARDER RECOVERY AND BEING ABLE TO ACHIEVE REGULAR ATHLETIC ABILITY. That is why I am using conservative increases, which will literally not really affect you physically in years after surgery.

If you are average height, LL is the highest ROI surgery you can get.
You can go from average to tall with a simple and extremely conservative (but still extremely painful) 2 inch gain. Obviously if you are in pure manlet territory things start to get really bleak.

5'4 to get to 5'6 or 5'7 is brutal, but objectively you would be treated better by humanity, ideally you would combine shoe lifts to be able to go essentially from 5'4 to 5'10
You would not be getting a premium but you would not be literally brutalized in every aspect of your pathetic existence.

"But LL is extremely expensive bro why not just put that money towards bimax or other facial surgeries"
1.) For face surgeries you have to know what to have work on and what to leave alone, way more serious consideration is required.
2.) LL is not as expensive as people make it seem

Everyone knows there is a height premium, the taller you are the more money you are likely to make. Every extra inch is about 800 extra per year.
This is essentially like a perpetuity.

THE PRICE.
Cheapest to Most Expensive (No shitty unknown surgeon or clinic)
Mangal Parihar- Mumbai, India. LON tibias 5-6cm, all in around 20k USD
Dimitrios Giotikas- Athens, Greece. Gnail Femur 5-8cm, all in around 50-60k
Dr. Paley(the founder)- West Palm Beach, Fl. precise 5-8cm, all in 100k+

The True Price, assuming the height premium average assuming 30 years of career
Parihar $20k -- 5-6cm (2-2.4 inches) x $800/yr = $1,600-1,920/yr x 30 years = $48-58k lifetime premium Pays for itself

GiotikAs $60k -- 5-8cm (2-3.1 inches) x $800/yr = $1,600-2,480/yr x 30 years = $48-74k lifetime premium -- Almost/ basically pays for itself

Paley $100k -- 5-8cm (2-3.1 inches) x $800/yr = $1,600-2,480/yr x 30 years = $48-74k lifetime premium (only really worth it if gigarich)

This is also not accounting for the unquantifiable benefit to your everyday life and confidence.

The cheaper you go the harder the actual recovery will be but the surgery itself has become extremely standardized. The recovery will be harder in cheaper places due to the fact that you will likely be in a shittier country with shittier amenities and physiotherapy.

What you should realistically only worry about is saving enough money in the first place and being able to endure the pain and recovery for a guaranteed better life for you. And if you are not willing to fight and work for a better life then you may as well just give up in life in the first place.

inb4 dnr

 

[Kainep]

 

[jfllcellular]

Literally an indian female getting this surgery btw, so really if an indian chick can do it but you can't i dont know what to tell you

 

[CalmFrog]

Many people say LL is a joke of a surgery with negative ROI. This is simply not the case.
Assume the only severe failo you have is your height, would it not be optimal to prioritize the weakest link?

"You can just use thicker shoes with lifts for an extra 2-3 inches bro"
LL and shoe lifts are not mutually exclusive retard.

OBVIOUSLY THE MORE EXTREME GAIN YOU GO FOR THE HARDER RECOVERY AND BEING ABLE TO ACHIEVE REGULAR ATHLETIC ABILITY. That is why I am using conservative increases, which will literally not really affect you physically in years after surgery.

If you are average height, LL is the highest ROI surgery you can get.
You can go from average to tall with a simple and extremely conservative (but still extremely painful) 2 inch gain. Obviously if you are in pure manlet territory things start to get really bleak.

5'4 to get to 5'6 or 5'7 is brutal, but objectively you would be treated better by humanity, ideally you would combine shoe lifts to be able to go essentially from 5'4 to 5'10
You would not be getting a premium but you would not be literally brutalized in every aspect of your pathetic existence.

"But LL is extremely expensive bro why not just put that money towards bimax or other facial surgeries"
1.) For face surgeries you have to know what to have work on and what to leave alone, way more serious consideration is required.
2.) LL is not as expensive as people make it seem

Everyone knows there is a height premium, the taller you are the more money you are likely to make. Every extra inch is about 800 extra per year.
This is essentially like a perpetuity.

THE PRICE.
Cheapest to Most Expensive (No shitty unknown surgeon or clinic)
Mangal Parihar- Mumbai, India. LON tibias 5-6cm, all in around 20k USD
Dimitrios Giotikas- Athens, Greece. Gnail Femur 5-8cm, all in around 50-60k
Dr. Paley(the founder)- West Palm Beach, Fl. precise 5-8cm, all in 100k+

The True Price, assuming the height premium average assuming 30 years of career
Parihar $20k -- 5-6cm (2-2.4 inches) x $800/yr = $1,600-1,920/yr x 30 years = $48-58k lifetime premium Pays for itself

GiotikAs $60k -- 5-8cm (2-3.1 inches) x $800/yr = $1,600-2,480/yr x 30 years = $48-74k lifetime premium -- Almost/ basically pays for itself

Paley $100k -- 5-8cm (2-3.1 inches) x $800/yr = $1,600-2,480/yr x 30 years = $48-74k lifetime premium (only really worth it if gigarich)

This is also not accounting for the unquantifiable benefit to your everyday life and confidence.

The cheaper you go the harder the actual recovery will be but the surgery itself has become extremely standardized. The recovery will be harder in cheaper places due to the fact that you will likely be in a shittier country with shittier amenities and physiotherapy.

What you should realistically only worry about is saving enough money in the first place and being able to endure the pain and recovery for a guaranteed better life for you. And if you are not willing to fight and work for a better life then you may as well just give up in life in the first place.

inb4 dnr

LL is not worth it for any healthy 5'6+ man. why would you ever settle for "Regular athletic ability", One of the best feelings in life is that high you get after running to your absolute limit, you should always strive to reach your physical limit, IMO A man shouldn't die without accomplishing something physically draining in his life (Ironman, Triathlon or the olympics), taking away your ability to achieve one of those is the stupidest thing you can ever do, all it will leave you with is pain and regret and the casual belief that "oh Iam taller now"

 

[jfllcellular]

LL is not worth it for any healthy 5'6+ man. why would you ever settle for "Regular athletic ability", One of the best feelings in life is that high you get after running to your absolute limit, you should always strive to reach your physical limit, IMO A man shouldn't die without accomplishing something physically draining in his life (Ironman, Triathlon or the olympics), taking away your ability to achieve one of those is the stupidest thing you can ever do, all it will leave you with is pain and regret and the casual belief that "oh Iam taller now"

Cope, unless your athletic ability is the only means for you to statusmaxx or earn a living that is purely egotistical. Plus conservative height increases will let you recover well. I am not talking about ultra extreme LL

 

[Firstname.Lastname]

Mumbai, India.

 

[CalmFrog]

purely egotistical.

That alone explains why you think its cope, it doesn't necessarily have to do with your ego. You have one life, you should make the most of it, getting taller can be an accomplishment to some but to the many it isnt even something to be proud about.

Summary of the first video is if you have medical problems (Discrepancy in leg height) LL is going to help you alot, other wise it can "Possibly make you a better athlete afterwards if you were untrained before" and dont get started on mr robot overthere, cyborg is a rare case, not everyone will reach his athletic prowess after LL, most will have long term mobility issues, even if they're subtle their still there

IMO For a healthy 5'6+ male who looks ok in the face without any deformity, you dont need LL, and if you do get LL, Iam 100% sure your decision was influenced due to an underlining lack of confidence, showing me 3 videos that dont show any numbers, two from the same guy and one from someone who uses a fucking pitch changer, isnt really a strong counter argument

 

[jfllcellular]

If you are considered tall you receive significantly more benefits socially.
You saying that as long as you are not less than 5'6 then do not get it is either cope because you are short or ignorance because you are already considered somewhat tall.
And for the videos I just pulled up the laziest examples, there are tons of success stories, even for the retards that go to shit clinics and genuinely gamble their life.
" You have one life, you should make the most of it" Agreed and therefore this is a logical conclusion to that statement.
I do see where you are coming from but it is just flawed

 

[Auricle]

Can you please elaborate on the appropriate proportions? for instance, how long should my legs ideally be? how about my arms/wingspan?

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[vanetto]

Many people say LL is a joke of a surgery with negative ROI. This is simply not the case.
Assume the only severe failo you have is your height, would it not be optimal to prioritize the weakest link?

"You can just use thicker shoes with lifts for an extra 2-3 inches bro"
LL and shoe lifts are not mutually exclusive retard.

OBVIOUSLY THE MORE EXTREME GAIN YOU GO FOR THE HARDER RECOVERY AND BEING ABLE TO ACHIEVE REGULAR ATHLETIC ABILITY. That is why I am using conservative increases, which will literally not really affect you physically in years after surgery.

If you are average height, LL is the highest ROI surgery you can get.
You can go from average to tall with a simple and extremely conservative (but still extremely painful) 2 inch gain. Obviously if you are in pure manlet territory things start to get really bleak.

5'4 to get to 5'6 or 5'7 is brutal, but objectively you would be treated better by humanity, ideally you would combine shoe lifts to be able to go essentially from 5'4 to 5'10
You would not be getting a premium but you would not be literally brutalized in every aspect of your pathetic existence.

"But LL is extremely expensive bro why not just put that money towards bimax or other facial surgeries"
1.) For face surgeries you have to know what to have work on and what to leave alone, way more serious consideration is required.
2.) LL is not as expensive as people make it seem

Everyone knows there is a height premium, the taller you are the more money you are likely to make. Every extra inch is about 800 extra per year.
This is essentially like a perpetuity.

THE PRICE.
Cheapest to Most Expensive (No shitty unknown surgeon or clinic)
Mangal Parihar- Mumbai, India. LON tibias 5-6cm, all in around 20k USD
Dimitrios Giotikas- Athens, Greece. Gnail Femur 5-8cm, all in around 50-60k
Dr. Paley(the founder)- West Palm Beach, Fl. precise 5-8cm, all in 100k+

The True Price, assuming the height premium average assuming 30 years of career
Parihar $20k -- 5-6cm (2-2.4 inches) x $800/yr = $1,600-1,920/yr x 30 years = $48-58k lifetime premium Pays for itself

GiotikAs $60k -- 5-8cm (2-3.1 inches) x $800/yr = $1,600-2,480/yr x 30 years = $48-74k lifetime premium -- Almost/ basically pays for itself

Paley $100k -- 5-8cm (2-3.1 inches) x $800/yr = $1,600-2,480/yr x 30 years = $48-74k lifetime premium (only really worth it if gigarich)

This is also not accounting for the unquantifiable benefit to your everyday life and confidence.

The cheaper you go the harder the actual recovery will be but the surgery itself has become extremely standardized. The recovery will be harder in cheaper places due to the fact that you will likely be in a shittier country with shittier amenities and physiotherapy.

What you should realistically only worry about is saving enough money in the first place and being able to endure the pain and recovery for a guaranteed better life for you. And if you are not willing to fight and work for a better life then you may as well just give up in life in the first place.

inb4 dnr

i wont read allat but im 100% sure that limb lengthening is NOT worth it

 

[jfllcellular]

Can you please elaborate on the appropriate proportions? for instance, how long should my legs ideally be? how about my arms/wingspan?

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If youre doing Limb lengthening only a modest amount your winspan does not matter. The only thing that kind of matters is femur to tibia ratio but if you are only looking between 5-6.5cm, proportions will not be weird unless you already had significantly weird proportions. Like if you have noticeably shorter arms even before the LL

 

[jfllcellular]

i wont read allat but im 100% sure that limb lengthening is NOT worth it

“Joined Sunday at 8:38 AM
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Maybe once you stop being afraid of bettering your life you will be able to achieve measurable results.

 

[vanetto]

“Joined Sunday at 8:38 AM
Reputation 11”
Maybe once you stop being afraid of bettering your life you will be able to achieve measurable results.

Im 6‘6 you idiot

 

[Kanarini]

On a theoretic base , why dont take steriods while you do a proccess like that? Taking peptrides like gh , for bone grotwth and after that, all the muscle building compounds , would accelerate the regaining mobility proccess.No?

 

[jfllcellular]

On a theoretic base , why dont take steriods while you do a proccess like that? Taking peptrides like gh , for bone grotwth and after that, all the muscle building compounds , would accelerate the regaining mobility proccess.No?

Yes it would. Ideally and theoretically, taking pth analogs and hgh during consolidation (not lengthening), would speed up your recovery. But you should not take that stuff while lengthening because you don’t want the bone to fuse early.

 

[jfllcellular]

Im 6‘6 you idiot

Ok then get the fuck out of here you fucking retard. You should genuinely be banned. Its like a nigga with a full head of hair saying hair transplants are not worth it. YOU ARE A NIGGER

 

[vanetto]

Ok then get the fuck out of here you fucking retard. You should genuinely be banned. Its like a nigga with a full head of hair saying hair transplants are not worth it. YOU ARE A NIGGER

cortisolmaxxer
genuinely stfu. limb lengthening is a bit more risky than a fucking hair transplant, dont you agree?
go get yourself a limb lengthening and go cry afterwards, when youre screaming because of your pain for a few cm you dumbass

 

[jfllcellular]

your iq needs to be genuinely studied. Little girls literally do this surgery you retard its not some crazy surgery you wont survive. Nigga you joined yesterday actually go back to reddit

 

[adarsh arya]

Literally an indian female getting this surgery btw, so really if an indian chick can do it but you can't i dont know what to tell you

BROOTAL CONFIDENCEPILL

 

[rares54]

cortisolmaxxer
genuinely stfu. limb lengthening is a bit more risky than a fucking hair transplant, dont you agree?
go get yourself a limb lengthening and go cry afterwards, when youre screaming because of your pain for a few cm you dumbass

niggas like YOU will never understand, you're having a giga bluepill perspective on this just because you're 6'6

if you were 5'4 you would've been treated like shit and probably considered this surgery too

 

[vanetto]

niggas like YOU will never understand, you're having a giga bluepill perspective on this just because you're 6'6

if you were 5'4 you would've been treated like shit and probably considered this surgery too

Nah i wouldn‘t. Y‘all are genuinely tripping. Look at all that pain and suffering that patients go through. That’s one of the most painful surgery‘s rn. It‘s NOT worth it, no matter if im 6‘6 or 5‘4 Just wear height inserts

 

[rares54]

Nah i wouldn‘t. Y‘all are genuinely tripping. Look at all that pain and suffering that patients go through. That’s one of the most painful surgery‘s rn. It‘s NOT worth it, no matter if im 6‘6 or 5‘4 Just wear height inserts

Nigga u make it seem its like getting hit by a truck

Look at dr paleys patients, literal children getting ll for non-cosmetic purposes, yet u never see them complain

As long as u dont overlengthen and have the money for it to go to a reputable surgeon ur good

 

[rares54]

Nah i wouldn‘t. Y‘all are genuinely tripping. Look at all that pain and suffering that patients go through. That’s one of the most painful surgery‘s rn. It‘s NOT worth it, no matter if im 6‘6 or 5‘4 Just wear height inserts

Also just shut up bruh, ur 6’6

When i larped to foids i was 6’3 they were so friendly to me, im 5’10

 

[vanetto]

Nigga u make it seem its like getting hit by a truck

Look at dr paleys patients, literal children getting ll for non-cosmetic purposes, yet u never see them complain

As long as u dont overlengthen and have the money for it to go to a reputable surgeon ur good

Bro, either you're wrong or I am. I've heard from the patients who were interviewed that they had to scream at night because the pain was unbearable. I think we're talking about completely different levels of severity.

 

[qwertyqwerty]

2in doesn’t seem worth it for me but maybe I’m just oblivious

 

[rares54]

Bro, either you're wrong or I am. I've heard from the patients who were interviewed that they had to scream at night because the pain was unbearable. I think we're talking about completely different levels of severity.

ofc ur gonna have pain bro, im talking long-term benefits, not during the actual procedure

many users make it seem like ur gonna be forever crippled, but like i stated its highly unlikely if you stretch / do rehab everyday for your muscles + dont overlengthen, your bones will be as strong as before

 

[jfllcellular]

2in doesn’t seem worth it for me but maybe I’m just oblivious

if you are within a St deviation of the mean, 2 inches is a lot. So if you are between 5'6 to 6' but more importantly, near the middle.

• Around the middle (5'8"–5'11"), a 2-inch increase moves you up about 25% of the population.
• Gains are slightly smaller at the lower and upper ends because of the bell curve shape.

And yes you can achieve this 25% increase by using just height boosters but since the barrier of entry to height boosters is so low it really only matters what your base height is.

For example 5'8+ 2inch LL + 2.5 inch shoes and you get to 5'11.5. From taller than ~37% → to taller than ~85% of men