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The Ultimate Botox Guide

In this thread you will learn everything you need to know about botox how to use it and my experience with it.



Table of contents:
1. Everything About Botox
2. How to Do Botox DIY
3. My Experience with Botox

Let's get started then, shall we?




1. Everything About Botox

Botox is a purified protein made from the bacterium Clostridium botulinum. In controlled doses (therefore no botulism), it temporarily relaxes muscles by blocking nerve signals. It’s widely used for cosmetic treatments (like wrinkle reduction) and medical conditions (like migraines or muscle spasms). Despite its origin from a toxin, it’s considered safe when done by "trained professionals" (or looksmaxxers 😉).​
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1.1. What Botox Actually Is

Botox contains "botulinum toxin type A", one of several forms of the botulinum toxin.​
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It works by blocking acetylcholine, a chemical that tells muscles to contract.​
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The result: the targeted muscle relaxes (or shrinks) for several months.



1.2. Cosmetic Uses

Botox is most famous for reducing wrinkles, caused by facial movement.​
But it can also be used to improve other facial flaws caused by muscle activity.​

Common treatment areas:
  • Forehead lines
  • Frown lines (between the eyebrows)
  • Crow’s feet (around the eyes)
  • Lip lines / lip flip
  • Jaw slimming (masseter) => what I did
  • Downward mouth corners => what I did
Results usually:
  • Appear 3–7 days after injection
  • Peak around 2 weeks
  • Last 3–4 months
=> Not a permanent solution, the procedure needs to be repeated every 3-4 months. But it's worth it imo, because it only takes a few minutes.



1.3. Side Effects

Most side effects are mild and temporary!

Common:
  • Small bruises
  • Swelling
  • Headache
  • Mild asymmetry
Rare:
  • Dry eyes or excessive tearing
  • Difficulty swallowing (in neck treatments)
  • Flu-like symptoms
  • Botulism (impossible if done properly)
=> Serious complications are very rare when done properly.



1.4. Who Should Avoid Botox

Botox is not recommended if you:

  • Have neuromuscular disorders
  • Are allergic to botulinum toxin ingredients
  • Have an infection at the injection site



1.5. Costs

Professionally:

Typical pricing models:
  • Per unit: €8–€15 per unit
  • Per area: €150–€400

DIY (what we are doing 🤫):

Roughly 0.4$ per unit​
=> ≈40$ per session​

JFL at everyone who doesn't do it DIY. Unless you're a millionaire it's not worth the 2500% up price.



1.6. Approximate Units Needed:

Forehead: 10–30 units​
Mouth corners (DAO): 8–12 units (combined)​
Masseter: 50–70 units (combined)​
Nostrils: 4 units (combined)​
=> These are just a few examples​



1.7. Common Misconceptions:

Myth: Botox is permanent.
Reality: Effects wear off in months.
Myth: Botox is only for wrinkles.
Reality: Precise treatments can change your face far more (for example masseter botox will shrink the muscle, making your face slimmer).
Myth: Botox works like filler.
Reality: Completely different effects.



1.8. Long-Term Effects
  • Weaker wrinkle formation over time
  • Muscles slightly shrinking from lack of use
  • Longer intervals between treatments
  • There is no evidence of serious long term harm


1.9. Summary

Botox is a purified neurotoxin used medically and cosmetically to relax muscles. When injected in small doses, it temporarily smooths wrinkles and shrinks muscles over time with effects lasting about 3–4 months.​



2. How to Do Botox DIY

Now let's get to the juicy part :feelshehe:
Here's an in-depth guide on how to do botox at home.​

2.1. Preparation

Before you do anything else, you should start by researching these things:

a) How does botox work?
For this you can simply read the first part of the thread or do extra research.​

b) What procedures do you want to do?
For this, use you should start by using common sense. Can paralysing a muscle achieve what I want to change? If you're unsure, google for example: "can botox make my mouth wider?"
If you get a result, start with c).​

c) Plan the procedure
You should research how many units of botox you need, you should study excessively where the muscle is and where you definitely shouldn't be pinning. Also research the depth of the injection! Keep in mind, botox can spread for about 1cm.​

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2.2. Needed Utensils / Ordering

2.2.1 Utensils needed for the procedure

Needed:
  • Botox (botulinum toxin type A)
  • Saline 0.9% solution
  • Syringes with fitting needle lengths (insulin syringes will be enough)
  • Alcohol wipes
Optional:
  • Lidocaine cream (didn't hurt even without)
  • Medical gloves

2.2.2.Ordering:

I ordered Wondertox from meamoshop.com​
They shipped everything needed in one package. This can be quite useful.​



2.3. How to Reconstitute

1. As soon as the package arrives, store the saline and botox in a refrigerator.​
2. When you plan on using it, start reconstitution shortly before. If you need help with the math, watch this:​

If you use insulin syringes and 100units botox, you can use 2.5ml saline so that 0.1ml = 4 units Botox.​
Keep in mind: units on the syringe ≠ ml !​



2.4. Preparing for the Procedure

2.4.1. Loading up the syringes

1) Calculate the desired amount of units per injection.​
2) Load up the syringes with the desired amount of units you want to use per injection (you can use the same syringe twice if you don't want to be wasteful. Just load up the amount for 2 injections).​
3) Put the cap back on the syringe and move on.​


2.4.2. Face preparation

1) Wash your face to get rid of bacteria.​
2) Get something to hold back your hair if needed.​
3) (optional) Apply Lidocaine/numbing cream and let it sit for 30 minutes (I did without and it barely even hurt).​


2.4.3. Marking the injection points

Earlier we already determined the amount of injection points needed for every procedure and where we put them.​
1) Use alcohol wipes to clean the area again and let it dry.​
2) Mark the injection points with something (I used a brow pen).​



2.5. Injecting

1) Pick the syringe with the correct amount of units you prepared earlier.​
2) Insert the needle as deep as you determined to ho earlier. Depth will vary drastically based on the procedure. Also keep the angle in mind if needed.​
3) Inject slowly. We don't want the solution to spread uncontrollably.​



2.6. Aftercare
  • Keep your head up for the next few hours
  • Sleep on your back the same night to prevent the toxin to spread
  • Don't touch the muscles or use them too much
  • Don't cause any unnecessary strain on the body (working out/sport, hot showers or sauna,... Just don't be a retard and sit for a few hours)




3. My Experience with Botox

I did Botox because I felt like it could improve some crucial flaws about my face. For example, my face is pretty wide, and my masseter muscles are quite developed, partly because I had orthodontics for about 8 years, which basically forced me to use my muscles all the time.​
So in order to make my face less wide and appear slimmer, I decided to do masseter Botox. This procedure is pretty straightforward. You inject large amounts of the toxin to nuke the muscle and lose volume in the area.​
Next, I opted for a mouth widening procedure because my mouth-to-nose ratio is pretty off. The mouth widening procedure works by relaxing the Depressor Anguli Oris (DAO), which pull down your mouth corners, making it look less wide.​
At last, I decided to do a nose slimming procedure again to improve my mouth-to-nose ratio, because a slimmer nose is always more attractive.​



3.1. Masseter Botox

I started with the masseter procedure. I followed everything I described in the second part of this thread. The pain was very little, even though I didn't use a numbing cream. I used 30 units per side, and I did five injections per side. The depth of the injections varied between 8mm and 11mm.​
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updated in a few weeks
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3.2. Mouth Widening

Next, I did the mouth widening procedure. I tracked the muscle and I injected 3 and 2 units in two injection points on every side. Again, the pain was non existent, especially because the injection was very shallow, only 3mm deep.​
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updated in a few weeks
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3.3. Nose Slimming

At last, I did the nose slimming procedure. I injected 2 units in each nostril. This was quite difficult and quite painful. I struggled a lot and I'm questioning if it even worked.​
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updated in a few weeks
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There you go my children. Read everything carefully and do your own research if you still have questions.
As stated before, there are many procedures you can use Botox for. I wouldn't really focus on the wrinkles part, because it can look uncanny/gay very quickly.
Have fun and be careful, I'm not a trained doctor and I don't take responsibility for any failures.
 
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The Ultimate Botox Guide

In this thread you will learn everything you need to know about botox how to use it and my experience with it.



Table of contents:
1. Everything About Botox
2. How to do botox DIY
3. My Experience with Botox

Let's get started then, shall we?




1. Everything About Botox

Botox is a purified protein made from the bacterium Clostridium botulinum. In controlled doses (therefore no botulism), it temporarily relaxes muscles by blocking nerve signals. It’s widely used for cosmetic treatments (like wrinkle reduction) and medical conditions (like migraines or muscle spasms). Despite its origin from a toxin, it’s considered safe when done by "trained professionals" (or looksmaxxers 😉).​

1.1. What Botox Actually Is

Botox contains "botulinum toxin type A", one of several forms of the botulinum toxin.​
It works by blocking acetylcholine, a chemical that tells muscles to contract.​

The result: the targeted muscle relaxes (or shrinks) for several months.



1.2. Cosmetic Uses

Botox is most famous for reducing wrinkles, caused by facial movement.​
But it can also be used to improve other facial flaws caused by muscle activity.​

Common treatment areas:
  • Forehead lines
  • Frown lines (between the eyebrows)
  • Crow’s feet (around the eyes)
  • Lip lines / lip flip
  • Jaw slimming (masseter) => what I did
  • Downward mouth corners => what I did
Results usually:
  • Appear 3–7 days after injection
  • Peak around 2 weeks
  • Last 3–4 months
=> Not a permanent solution, the procedure needs to be repeated every 3-4 months. But it's worth it imo, because it only takes a few minutes.



1.3. Side Effects

Most side effects are mild and temporary!

Common:
  • Small bruises
  • Swelling
  • Headache
  • Mild asymmetry
Rare:
  • Dry eyes or excessive tearing
  • Difficulty swallowing (in neck treatments)
  • Flu-like symptoms
  • Botulism (impossible if done properly)
=> Serious complications are very rare when done properly.



1.4. Who Should Avoid Botox

Botox is not recommended if you:

  • Have neuromuscular disorders
  • Are allergic to botulinum toxin ingredients
  • Have an infection at the injection site



1.5. Costs

Professionally:

Typical pricing models:
  • Per unit: €8–€15 per unit
  • Per area: €150–€400

DIY (what we are doing 🤫):

Roughly 0.4$ per unit​
=> ≈40$ per session​

JFL at everyone who doesn't do it DIY. Unless you're a millionaire it's not worth the 2500% up price.



1.6. Approximate Units Needed:

Forehead: 10–30 units​
Mouth corners (DAO): 8–12 units (combined)​
Masseter: 50–70 units (combined)​
Nostrils: 4 units (combined)​
=> These are just a few examples​



1.7. Common Misconceptions:

Myth: Botox is permanent.
Reality: Effects wear off in months.
Myth: Botox is only for wrinkles.
Reality: Precise treatments can change your face far more (for example masseter botox will shrink the muscle, making your face slimmer).
Myth: Botox works like filler.
Reality: Completely different effects.



1.8. Long-Term Effects
  • Weaker wrinkle formation over time
  • Muscles slightly shrinking from lack of use
  • Longer intervals between treatments
  • There is no evidence of serious long term harm


1.9. Summary

Botox is a purified neurotoxin used medically and cosmetically to relax muscles. When injected in small doses, it temporarily smooths wrinkles and shrinks muscles over time with effects lasting about 3–4 months.​



2. How to Do Botox DIY

Now let's get to the juicy part :feelshehe:
Here's an in-depth guide on how to do botox at home.​

2.1. Preparation

Before you do anything else, you should start by researching these things:

a) How does botox work?
For this you can simply read the first part of the thread or do extra research.​

b) What procedures do you want to do?
For this, use you should start by using common sense. Can paralysing a muscle achieve what I want to change? If you're unsure, google for example: "can botox make my mouth wider?"
If you get a result, start with c).​

c) Plan the procedure
You should research how many units of botox you need, you should study excessively where the muscle is and where you definitely shouldn't be pinning. Also research the depth of the injection! Keep in mind, botox can spread for about 1cm.​




2.2. Needed Utensils / Ordering

2.2.1 Utensils needed for the procedure

Needed:
  • Botox (botulinum toxin type A)
  • Saline 0.9% solution
  • Syringes with fitting needle lengths (insulin syringes will be enough)
  • Alcohol wipes
Optional:
  • Lidocaine cream (didn't hurt even without)
  • Medical gloves

2.2.2.Ordering:

I ordered Wondertox from meamoshop.com​
They shipped everything needed in one package. This can be quite useful.​



2.3. How to Reconstitute

1. As soon as the package arrives, store the saline and botox in a refrigerator.​
2. When you plan on using it, start reconstitution shortly before. If you need help with the math, watch this:​

If you use insulin syringes and 100units botox, you can use 2.5ml saline so that 0.1ml = 4 units Botox.​
Keep in mind: units on the syringe ≠ ml !​



2.4. Preparing for the Procedure

2.4.1. Loading up the syringes

1) Calculate the desired amount of units per injection.​
2) Load up the syringes with the desired amount of units you want to use per injection (you can use the same syringe twice if you don't want to be wasteful. Just load up the amount for 2 injections).​
3) Put the cap back on the syringe and move on.​


2.4.2. Face preparation

1) Wash your face to get rid of bacteria.​
2) Get something to hold back your hair if needed.​
3) (optional) Apply Lidocaine/numbing cream and let it sit for 30 minutes (I did without and it barely even hurt).​


2.4.3. Marking the injection points

Earlier we already determined the amount of injection points needed for every procedure and where we put them.​
1) Use alcohol wipes to clean the area again and let it dry.​
2) Mark the injection points with something (I used a brow pen).​



2.5. Injecting

1) Pick the syringe with the correct amount of units you prepared earlier.​
2) Insert the needle as deep as you determined to ho earlier. Depth will vary drastically based on the procedure. Also keep the angle in mind if needed.​
3) Inject slowly. We don't want the solution to spread uncontrollably.​



2.6. Aftercare
  • Keep your head up for the next few hours
  • Sleep on your back the same night to prevent the toxin to spread
  • Don't touch the muscles or use them too much
  • Don't cause any unnecessary strain on the body (working out/sport, hot showers or sauna,... Just don't be a retard and sit for a few hours)




3. My Experience with Botox

I did Botox because I felt like it could improve some crucial flaws about my face. For example, my face is pretty wide, and my masseter muscles are quite developed, partly because I had orthodontics for about 8 years, which basically forced me to use my muscles all the time.​
So in order to make my face less wide and appear slimmer, I decided to do masseter Botox. This procedure is pretty straightforward. You inject large amounts of the toxin to nuke the muscle and lose volume in the area.​
Next, I opted for a mouth widening procedure because my mouth-to-nose ratio is pretty off. The mouth widening procedure works by relaxing the Depressor Anguli Oris (DAO), which pull down your mouth corners, making it look less wide.​
At last, I decided to do a nose slimming procedure again to improve my mouth-to-nose ratio, because a slimmer nose is always more attractive.​



3.1. Masseter Botox

I started with the masseter procedure. I followed everything I described in the second part of this thread. The pain was very little, even though I didn't use a numbing cream. I used 30 units per side, and I did five injections per side. The depth of the injections varied between 8mm and 11mm.​
updated in a few weeks



3.2. Mouth Widening

Next, I did the mouth widening procedure. I tracked the muscle and I injected 3 and 2 units in two injection points on every side. Again, the pain was non existent, especially because the injection was very shallow, only 3mm deep.​
updated in a few weeks


3.3. Nose Slimming

At last, I did the nose slimming procedure. I injected 2 units in each nostril. This was quite difficult and quite painful. I struggled a lot and I'm questioning if it even worked.​
updated in a few weeks




There you go my children. Read everything carefully and do your own research if you still have questions.
As stated before, there are many procedures you can use Botox for. I wouldn't really focus on the wrinkles part, because it can look uncanny/gay very quickly.
Have fun and be careful, I'm not a trained doctor and I don't take responsibility for any failures.

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The Ultimate Botox Guide

In this thread you will learn everything you need to know about botox how to use it and my experience with it.



Table of contents:
1. Everything About Botox
2. How to do botox DIY
3. My Experience with Botox

Let's get started then, shall we?




1. Everything About Botox

Botox is a purified protein made from the bacterium Clostridium botulinum. In controlled doses (therefore no botulism), it temporarily relaxes muscles by blocking nerve signals. It’s widely used for cosmetic treatments (like wrinkle reduction) and medical conditions (like migraines or muscle spasms). Despite its origin from a toxin, it’s considered safe when done by "trained professionals" (or looksmaxxers 😉).​

1.1. What Botox Actually Is

Botox contains "botulinum toxin type A", one of several forms of the botulinum toxin.​
It works by blocking acetylcholine, a chemical that tells muscles to contract.​

The result: the targeted muscle relaxes (or shrinks) for several months.



1.2. Cosmetic Uses

Botox is most famous for reducing wrinkles, caused by facial movement.​
But it can also be used to improve other facial flaws caused by muscle activity.​

Common treatment areas:
  • Forehead lines
  • Frown lines (between the eyebrows)
  • Crow’s feet (around the eyes)
  • Lip lines / lip flip
  • Jaw slimming (masseter) => what I did
  • Downward mouth corners => what I did
Results usually:
  • Appear 3–7 days after injection
  • Peak around 2 weeks
  • Last 3–4 months
=> Not a permanent solution, the procedure needs to be repeated every 3-4 months. But it's worth it imo, because it only takes a few minutes.



1.3. Side Effects

Most side effects are mild and temporary!

Common:
  • Small bruises
  • Swelling
  • Headache
  • Mild asymmetry
Rare:
  • Dry eyes or excessive tearing
  • Difficulty swallowing (in neck treatments)
  • Flu-like symptoms
  • Botulism (impossible if done properly)
=> Serious complications are very rare when done properly.



1.4. Who Should Avoid Botox

Botox is not recommended if you:

  • Have neuromuscular disorders
  • Are allergic to botulinum toxin ingredients
  • Have an infection at the injection site



1.5. Costs

Professionally:

Typical pricing models:
  • Per unit: €8–€15 per unit
  • Per area: €150–€400

DIY (what we are doing 🤫):

Roughly 0.4$ per unit​
=> ≈40$ per session​

JFL at everyone who doesn't do it DIY. Unless you're a millionaire it's not worth the 2500% up price.



1.6. Approximate Units Needed:

Forehead: 10–30 units​
Mouth corners (DAO): 8–12 units (combined)​
Masseter: 50–70 units (combined)​
Nostrils: 4 units (combined)​
=> These are just a few examples​



1.7. Common Misconceptions:

Myth: Botox is permanent.
Reality: Effects wear off in months.
Myth: Botox is only for wrinkles.
Reality: Precise treatments can change your face far more (for example masseter botox will shrink the muscle, making your face slimmer).
Myth: Botox works like filler.
Reality: Completely different effects.



1.8. Long-Term Effects
  • Weaker wrinkle formation over time
  • Muscles slightly shrinking from lack of use
  • Longer intervals between treatments
  • There is no evidence of serious long term harm


1.9. Summary

Botox is a purified neurotoxin used medically and cosmetically to relax muscles. When injected in small doses, it temporarily smooths wrinkles and shrinks muscles over time with effects lasting about 3–4 months.​



2. How to Do Botox DIY

Now let's get to the juicy part :feelshehe:
Here's an in-depth guide on how to do botox at home.​

2.1. Preparation

Before you do anything else, you should start by researching these things:

a) How does botox work?
For this you can simply read the first part of the thread or do extra research.​

b) What procedures do you want to do?
For this, use you should start by using common sense. Can paralysing a muscle achieve what I want to change? If you're unsure, google for example: "can botox make my mouth wider?"
If you get a result, start with c).​

c) Plan the procedure
You should research how many units of botox you need, you should study excessively where the muscle is and where you definitely shouldn't be pinning. Also research the depth of the injection! Keep in mind, botox can spread for about 1cm.​




2.2. Needed Utensils / Ordering

2.2.1 Utensils needed for the procedure

Needed:
  • Botox (botulinum toxin type A)
  • Saline 0.9% solution
  • Syringes with fitting needle lengths (insulin syringes will be enough)
  • Alcohol wipes
Optional:
  • Lidocaine cream (didn't hurt even without)
  • Medical gloves

2.2.2.Ordering:

I ordered Wondertox from meamoshop.com​
They shipped everything needed in one package. This can be quite useful.​



2.3. How to Reconstitute

1. As soon as the package arrives, store the saline and botox in a refrigerator.​
2. When you plan on using it, start reconstitution shortly before. If you need help with the math, watch this:​

If you use insulin syringes and 100units botox, you can use 2.5ml saline so that 0.1ml = 4 units Botox.​
Keep in mind: units on the syringe ≠ ml !​



2.4. Preparing for the Procedure

2.4.1. Loading up the syringes

1) Calculate the desired amount of units per injection.​
2) Load up the syringes with the desired amount of units you want to use per injection (you can use the same syringe twice if you don't want to be wasteful. Just load up the amount for 2 injections).​
3) Put the cap back on the syringe and move on.​


2.4.2. Face preparation

1) Wash your face to get rid of bacteria.​
2) Get something to hold back your hair if needed.​
3) (optional) Apply Lidocaine/numbing cream and let it sit for 30 minutes (I did without and it barely even hurt).​


2.4.3. Marking the injection points

Earlier we already determined the amount of injection points needed for every procedure and where we put them.​
1) Use alcohol wipes to clean the area again and let it dry.​
2) Mark the injection points with something (I used a brow pen).​



2.5. Injecting

1) Pick the syringe with the correct amount of units you prepared earlier.​
2) Insert the needle as deep as you determined to ho earlier. Depth will vary drastically based on the procedure. Also keep the angle in mind if needed.​
3) Inject slowly. We don't want the solution to spread uncontrollably.​



2.6. Aftercare
  • Keep your head up for the next few hours
  • Sleep on your back the same night to prevent the toxin to spread
  • Don't touch the muscles or use them too much
  • Don't cause any unnecessary strain on the body (working out/sport, hot showers or sauna,... Just don't be a retard and sit for a few hours)




3. My Experience with Botox

I did Botox because I felt like it could improve some crucial flaws about my face. For example, my face is pretty wide, and my masseter muscles are quite developed, partly because I had orthodontics for about 8 years, which basically forced me to use my muscles all the time.​
So in order to make my face less wide and appear slimmer, I decided to do masseter Botox. This procedure is pretty straightforward. You inject large amounts of the toxin to nuke the muscle and lose volume in the area.​
Next, I opted for a mouth widening procedure because my mouth-to-nose ratio is pretty off. The mouth widening procedure works by relaxing the Depressor Anguli Oris (DAO), which pull down your mouth corners, making it look less wide.​
At last, I decided to do a nose slimming procedure again to improve my mouth-to-nose ratio, because a slimmer nose is always more attractive.​



3.1. Masseter Botox

I started with the masseter procedure. I followed everything I described in the second part of this thread. The pain was very little, even though I didn't use a numbing cream. I used 30 units per side, and I did five injections per side. The depth of the injections varied between 8mm and 11mm.​
updated in a few weeks



3.2. Mouth Widening

Next, I did the mouth widening procedure. I tracked the muscle and I injected 3 and 2 units in two injection points on every side. Again, the pain was non existent, especially because the injection was very shallow, only 3mm deep.​
updated in a few weeks


3.3. Nose Slimming

At last, I did the nose slimming procedure. I injected 2 units in each nostril. This was quite difficult and quite painful. I struggled a lot and I'm questioning if it even worked.​
updated in a few weeks




There you go my children. Read everything carefully and do your own research if you still have questions.
As stated before, there are many procedures you can use Botox for. I wouldn't really focus on the wrinkles part, because it can look uncanny/gay very quickly.
Have fun and be careful, I'm not a trained doctor and I don't take responsibility for any failures.

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The Ultimate Botox Guide

In this thread you will learn everything you need to know about botox how to use it and my experience with it.



Table of contents:
1. Everything About Botox
2. How to Do Botox DIY
3. My Experience with Botox

Let's get started then, shall we?




1. Everything About Botox

Botox is a purified protein made from the bacterium Clostridium botulinum. In controlled doses (therefore no botulism), it temporarily relaxes muscles by blocking nerve signals. It’s widely used for cosmetic treatments (like wrinkle reduction) and medical conditions (like migraines or muscle spasms). Despite its origin from a toxin, it’s considered safe when done by "trained professionals" (or looksmaxxers 😉).​

1.1. What Botox Actually Is

Botox contains "botulinum toxin type A", one of several forms of the botulinum toxin.​
It works by blocking acetylcholine, a chemical that tells muscles to contract.​

The result: the targeted muscle relaxes (or shrinks) for several months.



1.2. Cosmetic Uses

Botox is most famous for reducing wrinkles, caused by facial movement.​
But it can also be used to improve other facial flaws caused by muscle activity.​

Common treatment areas:
  • Forehead lines
  • Frown lines (between the eyebrows)
  • Crow’s feet (around the eyes)
  • Lip lines / lip flip
  • Jaw slimming (masseter) => what I did
  • Downward mouth corners => what I did
Results usually:
  • Appear 3–7 days after injection
  • Peak around 2 weeks
  • Last 3–4 months
=> Not a permanent solution, the procedure needs to be repeated every 3-4 months. But it's worth it imo, because it only takes a few minutes.



1.3. Side Effects

Most side effects are mild and temporary!

Common:
  • Small bruises
  • Swelling
  • Headache
  • Mild asymmetry
Rare:
  • Dry eyes or excessive tearing
  • Difficulty swallowing (in neck treatments)
  • Flu-like symptoms
  • Botulism (impossible if done properly)
=> Serious complications are very rare when done properly.



1.4. Who Should Avoid Botox

Botox is not recommended if you:

  • Have neuromuscular disorders
  • Are allergic to botulinum toxin ingredients
  • Have an infection at the injection site



1.5. Costs

Professionally:

Typical pricing models:
  • Per unit: €8–€15 per unit
  • Per area: €150–€400

DIY (what we are doing 🤫):

Roughly 0.4$ per unit​
=> ≈40$ per session​

JFL at everyone who doesn't do it DIY. Unless you're a millionaire it's not worth the 2500% up price.



1.6. Approximate Units Needed:

Forehead: 10–30 units​
Mouth corners (DAO): 8–12 units (combined)​
Masseter: 50–70 units (combined)​
Nostrils: 4 units (combined)​
=> These are just a few examples​



1.7. Common Misconceptions:

Myth: Botox is permanent.
Reality: Effects wear off in months.
Myth: Botox is only for wrinkles.
Reality: Precise treatments can change your face far more (for example masseter botox will shrink the muscle, making your face slimmer).
Myth: Botox works like filler.
Reality: Completely different effects.



1.8. Long-Term Effects
  • Weaker wrinkle formation over time
  • Muscles slightly shrinking from lack of use
  • Longer intervals between treatments
  • There is no evidence of serious long term harm


1.9. Summary

Botox is a purified neurotoxin used medically and cosmetically to relax muscles. When injected in small doses, it temporarily smooths wrinkles and shrinks muscles over time with effects lasting about 3–4 months.​



2. How to Do Botox DIY

Now let's get to the juicy part :feelshehe:
Here's an in-depth guide on how to do botox at home.​

2.1. Preparation

Before you do anything else, you should start by researching these things:

a) How does botox work?
For this you can simply read the first part of the thread or do extra research.​

b) What procedures do you want to do?
For this, use you should start by using common sense. Can paralysing a muscle achieve what I want to change? If you're unsure, google for example: "can botox make my mouth wider?"
If you get a result, start with c).​

c) Plan the procedure
You should research how many units of botox you need, you should study excessively where the muscle is and where you definitely shouldn't be pinning. Also research the depth of the injection! Keep in mind, botox can spread for about 1cm.​




2.2. Needed Utensils / Ordering

2.2.1 Utensils needed for the procedure

Needed:
  • Botox (botulinum toxin type A)
  • Saline 0.9% solution
  • Syringes with fitting needle lengths (insulin syringes will be enough)
  • Alcohol wipes
Optional:
  • Lidocaine cream (didn't hurt even without)
  • Medical gloves

2.2.2.Ordering:

I ordered Wondertox from meamoshop.com​
They shipped everything needed in one package. This can be quite useful.​



2.3. How to Reconstitute

1. As soon as the package arrives, store the saline and botox in a refrigerator.​
2. When you plan on using it, start reconstitution shortly before. If you need help with the math, watch this:​

If you use insulin syringes and 100units botox, you can use 2.5ml saline so that 0.1ml = 4 units Botox.​
Keep in mind: units on the syringe ≠ ml !​



2.4. Preparing for the Procedure

2.4.1. Loading up the syringes

1) Calculate the desired amount of units per injection.​
2) Load up the syringes with the desired amount of units you want to use per injection (you can use the same syringe twice if you don't want to be wasteful. Just load up the amount for 2 injections).​
3) Put the cap back on the syringe and move on.​


2.4.2. Face preparation

1) Wash your face to get rid of bacteria.​
2) Get something to hold back your hair if needed.​
3) (optional) Apply Lidocaine/numbing cream and let it sit for 30 minutes (I did without and it barely even hurt).​


2.4.3. Marking the injection points

Earlier we already determined the amount of injection points needed for every procedure and where we put them.​
1) Use alcohol wipes to clean the area again and let it dry.​
2) Mark the injection points with something (I used a brow pen).​



2.5. Injecting

1) Pick the syringe with the correct amount of units you prepared earlier.​
2) Insert the needle as deep as you determined to ho earlier. Depth will vary drastically based on the procedure. Also keep the angle in mind if needed.​
3) Inject slowly. We don't want the solution to spread uncontrollably.​



2.6. Aftercare
  • Keep your head up for the next few hours
  • Sleep on your back the same night to prevent the toxin to spread
  • Don't touch the muscles or use them too much
  • Don't cause any unnecessary strain on the body (working out/sport, hot showers or sauna,... Just don't be a retard and sit for a few hours)




3. My Experience with Botox

I did Botox because I felt like it could improve some crucial flaws about my face. For example, my face is pretty wide, and my masseter muscles are quite developed, partly because I had orthodontics for about 8 years, which basically forced me to use my muscles all the time.​
So in order to make my face less wide and appear slimmer, I decided to do masseter Botox. This procedure is pretty straightforward. You inject large amounts of the toxin to nuke the muscle and lose volume in the area.​
Next, I opted for a mouth widening procedure because my mouth-to-nose ratio is pretty off. The mouth widening procedure works by relaxing the Depressor Anguli Oris (DAO), which pull down your mouth corners, making it look less wide.​
At last, I decided to do a nose slimming procedure again to improve my mouth-to-nose ratio, because a slimmer nose is always more attractive.​



3.1. Masseter Botox

I started with the masseter procedure. I followed everything I described in the second part of this thread. The pain was very little, even though I didn't use a numbing cream. I used 30 units per side, and I did five injections per side. The depth of the injections varied between 8mm and 11mm.​
updated in a few weeks



3.2. Mouth Widening

Next, I did the mouth widening procedure. I tracked the muscle and I injected 3 and 2 units in two injection points on every side. Again, the pain was non existent, especially because the injection was very shallow, only 3mm deep.​
updated in a few weeks


3.3. Nose Slimming

At last, I did the nose slimming procedure. I injected 2 units in each nostril. This was quite difficult and quite painful. I struggled a lot and I'm questioning if it even worked.​
updated in a few weeks




There you go my children. Read everything carefully and do your own research if you still have questions.
As stated before, there are many procedures you can use Botox for. I wouldn't really focus on the wrinkles part, because it can look uncanny/gay very quickly.
Have fun and be careful, I'm not a trained doctor and I don't take responsibility for any failures.

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In this thread you will learn everything you need to know about botox how to use it and my experience with it.



Table of contents:
1. Everything About Botox
2. How to Do Botox DIY
3. My Experience with Botox

Let's get started then, shall we?




1. Everything About Botox

Botox is a purified protein made from the bacterium Clostridium botulinum. In controlled doses (therefore no botulism), it temporarily relaxes muscles by blocking nerve signals. It’s widely used for cosmetic treatments (like wrinkle reduction) and medical conditions (like migraines or muscle spasms). Despite its origin from a toxin, it’s considered safe when done by "trained professionals" (or looksmaxxers 😉).​

1.1. What Botox Actually Is

Botox contains "botulinum toxin type A", one of several forms of the botulinum toxin.​
It works by blocking acetylcholine, a chemical that tells muscles to contract.​

The result: the targeted muscle relaxes (or shrinks) for several months.



1.2. Cosmetic Uses

Botox is most famous for reducing wrinkles, caused by facial movement.​
But it can also be used to improve other facial flaws caused by muscle activity.​

Common treatment areas:
  • Forehead lines
  • Frown lines (between the eyebrows)
  • Crow’s feet (around the eyes)
  • Lip lines / lip flip
  • Jaw slimming (masseter) => what I did
  • Downward mouth corners => what I did
Results usually:
  • Appear 3–7 days after injection
  • Peak around 2 weeks
  • Last 3–4 months
=> Not a permanent solution, the procedure needs to be repeated every 3-4 months. But it's worth it imo, because it only takes a few minutes.



1.3. Side Effects

Most side effects are mild and temporary!

Common:
  • Small bruises
  • Swelling
  • Headache
  • Mild asymmetry
Rare:
  • Dry eyes or excessive tearing
  • Difficulty swallowing (in neck treatments)
  • Flu-like symptoms
  • Botulism (impossible if done properly)
=> Serious complications are very rare when done properly.



1.4. Who Should Avoid Botox

Botox is not recommended if you:

  • Have neuromuscular disorders
  • Are allergic to botulinum toxin ingredients
  • Have an infection at the injection site



1.5. Costs

Professionally:

Typical pricing models:
  • Per unit: €8–€15 per unit
  • Per area: €150–€400

DIY (what we are doing 🤫):

Roughly 0.4$ per unit​
=> ≈40$ per session​

JFL at everyone who doesn't do it DIY. Unless you're a millionaire it's not worth the 2500% up price.



1.6. Approximate Units Needed:

Forehead: 10–30 units​
Mouth corners (DAO): 8–12 units (combined)​
Masseter: 50–70 units (combined)​
Nostrils: 4 units (combined)​
=> These are just a few examples​



1.7. Common Misconceptions:

Myth: Botox is permanent.
Reality: Effects wear off in months.
Myth: Botox is only for wrinkles.
Reality: Precise treatments can change your face far more (for example masseter botox will shrink the muscle, making your face slimmer).
Myth: Botox works like filler.
Reality: Completely different effects.



1.8. Long-Term Effects
  • Weaker wrinkle formation over time
  • Muscles slightly shrinking from lack of use
  • Longer intervals between treatments
  • There is no evidence of serious long term harm


1.9. Summary

Botox is a purified neurotoxin used medically and cosmetically to relax muscles. When injected in small doses, it temporarily smooths wrinkles and shrinks muscles over time with effects lasting about 3–4 months.​



2. How to Do Botox DIY

Now let's get to the juicy part :feelshehe:
Here's an in-depth guide on how to do botox at home.​

2.1. Preparation

Before you do anything else, you should start by researching these things:

a) How does botox work?
For this you can simply read the first part of the thread or do extra research.​

b) What procedures do you want to do?
For this, use you should start by using common sense. Can paralysing a muscle achieve what I want to change? If you're unsure, google for example: "can botox make my mouth wider?"
If you get a result, start with c).​

c) Plan the procedure
You should research how many units of botox you need, you should study excessively where the muscle is and where you definitely shouldn't be pinning. Also research the depth of the injection! Keep in mind, botox can spread for about 1cm.​




2.2. Needed Utensils / Ordering

2.2.1 Utensils needed for the procedure

Needed:
  • Botox (botulinum toxin type A)
  • Saline 0.9% solution
  • Syringes with fitting needle lengths (insulin syringes will be enough)
  • Alcohol wipes
Optional:
  • Lidocaine cream (didn't hurt even without)
  • Medical gloves

2.2.2.Ordering:

I ordered Wondertox from meamoshop.com​
They shipped everything needed in one package. This can be quite useful.​



2.3. How to Reconstitute

1. As soon as the package arrives, store the saline and botox in a refrigerator.​
2. When you plan on using it, start reconstitution shortly before. If you need help with the math, watch this:​

If you use insulin syringes and 100units botox, you can use 2.5ml saline so that 0.1ml = 4 units Botox.​
Keep in mind: units on the syringe ≠ ml !​



2.4. Preparing for the Procedure

2.4.1. Loading up the syringes

1) Calculate the desired amount of units per injection.​
2) Load up the syringes with the desired amount of units you want to use per injection (you can use the same syringe twice if you don't want to be wasteful. Just load up the amount for 2 injections).​
3) Put the cap back on the syringe and move on.​


2.4.2. Face preparation

1) Wash your face to get rid of bacteria.​
2) Get something to hold back your hair if needed.​
3) (optional) Apply Lidocaine/numbing cream and let it sit for 30 minutes (I did without and it barely even hurt).​


2.4.3. Marking the injection points

Earlier we already determined the amount of injection points needed for every procedure and where we put them.​
1) Use alcohol wipes to clean the area again and let it dry.​
2) Mark the injection points with something (I used a brow pen).​



2.5. Injecting

1) Pick the syringe with the correct amount of units you prepared earlier.​
2) Insert the needle as deep as you determined to ho earlier. Depth will vary drastically based on the procedure. Also keep the angle in mind if needed.​
3) Inject slowly. We don't want the solution to spread uncontrollably.​



2.6. Aftercare
  • Keep your head up for the next few hours
  • Sleep on your back the same night to prevent the toxin to spread
  • Don't touch the muscles or use them too much
  • Don't cause any unnecessary strain on the body (working out/sport, hot showers or sauna,... Just don't be a retard and sit for a few hours)




3. My Experience with Botox

I did Botox because I felt like it could improve some crucial flaws about my face. For example, my face is pretty wide, and my masseter muscles are quite developed, partly because I had orthodontics for about 8 years, which basically forced me to use my muscles all the time.​
So in order to make my face less wide and appear slimmer, I decided to do masseter Botox. This procedure is pretty straightforward. You inject large amounts of the toxin to nuke the muscle and lose volume in the area.​
Next, I opted for a mouth widening procedure because my mouth-to-nose ratio is pretty off. The mouth widening procedure works by relaxing the Depressor Anguli Oris (DAO), which pull down your mouth corners, making it look less wide.​
At last, I decided to do a nose slimming procedure again to improve my mouth-to-nose ratio, because a slimmer nose is always more attractive.​



3.1. Masseter Botox

I started with the masseter procedure. I followed everything I described in the second part of this thread. The pain was very little, even though I didn't use a numbing cream. I used 30 units per side, and I did five injections per side. The depth of the injections varied between 8mm and 11mm.​
updated in a few weeks



3.2. Mouth Widening

Next, I did the mouth widening procedure. I tracked the muscle and I injected 3 and 2 units in two injection points on every side. Again, the pain was non existent, especially because the injection was very shallow, only 3mm deep.​
updated in a few weeks


3.3. Nose Slimming

At last, I did the nose slimming procedure. I injected 2 units in each nostril. This was quite difficult and quite painful. I struggled a lot and I'm questioning if it even worked.​
updated in a few weeks




There you go my children. Read everything carefully and do your own research if you still have questions.
As stated before, there are many procedures you can use Botox for. I wouldn't really focus on the wrinkles part, because it can look uncanny/gay very quickly.
Have fun and be careful, I'm not a trained doctor and I don't take responsibility for any failures.

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The Ultimate Botox Guide

In this thread you will learn everything you need to know about botox how to use it and my experience with it.



Table of contents:
1. Everything About Botox
2. How to Do Botox DIY
3. My Experience with Botox

Let's get started then, shall we?




1. Everything About Botox

Botox is a purified protein made from the bacterium Clostridium botulinum. In controlled doses (therefore no botulism), it temporarily relaxes muscles by blocking nerve signals. It’s widely used for cosmetic treatments (like wrinkle reduction) and medical conditions (like migraines or muscle spasms). Despite its origin from a toxin, it’s considered safe when done by "trained professionals" (or looksmaxxers 😉).​

1.1. What Botox Actually Is

Botox contains "botulinum toxin type A", one of several forms of the botulinum toxin.​
It works by blocking acetylcholine, a chemical that tells muscles to contract.​

The result: the targeted muscle relaxes (or shrinks) for several months.



1.2. Cosmetic Uses

Botox is most famous for reducing wrinkles, caused by facial movement.​
But it can also be used to improve other facial flaws caused by muscle activity.​

Common treatment areas:
  • Forehead lines
  • Frown lines (between the eyebrows)
  • Crow’s feet (around the eyes)
  • Lip lines / lip flip
  • Jaw slimming (masseter) => what I did
  • Downward mouth corners => what I did
Results usually:
  • Appear 3–7 days after injection
  • Peak around 2 weeks
  • Last 3–4 months
=> Not a permanent solution, the procedure needs to be repeated every 3-4 months. But it's worth it imo, because it only takes a few minutes.



1.3. Side Effects

Most side effects are mild and temporary!

Common:
  • Small bruises
  • Swelling
  • Headache
  • Mild asymmetry
Rare:
  • Dry eyes or excessive tearing
  • Difficulty swallowing (in neck treatments)
  • Flu-like symptoms
  • Botulism (impossible if done properly)
=> Serious complications are very rare when done properly.



1.4. Who Should Avoid Botox

Botox is not recommended if you:

  • Have neuromuscular disorders
  • Are allergic to botulinum toxin ingredients
  • Have an infection at the injection site



1.5. Costs

Professionally:

Typical pricing models:
  • Per unit: €8–€15 per unit
  • Per area: €150–€400

DIY (what we are doing 🤫):

Roughly 0.4$ per unit​
=> ≈40$ per session​

JFL at everyone who doesn't do it DIY. Unless you're a millionaire it's not worth the 2500% up price.



1.6. Approximate Units Needed:

Forehead: 10–30 units​
Mouth corners (DAO): 8–12 units (combined)​
Masseter: 50–70 units (combined)​
Nostrils: 4 units (combined)​
=> These are just a few examples​



1.7. Common Misconceptions:

Myth: Botox is permanent.
Reality: Effects wear off in months.
Myth: Botox is only for wrinkles.
Reality: Precise treatments can change your face far more (for example masseter botox will shrink the muscle, making your face slimmer).
Myth: Botox works like filler.
Reality: Completely different effects.



1.8. Long-Term Effects
  • Weaker wrinkle formation over time
  • Muscles slightly shrinking from lack of use
  • Longer intervals between treatments
  • There is no evidence of serious long term harm


1.9. Summary

Botox is a purified neurotoxin used medically and cosmetically to relax muscles. When injected in small doses, it temporarily smooths wrinkles and shrinks muscles over time with effects lasting about 3–4 months.​



2. How to Do Botox DIY

Now let's get to the juicy part :feelshehe:
Here's an in-depth guide on how to do botox at home.​

2.1. Preparation

Before you do anything else, you should start by researching these things:

a) How does botox work?
For this you can simply read the first part of the thread or do extra research.​

b) What procedures do you want to do?
For this, use you should start by using common sense. Can paralysing a muscle achieve what I want to change? If you're unsure, google for example: "can botox make my mouth wider?"
If you get a result, start with c).​

c) Plan the procedure
You should research how many units of botox you need, you should study excessively where the muscle is and where you definitely shouldn't be pinning. Also research the depth of the injection! Keep in mind, botox can spread for about 1cm.​




2.2. Needed Utensils / Ordering

2.2.1 Utensils needed for the procedure

Needed:
  • Botox (botulinum toxin type A)
  • Saline 0.9% solution
  • Syringes with fitting needle lengths (insulin syringes will be enough)
  • Alcohol wipes
Optional:
  • Lidocaine cream (didn't hurt even without)
  • Medical gloves

2.2.2.Ordering:

I ordered Wondertox from meamoshop.com​
They shipped everything needed in one package. This can be quite useful.​



2.3. How to Reconstitute

1. As soon as the package arrives, store the saline and botox in a refrigerator.​
2. When you plan on using it, start reconstitution shortly before. If you need help with the math, watch this:​

If you use insulin syringes and 100units botox, you can use 2.5ml saline so that 0.1ml = 4 units Botox.​
Keep in mind: units on the syringe ≠ ml !​



2.4. Preparing for the Procedure

2.4.1. Loading up the syringes

1) Calculate the desired amount of units per injection.​
2) Load up the syringes with the desired amount of units you want to use per injection (you can use the same syringe twice if you don't want to be wasteful. Just load up the amount for 2 injections).​
3) Put the cap back on the syringe and move on.​


2.4.2. Face preparation

1) Wash your face to get rid of bacteria.​
2) Get something to hold back your hair if needed.​
3) (optional) Apply Lidocaine/numbing cream and let it sit for 30 minutes (I did without and it barely even hurt).​


2.4.3. Marking the injection points

Earlier we already determined the amount of injection points needed for every procedure and where we put them.​
1) Use alcohol wipes to clean the area again and let it dry.​
2) Mark the injection points with something (I used a brow pen).​



2.5. Injecting

1) Pick the syringe with the correct amount of units you prepared earlier.​
2) Insert the needle as deep as you determined to ho earlier. Depth will vary drastically based on the procedure. Also keep the angle in mind if needed.​
3) Inject slowly. We don't want the solution to spread uncontrollably.​



2.6. Aftercare
  • Keep your head up for the next few hours
  • Sleep on your back the same night to prevent the toxin to spread
  • Don't touch the muscles or use them too much
  • Don't cause any unnecessary strain on the body (working out/sport, hot showers or sauna,... Just don't be a retard and sit for a few hours)




3. My Experience with Botox

I did Botox because I felt like it could improve some crucial flaws about my face. For example, my face is pretty wide, and my masseter muscles are quite developed, partly because I had orthodontics for about 8 years, which basically forced me to use my muscles all the time.​
So in order to make my face less wide and appear slimmer, I decided to do masseter Botox. This procedure is pretty straightforward. You inject large amounts of the toxin to nuke the muscle and lose volume in the area.​
Next, I opted for a mouth widening procedure because my mouth-to-nose ratio is pretty off. The mouth widening procedure works by relaxing the Depressor Anguli Oris (DAO), which pull down your mouth corners, making it look less wide.​
At last, I decided to do a nose slimming procedure again to improve my mouth-to-nose ratio, because a slimmer nose is always more attractive.​



3.1. Masseter Botox

I started with the masseter procedure. I followed everything I described in the second part of this thread. The pain was very little, even though I didn't use a numbing cream. I used 30 units per side, and I did five injections per side. The depth of the injections varied between 8mm and 11mm.​
updated in a few weeks



3.2. Mouth Widening

Next, I did the mouth widening procedure. I tracked the muscle and I injected 3 and 2 units in two injection points on every side. Again, the pain was non existent, especially because the injection was very shallow, only 3mm deep.​
updated in a few weeks


3.3. Nose Slimming

At last, I did the nose slimming procedure. I injected 2 units in each nostril. This was quite difficult and quite painful. I struggled a lot and I'm questioning if it even worked.​
updated in a few weeks




There you go my children. Read everything carefully and do your own research if you still have questions.
As stated before, there are many procedures you can use Botox for. I wouldn't really focus on the wrinkles part, because it can look uncanny/gay very quickly.
Have fun and be careful, I'm not a trained doctor and I don't take responsibility for any failures.

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The Ultimate Botox Guide

In this thread you will learn everything you need to know about botox how to use it and my experience with it.



Table of contents:
1. Everything About Botox
2. How to Do Botox DIY
3. My Experience with Botox

Let's get started then, shall we?




1. Everything About Botox

Botox is a purified protein made from the bacterium Clostridium botulinum. In controlled doses (therefore no botulism), it temporarily relaxes muscles by blocking nerve signals. It’s widely used for cosmetic treatments (like wrinkle reduction) and medical conditions (like migraines or muscle spasms). Despite its origin from a toxin, it’s considered safe when done by "trained professionals" (or looksmaxxers 😉).​

1.1. What Botox Actually Is

Botox contains "botulinum toxin type A", one of several forms of the botulinum toxin.​
It works by blocking acetylcholine, a chemical that tells muscles to contract.​

The result: the targeted muscle relaxes (or shrinks) for several months.



1.2. Cosmetic Uses

Botox is most famous for reducing wrinkles, caused by facial movement.​
But it can also be used to improve other facial flaws caused by muscle activity.​

Common treatment areas:
  • Forehead lines
  • Frown lines (between the eyebrows)
  • Crow’s feet (around the eyes)
  • Lip lines / lip flip
  • Jaw slimming (masseter) => what I did
  • Downward mouth corners => what I did
Results usually:
  • Appear 3–7 days after injection
  • Peak around 2 weeks
  • Last 3–4 months
=> Not a permanent solution, the procedure needs to be repeated every 3-4 months. But it's worth it imo, because it only takes a few minutes.



1.3. Side Effects

Most side effects are mild and temporary!

Common:
  • Small bruises
  • Swelling
  • Headache
  • Mild asymmetry
Rare:
  • Dry eyes or excessive tearing
  • Difficulty swallowing (in neck treatments)
  • Flu-like symptoms
  • Botulism (impossible if done properly)
=> Serious complications are very rare when done properly.



1.4. Who Should Avoid Botox

Botox is not recommended if you:

  • Have neuromuscular disorders
  • Are allergic to botulinum toxin ingredients
  • Have an infection at the injection site



1.5. Costs

Professionally:

Typical pricing models:
  • Per unit: €8–€15 per unit
  • Per area: €150–€400

DIY (what we are doing 🤫):

Roughly 0.4$ per unit​
=> ≈40$ per session​

JFL at everyone who doesn't do it DIY. Unless you're a millionaire it's not worth the 2500% up price.



1.6. Approximate Units Needed:

Forehead: 10–30 units​
Mouth corners (DAO): 8–12 units (combined)​
Masseter: 50–70 units (combined)​
Nostrils: 4 units (combined)​
=> These are just a few examples​



1.7. Common Misconceptions:

Myth: Botox is permanent.
Reality: Effects wear off in months.
Myth: Botox is only for wrinkles.
Reality: Precise treatments can change your face far more (for example masseter botox will shrink the muscle, making your face slimmer).
Myth: Botox works like filler.
Reality: Completely different effects.



1.8. Long-Term Effects
  • Weaker wrinkle formation over time
  • Muscles slightly shrinking from lack of use
  • Longer intervals between treatments
  • There is no evidence of serious long term harm


1.9. Summary

Botox is a purified neurotoxin used medically and cosmetically to relax muscles. When injected in small doses, it temporarily smooths wrinkles and shrinks muscles over time with effects lasting about 3–4 months.​



2. How to Do Botox DIY

Now let's get to the juicy part :feelshehe:
Here's an in-depth guide on how to do botox at home.​

2.1. Preparation

Before you do anything else, you should start by researching these things:

a) How does botox work?
For this you can simply read the first part of the thread or do extra research.​

b) What procedures do you want to do?
For this, use you should start by using common sense. Can paralysing a muscle achieve what I want to change? If you're unsure, google for example: "can botox make my mouth wider?"
If you get a result, start with c).​

c) Plan the procedure
You should research how many units of botox you need, you should study excessively where the muscle is and where you definitely shouldn't be pinning. Also research the depth of the injection! Keep in mind, botox can spread for about 1cm.​




2.2. Needed Utensils / Ordering

2.2.1 Utensils needed for the procedure

Needed:
  • Botox (botulinum toxin type A)
  • Saline 0.9% solution
  • Syringes with fitting needle lengths (insulin syringes will be enough)
  • Alcohol wipes
Optional:
  • Lidocaine cream (didn't hurt even without)
  • Medical gloves

2.2.2.Ordering:

I ordered Wondertox from meamoshop.com​
They shipped everything needed in one package. This can be quite useful.​



2.3. How to Reconstitute

1. As soon as the package arrives, store the saline and botox in a refrigerator.​
2. When you plan on using it, start reconstitution shortly before. If you need help with the math, watch this:​

If you use insulin syringes and 100units botox, you can use 2.5ml saline so that 0.1ml = 4 units Botox.​
Keep in mind: units on the syringe ≠ ml !​



2.4. Preparing for the Procedure

2.4.1. Loading up the syringes

1) Calculate the desired amount of units per injection.​
2) Load up the syringes with the desired amount of units you want to use per injection (you can use the same syringe twice if you don't want to be wasteful. Just load up the amount for 2 injections).​
3) Put the cap back on the syringe and move on.​


2.4.2. Face preparation

1) Wash your face to get rid of bacteria.​
2) Get something to hold back your hair if needed.​
3) (optional) Apply Lidocaine/numbing cream and let it sit for 30 minutes (I did without and it barely even hurt).​


2.4.3. Marking the injection points

Earlier we already determined the amount of injection points needed for every procedure and where we put them.​
1) Use alcohol wipes to clean the area again and let it dry.​
2) Mark the injection points with something (I used a brow pen).​



2.5. Injecting

1) Pick the syringe with the correct amount of units you prepared earlier.​
2) Insert the needle as deep as you determined to ho earlier. Depth will vary drastically based on the procedure. Also keep the angle in mind if needed.​
3) Inject slowly. We don't want the solution to spread uncontrollably.​



2.6. Aftercare
  • Keep your head up for the next few hours
  • Sleep on your back the same night to prevent the toxin to spread
  • Don't touch the muscles or use them too much
  • Don't cause any unnecessary strain on the body (working out/sport, hot showers or sauna,... Just don't be a retard and sit for a few hours)




3. My Experience with Botox

I did Botox because I felt like it could improve some crucial flaws about my face. For example, my face is pretty wide, and my masseter muscles are quite developed, partly because I had orthodontics for about 8 years, which basically forced me to use my muscles all the time.​
So in order to make my face less wide and appear slimmer, I decided to do masseter Botox. This procedure is pretty straightforward. You inject large amounts of the toxin to nuke the muscle and lose volume in the area.​
Next, I opted for a mouth widening procedure because my mouth-to-nose ratio is pretty off. The mouth widening procedure works by relaxing the Depressor Anguli Oris (DAO), which pull down your mouth corners, making it look less wide.​
At last, I decided to do a nose slimming procedure again to improve my mouth-to-nose ratio, because a slimmer nose is always more attractive.​



3.1. Masseter Botox

I started with the masseter procedure. I followed everything I described in the second part of this thread. The pain was very little, even though I didn't use a numbing cream. I used 30 units per side, and I did five injections per side. The depth of the injections varied between 8mm and 11mm.​
updated in a few weeks



3.2. Mouth Widening

Next, I did the mouth widening procedure. I tracked the muscle and I injected 3 and 2 units in two injection points on every side. Again, the pain was non existent, especially because the injection was very shallow, only 3mm deep.​
updated in a few weeks


3.3. Nose Slimming

At last, I did the nose slimming procedure. I injected 2 units in each nostril. This was quite difficult and quite painful. I struggled a lot and I'm questioning if it even worked.​
updated in a few weeks




There you go my children. Read everything carefully and do your own research if you still have questions.
As stated before, there are many procedures you can use Botox for. I wouldn't really focus on the wrinkles part, because it can look uncanny/gay very quickly.
Have fun and be careful, I'm not a trained doctor and I don't take responsibility for any failures.

Based, doing some myself

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In this thread you will learn everything you need to know about botox how to use it and my experience with it.



Table of contents:
1. Everything About Botox
2. How to Do Botox DIY
3. My Experience with Botox

Let's get started then, shall we?




1. Everything About Botox

Botox is a purified protein made from the bacterium Clostridium botulinum. In controlled doses (therefore no botulism), it temporarily relaxes muscles by blocking nerve signals. It’s widely used for cosmetic treatments (like wrinkle reduction) and medical conditions (like migraines or muscle spasms). Despite its origin from a toxin, it’s considered safe when done by "trained professionals" (or looksmaxxers 😉).​

1.1. What Botox Actually Is

Botox contains "botulinum toxin type A", one of several forms of the botulinum toxin.​
It works by blocking acetylcholine, a chemical that tells muscles to contract.​

The result: the targeted muscle relaxes (or shrinks) for several months.



1.2. Cosmetic Uses

Botox is most famous for reducing wrinkles, caused by facial movement.​
But it can also be used to improve other facial flaws caused by muscle activity.​

Common treatment areas:
  • Forehead lines
  • Frown lines (between the eyebrows)
  • Crow’s feet (around the eyes)
  • Lip lines / lip flip
  • Jaw slimming (masseter) => what I did
  • Downward mouth corners => what I did
Results usually:
  • Appear 3–7 days after injection
  • Peak around 2 weeks
  • Last 3–4 months
=> Not a permanent solution, the procedure needs to be repeated every 3-4 months. But it's worth it imo, because it only takes a few minutes.



1.3. Side Effects

Most side effects are mild and temporary!

Common:
  • Small bruises
  • Swelling
  • Headache
  • Mild asymmetry
Rare:
  • Dry eyes or excessive tearing
  • Difficulty swallowing (in neck treatments)
  • Flu-like symptoms
  • Botulism (impossible if done properly)
=> Serious complications are very rare when done properly.



1.4. Who Should Avoid Botox

Botox is not recommended if you:

  • Have neuromuscular disorders
  • Are allergic to botulinum toxin ingredients
  • Have an infection at the injection site



1.5. Costs

Professionally:

Typical pricing models:
  • Per unit: €8–€15 per unit
  • Per area: €150–€400

DIY (what we are doing 🤫):

Roughly 0.4$ per unit​
=> ≈40$ per session​

JFL at everyone who doesn't do it DIY. Unless you're a millionaire it's not worth the 2500% up price.



1.6. Approximate Units Needed:

Forehead: 10–30 units​
Mouth corners (DAO): 8–12 units (combined)​
Masseter: 50–70 units (combined)​
Nostrils: 4 units (combined)​
=> These are just a few examples​



1.7. Common Misconceptions:

Myth: Botox is permanent.
Reality: Effects wear off in months.
Myth: Botox is only for wrinkles.
Reality: Precise treatments can change your face far more (for example masseter botox will shrink the muscle, making your face slimmer).
Myth: Botox works like filler.
Reality: Completely different effects.



1.8. Long-Term Effects
  • Weaker wrinkle formation over time
  • Muscles slightly shrinking from lack of use
  • Longer intervals between treatments
  • There is no evidence of serious long term harm


1.9. Summary

Botox is a purified neurotoxin used medically and cosmetically to relax muscles. When injected in small doses, it temporarily smooths wrinkles and shrinks muscles over time with effects lasting about 3–4 months.​



2. How to Do Botox DIY

Now let's get to the juicy part :feelshehe:
Here's an in-depth guide on how to do botox at home.​

2.1. Preparation

Before you do anything else, you should start by researching these things:

a) How does botox work?
For this you can simply read the first part of the thread or do extra research.​

b) What procedures do you want to do?
For this, use you should start by using common sense. Can paralysing a muscle achieve what I want to change? If you're unsure, google for example: "can botox make my mouth wider?"
If you get a result, start with c).​

c) Plan the procedure
You should research how many units of botox you need, you should study excessively where the muscle is and where you definitely shouldn't be pinning. Also research the depth of the injection! Keep in mind, botox can spread for about 1cm.​




2.2. Needed Utensils / Ordering

2.2.1 Utensils needed for the procedure

Needed:
  • Botox (botulinum toxin type A)
  • Saline 0.9% solution
  • Syringes with fitting needle lengths (insulin syringes will be enough)
  • Alcohol wipes
Optional:
  • Lidocaine cream (didn't hurt even without)
  • Medical gloves

2.2.2.Ordering:

I ordered Wondertox from meamoshop.com​
They shipped everything needed in one package. This can be quite useful.​



2.3. How to Reconstitute

1. As soon as the package arrives, store the saline and botox in a refrigerator.​
2. When you plan on using it, start reconstitution shortly before. If you need help with the math, watch this:​

If you use insulin syringes and 100units botox, you can use 2.5ml saline so that 0.1ml = 4 units Botox.​
Keep in mind: units on the syringe ≠ ml !​



2.4. Preparing for the Procedure

2.4.1. Loading up the syringes

1) Calculate the desired amount of units per injection.​
2) Load up the syringes with the desired amount of units you want to use per injection (you can use the same syringe twice if you don't want to be wasteful. Just load up the amount for 2 injections).​
3) Put the cap back on the syringe and move on.​


2.4.2. Face preparation

1) Wash your face to get rid of bacteria.​
2) Get something to hold back your hair if needed.​
3) (optional) Apply Lidocaine/numbing cream and let it sit for 30 minutes (I did without and it barely even hurt).​


2.4.3. Marking the injection points

Earlier we already determined the amount of injection points needed for every procedure and where we put them.​
1) Use alcohol wipes to clean the area again and let it dry.​
2) Mark the injection points with something (I used a brow pen).​



2.5. Injecting

1) Pick the syringe with the correct amount of units you prepared earlier.​
2) Insert the needle as deep as you determined to ho earlier. Depth will vary drastically based on the procedure. Also keep the angle in mind if needed.​
3) Inject slowly. We don't want the solution to spread uncontrollably.​



2.6. Aftercare
  • Keep your head up for the next few hours
  • Sleep on your back the same night to prevent the toxin to spread
  • Don't touch the muscles or use them too much
  • Don't cause any unnecessary strain on the body (working out/sport, hot showers or sauna,... Just don't be a retard and sit for a few hours)




3. My Experience with Botox

I did Botox because I felt like it could improve some crucial flaws about my face. For example, my face is pretty wide, and my masseter muscles are quite developed, partly because I had orthodontics for about 8 years, which basically forced me to use my muscles all the time.​
So in order to make my face less wide and appear slimmer, I decided to do masseter Botox. This procedure is pretty straightforward. You inject large amounts of the toxin to nuke the muscle and lose volume in the area.​
Next, I opted for a mouth widening procedure because my mouth-to-nose ratio is pretty off. The mouth widening procedure works by relaxing the Depressor Anguli Oris (DAO), which pull down your mouth corners, making it look less wide.​
At last, I decided to do a nose slimming procedure again to improve my mouth-to-nose ratio, because a slimmer nose is always more attractive.​



3.1. Masseter Botox

I started with the masseter procedure. I followed everything I described in the second part of this thread. The pain was very little, even though I didn't use a numbing cream. I used 30 units per side, and I did five injections per side. The depth of the injections varied between 8mm and 11mm.​
updated in a few weeks



3.2. Mouth Widening

Next, I did the mouth widening procedure. I tracked the muscle and I injected 3 and 2 units in two injection points on every side. Again, the pain was non existent, especially because the injection was very shallow, only 3mm deep.​
updated in a few weeks


3.3. Nose Slimming

At last, I did the nose slimming procedure. I injected 2 units in each nostril. This was quite difficult and quite painful. I struggled a lot and I'm questioning if it even worked.​
updated in a few weeks




There you go my children. Read everything carefully and do your own research if you still have questions.
As stated before, there are many procedures you can use Botox for. I wouldn't really focus on the wrinkles part, because it can look uncanny/gay very quickly.
Have fun and be careful, I'm not a trained doctor and I don't take responsibility for any failures.

Read every molecule. Great thread. Mirin the effort
 
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Can I use it for an upturned chin? So it sits in line with my jawline?
Maybe a little bit in the mentalis muscle, I may do it aswell
 
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Maybe a little bit in the mentalis muscle, I may do it aswell
You seen any b&a? I see it for the chin dimpling or whatever but not really what I got
 
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Can I use it for an upturned chin? So it sits in line with my jawline?
It's a really good chin lol, dont try to reduce it. Just lose BF$, it will improve
 
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The Ultimate Botox Guide

In this thread you will learn everything you need to know about botox how to use it and my experience with it.



Table of contents:
1. Everything About Botox
2. How to Do Botox DIY
3. My Experience with Botox

Let's get started then, shall we?




1. Everything About Botox

Botox is a purified protein made from the bacterium Clostridium botulinum. In controlled doses (therefore no botulism), it temporarily relaxes muscles by blocking nerve signals. It’s widely used for cosmetic treatments (like wrinkle reduction) and medical conditions (like migraines or muscle spasms). Despite its origin from a toxin, it’s considered safe when done by "trained professionals" (or looksmaxxers 😉).​

1.1. What Botox Actually Is

Botox contains "botulinum toxin type A", one of several forms of the botulinum toxin.​
It works by blocking acetylcholine, a chemical that tells muscles to contract.​

The result: the targeted muscle relaxes (or shrinks) for several months.



1.2. Cosmetic Uses

Botox is most famous for reducing wrinkles, caused by facial movement.​
But it can also be used to improve other facial flaws caused by muscle activity.​

Common treatment areas:
  • Forehead lines
  • Frown lines (between the eyebrows)
  • Crow’s feet (around the eyes)
  • Lip lines / lip flip
  • Jaw slimming (masseter) => what I did
  • Downward mouth corners => what I did
Results usually:
  • Appear 3–7 days after injection
  • Peak around 2 weeks
  • Last 3–4 months
=> Not a permanent solution, the procedure needs to be repeated every 3-4 months. But it's worth it imo, because it only takes a few minutes.



1.3. Side Effects

Most side effects are mild and temporary!

Common:
  • Small bruises
  • Swelling
  • Headache
  • Mild asymmetry
Rare:
  • Dry eyes or excessive tearing
  • Difficulty swallowing (in neck treatments)
  • Flu-like symptoms
  • Botulism (impossible if done properly)
=> Serious complications are very rare when done properly.



1.4. Who Should Avoid Botox

Botox is not recommended if you:

  • Have neuromuscular disorders
  • Are allergic to botulinum toxin ingredients
  • Have an infection at the injection site



1.5. Costs

Professionally:

Typical pricing models:
  • Per unit: €8–€15 per unit
  • Per area: €150–€400

DIY (what we are doing 🤫):

Roughly 0.4$ per unit​
=> ≈40$ per session​

JFL at everyone who doesn't do it DIY. Unless you're a millionaire it's not worth the 2500% up price.



1.6. Approximate Units Needed:

Forehead: 10–30 units​
Mouth corners (DAO): 8–12 units (combined)​
Masseter: 50–70 units (combined)​
Nostrils: 4 units (combined)​
=> These are just a few examples​



1.7. Common Misconceptions:

Myth: Botox is permanent.
Reality: Effects wear off in months.
Myth: Botox is only for wrinkles.
Reality: Precise treatments can change your face far more (for example masseter botox will shrink the muscle, making your face slimmer).
Myth: Botox works like filler.
Reality: Completely different effects.



1.8. Long-Term Effects
  • Weaker wrinkle formation over time
  • Muscles slightly shrinking from lack of use
  • Longer intervals between treatments
  • There is no evidence of serious long term harm


1.9. Summary

Botox is a purified neurotoxin used medically and cosmetically to relax muscles. When injected in small doses, it temporarily smooths wrinkles and shrinks muscles over time with effects lasting about 3–4 months.​



2. How to Do Botox DIY

Now let's get to the juicy part :feelshehe:
Here's an in-depth guide on how to do botox at home.​

2.1. Preparation

Before you do anything else, you should start by researching these things:

a) How does botox work?
For this you can simply read the first part of the thread or do extra research.​

b) What procedures do you want to do?
For this, use you should start by using common sense. Can paralysing a muscle achieve what I want to change? If you're unsure, google for example: "can botox make my mouth wider?"
If you get a result, start with c).​

c) Plan the procedure
You should research how many units of botox you need, you should study excessively where the muscle is and where you definitely shouldn't be pinning. Also research the depth of the injection! Keep in mind, botox can spread for about 1cm.​




2.2. Needed Utensils / Ordering

2.2.1 Utensils needed for the procedure

Needed:
  • Botox (botulinum toxin type A)
  • Saline 0.9% solution
  • Syringes with fitting needle lengths (insulin syringes will be enough)
  • Alcohol wipes
Optional:
  • Lidocaine cream (didn't hurt even without)
  • Medical gloves

2.2.2.Ordering:

I ordered Wondertox from meamoshop.com​
They shipped everything needed in one package. This can be quite useful.​



2.3. How to Reconstitute

1. As soon as the package arrives, store the saline and botox in a refrigerator.​
2. When you plan on using it, start reconstitution shortly before. If you need help with the math, watch this:​

If you use insulin syringes and 100units botox, you can use 2.5ml saline so that 0.1ml = 4 units Botox.​
Keep in mind: units on the syringe ≠ ml !​



2.4. Preparing for the Procedure

2.4.1. Loading up the syringes

1) Calculate the desired amount of units per injection.​
2) Load up the syringes with the desired amount of units you want to use per injection (you can use the same syringe twice if you don't want to be wasteful. Just load up the amount for 2 injections).​
3) Put the cap back on the syringe and move on.​


2.4.2. Face preparation

1) Wash your face to get rid of bacteria.​
2) Get something to hold back your hair if needed.​
3) (optional) Apply Lidocaine/numbing cream and let it sit for 30 minutes (I did without and it barely even hurt).​


2.4.3. Marking the injection points

Earlier we already determined the amount of injection points needed for every procedure and where we put them.​
1) Use alcohol wipes to clean the area again and let it dry.​
2) Mark the injection points with something (I used a brow pen).​



2.5. Injecting

1) Pick the syringe with the correct amount of units you prepared earlier.​
2) Insert the needle as deep as you determined to ho earlier. Depth will vary drastically based on the procedure. Also keep the angle in mind if needed.​
3) Inject slowly. We don't want the solution to spread uncontrollably.​



2.6. Aftercare
  • Keep your head up for the next few hours
  • Sleep on your back the same night to prevent the toxin to spread
  • Don't touch the muscles or use them too much
  • Don't cause any unnecessary strain on the body (working out/sport, hot showers or sauna,... Just don't be a retard and sit for a few hours)




3. My Experience with Botox

I did Botox because I felt like it could improve some crucial flaws about my face. For example, my face is pretty wide, and my masseter muscles are quite developed, partly because I had orthodontics for about 8 years, which basically forced me to use my muscles all the time.​
So in order to make my face less wide and appear slimmer, I decided to do masseter Botox. This procedure is pretty straightforward. You inject large amounts of the toxin to nuke the muscle and lose volume in the area.​
Next, I opted for a mouth widening procedure because my mouth-to-nose ratio is pretty off. The mouth widening procedure works by relaxing the Depressor Anguli Oris (DAO), which pull down your mouth corners, making it look less wide.​
At last, I decided to do a nose slimming procedure again to improve my mouth-to-nose ratio, because a slimmer nose is always more attractive.​



3.1. Masseter Botox

I started with the masseter procedure. I followed everything I described in the second part of this thread. The pain was very little, even though I didn't use a numbing cream. I used 30 units per side, and I did five injections per side. The depth of the injections varied between 8mm and 11mm.​
updated in a few weeks



3.2. Mouth Widening

Next, I did the mouth widening procedure. I tracked the muscle and I injected 3 and 2 units in two injection points on every side. Again, the pain was non existent, especially because the injection was very shallow, only 3mm deep.​
updated in a few weeks


3.3. Nose Slimming

At last, I did the nose slimming procedure. I injected 2 units in each nostril. This was quite difficult and quite painful. I struggled a lot and I'm questioning if it even worked.​
updated in a few weeks




There you go my children. Read everything carefully and do your own research if you still have questions.
As stated before, there are many procedures you can use Botox for. I wouldn't really focus on the wrinkles part, because it can look uncanny/gay very quickly.
Have fun and be careful, I'm not a trained doctor and I don't take responsibility for any failures.

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t areas:
  • Forehead lines
  • Frown lines (between the eyebrows)
  • Crow’s feet (around the eyes)
  • Lip lines / lip flip
  • Jaw slimming (masseter) => what I did
  • Downward mouth corners => what I did
BTW, I've also heard about lowering the eyebrow setness with botox, as well as increasing canthal tilt.


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Can also fix Negative hooding/Brow tilt, temporarily ofc
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The Ultimate Botox Guide

In this thread you will learn everything you need to know about botox how to use it and my experience with it.



Table of contents:
1. Everything About Botox
2. How to Do Botox DIY
3. My Experience with Botox

Let's get started then, shall we?




1. Everything About Botox

Botox is a purified protein made from the bacterium Clostridium botulinum. In controlled doses (therefore no botulism), it temporarily relaxes muscles by blocking nerve signals. It’s widely used for cosmetic treatments (like wrinkle reduction) and medical conditions (like migraines or muscle spasms). Despite its origin from a toxin, it’s considered safe when done by "trained professionals" (or looksmaxxers 😉).​

1.1. What Botox Actually Is

Botox contains "botulinum toxin type A", one of several forms of the botulinum toxin.​
It works by blocking acetylcholine, a chemical that tells muscles to contract.​

The result: the targeted muscle relaxes (or shrinks) for several months.



1.2. Cosmetic Uses

Botox is most famous for reducing wrinkles, caused by facial movement.​
But it can also be used to improve other facial flaws caused by muscle activity.​

Common treatment areas:
  • Forehead lines
  • Frown lines (between the eyebrows)
  • Crow’s feet (around the eyes)
  • Lip lines / lip flip
  • Jaw slimming (masseter) => what I did
  • Downward mouth corners => what I did
Results usually:
  • Appear 3–7 days after injection
  • Peak around 2 weeks
  • Last 3–4 months
=> Not a permanent solution, the procedure needs to be repeated every 3-4 months. But it's worth it imo, because it only takes a few minutes.



1.3. Side Effects

Most side effects are mild and temporary!

Common:
  • Small bruises
  • Swelling
  • Headache
  • Mild asymmetry
Rare:
  • Dry eyes or excessive tearing
  • Difficulty swallowing (in neck treatments)
  • Flu-like symptoms
  • Botulism (impossible if done properly)
=> Serious complications are very rare when done properly.



1.4. Who Should Avoid Botox

Botox is not recommended if you:

  • Have neuromuscular disorders
  • Are allergic to botulinum toxin ingredients
  • Have an infection at the injection site



1.5. Costs

Professionally:

Typical pricing models:
  • Per unit: €8–€15 per unit
  • Per area: €150–€400

DIY (what we are doing 🤫):

Roughly 0.4$ per unit​
=> ≈40$ per session​

JFL at everyone who doesn't do it DIY. Unless you're a millionaire it's not worth the 2500% up price.



1.6. Approximate Units Needed:

Forehead: 10–30 units​
Mouth corners (DAO): 8–12 units (combined)​
Masseter: 50–70 units (combined)​
Nostrils: 4 units (combined)​
=> These are just a few examples​



1.7. Common Misconceptions:

Myth: Botox is permanent.
Reality: Effects wear off in months.
Myth: Botox is only for wrinkles.
Reality: Precise treatments can change your face far more (for example masseter botox will shrink the muscle, making your face slimmer).
Myth: Botox works like filler.
Reality: Completely different effects.



1.8. Long-Term Effects
  • Weaker wrinkle formation over time
  • Muscles slightly shrinking from lack of use
  • Longer intervals between treatments
  • There is no evidence of serious long term harm


1.9. Summary

Botox is a purified neurotoxin used medically and cosmetically to relax muscles. When injected in small doses, it temporarily smooths wrinkles and shrinks muscles over time with effects lasting about 3–4 months.​



2. How to Do Botox DIY

Now let's get to the juicy part :feelshehe:
Here's an in-depth guide on how to do botox at home.​

2.1. Preparation

Before you do anything else, you should start by researching these things:

a) How does botox work?
For this you can simply read the first part of the thread or do extra research.​

b) What procedures do you want to do?
For this, use you should start by using common sense. Can paralysing a muscle achieve what I want to change? If you're unsure, google for example: "can botox make my mouth wider?"
If you get a result, start with c).​

c) Plan the procedure
You should research how many units of botox you need, you should study excessively where the muscle is and where you definitely shouldn't be pinning. Also research the depth of the injection! Keep in mind, botox can spread for about 1cm.​




2.2. Needed Utensils / Ordering

2.2.1 Utensils needed for the procedure

Needed:
  • Botox (botulinum toxin type A)
  • Saline 0.9% solution
  • Syringes with fitting needle lengths (insulin syringes will be enough)
  • Alcohol wipes
Optional:
  • Lidocaine cream (didn't hurt even without)
  • Medical gloves

2.2.2.Ordering:

I ordered Wondertox from meamoshop.com​
They shipped everything needed in one package. This can be quite useful.​



2.3. How to Reconstitute

1. As soon as the package arrives, store the saline and botox in a refrigerator.​
2. When you plan on using it, start reconstitution shortly before. If you need help with the math, watch this:​

If you use insulin syringes and 100units botox, you can use 2.5ml saline so that 0.1ml = 4 units Botox.​
Keep in mind: units on the syringe ≠ ml !​



2.4. Preparing for the Procedure

2.4.1. Loading up the syringes

1) Calculate the desired amount of units per injection.​
2) Load up the syringes with the desired amount of units you want to use per injection (you can use the same syringe twice if you don't want to be wasteful. Just load up the amount for 2 injections).​
3) Put the cap back on the syringe and move on.​


2.4.2. Face preparation

1) Wash your face to get rid of bacteria.​
2) Get something to hold back your hair if needed.​
3) (optional) Apply Lidocaine/numbing cream and let it sit for 30 minutes (I did without and it barely even hurt).​


2.4.3. Marking the injection points

Earlier we already determined the amount of injection points needed for every procedure and where we put them.​
1) Use alcohol wipes to clean the area again and let it dry.​
2) Mark the injection points with something (I used a brow pen).​



2.5. Injecting

1) Pick the syringe with the correct amount of units you prepared earlier.​
2) Insert the needle as deep as you determined to ho earlier. Depth will vary drastically based on the procedure. Also keep the angle in mind if needed.​
3) Inject slowly. We don't want the solution to spread uncontrollably.​



2.6. Aftercare
  • Keep your head up for the next few hours
  • Sleep on your back the same night to prevent the toxin to spread
  • Don't touch the muscles or use them too much
  • Don't cause any unnecessary strain on the body (working out/sport, hot showers or sauna,... Just don't be a retard and sit for a few hours)




3. My Experience with Botox

I did Botox because I felt like it could improve some crucial flaws about my face. For example, my face is pretty wide, and my masseter muscles are quite developed, partly because I had orthodontics for about 8 years, which basically forced me to use my muscles all the time.​
So in order to make my face less wide and appear slimmer, I decided to do masseter Botox. This procedure is pretty straightforward. You inject large amounts of the toxin to nuke the muscle and lose volume in the area.​
Next, I opted for a mouth widening procedure because my mouth-to-nose ratio is pretty off. The mouth widening procedure works by relaxing the Depressor Anguli Oris (DAO), which pull down your mouth corners, making it look less wide.​
At last, I decided to do a nose slimming procedure again to improve my mouth-to-nose ratio, because a slimmer nose is always more attractive.​



3.1. Masseter Botox

I started with the masseter procedure. I followed everything I described in the second part of this thread. The pain was very little, even though I didn't use a numbing cream. I used 30 units per side, and I did five injections per side. The depth of the injections varied between 8mm and 11mm.​
updated in a few weeks



3.2. Mouth Widening

Next, I did the mouth widening procedure. I tracked the muscle and I injected 3 and 2 units in two injection points on every side. Again, the pain was non existent, especially because the injection was very shallow, only 3mm deep.​
updated in a few weeks


3.3. Nose Slimming

At last, I did the nose slimming procedure. I injected 2 units in each nostril. This was quite difficult and quite painful. I struggled a lot and I'm questioning if it even worked.​
updated in a few weeks




There you go my children. Read everything carefully and do your own research if you still have questions.
As stated before, there are many procedures you can use Botox for. I wouldn't really focus on the wrinkles part, because it can look uncanny/gay very quickly.
Have fun and be careful, I'm not a trained doctor and I don't take responsibility for any failures.

Saw ur process on tt. Mirin the thread effort
 
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will try on the nose and my massater
 
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Could this potentially lower my eyebrow height?
 
Easier then I expected honestly
thought it would be multiple injection points like filler/aqualyx but its far easier

thread definetly applies to a small amount of people but still very useful

why did u do massater botox ur massaters didnt look that big to me or was it js the angle
 
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js got de ja vu from this

oh :forcedsmile: I sped through the thread quickly
The amount of injection points varies based on procedure. I'd say it's between 1 and 7 normally
 
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The Ultimate Botox Guide

In this thread you will learn everything you need to know about botox how to use it and my experience with it.



Table of contents:
1. Everything About Botox
2. How to Do Botox DIY
3. My Experience with Botox

Let's get started then, shall we?




1. Everything About Botox

Botox is a purified protein made from the bacterium Clostridium botulinum. In controlled doses (therefore no botulism), it temporarily relaxes muscles by blocking nerve signals. It’s widely used for cosmetic treatments (like wrinkle reduction) and medical conditions (like migraines or muscle spasms). Despite its origin from a toxin, it’s considered safe when done by "trained professionals" (or looksmaxxers 😉).​

1.1. What Botox Actually Is

Botox contains "botulinum toxin type A", one of several forms of the botulinum toxin.​
It works by blocking acetylcholine, a chemical that tells muscles to contract.​

The result: the targeted muscle relaxes (or shrinks) for several months.



1.2. Cosmetic Uses

Botox is most famous for reducing wrinkles, caused by facial movement.​
But it can also be used to improve other facial flaws caused by muscle activity.​

Common treatment areas:
  • Forehead lines
  • Frown lines (between the eyebrows)
  • Crow’s feet (around the eyes)
  • Lip lines / lip flip
  • Jaw slimming (masseter) => what I did
  • Downward mouth corners => what I did
Results usually:
  • Appear 3–7 days after injection
  • Peak around 2 weeks
  • Last 3–4 months
=> Not a permanent solution, the procedure needs to be repeated every 3-4 months. But it's worth it imo, because it only takes a few minutes.



1.3. Side Effects

Most side effects are mild and temporary!

Common:
  • Small bruises
  • Swelling
  • Headache
  • Mild asymmetry
Rare:
  • Dry eyes or excessive tearing
  • Difficulty swallowing (in neck treatments)
  • Flu-like symptoms
  • Botulism (impossible if done properly)
=> Serious complications are very rare when done properly.



1.4. Who Should Avoid Botox

Botox is not recommended if you:

  • Have neuromuscular disorders
  • Are allergic to botulinum toxin ingredients
  • Have an infection at the injection site



1.5. Costs

Professionally:

Typical pricing models:
  • Per unit: €8–€15 per unit
  • Per area: €150–€400

DIY (what we are doing 🤫):

Roughly 0.4$ per unit​
=> ≈40$ per session​

JFL at everyone who doesn't do it DIY. Unless you're a millionaire it's not worth the 2500% up price.



1.6. Approximate Units Needed:

Forehead: 10–30 units​
Mouth corners (DAO): 8–12 units (combined)​
Masseter: 50–70 units (combined)​
Nostrils: 4 units (combined)​
=> These are just a few examples​



1.7. Common Misconceptions:

Myth: Botox is permanent.
Reality: Effects wear off in months.
Myth: Botox is only for wrinkles.
Reality: Precise treatments can change your face far more (for example masseter botox will shrink the muscle, making your face slimmer).
Myth: Botox works like filler.
Reality: Completely different effects.



1.8. Long-Term Effects
  • Weaker wrinkle formation over time
  • Muscles slightly shrinking from lack of use
  • Longer intervals between treatments
  • There is no evidence of serious long term harm


1.9. Summary

Botox is a purified neurotoxin used medically and cosmetically to relax muscles. When injected in small doses, it temporarily smooths wrinkles and shrinks muscles over time with effects lasting about 3–4 months.​



2. How to Do Botox DIY

Now let's get to the juicy part :feelshehe:
Here's an in-depth guide on how to do botox at home.​

2.1. Preparation

Before you do anything else, you should start by researching these things:

a) How does botox work?
For this you can simply read the first part of the thread or do extra research.​

b) What procedures do you want to do?
For this, use you should start by using common sense. Can paralysing a muscle achieve what I want to change? If you're unsure, google for example: "can botox make my mouth wider?"
If you get a result, start with c).​

c) Plan the procedure
You should research how many units of botox you need, you should study excessively where the muscle is and where you definitely shouldn't be pinning. Also research the depth of the injection! Keep in mind, botox can spread for about 1cm.​




2.2. Needed Utensils / Ordering

2.2.1 Utensils needed for the procedure

Needed:
  • Botox (botulinum toxin type A)
  • Saline 0.9% solution
  • Syringes with fitting needle lengths (insulin syringes will be enough)
  • Alcohol wipes
Optional:
  • Lidocaine cream (didn't hurt even without)
  • Medical gloves

2.2.2.Ordering:

I ordered Wondertox from meamoshop.com​
They shipped everything needed in one package. This can be quite useful.​



2.3. How to Reconstitute

1. As soon as the package arrives, store the saline and botox in a refrigerator.​
2. When you plan on using it, start reconstitution shortly before. If you need help with the math, watch this:​

If you use insulin syringes and 100units botox, you can use 2.5ml saline so that 0.1ml = 4 units Botox.​
Keep in mind: units on the syringe ≠ ml !​



2.4. Preparing for the Procedure

2.4.1. Loading up the syringes

1) Calculate the desired amount of units per injection.​
2) Load up the syringes with the desired amount of units you want to use per injection (you can use the same syringe twice if you don't want to be wasteful. Just load up the amount for 2 injections).​
3) Put the cap back on the syringe and move on.​


2.4.2. Face preparation

1) Wash your face to get rid of bacteria.​
2) Get something to hold back your hair if needed.​
3) (optional) Apply Lidocaine/numbing cream and let it sit for 30 minutes (I did without and it barely even hurt).​


2.4.3. Marking the injection points

Earlier we already determined the amount of injection points needed for every procedure and where we put them.​
1) Use alcohol wipes to clean the area again and let it dry.​
2) Mark the injection points with something (I used a brow pen).​



2.5. Injecting

1) Pick the syringe with the correct amount of units you prepared earlier.​
2) Insert the needle as deep as you determined to ho earlier. Depth will vary drastically based on the procedure. Also keep the angle in mind if needed.​
3) Inject slowly. We don't want the solution to spread uncontrollably.​



2.6. Aftercare
  • Keep your head up for the next few hours
  • Sleep on your back the same night to prevent the toxin to spread
  • Don't touch the muscles or use them too much
  • Don't cause any unnecessary strain on the body (working out/sport, hot showers or sauna,... Just don't be a retard and sit for a few hours)




3. My Experience with Botox

I did Botox because I felt like it could improve some crucial flaws about my face. For example, my face is pretty wide, and my masseter muscles are quite developed, partly because I had orthodontics for about 8 years, which basically forced me to use my muscles all the time.​
So in order to make my face less wide and appear slimmer, I decided to do masseter Botox. This procedure is pretty straightforward. You inject large amounts of the toxin to nuke the muscle and lose volume in the area.​
Next, I opted for a mouth widening procedure because my mouth-to-nose ratio is pretty off. The mouth widening procedure works by relaxing the Depressor Anguli Oris (DAO), which pull down your mouth corners, making it look less wide.​
At last, I decided to do a nose slimming procedure again to improve my mouth-to-nose ratio, because a slimmer nose is always more attractive.​



3.1. Masseter Botox

I started with the masseter procedure. I followed everything I described in the second part of this thread. The pain was very little, even though I didn't use a numbing cream. I used 30 units per side, and I did five injections per side. The depth of the injections varied between 8mm and 11mm.​
updated in a few weeks



3.2. Mouth Widening

Next, I did the mouth widening procedure. I tracked the muscle and I injected 3 and 2 units in two injection points on every side. Again, the pain was non existent, especially because the injection was very shallow, only 3mm deep.​
updated in a few weeks


3.3. Nose Slimming

At last, I did the nose slimming procedure. I injected 2 units in each nostril. This was quite difficult and quite painful. I struggled a lot and I'm questioning if it even worked.​
updated in a few weeks




There you go my children. Read everything carefully and do your own research if you still have questions.
As stated before, there are many procedures you can use Botox for. I wouldn't really focus on the wrinkles part, because it can look uncanny/gay very quickly.
Have fun and be careful, I'm not a trained doctor and I don't take responsibility for any failures.

never gonna do this but bookmarked just to make sure
 
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"the ultimate botox guide" nigga you did it for the first time this week
all my looksmax guides are things i've done for months
no offence bro but why the fuck are mods pinning this
 
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"the ultimate botox guide" nigga you did it for the first time this week
all my looksmax guides are things i've done for months
no offence bro but why the fuck are mods pinning this
so what jfl
do you have to get canthplasty to make a canthoplasty guide?
 
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The Ultimate Botox Guide

In this thread you will learn everything you need to know about botox how to use it and my experience with it.



Table of contents:
1. Everything About Botox
2. How to Do Botox DIY
3. My Experience with Botox

Let's get started then, shall we?




1. Everything About Botox

Botox is a purified protein made from the bacterium Clostridium botulinum. In controlled doses (therefore no botulism), it temporarily relaxes muscles by blocking nerve signals. It’s widely used for cosmetic treatments (like wrinkle reduction) and medical conditions (like migraines or muscle spasms). Despite its origin from a toxin, it’s considered safe when done by "trained professionals" (or looksmaxxers 😉).​

1.1. What Botox Actually Is

Botox contains "botulinum toxin type A", one of several forms of the botulinum toxin.​
It works by blocking acetylcholine, a chemical that tells muscles to contract.​

The result: the targeted muscle relaxes (or shrinks) for several months.



1.2. Cosmetic Uses

Botox is most famous for reducing wrinkles, caused by facial movement.​
But it can also be used to improve other facial flaws caused by muscle activity.​

Common treatment areas:
  • Forehead lines
  • Frown lines (between the eyebrows)
  • Crow’s feet (around the eyes)
  • Lip lines / lip flip
  • Jaw slimming (masseter) => what I did
  • Downward mouth corners => what I did
Results usually:
  • Appear 3–7 days after injection
  • Peak around 2 weeks
  • Last 3–4 months
=> Not a permanent solution, the procedure needs to be repeated every 3-4 months. But it's worth it imo, because it only takes a few minutes.



1.3. Side Effects

Most side effects are mild and temporary!

Common:
  • Small bruises
  • Swelling
  • Headache
  • Mild asymmetry
Rare:
  • Dry eyes or excessive tearing
  • Difficulty swallowing (in neck treatments)
  • Flu-like symptoms
  • Botulism (impossible if done properly)
=> Serious complications are very rare when done properly.



1.4. Who Should Avoid Botox

Botox is not recommended if you:

  • Have neuromuscular disorders
  • Are allergic to botulinum toxin ingredients
  • Have an infection at the injection site



1.5. Costs

Professionally:

Typical pricing models:
  • Per unit: €8–€15 per unit
  • Per area: €150–€400

DIY (what we are doing 🤫):

Roughly 0.4$ per unit​
=> ≈40$ per session​

JFL at everyone who doesn't do it DIY. Unless you're a millionaire it's not worth the 2500% up price.



1.6. Approximate Units Needed:

Forehead: 10–30 units​
Mouth corners (DAO): 8–12 units (combined)​
Masseter: 50–70 units (combined)​
Nostrils: 4 units (combined)​
=> These are just a few examples​



1.7. Common Misconceptions:

Myth: Botox is permanent.
Reality: Effects wear off in months.
Myth: Botox is only for wrinkles.
Reality: Precise treatments can change your face far more (for example masseter botox will shrink the muscle, making your face slimmer).
Myth: Botox works like filler.
Reality: Completely different effects.



1.8. Long-Term Effects
  • Weaker wrinkle formation over time
  • Muscles slightly shrinking from lack of use
  • Longer intervals between treatments
  • There is no evidence of serious long term harm


1.9. Summary

Botox is a purified neurotoxin used medically and cosmetically to relax muscles. When injected in small doses, it temporarily smooths wrinkles and shrinks muscles over time with effects lasting about 3–4 months.​



2. How to Do Botox DIY

Now let's get to the juicy part :feelshehe:
Here's an in-depth guide on how to do botox at home.​

2.1. Preparation

Before you do anything else, you should start by researching these things:

a) How does botox work?
For this you can simply read the first part of the thread or do extra research.​

b) What procedures do you want to do?
For this, use you should start by using common sense. Can paralysing a muscle achieve what I want to change? If you're unsure, google for example: "can botox make my mouth wider?"
If you get a result, start with c).​

c) Plan the procedure
You should research how many units of botox you need, you should study excessively where the muscle is and where you definitely shouldn't be pinning. Also research the depth of the injection! Keep in mind, botox can spread for about 1cm.​




2.2. Needed Utensils / Ordering

2.2.1 Utensils needed for the procedure

Needed:
  • Botox (botulinum toxin type A)
  • Saline 0.9% solution
  • Syringes with fitting needle lengths (insulin syringes will be enough)
  • Alcohol wipes
Optional:
  • Lidocaine cream (didn't hurt even without)
  • Medical gloves

2.2.2.Ordering:

I ordered Wondertox from meamoshop.com​
They shipped everything needed in one package. This can be quite useful.​



2.3. How to Reconstitute

1. As soon as the package arrives, store the saline and botox in a refrigerator.​
2. When you plan on using it, start reconstitution shortly before. If you need help with the math, watch this:​

If you use insulin syringes and 100units botox, you can use 2.5ml saline so that 0.1ml = 4 units Botox.​
Keep in mind: units on the syringe ≠ ml !​



2.4. Preparing for the Procedure

2.4.1. Loading up the syringes

1) Calculate the desired amount of units per injection.​
2) Load up the syringes with the desired amount of units you want to use per injection (you can use the same syringe twice if you don't want to be wasteful. Just load up the amount for 2 injections).​
3) Put the cap back on the syringe and move on.​


2.4.2. Face preparation

1) Wash your face to get rid of bacteria.​
2) Get something to hold back your hair if needed.​
3) (optional) Apply Lidocaine/numbing cream and let it sit for 30 minutes (I did without and it barely even hurt).​


2.4.3. Marking the injection points

Earlier we already determined the amount of injection points needed for every procedure and where we put them.​
1) Use alcohol wipes to clean the area again and let it dry.​
2) Mark the injection points with something (I used a brow pen).​



2.5. Injecting

1) Pick the syringe with the correct amount of units you prepared earlier.​
2) Insert the needle as deep as you determined to ho earlier. Depth will vary drastically based on the procedure. Also keep the angle in mind if needed.​
3) Inject slowly. We don't want the solution to spread uncontrollably.​



2.6. Aftercare
  • Keep your head up for the next few hours
  • Sleep on your back the same night to prevent the toxin to spread
  • Don't touch the muscles or use them too much
  • Don't cause any unnecessary strain on the body (working out/sport, hot showers or sauna,... Just don't be a retard and sit for a few hours)




3. My Experience with Botox

I did Botox because I felt like it could improve some crucial flaws about my face. For example, my face is pretty wide, and my masseter muscles are quite developed, partly because I had orthodontics for about 8 years, which basically forced me to use my muscles all the time.​
So in order to make my face less wide and appear slimmer, I decided to do masseter Botox. This procedure is pretty straightforward. You inject large amounts of the toxin to nuke the muscle and lose volume in the area.​
Next, I opted for a mouth widening procedure because my mouth-to-nose ratio is pretty off. The mouth widening procedure works by relaxing the Depressor Anguli Oris (DAO), which pull down your mouth corners, making it look less wide.​
At last, I decided to do a nose slimming procedure again to improve my mouth-to-nose ratio, because a slimmer nose is always more attractive.​



3.1. Masseter Botox

I started with the masseter procedure. I followed everything I described in the second part of this thread. The pain was very little, even though I didn't use a numbing cream. I used 30 units per side, and I did five injections per side. The depth of the injections varied between 8mm and 11mm.​
updated in a few weeks



3.2. Mouth Widening

Next, I did the mouth widening procedure. I tracked the muscle and I injected 3 and 2 units in two injection points on every side. Again, the pain was non existent, especially because the injection was very shallow, only 3mm deep.​
updated in a few weeks


3.3. Nose Slimming

At last, I did the nose slimming procedure. I injected 2 units in each nostril. This was quite difficult and quite painful. I struggled a lot and I'm questioning if it even worked.​
updated in a few weeks




There you go my children. Read everything carefully and do your own research if you still have questions.
As stated before, there are many procedures you can use Botox for. I wouldn't really focus on the wrinkles part, because it can look uncanny/gay very quickly.
Have fun and be careful, I'm not a trained doctor and I don't take responsibility for any failures.

Could you show some points for the frontalis? To lower eyebrows
 

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