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In this thread, I gonna prove to you that BOXING is a superior way for overall ascension compared to Gymcelling. I'll also show you the benefits of it and how you can train at home with little or no equipment.
| THE IDEAL MALE BODY
First of all, we should make clear from the start that Bone structure is more important than big muscles. We all know this, and you have to keep this in mind before trying to cope.
A V shaped body is one of the most important aspects of an attractive male body
This will depend of two things:
1- Clavicle length
2- The relationship between the ribs and the hips
If you don't have the best Bone Structure to give you this athletic shape, the only option you have to enhance your body to look more V shaped is by:
1- Increasing your shoulder size
2- Minimizing your abdominal fat
Take a look at this gymcel transformation:
Take a look how much wider he looks after putting some mass on his shoulders! I wouldn't be surprised if that's a 2 inches bideltoid measurement increase.
And you know which sport requires a lot of the shoulders besides basketball and swimming?
BOXING!
Boxing is also a very intense sport which is great to leanmax, which will basically enhance your V shape if you don't have a lean belly.
| BOXING BENEFITS OVER GYMCELLING
I'd say boxing outmatches gymcelling in almost e v e r y t h i n g !
There are probably even more that I haven't take the time to think about it yet tbh, like increasing bone density because the it's a sport of impact.
| GYMCEL COPES
Now, let's deal with some Gymcel copes:
There are a few problems with this. First, yes, gym will be more efficient than anything else in terms of building muscle, but about how much? And why exactly should that matter?
There's a natural limit to how much you can grow your muscles, after 2 to 3 years of gymcelling you'll have achieved around 95% of your natural limit, from there you'll be gaining 1kg/2lbs of pure muscle every 6 months, maybe even in a whole year! So supposing other sports only have 75% of the efficiency of gym, and it takes you 36 months to achieve your maximum muscle growth, which means you'll achieve your maximum muscle growth through boxing in around 45 months, that is, 3 years and 9 months.
NINE months of difference only.
Second, why care so much about sculpting your body? as I stated above, the most important muscles to have an attractive male body are shoulders, chest, and abs, what are you trying to sculpt exactly here? Abs and chest are basically genetic, it will depend on their insertions, the only thing you can do is getting them bigger and being lean so your abs show more.
Another important thing, FACE is more important, why would care so much about getting so big?! Thom Strijd's body isn't even his maximum natural limit but his body and a body like David Laid is the EXACT same thing for girls!
Yes and no, most of the exercises done are functional, they don't require progress overload or any shit like that, you'll only do that if you want to become an amateur or pro athlete, or if you want to step up your boxing strengths.
Unless you're doing a real match with one of your mates or someone from the class the chances of this happening are literally ZERO. When you're boxing shadowing with someone else the punches are of pretty average force, it's meant to hurt the other, it's almost like when you try to hit a mosquito on your arm with the other hand. Besides that, you'll learn how to defend your face and how to dodge your opponent's punches, not only that but there are also mouth guards which are pretty cheap and easy to mold it.
So far, I've only got small bruises on my hips and on my ear, nothing else.
Huge COPE!
Women don't like huge guys, obviously, there's a niche of girls who like bodybuilding guys (Classic or Men's physique type), but the problem is that they aren't the majority, and most of them are female gymcel themselves, who usually join the gym to compensate for ther ugly or average face, small tits and shit waist:hip. Is that the type of woman you want to attract?
Usually, you guys watch a youtube video of someone interviewing girls asking if the find Jeff Seid's body attractive and you get the "YES!" response and think to yourself "Damn! I need to get as big as him"
But you're completely ignoring the fact that they like his body, not because of his SIZE, but because of his FACE, V SHAPE, and GREAT INSERTIONS!
If you get to that size and you don't have the rest, you'll only attract gymcel whores.
THIS is what the universally ideal male body looks like in terms of muscle mass:
No woman will think that it's too much, and only the gymcel whores will think it's too little. This is the body that attracts FERTILE women!
What you need is:
Visible abs
Some volume on the chest
V shape
Proportion on the rest of the body
| BOXING EQUIPMENT
You can easily work out at home, having some equipment would be ideal though.
If I had to invest in only ONE thing to train boxing, it would definitely be on 2 dumbbells (1kg/2.5lbs each). This is essential for boxing shadowing, it will make your punches heavier, this will make you acquire more speed, power, and stamina.
Then you can invest in other things such as:
Gloves
Bandage
Mouthguard
Rope
Punchbag
Here is a good video teaching how to wear a bandage:
| BOXING TRAINING
First, you need to learn the basic stance
I'd recommend you train this looking in a mirror so you can correct your mistakes, and memorize that position
After that, try to relax your body, arms low, legs together... and them, BOOM! Get into the position as quick as possible, see if you committed any mistake, and try again, keep doing this for a few times, like 30-50, until you get used to it.
After that, you should train your movement, start doing 2 series of 2 minutes each, moving forward and backwards, maintaining your arms high, protecting your head like in the video.
Rest 30 seconds between the series, and do 10 sit-ups during the rest.
After that, do 2 series of 2 minutes each, moving to the sides.
30 seconds rest, 10 sit-ups.
After that you'll have to learn how to throw punches
I'd recommend you start training only 1 & 2 first (don't forget to rotate your body and rear leg on 2), make 4 series of 1 minute for each, 30 seconds rests, with sit-ups, push-ups, and squats. Eventually you'll get used to this, then you can move on to the next punches.
In short:
30-50 reps of stance position
2 x 2 minutes forward and backward movement
2 x 2 minutes lateral movement
4 x 1 minute combination of Jab and Direct
30 seconds of rest in each series, with 10 sit-ups, push-ups, or squats
Later, you can look up for how to defend punches and how to dodge them and include those movements in your routine.
I'd recommend you train 2x a week, maybe 3, but don't go above 4, boxing burns a lot of calories.
If you've got the money, join a boxing gym
Also, follow him for some motivation: https://www.instagram.com/robjamesevans/
and watch Rocky, Creed, and Southpaw for more motivation
| THE IDEAL MALE BODY
First of all, we should make clear from the start that Bone structure is more important than big muscles. We all know this, and you have to keep this in mind before trying to cope.
A V shaped body is one of the most important aspects of an attractive male body
This will depend of two things:
1- Clavicle length
2- The relationship between the ribs and the hips
If you don't have the best Bone Structure to give you this athletic shape, the only option you have to enhance your body to look more V shaped is by:
1- Increasing your shoulder size
2- Minimizing your abdominal fat
Take a look at this gymcel transformation:
Take a look how much wider he looks after putting some mass on his shoulders! I wouldn't be surprised if that's a 2 inches bideltoid measurement increase.
And you know which sport requires a lot of the shoulders besides basketball and swimming?
BOXING!
Boxing is also a very intense sport which is great to leanmax, which will basically enhance your V shape if you don't have a lean belly.
| BOXING BENEFITS OVER GYMCELLING
I'd say boxing outmatches gymcelling in almost e v e r y t h i n g !
- Boxing is much more useful than gymcelling. Gymcelling will only give you strength, but have you seen those youtube videos of bodybuilders doing other types of sports and they always get mogged to death by the skinny guy who has been doing that for years?! Big muscles don't mean you'll out perform others on every sport, because big muscles don't substitute TECHNIQUE and the MOTOR SYSTEM. This means a smaller guy (let's say, 10kgs lighter) could beat the shit out of you easily!
With boxing you actually learn how to defend yourself in a confrontation that you can't escape, maybe even come to the point where it'll help you defend your gf or family. Even if you're not good at it yet, doing the correct base and knowing how to properly throw some jabs will be enough to keep the other guy alert and maybe avoid fighting you because he'll think you're more trained than you if he has no training.
- Because it's an intense sport, with restings usually lasting only 30 seconds between the series, and even then you usually have to do like 10-12 push-ups, squats, or sit-ups, you'll gain waaaaay more endurance than you'd with gymcelling. You gain endurance, you gain speed, and you gain strength.
- Human contact/interaction. This is by far the biggest mog of boxing over gymcelling. Gymcelling RARELY will give you the opportunity to have a decent interaction with someone else. The only opportunities where you'll have this is when you share a machine with someone else, and even then most people don't even like to talk when they are doing their series cuz of "muh gainz", so you'll probably only have like 30 seconds of talk in 3 series, then each one of you go to a different machine. Meanwhile, in boxing you have the time to talk to others even when you're fighting each other because you're face to face and almost half of the fight is just positioning, not throwing punches non-stop.
- An extension of the above, INTERACTION with WOMEN, there are plenty of women who do boxing (and other martial arts) and you'll get to fight them, you'll get more used to be in contact with them, and you can even look at their tits if you want because it will look like you're looking at their gloves to see with which hand they'll throw a punch.
And if you hate women, you can even hit a bit harder (shame there aren't any Asian females where I train)
Just don't hit too hard to knock out or you'll get kicked out
- Another advantage, most gymwhores are ugly/average whores who wear a shit ton of makeup to look good, and train their asses like hell to compensate for their narrow hips. On a boxing gym you actually get to see these women without makeup, NO FRAUDING!
- Lastly, you work your whole body! Neck, traps, shoulder, back, abs, obliques, biceps, triceps, legs, glutes, calves, cuff rotator, even your forearm when you squeeze your hands to make a fist before throwing a punch.
There are probably even more that I haven't take the time to think about it yet tbh, like increasing bone density because the it's a sport of impact.
| GYMCEL COPES
Now, let's deal with some Gymcel copes:
There are a few problems with this. First, yes, gym will be more efficient than anything else in terms of building muscle, but about how much? And why exactly should that matter?
There's a natural limit to how much you can grow your muscles, after 2 to 3 years of gymcelling you'll have achieved around 95% of your natural limit, from there you'll be gaining 1kg/2lbs of pure muscle every 6 months, maybe even in a whole year! So supposing other sports only have 75% of the efficiency of gym, and it takes you 36 months to achieve your maximum muscle growth, which means you'll achieve your maximum muscle growth through boxing in around 45 months, that is, 3 years and 9 months.
NINE months of difference only.
Second, why care so much about sculpting your body? as I stated above, the most important muscles to have an attractive male body are shoulders, chest, and abs, what are you trying to sculpt exactly here? Abs and chest are basically genetic, it will depend on their insertions, the only thing you can do is getting them bigger and being lean so your abs show more.
Another important thing, FACE is more important, why would care so much about getting so big?! Thom Strijd's body isn't even his maximum natural limit but his body and a body like David Laid is the EXACT same thing for girls!
Yes and no, most of the exercises done are functional, they don't require progress overload or any shit like that, you'll only do that if you want to become an amateur or pro athlete, or if you want to step up your boxing strengths.
Unless you're doing a real match with one of your mates or someone from the class the chances of this happening are literally ZERO. When you're boxing shadowing with someone else the punches are of pretty average force, it's meant to hurt the other, it's almost like when you try to hit a mosquito on your arm with the other hand. Besides that, you'll learn how to defend your face and how to dodge your opponent's punches, not only that but there are also mouth guards which are pretty cheap and easy to mold it.
So far, I've only got small bruises on my hips and on my ear, nothing else.
Huge COPE!
Women don't like huge guys, obviously, there's a niche of girls who like bodybuilding guys (Classic or Men's physique type), but the problem is that they aren't the majority, and most of them are female gymcel themselves, who usually join the gym to compensate for ther ugly or average face, small tits and shit waist:hip. Is that the type of woman you want to attract?
Usually, you guys watch a youtube video of someone interviewing girls asking if the find Jeff Seid's body attractive and you get the "YES!" response and think to yourself "Damn! I need to get as big as him"
But you're completely ignoring the fact that they like his body, not because of his SIZE, but because of his FACE, V SHAPE, and GREAT INSERTIONS!
If you get to that size and you don't have the rest, you'll only attract gymcel whores.
THIS is what the universally ideal male body looks like in terms of muscle mass:
No woman will think that it's too much, and only the gymcel whores will think it's too little. This is the body that attracts FERTILE women!
What you need is:
Visible abs
Some volume on the chest
V shape
Proportion on the rest of the body
| BOXING EQUIPMENT
You can easily work out at home, having some equipment would be ideal though.
If I had to invest in only ONE thing to train boxing, it would definitely be on 2 dumbbells (1kg/2.5lbs each). This is essential for boxing shadowing, it will make your punches heavier, this will make you acquire more speed, power, and stamina.
Then you can invest in other things such as:
Gloves
Bandage
Mouthguard
Rope
Punchbag
Here is a good video teaching how to wear a bandage:
| BOXING TRAINING
First, you need to learn the basic stance
I'd recommend you train this looking in a mirror so you can correct your mistakes, and memorize that position
After that, try to relax your body, arms low, legs together... and them, BOOM! Get into the position as quick as possible, see if you committed any mistake, and try again, keep doing this for a few times, like 30-50, until you get used to it.
After that, you should train your movement, start doing 2 series of 2 minutes each, moving forward and backwards, maintaining your arms high, protecting your head like in the video.
Rest 30 seconds between the series, and do 10 sit-ups during the rest.
After that, do 2 series of 2 minutes each, moving to the sides.
30 seconds rest, 10 sit-ups.
After that you'll have to learn how to throw punches
I'd recommend you start training only 1 & 2 first (don't forget to rotate your body and rear leg on 2), make 4 series of 1 minute for each, 30 seconds rests, with sit-ups, push-ups, and squats. Eventually you'll get used to this, then you can move on to the next punches.
In short:
30-50 reps of stance position
2 x 2 minutes forward and backward movement
2 x 2 minutes lateral movement
4 x 1 minute combination of Jab and Direct
30 seconds of rest in each series, with 10 sit-ups, push-ups, or squats
Later, you can look up for how to defend punches and how to dodge them and include those movements in your routine.
I'd recommend you train 2x a week, maybe 3, but don't go above 4, boxing burns a lot of calories.
If you've got the money, join a boxing gym
Also, follow him for some motivation: https://www.instagram.com/robjamesevans/
and watch Rocky, Creed, and Southpaw for more motivation
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