The world is just a huge fucking trap

[Bashan]

You can't just go out and get a virus that would make you healthy, chad, or rich. No, you can get a virus that would damage your body and might kill you.

You can't go out and look over your shoulder because someone is really trying to help you. You look over your shoulder because the world is fucked.

Building anything takes years but destroying? nothing. You can lift for 5 years but if you got injured for a year say bye bye to 5 hard years of work.

The more you age, the harder it gets. You don't just fight time but you fight time with decreased abilities, every year you're decaying. Human prime is very short.

The negative always outweigh the positive. If a lion eats a dear, the lion doesn't enjoy his meal as much as the deer suffer - suffering always prevail.

Any wrong move can potentially be fatal, those moves that you don't even know or consider. But guess what? they're easy to make. Good moves are hard.

In games you always shuffle the deck, but you can't shuffle your genetics. You have one hand and you got to manoeuvre and bluff with it endless times.

Oh god, what a fucking scam. Where am I? what is this? how did I came here? I got teleported to hell.

 

[Bashan]

@MoggerGaston @Latebloomer10 @cloUder @TsarTsar444 @Vermilioncore

 

[badamj]

Maybe this is purgatory or something.

 

[Bashan]

Maybe this is purgatory or something.

Christianity is a disease.

 

[Deleted member 22930]

any sane man would want to die

 

[Bashan]

any sane man would want to die

Theoretically speaking, yes. No matter your genetics. You can always have a fatal injury and get brutally paralyzed, then what? If I wanted to and I was crazy enough I could get to almost any chad or a person that have it really good and subject them to endless torture. Then what? I'm just a random crazy motherfucker they don't even know about. You might get lucky and never encounter such a son of a bitch or get into an accident or something brutal. But, you might. And if the bad always outweigh the good - Why not kill yourself? humans are master copers.

 

[MoggerGaston]

It's proof Earth is actually hell. The current way that life on earth functions causes maximum total suffering.

We are stuck in this prison. Suicide is no way out, you will reincarnate and suffer all over again.

Endless torture.

 

[badamj]

Christianity is a disease.

I’m not Christian breh. I just think this world is a well crafted hell.

 

[Bashan]

It's proof Earth is actually hell. The current way that life on earth functions causes maximum total suffering.

We are stuck in this prison. Suicide is no way out, you will reincarnate and suffer all over again.

Endless torture.

Reincarnation is cope because we have zero proof or knowledge about that, but you know what's real? your current suffering. Caring about possible imaginary suffering is not rational and it's a part of our coping mechanisms. I'm a victim of that as well and it's almost unshakeable since it's naturally everyone's will to survive. I wish I could confirm that there is nothing after you die, that would make it a lot easier. I grew up around humans that couldn't bear the the thought of no after life, so now It's part of my psych. A cat doesn't care about this shit. The world is so surreal and I can't understand with my human brain why am I here or what the fuck all of that even is.
I don't remember any suffering before I was born, that's my only reliance on the idea of infinity.

I wish I was (if born) like a carnivore, like a big cat. You know, just a survival machine. Animals doesn't torture themselves in mind, adding to their suffering. We suffer more in our head then in reality, but that's part of reality and of being a human.

I don't know, I just need a gun and the promise that I wouldn't come back. I don't want any part of it. I don't want heaven too. I know it's silly to say I don't want heaven but I want no part in any of this, leave me alone I had enough. I don't want any tricks.

 

[Deleted member 20422]

It's proof Earth is actually hell. The current way that life on earth functions causes maximum total suffering.

We are stuck in this prison. Suicide is no way out, you will reincarnate and suffer all over again.

Endless torture.

I shouldnt be telling you this goym but you can escape this prison planet by not going into tunnel of light and espaping through hole in energy grid to the real universe

 

[Bashan]

I shouldnt be telling you this goym but you can escape this prison planet by not going into tunnel of light and espaping through hole in energy grid to the real universe

What if I die demented? brain damaged? how can I decide? what If I die as a baby? how would you know?

 

[Deleted member 20422]

What if I die demented? brain damaged? how can I decide? what If I die as a baby? how would you know?

then archons will reincarnate you

 

[Bashan]

then archons will reincarnate you

So you can only escape if you got the knowledge and you're well enough to understand it? seems like another blackpill to me.

 

[Deleted member 20422]

So you can only escape if you got the knowledge and you're well enough to understand it? seems like another blackpill to me.

yes you are basically part of divine enrgy that flows through entire universe that was tricked into experiencing this material reality. This world is much different place than most people think and its history too

 

[Bashan]

yes you are basically part of divine enrgy that flows through entire universe that was tricked into experiencing this material reality. This world is much different place than most people think and its history too

Miss me with that Pre-Socratic incarnation shit I have real world problems. Or is it the problem? that I'm focused on the material problems? I don't know. Can't know. Will never know. Till I'm death, but maybe not even then.

 

[smoothsexy]

yes you are basically part of divine enrgy that flows through entire universe that was tricked into experiencing this material reality. This world is much different place than most people think and its history too

how easy is it actually to escape reincarnation trap? and what then if you actually do? you just go back to being divine energy, until one day you are born again?

 

[MoggerGaston]

Reincarnation is cope because we have zero proof or knowledge about that, but you know what's real? your current suffering. Caring about possible imaginary suffering is not rational and it's a part of our coping mechanisms. I'm a victim of that as well and it's almost unshakeable since it's naturally everyone's will to survive. I wish I could confirm that there is nothing after you die, that would make it a lot easier. I grew up around humans that couldn't bear the the thought of no after life, so now It's part of my psych. A cat doesn't care about this shit. The world is so surreal and I can't understand with my human brain why am I here or what the fuck all of that even is.
I don't remember any suffering before I was born, that's my only reliance on the idea of infinity.

I wish I was (if born) like a carnivore, like a big cat. You know, just a survival machine. Animals doesn't torture themselves in mind, adding to their suffering. We suffer more in our head then in reality, but that's part of reality and of being a human.

I don't know, I just need a gun and the promise that I wouldn't come back. I don't want any part of it. I don't want heaven too. I know it's silly to say I don't want heaven but I want no part in any of this, leave me alone I had enough. I don't want any tricks.

If we go by science and what has been proven, then reincarnation is basically real in a way.

Once we die, our body will decompose and lose structure. It will transfer into a form of matter/energy no longer recognizable as a human. But it will eventually be part of another lifeform again in one way or another. And the cycle will repeat.

Humans, as far as we have scientific knowledge of, is just the lifeform on earth that is most capable of increasing entropy on earth; that is turning the structure/material around us into unstructured waste-heat with nothing going on in it anymore. Our suffering is part of that process and further accelerates the decomposition of earth itself. And potentially the planets/stars around us aswell if we ever become an intergalactic species.

Human life has no other scientific purpose than to accelerate the universe into a heat death.

The heat death of the universe (also known as the Big Chill or Big Freeze) is a hypothesis on the ultimate fate of the universe, which suggests the universe will evolve to a state of no thermodynamic free energy, and will therefore be unable to sustain processes that increase entropy. Heat death does not imply any particular absolute temperature; it only requires that temperature differences or other processes may no longer be exploited to perform work. In the language of physics, this is when the universe reaches thermodynamic equilibrium. The Heat Death theory has become the leading theory in the modern age with the fewest unpredictable factors.

The reason why people cope with spiritual beings, religion, after-life, is because the real truth, realism, science is actually the most brutal there is. Scientific discovery and what it means for earth, the universe and the meaning of life is extremely unsettling.

 

[Bashan]

If we go by science and what has been proven, then reincarnation is basically real in a way.

Once we die, our body will decompose and lose structure. It will transfer into a form of matter/energy no longer recognizable as a human. But it will eventually be part of another lifeform again in one way or another. And the cycle will repeat.

That's nothing. If I give you my Kidney after I die I don't actually reincarnating or live through you I shall say. Yes my energy might always be on earth, always were. I live off the energy of past forms but they're no longer here as me. I'm talking about the consciousness and the ''You'' not some bloody parts. I couldn't care less about that.

 

[MoggerGaston]

That's nothing. If I give you my Kidney after I die I don't actually reincarnating or live through you I shall say. Yes my energy might always be on earth, always were. I live off the energy of past forms but they're no longer here as me. I'm talking about the consciousness and the ''You'' not some bloody parts. I couldn't care less about that.

Consciousness is just an illusion of the brain. It doesn't exist.
It's no measurable form of energy/matter, it is merely created by the structure of the brain and the signals that flow through your neurons.

It's also why it is so easily altered with hormones/drugs/etc.

If you would do a brain transplant to another body, your 'consciousness' would just follow to that other body.

 

[Bashan]

it is merely created by the structure of the brain and the signals that flow through your neurons.

This is highly specific and I wouldn't count on that to happen again (to have the same brain) Though if infinity do exist, I will probably come back because of endless forms over and over again. I just wouldn't know who the fuck I was, it would be a copy of sort, not really me. Just like how if there's a copy of me right now and he's suffering, I don't give a fuck because that's not me.

 

[MoggerGaston]

This is highly specific and I wouldn't count on that to happen again (to have the same brain) Though if infinity do exist, I will probably come back because of endless forms over and over again. I just wouldn't know who the fuck I was, it would be a copy of sort, not really me. Just like how if there's a copy of me right now and he's suffering, I don't give a fuck because that's not me.

True, there will bever be a 100% copy of you. It is too unlikely to happen.

What is likely though is that in the future we can implant shared memories into people's brains. Which could largely dictate the way you respond to certain stimuli. Like whether you get a freeze, flight or fight response in a certain situation.

Kinda like how 'instinctual behavior' could be seen as programmed memories.

 

[Bashan]

True, there will bever be a 100% copy of you. It is too unlikely to happen.

What is likely though is that in the future we can implant shared memories into people's brains. Which could largely dictate the way you respond to certain stimuli. Like whether you get a freeze, flight or fight response in a certain situation.

Kinda like how 'instinctual behavior' could be seen as programmed memories.

We will be dust by then and nobody would care to revive us before it's too late.

 

[Kroker]

This the truth that many people masterfully suppress, because if it would be on full display you will get paralyzed or suicidal.

In the end it is what it is

 

[Bashan]

This the truth that many people masterfully suppress, because if it would be on full display you will get paralyzed or suicidal.

In the end it is what it is

 

[Deleted member 23324]

pessimism-maxxing

 

[Bashan]

pessimism-maxxing

 

[Deleted member 23324]

yes you are basically part of divine enrgy that flows through entire universe that was tricked into experiencing this material reality. This world is much different place than most people think and its history too

So this whole reality we exist in is based off a huge lie? And if we do manage to escape this reincarnation cycle where does our soul go? What does it do all day?

 

[Bashan]

So this whole reality we exist in is based off a huge lie. And if we do manage to escape this reincarnation cycle where does our soul go? What does it do all day?

That's the Pythagorean school of thought. He also told people not to eat meat because you basically eat past humans

. It will transfer into a form of matter/energy no longer recognizable as a human. But it will eventually be part of another lifeform again in one way or another. And the cycle will repeat.

 

[Deleted member 19036]

most brutal thing is that there is no morals. no morals in the nature only chaos

 

[Bashan]

most brutal thing is that there is no morals. no morals in the nature only chaos

Last of my worries.

 

[Deleted member 19036]

Last of my worries.

humans are "nature" too

 

[Bashan]

humans are "nature" too

Idk why I dissed you jfl that makes perfect sense. Probably read it wrong.

 

[Vermilioncore]

Damn you’re actually smart. You always gave me “wannabe” vibes, but I realize now that you’re more intelligent and deeper than I’ll ever be. You’ll take over. Want my account? Ketchup?

Anyway, yeah, the world is indeed a place where it’s easy to lose and hard to win. If you just stay in one spot like a statue, things would still somehow ruin your life. It’s like a video game almost; since you’re not getting damaged and sorta cheating by staying in one spot and not moving, God finds a way to fuck you up regardless. He’ll send a heart attack or some weird disease to you. You’re never safe. You’re never on top. You’re never free. You’re stuck in a trap. Saw type shit innit

 

[Bashan]

Damn you’re actually smart. You always gave me “wannabe” vibes

Bro wtf..

 

[Vermilioncore]

Bro wtf..

You like my honesty. I know you do.

When I get soft, you tell me I fell off. So, be happy that I am still in my golden days. Shit may be tarnished though. Maybe I’m in my bronze days?

 

[Bashan]

You like my honesty. I know you do.

When I get soft, you tell me I fell off. So, be happy that I am still in my golden days. Shit may be tarnished though. Maybe I’m in my bronze days?

 

[Vermilioncore]

Mfs think they’re on Sesame Street

 

[Bashan]

Mfs think they’re on Sesame Street

I don't want to say anything, no jokes. Don't wanna seem like a wannabe.

 

[Vermilioncore]

I don't want to say anything, no jokes. Don't wanna seem like a wannabe.

Damn! Put a dent in your mf confidence. Sowwy

 

[Bashan]

Damn! Put a dent in your mf confidence. Sowwy

Very true. I have no objections.

 

[Vermilioncore]

Very true. I have no objections.

Damn

 

[Bashan]

@Lone Wolf This one is good too.