The worst part of looksmaxxing.

[PakAryan]

In my opinion, the worst part of being in the process of looksmaxxing after embracing the blackpill is not the efforts you go through, the risks you take, the hatred and pain at looking at your face in the mirror, the struggles of not eating, or even the depressing realization that people (girls mostly) do not care about you or your personality, but rather your appearance, or seeing couples around while you remain alone (this one comes close though).

It's the fear of whether you will actually ascend or not, whether you will actually become an HTN or stay capped at L-MTN.
For example, I have been seriously looksmaxxing since last year, leanmaxxing, hitting the gym and lifting, tretinoin for skin, finasteride for hair, ordering peptides, the whole package. I know my face has visually improved, I can see it, others can see it, I can somewhat see girls glance at me more often. I'd say I've gone from a genuine subhuman (or LTN) to at least LMTN or MMTN (depends kind of on my location too kinda, I got lucky since in my state I'm average height/tallish, but in Western Europe I would've likely had to rope), and I can't say I'm not grateful for that "ascension", I can literally see my bones slightly sharper and more visible, I have rid myself of my former skinny-fat physique and it feels nice knowing I'm not completely repulsive anymore.

But the fact remains that one of my deepest fears is that someday I will reach my body fat % goal (~12%), but I'll discover that I am basically hardcapped at MTN by my bone structure (hardmaxxing is hardly a financially feasible option as a teen). Or an identical fear, that I simply will never reach that body fat level (my progress has been stagnating recently and it's pretty demotivating). I'd like to at least reach H-MTN or L-HTN, that would be something I could be satisfied with, at heart and the whole core of why I started all this is just to feel a foids warmth and love, and to escape being an incel. I feel a slightly increase sense of urgency now because I turn 20 next year as well. What do you guys think? Anything you guys think about to assuage these fears or re-motivate yourselves?

 

[VohnnyBoy]

at heart and the whole core of why I started all this is just to feel a foids warmth and love, and to escape being an incel.

If that’s your main goal, just expose yourself to girls and you’ll eventually find one. As long as you’re reasonably NT you’re good.

 

[psltristan1]

Dnr

 

[PakAryan]

If that’s your main goal, just expose yourself to girls and you’ll eventually find one. As long as you’re reasonably NT you’re good.

Trying to get myself in more situations where I naturally talk to and socialize with girls yeah, but its a bit hard, and my personality is kind of non-normal and not "popular"

 

[NoExit]

whether you will actually become an HTN or stay capped at L-MTN.

im capped at LTN

 

[Lefty Rankin]

In my opinion, the worst part of being in the process of looksmaxxing after embracing the blackpill is not the efforts you go through, the risks you take, the hatred and pain at looking at your face in the mirror, the struggles of not eating, or even the depressing realization that people (girls mostly) do not care about you or your personality, but rather your appearance, or seeing couples around while you remain alone (this one comes close though).

It's the fear of whether you will actually ascend or not, whether you will actually become an HTN or stay capped at L-MTN.
For example, I have been seriously looksmaxxing since last year, leanmaxxing, hitting the gym and lifting, tretinoin for skin, finasteride for hair, ordering peptides, the whole package. I know my face has visually improved, I can see it, others can see it, I can somewhat see girls glance at me more often. I'd say I've gone from a genuine subhuman (or LTN) to at least LMTN or MMTN (depends kind of on my location too kinda, I got lucky since in my state I'm average height/tallish, but in Western Europe I would've likely had to rope), and I can't say I'm not grateful for that "ascension", I can literally see my bones slightly sharper and more visible, I have rid myself of my former skinny-fat physique and it feels nice knowing I'm not completely repulsive anymore.

But the fact remains that one of my deepest fears is that someday I will reach my body fat % goal (~12%), but I'll discover that I am basically hardcapped at MTN by my bone structure (hardmaxxing is hardly a financially feasible option as a teen). Or an identical fear, that I simply will never reach that body fat level (my progress has been stagnating recently and it's pretty demotivating). I'd like to at least reach H-MTN or L-HTN, that would be something I could be satisfied with, at heart and the whole core of why I started all this is just to feel a foids warmth and love, and to escape being an incel. I feel a slightly increase sense of urgency now because I turn 20 next year as well. What do you guys think? Anything you guys think about to assuage these fears or re-motivate yourselves?

I think you're fucking stupid.

 

[kwk3998]

realization that people (girls mostly) do not care about you or your personality, but rather your appearance,

You live in a shorter country since you said Western Europe would be ropefuel.
So I’m guessing you’re in South asia

You don’t need to ascend, you need to enter the Brahmin caste. This is the easiest way to get women

 

[Limitsareillusions]

In my opinion, the worst part of being in the process of looksmaxxing after embracing the blackpill is not the efforts you go through, the risks you take, the hatred and pain at looking at your face in the mirror, the struggles of not eating, or even the depressing realization that people (girls mostly) do not care about you or your personality, but rather your appearance, or seeing couples around while you remain alone (this one comes close though).

It's the fear of whether you will actually ascend or not, whether you will actually become an HTN or stay capped at L-MTN.
For example, I have been seriously looksmaxxing since last year, leanmaxxing, hitting the gym and lifting, tretinoin for skin, finasteride for hair, ordering peptides, the whole package. I know my face has visually improved, I can see it, others can see it, I can somewhat see girls glance at me more often. I'd say I've gone from a genuine subhuman (or LTN) to at least LMTN or MMTN (depends kind of on my location too kinda, I got lucky since in my state I'm average height/tallish, but in Western Europe I would've likely had to rope), and I can't say I'm not grateful for that "ascension", I can literally see my bones slightly sharper and more visible, I have rid myself of my former skinny-fat physique and it feels nice knowing I'm not completely repulsive anymore.

But the fact remains that one of my deepest fears is that someday I will reach my body fat % goal (~12%), but I'll discover that I am basically hardcapped at MTN by my bone structure (hardmaxxing is hardly a financially feasible option as a teen). Or an identical fear, that I simply will never reach that body fat level (my progress has been stagnating recently and it's pretty demotivating). I'd like to at least reach H-MTN or L-HTN, that would be something I could be satisfied with, at heart and the whole core of why I started all this is just to feel a foids warmth and love, and to escape being an incel. I feel a slightly increase sense of urgency now because I turn 20 next year as well. What do you guys think? Anything you guys think about to assuage these fears or re-motivate yourselves?

I share your thoughts, for my particular case what really scares me is starting to Pin in general. I've seen proof of people becoming greek gods, I'd love to do it but I can't even imagine how'd my mother react if she ever found out. Same goes for surgery, for anything that goes over the softmaxxes and gym. Last for least, I do not know about you but I'm starting to orient my life towards a maxxing path. Carreer maxxing, Money maxxing, Self Maxxing... But thing is, am I making the right choise as the 18 y.o man , going 19, to choose a living style only because Bruce Wayne is cool as fuck? I feel like I am playing one of those videogames where you optimize your charachter just for the sake of it. Just as an example I already mapped my carrer path to when i am 40 in detail only because by following it i will have enough money to hardmaxx and Mog in a fancy suit. That's so fucked up but I can't but I have come to the point that everyday not spent in productivity, maxxing or whatever the fuck is a Lost day, a waste of time.

 

[Limitsareillusions]

You live in a shorter country since you said Western Europe would be ropefuel.
So I’m guessing you’re in South asia

You don’t need to ascend, you need to enter the Brahmin caste. This is the easiest way to get women

Idk about yall but getting a woman just because of my status is something that would make me vomit. Imagine her being with you only for your money while she desires and lusts over other men, that's fucking mental.

 

[turkcelfatcel]

In my opinion, the worst part of being in the process of looksmaxxing after embracing the blackpill is not the efforts you go through, the risks you take, the hatred and pain at looking at your face in the mirror, the struggles of not eating, or even the depressing realization that people (girls mostly) do not care about you or your personality, but rather your appearance, or seeing couples around while you remain alone (this one comes close though).

It's the fear of whether you will actually ascend or not, whether you will actually become an HTN or stay capped at L-MTN.
For example, I have been seriously looksmaxxing since last year, leanmaxxing, hitting the gym and lifting, tretinoin for skin, finasteride for hair, ordering peptides, the whole package. I know my face has visually improved, I can see it, others can see it, I can somewhat see girls glance at me more often. I'd say I've gone from a genuine subhuman (or LTN) to at least LMTN or MMTN (depends kind of on my location too kinda, I got lucky since in my state I'm average height/tallish, but in Western Europe I would've likely had to rope), and I can't say I'm not grateful for that "ascension", I can literally see my bones slightly sharper and more visible, I have rid myself of my former skinny-fat physique and it feels nice knowing I'm not completely repulsive anymore.

But the fact remains that one of my deepest fears is that someday I will reach my body fat % goal (~12%), but I'll discover that I am basically hardcapped at MTN by my bone structure (hardmaxxing is hardly a financially feasible option as a teen). Or an identical fear, that I simply will never reach that body fat level (my progress has been stagnating recently and it's pretty demotivating). I'd like to at least reach H-MTN or L-HTN, that would be something I could be satisfied with, at heart and the whole core of why I started all this is just to feel a foids warmth and love, and to escape being an incel. I feel a slightly increase sense of urgency now because I turn 20 next year as well. What do you guys think? Anything you guys think about to assuage these fears or re-motivate yourselves?

I agree its mostly realising its over

 

[enlightful]

I agree its mostly realising its over

 

[PakAryan]

You live in a shorter country since you said Western Europe would be ropefuel.
So I’m guessing you’re in South asia

You don’t need to ascend, you need to enter the Brahmin caste. This is the easiest way to get women

I live in the US