theorizing about changing the past and related ideas

[Youㅤ]

first of all, what happens IF u somehow did change the past?

well, based on my theory, it would not actually change the present. so that is kinda disappointing, i mean whats the point if it doesnt fix the problem in the present that resulted from the past pre-augmentation?

well, i believe that the past exists, we just arent in it anymore. so its kinda the question of whether something irrelevant to u has meaning because it is real, or not because it is not relevant to u.

but what if changing the past would have some effect on the present? i think this is plausible, but it would affect the present in an unconventional fashion. to change the past, energy must be directed into the past. (it has presumably lost energy and become static) but now that it does have energy, that energy will move elsewhere after exerting its change. could it catch up to the energy in the present? im not sure, and even if it did, im not sure how it would affect the present.

but how to actually change the past? i theorize that the past is the physical world that our conscious energy (and presumably other energies that interact with that matter) left. i wonder if the past is not actually a dichotomy but the farther back it goes, the more "pastly" it is. in this line of thinking, changing the recent past is easier than changing the distant past. perhaps u could significantly alter the previous moment if ur quick, altho unfortunately its too late to fix all my past problems with this strategy.

okay so literally changing the past isnt that useful for changing the present, but is useful for its own sake, which most wouldnt care about.

what about changing the present to be as if the past had been changed? this sounds more practical. its also a lot more conventional thinking since psychological means can achieve a partial result.

if u act as if the past was a certain way, it will be as if it was, somewhat. however, u dont actually know how it would be, so u can only guess. accuracy aside, u actually have more control than if u did change the past, at least in terms of ur own ripples into reality.

it would be better if u could also convince others that the past was different, since their consciousnesses are also rippling out into reality. if someone does remember something, its a lot harder to convince them it didnt happen outright, and a lot easier to augment how they view what exactly happened. people use this all the time.

 

[Youㅤ]

@RXnd brainstorming on changing the past

 

[RXnd]

Closest I’ve gotten to this is finding things related to past memory’s and trying to brainwash my brain into forgetting/altering memory

Basically using the Jung method

 

[RXnd]

Making sure to self isolate helps extremely with the thought process

You cannot hear a single voice even if it’s online for a couple hours to wipe brain

 

[#1 threat]

I almost went back into 2022 a few days ago I was going to fall asleep and wake up into it but I decided not to last second

 

[Youㅤ]

Closest I’ve gotten to this is finding things related to past memory’s and trying to brainwash my brain into forgetting/altering memory

Basically using the Jung method

i wonder, how would people remember past lives without interacting with their past lives? im pretty sure this is a low IQ question but ill admit im confused.

using the theory of morphic resonance, they would remember their past lives due to similarities in their present life. well this seems always the case from what ive seen.

i dont know the Jung method, i may look into it.

forgetting memories is something i wish i could do. the more u try to forget something, the more u remember it. forgetting is never permanent, theres always a trace.

altering memory is seems easier. but if u remembered something in the way ur trying to remember it, u wouldnt be obsessed with trying to remember it in that way. maybe the phenomenon of memories of memories could be used to alter memory of the past, but it would take a while.

using words to brainwash urself is very effective at creating new ideas of the past. like u can for example ask chatgpt it specific question on history and prompt it to answer in a certain way so that u have an idea of the past in accordance to ur wishes, but this isnt changing ur own life experience.

perhaps first u have to forget something, and then its easier to control what it is remembered as. for example, in theory u experienced being born and what happened after that. but u probably dont remember it consciously at all. if u did an age regression hypnosis u could have the hypnosis made to give u a certain impression on it so u remember it in that way.

 

[Youㅤ]

information is processed while asleep. so perhaps this can be used to control how the processing of the day is operated. u could use things like setting intentions or subliminals (subconscious seeds) or lucid dreaming (conscious imposition into perception)

 

[Youㅤ]

I almost went back into 2022 a few days ago I was going to fall asleep and wake up into it but I decided not to last second

that is very interesting. that decision, how conscious was it?

 

[#1 threat]

that is very interesting. that decision, how conscious was it?

I was right there
had all the energy concentrated after thinking about what I would do differently for the next 3 years (2 hours of thinking) then after changing my mind I let all the energy go I traveled back to this reality and felt very fatigued, not even sure how conscious it was at all

 

[Youㅤ]

I was right there
had all the energy concentrated after thinking about what I would do differently for the next 3 years (2 hours of thinking) then after changing my mind I let all the energy go I traveled back to this reality and felt very fatigued, not even sure how conscious it was at all

so there was a lot of conscious work, but at the end would u say u hesitated or that u confidently chose not to go back to the past? and u say u were in a different reality. that makes sense, it wouldnt be sensical in this reality. it sounds like the energy came out of u, and if it did, i wonder how it changed that other reality? i wonder if it changed the past at all, since that reality was a gate to the past then i wonder if some dissipated energy could find its way there

 

[160cmcurry]

not really, changing the past would basically create a new timeline, essentially a different universe separate from the one you originally knew. think of it like hopping onto another timeline

 

[Youㅤ]

not really, changing the past would basically create a new timeline, essentially a different universe separate from the one you originally knew. think of it like hopping onto another timeline

depends. that implies that the past isnt static. changing a static thing doesnt cause the emergence of a new timeline. unless the energy requirement to change the past is insanely large, and perhaps that energy would move into the proper structures (brain, etc) to transform into consciousness

if another universe (i prefer the word reality but i wont impose my preference) was separate from ours it would mean they dont interact. thats similar to what i concluded, though the theoretical model used was different.

when u say hopping onto another timeline, does that imply the energy used is ur consciousness? that makes sense, didnt think about that. well then if changing the past means going into the past, oh dear. this has changed everything.

 

[160cmcurry]

depends. that implies that the past isnt static. changing a static thing doesnt cause the emergence of a new timeline. unless the energy requirement to change the past is insanely large, and perhaps that energy would move into the proper structures (brain, etc) to transform into consciousness

if another universe (i prefer the word reality but i wont impose my preference) was separate from ours it would mean they dont interact. thats similar to what i concluded, though the theoretical model used was different.

when u say hopping onto another timeline, does that imply the energy used is ur consciousness? that makes sense, didnt think about that. well then if changing the past means going into the past, oh dear. this has changed everything.

yes, you'd be hopping onto another timeline using your consciousness. basically, you'd be killing your past self and replacing it with your past body, but with your current memories and knowledge. even tiny changes in the past could cause a significant divergence, creating a new timeline. essentially, time hopping (going back to the past) would erase the past consciousness of you replacing it with your current consciousness

 

[Youㅤ]

yes, you'd be hopping onto another timeline using your consciousness. basically, you'd be killing your past self and replacing it with your past body, but with your current memories and knowledge. even tiny changes in the past could cause a significant divergence, creating a new timeline. essentially, time hopping (going back to the past) would erase the past consciousness of you replacing it with your current consciousness

this does make sense. so if it happened, i would clearly know. thus i have not succeeded in going back in time in the way i intend. thats unfortunate. whats the next step, i wonder.