“Thick skin” - new cope from people who don’t want to train

[Luke LLL]

“Thick skin” is bro science. Anyone who thinks they have it is overweight. Nobody who is legit lean claims to have it Jfl.

 

[Deleted member 3259]

You are a retard. That is all.

 

[Golden Glass]

“Thick skin” is bro science. Anyone who thinks they have it is overweight. Nobody who is legit lean claims to have it Jfl.

Pretty much. There’s two types of thick skin imo.

“Thick Skin”—things like water or fat retention, and facepulling, ostoeotomies, implants, fillers,etc. will produce bad results.

Thick Skin—actual above average skin thickness, and you can still look better after any of the above procedures.
^^You see plenty of black, Asian, Native American people with thick skin and still with good bone projection.

 

[Deleted member 773]

Thick skin is ideal (more collagen)

 

[Luke LLL]

You are a retard. That is all.

No, you are retarded! And gay.

 

[Deleted member 3259]

Me having a paid online consultation with both Eppley and Yaremchuk:. Due to your thick skin / thick facial tissue, you wont get any good results from implants.

I am 20% bodyfat right now though, what if I were to get down to low body fat and lose weight, would that make a difference?

No, because it's not due to the fat, but rather the thick skin tissue in your face unfortunately.

You: Some random on looksmax, who apparently knows more than Yaremchuk and Eppley.

Thick skin is ideal (more collagen)

retard opinion

Pretty much. There’s two types of thick skin imo.

“Thick Skin”—things like water or fat retention, and facepulling, ostoeotomies, implants, fillers,etc. will produce bad results.

Thick Skin—actual above average skin thickness, and you can still look better after any of the above procedures.
^^You see plenty of black, Asian, Native American people with thick skin and still with good bone projection.

I am starting to think you have thick skin lol

 

[Luke LLL]

Me having a paid online consultation with both Eppley and Yaremchuk:. Due to your thick skin / thick facial tissue, you wont get any good results from implants.

I am 20% bodyfat right now though, what if I were to get down to low body fat and lose weight, would that make a difference?

No, because it's not due to the fat, but rather the thick skin tissue in your face unfortunately.

You: Some random on looksmax, who apparently knows more than Yaremchuk and Eppley.

retard opinion

Show me good transformation pics from them. I’m also in better shape than them. You’re coping because you’re too lazy to get on the exercise bike and lose some fat.

 

[ArabIncel]

I’ve paid Eppley too. I apparently have thick skin too. Yet not once did Eppley say that it would limit me from achieving my goal. Don’t listen to this @honkhonkpatna retard

 

[Deleted member 3259]

I’ve paid Eppley too. I apparently have thick skin too. Yet not once did Eppley say that it would limit me from achieving my goal. Don’t listen to this @honkhonkpatna retard

Ur an Eppleycel

Show me good transformation pics from them. I’m also in better shape than them. You’re coping because you’re too lazy to get on the exercise bike and lose some fat.

So you know more than Eppley and Yaremchuk then?

 

[Luke LLL]

I’ve paid Eppley too. I apparently have thick skin too. Yet not once did Eppley say that it would limit me from achieving my goal. Don’t listen to this @honkhonkpatna retard

They don’t know what they look like at 13% bodyfat

Never seen themselves lean and think their face will not change at all when they lose fat? Jfl

 

[needsolution]

Thick skin is ideal (more collagen)

Tbh it might be true. After 3-4 years of worst lifestyle i could pick (no sunscreen, 4-5l of Coke daily, tons of sweets instead of vitamin rich foods, not taking care about skin) and i still have top tier collagen and glowing skin. And yeah i have thick skin.

 

[Effortless]

"Besides having facial hair, there are structural differences between a man’s skin and a woman’s. Androgen (testosterone) stimulation causes an increase in skin thickness, which accounts for why a man’s skin is about 25% thicker than a woman’s. In addition to being thicker, a man’s skin texture is tougher.

Sebum (oil) and its production also differ. After puberty, sebum production is greater in males than females, which is attributed to androgen secretions and accounts for why men have longer lasting acne.

Regardless of age, men also have a higher collagen density than women. Because collagen content is directly related to the signs of skin ageing, it has been said a woman’s skin is about 15 years older than a man’s of the same age. However, men are less sun savvy than women, meaning they don’t use sunscreens, and could contribute to why the “15 year” skin age difference is not readily noticed. UV damage from the sun can add years to a man’s skin and negate the benefit of slowed intrinsic ageing. "

 

[Luke LLL]

So you know more than Eppley and Yaremchuk then?

About what?

 

[Deleted member 3259]

About what?

About thick skin god damn dude, you dont even know what ur talking about. What a dumb fucking thread lol

 

[Luke LLL]

About thick skin god damn dude, you dont even know what ur talking about. What a dumb fucking thread lol

You know what I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and say I’m 10x smarter than both of them combined. What exactly is the point of this question?

 

[Golden Glass]

Me having a paid online consultation with both Eppley and Yaremchuk:. Due to your thick skin / thick facial tissue, you wont get any good results from implants.

I am 20% bodyfat right now though, what if I were to get down to low body fat and lose weight, would that make a difference?

20% is insanely high. You likely also have a lot of water retention. This is something where, they’d have a very hard time knowing how your face would look like at 8-10% bodyfat. Doesn’t matter what any doctor tells you, if you need to cut your bodyfat by more that much, they can’t really say they know exactly how lean your face will be afterward.

I am starting to think you have thick skin lol

I wish I had slightly thicker skin. I got my dads thin Anglo skin

They don’t know what they look like at 13% bodyfat

Never seen themselves lean and think their face will not change at all when they lose fat? Jfl

Honestly this isn’t a bad point, if you think about it, if I gained fat in the face, got on a high ass sodium diet, and consulted with Eppley or Yaremchuk, they’d likely tell me my skin is too thick, versus if I went right now.

"Besides having facial hair, there are structural differences between a man’s skin and a woman’s. Androgen (testosterone) stimulation causes an increase in skin thickness, which accounts for why a man’s skin is about 25% thicker than a woman’s. In addition to being thicker, a man’s skin texture is tougher.

Sebum (oil) and its production also differ. After puberty, sebum production is greater in males than females, which is attributed to androgen secretions and accounts for why men have longer lasting acne.

Regardless of age, men also have a higher collagen density than women. Because collagen content is directly related to the signs of skin ageing, it has been said a woman’s skin is about 15 years older than a man’s of the same age. However, men are less sun savvy than women, meaning they don’t use sunscreens, and could contribute to why the “15 year” skin age difference is not readily noticed. UV damage from the sun can add years to a man’s skin and negate the benefit of slowed intrinsic ageing. "

This is beside the point. Of course men have thicker skin, but you see great results on men all the time.

 

[Deleted member 3259]

20% is insanely high. You likely also have a lot of water retention. This is something where, they’d have a very hard time knowing how your face would look like at 8-10% bodyfat. Doesn’t matter what any doctor tells you, if you need to cut your bodyfat by more that much, they can’t really say they know exactly how lean your face will be afterward.


I wish I had slightly thicker skin. I got my dads thin Anglo skin



Honestly this isn’t a bad point, if you think about it, if I gained fat in the face, got on a high ass sodium diet, and consulted with Eppley or Yaremchuk, they’d likely tell me my skin is too thick, versus if I went right now.



This is beside the point. Of course men have thicker skin, but you see great results on men all the time.

Be happy then. Thick skin is a living hell lol. And 20% isnt that much, also I just assume that I am 20% bodyfat, could even be lower, and they still could tell by looking at me that it was thick skin. I am 5'10 and 86kg, no muscle mass.

 

[Luke LLL]

Be happy then. Thick skin is a living hell lol. And 20% isnt that much, also I just assume that I am 20% bodyfat, could even be lower, and they still could tell by looking at me that it was thick skin. I am 5'10 and 86kg, no muscle mass.

Send me the pics you sent them. I own a bodyfat scale. My lowest reading was 13%, and right now I’m 15%. My skin looks considerably “thicker” than when I was at 13%, and that’s only 2%. Eppley was too bluepilled to tell you to lose weight.

 

[Golden Glass]

Be happy then. Thick skin is a living hell lol. And 20% isnt that much, also I just assume that I am 20% bodyfat, could even be lower, and they still could tell by looking at me that it was thick skin. I am 5'10 and 86kg, no muscle mass.

At that weight with no muscle mass, you are at the very least around 22-26%.

For reference, 25+% is obese.

Im 5’11 and the leanest I ever got was around 135, so if I got to 190 lbs (about 86kilos) of just fat and no muscle, (assuming I was at 0% bodyfat at 135, which is impossible) I’d have 55 pounds of fat, and 28% bodyfat.

So trust me, if you are borderline to downright obese, I find it hard to believe you can seriously tell how implants will look on you once you’re lean.

 

[Gosick]

Be happy then. Thick skin is a living hell lol. And 20% isnt that much, also I just assume that I am 20% bodyfat, could even be lower, and they still could tell by looking at me that it was thick skin. I am 5'10 and 86kg, no muscle mass.

lol ur more then 20 percent

 

[Deleted member 3259]

lol ur more then 20 percent

Army Body Fat Calculator

This calculator computes body fat percentage using methods from the Army Body Fat Assessment of the Army Body Composition Program.

www.calculator.net

According to this I was like 18%

At that weight with no muscle mass, you are at the very least around 22-26%.

For reference, 25+% is obese.

Im 5’11 and the leanest I ever got was around 135, so if I got to 190 lbs (about 86kilos) of just fat and no muscle, (assuming I was at 0% bodyfat at 135, which is impossible) I’d have 55 pounds of fat, and 28% bodyfat.

So trust me, if you are borderline to downright obese, I find it hard to believe you can seriously tell how implants will look on you once you’re lean.

18% according to https://www.calculator.net/army-body-fat-calculator.html

 

[Luke LLL]

Army Body Fat Calculator

This calculator computes body fat percentage using methods from the Army Body Fat Assessment of the Army Body Composition Program.

www.calculator.net

According to this I was like 18%

18% according to https://www.calculator.net/army-body-fat-calculator.html

This is completely inaccurate, doesn’t even ask for your weight. You’re 20%+ bro. I suggest you go on a run right now.

 

[LordNorwood]

Pretty much. There’s two types of thick skin imo.

“Thick Skin”—things like water or fat retention, and facepulling, ostoeotomies, implants, fillers,etc. will produce bad results.

Thick Skin—actual above average skin thickness, and you can still look better after any of the above procedures.
^^You see plenty of black, Asian, Native American people with thick skin and still with good bone projection.

I always intuitively thought this thick skin shit was cope ngl

 

[Golden Glass]

Army Body Fat Calculator

This calculator computes body fat percentage using methods from the Army Body Fat Assessment of the Army Body Composition Program.

www.calculator.net

According to this I was like 18%

18% according to https://www.calculator.net/army-body-fat-calculator.html

Yeah those calculators aren’t too accurate.

If I’m 5’11 and at my leanest I got to 135,
Then at 5’10 with no muscle, you should be able to get to a similar number (really no reason you shouldn’t be able to).

If you got to 135, and let’s assume that gets you to 5% bodyfat (this is in your favor), then you’d have a difference in fat of 45 pounds.

45/190(your current weight)=23.68% , and this isn’t even adding on the other 5% of fat you’d have at 135.

Remember, obesity starts at 25%

 

[Deleted member 2933]

THE FINAL BLACKPILL IS "EVERYONE IS SCARED OF SURGERIES, SO THEY WILL ALWAYS FIND A EXCUSE TO DONT GET IT"

 

[Golden Glass]

@honkhonkpatna no offense man, but there’s next to zero chance that you aren’t clinically obese.

So if a doctor tells you they can predict how you’ll look with implants once lean, and that you just have “thick skin” that will prevent you from looking good afterwards, I’d take their statement with a huge grain of salt.

 

[Mateusz74]

I am 20% bodyfat right now though, what if I were to get down to low body fat and lose weight, would that make a difference?

No, because it's not due to the fat, but rather the thick skin tissue in your face unfortunately.

What a stupid thing to say. So ur saying u have no face fat at 20% bodyfat? How do u even know ur skin is “thick”? It’d be impossible for ur skin to be that thick where u lose a significant amount of bodyfat and see no changes. This whole “Thick skin” is a retarded cope started by @Gosick

 

[Golden Glass]

What a stupid thing to say. So ur saying u have no face fat at 20% bodyfat? How do u even know ur skin is “thick”? It’d be impossible for ur skin to be that thick where u lose a significant amount of bodyfat and see no changes. This whole “Thick skin” is a retarded cope started by @Gosick

Tbh even @Gosick has said he’s not lean and has gyno...

 

[Gosick]

Army Body Fat Calculator

This calculator computes body fat percentage using methods from the Army Body Fat Assessment of the Army Body Composition Program.

www.calculator.net

According to this I was like 18%

18% according to https://www.calculator.net/army-body-fat-calculator.html

honestly man, just dont even cut and just binge eat

no point since we have thick skn, we will always look high bf no mattr what.

over for us boyo, maybe in our next we can cope with implants or w.e

 

[Zyros]

I am 20% bodyfat right now though, what if I were to get down to low body fat and lose weight, would that make a difference?

No, because it's not due to the fat, but rather the thick skin tissue in your face unfortunately.

YES GOING FROM FREAKIN 20%BODYFAT TO LEAN WOULD MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE EVEN IF YOUR SKIN WAS MADE OF FUCKING LEATHER. Why the fuck do you also check for surgery before seeing how you look lean?!

 

[Mateusz74]

Tbh even @Gosick has said he’s not lean and has gyno...

He said he’s lean and that he has abs and its rather his “thick” skin making him look fat in the face. He didn’t consider that maybe he has bad fat distribution

 

[Gosick]

He said he’s lean and that he has abs and its rather his “thick” skin making him look fat in the face. He didn’t consider that maybe he has bad fat distribution

im 12-14 percent bf yet look 20 percent just cus thick skin of death

 

[Golden Glass]

honestly man, just dont even cut and just binge eat

no point since we have thick skn, we will always look high bf no mattr what.

over for us boyo, maybe in our next we can cope with implants or w.e

You have man tits. Lean down, get your hormones in check (this affects water and fat retention in the face), and then post pics of your face implants.

 

[Mateusz74]

im 12-14 percent bf yet look 20 percent

Bad bodyfat distribution. It’s common. Look at Matt Ogus

 

[Luke LLL]

Thick skin:

 

[Golden Glass]

Bad bodyfat distribution. It’s common. Look at Matt Ogus

That guy also roids, so facial bloat is common. And he doesn’t have great zygos.

But @Gosick should fix his hormones and get facial lipo or something similar, before he complains about skin thickness.

 

[zq336]

Me having a paid online consultation with both Eppley and Yaremchuk:. Due to your thick skin / thick facial tissue, you wont get any good results from implants.

I am 20% bodyfat right now though, what if I were to get down to low body fat and lose weight, would that make a difference?

No, because it's not due to the fat, but rather the thick skin tissue in your face unfortunately.

You: Some random on looksmax, who apparently knows more than Yaremchuk and Eppley.

retard opinion

I am starting to think you have thick skin lol

I've also heard Eppley say thick facial tissues before. He means everything on top of the bone, which includes fat obviously, not just skin.

Yes going down from 20% would make a huge difference

 

[Deleted member 3259]

@honkhonkpatna no offense man, but there’s next to zero chance that you aren’t clinically obese.

So if a doctor tells you they can predict how you’ll look with implants once lean, and that you just have “thick skin” that will prevent you from looking good afterwards, I’d take their statement with a huge grain of salt.

Even if its Eppley and Yaremchuk? U know that they know their shit lol

What a stupid thing to say. So ur saying u have no face fat at 20% bodyfat? How do u even know ur skin is “thick”? It’d be impossible for ur skin to be that thick where u lose a significant amount of bodyfat and see no changes. This whole “Thick skin” is a retarded cope started by @Gosick

If you read the other part, it was thick skin as told by EPPLEY and YAREMCHUK. They would know since they have seen thousands of cases.

 

[Golden Glass]

Even if its Eppley and Yaremchuk? U know that they know their shit lol

Yes even them. They aren’t always perfectly honest or “knowledgeable”—for example, Eppley trashes on osteotomies all the time, but mainly because he just isn’t a great osteotomy doctor.

 

[Deleted member 3259]

Basically they r both too nice to tell ur fat faggot ass to lose weight.

Below room temp iq retard

So thats why when I said "Would it matter if I lost weight?" And they say no?

 

[Deleted member 3593]

JFL @ leanmaxx copers bones are all that matters

 

[Golden Glass]

JFL @ leanmaxx copers bones are all that matters

No ones saying otherwise bro. We’re talking about how hard it is to tell if skin thickness will be an issue for implants or fillers when you’re obese like @honkhonkpatna

 

[Deleted member 3259]

I've also heard Eppley say thick facial tissues before. He means everything on top of the bone, which includes fat obviously, not just skin.

Yes going down from 20% would make a huge difference

But why would he then say that me losing weight and bodyfat literally wouldnt matter? Thats the point I am trying to make. He said that even if I went down to low bodyfat he said that his opinion would be the same.

 

[Deleted member 2933]

Yes even them. They aren’t always perfectly honest or “knowledgeable”—for example, Eppley trashes on osteotomies all the time, but mainly because he just isn’t a great osteotomy doctor.

Them lurkers are saying that with muh thick skin, its pointless to get implants, imagine believing that a narrow jaw, zygoless subhuman wont change his face with a fking 2 cm implant cuz muh thick skin, what gonna happen with the implants for the holy god.

 

[Deleted member 3259]

No ones saying otherwise bro. We’re talking about how hard it is to tell if skin thickness will be an issue for implants or fillers when you’re obese like @honkhonkpatna

According to BMI scale I am high end healthy to tiny bit overweight, but I am definitely not OBESE

Them lurkers are saying that with muh thick skin, its pointless to get implants, imagine believing that a narrow jaw, zygoless subhuman wont change his face with a fking 2 cm implant cuz muh thick skin, what gonna happen with the implants for the holy god.

I can tell you exactly what will happen. Imagine you gently put the tip of a knife towards a towel, you will see the sharpness of the knife on the other side of the towel because the towel is think, now do the same but on a pillow thats much thicker, you wont see the knife tip on the other end because the pillow is too thick.

Knife = Bones
Thin skin = towel
Thick skin = pillow

Of course the skin will get pushed out, but it will end up looking BLOATED and worse, compared to with thin skin, where you are gonna get perfect lines.

 

[Zyros]

According to BMI scale I am high end healthy to tiny bit overweight, but I am definitely not OBESE

20% bodyfat is obese by psl stansards. Your face is completely and totally hidden at this point. Surgeon rejected you becauae your ACTUAL face structure should be visible before asessing which surgeries would suit you. "thick skin" includes bloat and soft tissue in this context. Basicalmy a polite way to avoid calling you fat.

 

[Deleted member 3259]

20% bodyfat is obese by psl stansards. Your face is completely and totally hidden at this point. Surgeon rejected you becauae your ACTUAL face structure should be visible before asessing which surgeries would suit you. "thick skin" includes bloat and soft tissue in this context. Basicalmy a polite way to avoid calling you fat.

Dude do you never read what people write? I literally asked both of them, for the 10th time now. "DOES IT MATTER IF I LOSE WEIGHT?"

"NO IT DOES NOT, BECAUSE IT DOESNT HAVE TO DO WITH THE FAT, BUT THE THICK FACIAL TISSUE, SO EVEN IF YOU LOSE WEIGHT I WILL STAND BY THE SAME OPINION"

Ok?

 

[Zyros]

Dude do you never read what people write? I literally asked both of them, for the 10th time now. "DOES IT MATTER IF I LOSE WEIGHT?"

"NO IT DOES NOT, BECAUSE IT DOESNT HAVE TO DO WITH THE FAT, BUT THE THICK FACIAL TISSUE, SO EVEN IF YOU LOSE WEIGHT I WILL STAND BY THE SAME OPINION"

Ok?

listen to my advicd seriously. lose the weight. at 20 bodyfat the effect will probably be DRAMATIC unless you have extreme bird bones and once wright is lost, check for consultation again. Weight loss is numer ONE priority in looksmaxxing. If you achieve a true lean state you wont even lool like the samd person. You NEVER know what you realmy look lime or if your sirgeon will have the samenopinion qhen you show up being actually lean. Please follow this advice. Im surprised I have to say this at this point in a looksmax forum.

 

[Golden Glass]

According to BMI scale I am high end healthy to tiny bit overweight, but I am definitely not OBESE

BMI is a super fucked measurement.

According to BMI scales, a lean bodybuilder can be considered obese—there’s plenty of videos about this on YouTube.

I already showed you that assuming you have lean body mass of at least 135 pounds, which there’s no way you don’t, then at 190 pounds you are at the very least around 25%, which is obese. You are likely more. Don’t cope about this. You’re clinically obese.

I can tell you exactly what will happen. Imagine you gently put the tip of a knife towards a towel, you will see the sharpness of the knife on the other side of the towel because the towel is think, now do the same but on a pillow thats much thicker, you wont see the knife tip on the other end because the pillow is too thick.

Knife = Bones
Thin skin = towel
Thick skin = pillow

Of course the skin will get pushed out, but it will end up looking BLOATED and worse, compared to with thin skin, where you are gonna get perfect lines.

I’ve seen Eppley use this exact analogy. No two skins on normal people will ever have as much difference in thickness between them as a towel or a pillow. Maybe a towel vs 2 towels, and there, you will still get good projection from a knife underneath.

However, if like in your case, you’re obese, then yes, your soft tissue is likely more comparable. to the pillow.

 

[Deleted member 3259]

listen to my advicd seriously. lose the weight. at 20 bodyfat the effect will probably be DRAMATIC unless you have extreme bird bones and once wright is lost, check for consultation again. Weight loss is numer ONE priority in looksmaxxing. If you achieve a true lean state you wont even lool like the samd person. You NEVER know what you realmy look lime or if your sirgeon will have the samenopinion qhen you show up being actually lean. Please follow this advice. Im surprised I have to say this at this point in a looksmax forum.

Sure I agree with that, but you are still missing the point anyway. Whether I was 30% bodyfat or 10% bodyfat, Eppley can still tell the difference by looking at the quality of your skin, if it's thick skin it literally doesn't matter if you leanmax, there will never be angularity to your face due to the tissue being too thick and blocking bones.