thinking to hop on clenbutrol

[MOLEPULE]

i am thinking to start a clen cycle any guide and is it worth it i need six pack abs

 

[norwoodingmanlet]

i am thinking to start a clen cycle any guide and is it worth it i need six pack abs



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retarded drug that is going to destroy your heart because of cardiomyopathy

a glp with test and hgh is enough or fasted cardio with mots c and maybe a DNP cycle

 

[norwoodingmanlet]

i am thinking to start a clen cycle any guide and is it worth it i need six pack abs



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dnp is no better but atleast it will yield better result

 

[Palan]

retarded drug that is going to destroy your heart because of cardiomyopathy

a glp with test and hgh is enough or fasted cardio with mots c and maybe a DNP cycle

what a bitch parrot response, clenbuterol is a beta-2 agonist, it increases the metabolic rate, lyposis, and thermogenesis via cAMP upregulation, now, it COULD cause cardiac hypertrophy and tachycardia if you run STUPID doses (which nearly everyone who has run this substance is not as it takes a while to find it) for long periods ofo time without potassium/taurine or cardio. However, whenever this is properly run it is one of the most effective tools for getting shredded, even much so fourth whenever you need that last 5-8% body fat in order to see your actual physique.

 

[MOLEPULE]

its

dnp is no better but atleast it will yield better result

expensive and clen is cheap dnp cant source it and its more retatrded it destroy organs

 

[MOLEPULE]

what a bitch parrot response, clenbuterol is a beta-2 agonist, it increases the metabolic rate, lyposis, and thermogenesis via cAMP upregulation, now, it COULD cause cardiac hypertrophy and tachycardia if you run STUPID doses (which nearly everyone who has run this substance is not as it takes a while to find it) for long periods ofo time without potassium/taurine or cardio. However, whenever this is properly run it is one of the most effective tools for getting shredded, even much so fourth whenever you need that last 5-8% body fat in order to see your actual physique.

many people do get very good results

 

[EitherOr]

I did a low dose protocol in the past - 3 days on (20 mcg, 20 mcg, 40 mcg) followed by 4 days off. Combined with cardio, it helped burn fat in places which were otherwise difficult to target. If you are going to do cardio, you could pair clenbuterol with GW501516.

 

[norwoodingmanlet]

what a bitch parrot response, clenbuterol is a beta-2 agonist, it increases the metabolic rate, lyposis, and thermogenesis via cAMP upregulation, now, it COULD cause cardiac hypertrophy and tachycardia if you run STUPID doses (which nearly everyone who has run this substance is not as it takes a while to find it) for long periods ofo time without potassium/taurine or cardio. However, whenever this is properly run it is one of the most effective tools for getting shredded, even much so fourth whenever you need that last 5-8% body fat in order to see your actual physique.

"pulmonary edema, increased cardiac index, and enhanced T-cell proliferation, often worsening inflammation and paradoxically impairing respiratory function"

notice the respiratory damage? because clen fucking sucks and destorys your lungs when you use a dose thats gonna be more effective than walking an extra 20 steps you actual baboon glps and AAS fucking mog kill urself clen nigger

 

[MOLEPULE]

"pulmonary edema, increased cardiac index, and enhanced T-cell proliferation, often worsening inflammation and paradoxically impairing respiratory function"

notice the respiratory damage? because clen fucking sucks and destorys your lungs when you use a dose thats gonna be more effective than walking an extra 20 steps you actual baboon glps and AAS fucking mog kill urself clen nigger

glps are expensive

 

[Palan]

"pulmonary edema, increased cardiac index, and enhanced T-cell proliferation, often worsening inflammation and paradoxically impairing respiratory function"

notice the respiratory damage? because clen fucking sucks and destorys your lungs when you use a dose thats gonna be more effective than walking an extra 20 steps you actual baboon glps and AAS fucking mog kill urself clen nigger

What a fucking retard, "pulmonary edema, increased cardiac index, and enhanced T-cell profliferation, often worsening inflammation and paradoxically impairing respiratory function" holy shit this is actually so sad, those are RARE side effects that occur almost exclusively at ABUSIVE DOSES (120-200 mcg/day) for extended periods of time with zero supportive supplements. Now watch me fucking rip your body apart
As previously stated clenbuterol is a SELECTIVE BETA-2 AGONIST, so it relaxed the bronchial smooth muscle, thats why it was originally developed as an asthma medication. In proper doses it IMPROVES respiratory function, it doesn't impair it. so the paradoxical worsening that you're talking about is EXTREMELY RARE and occurs in people who already have underlying respiratory issues or who blast stupid doses without taurine or potassium.

Now I'm going to attack your bitch "alternatives"
GLP agonists cause severe muscle loss, massive appetite suppression (so you look like a weak fuck) and OBJECTIVE gastrointestinal destruction alongside a long-term metabolic showdown.

also, retard, DNP uncouples oxidative phosphorylation so your cells cook themselves from the inside (people have DIED from this) so you're recommending literal chemical self-immolation whilst crying about the super rare clen based side effects

 

[norwoodingmanlet]

I did a low dose protocol in the past - 3 days on (20 mcg, 20 mcg, 40 mcg) followed by 4 days off. Combined with cardio, it helped burn fat in places which were otherwise difficult to target. If you are going to do cardio, you could pair clenbuterol with GW501516.

this nigga just suggested cardarine LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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[norwoodingmanlet]

What a fucking retard, "pulmonary edema, increased cardiac index, and enhanced T-cell profliferation, often worsening inflammation and paradoxically impairing respiratory function" holy shit this is actually so sad, those are RARE side effects that occur almost exclusively at ABUSIVE DOSES (120-200 mcg/day) for extended periods of time with zero supportive supplements. Now watch me fucking rip your body apart
As previously stated clenbuterol is a SELECTIVE BETA-2 AGONIST, so it relaxed the bronchial smooth muscle, thats why it was originally developed as an asthma medication. In propher doses it IMPROVES respiratory function, it doesn't impair it. so the paradoxical worsening that you're talking about is EXTREMELY RARE and occurs in people who already have underlying respiratory issues or who blast stupid doses without taurine or potassium.

Now I'm going to attack your bitch "alternatives"
GLP agonists cause severe muscle loss, massive appetite suppression (so you look like a weak fuck) and OBJECTIVE gastrointestinal destruction alongside a long-term metabolic showdown.

also, retard, DNP uncouples oxidative phosphorylation so your cells cook themselves from the inside (people have DIED from this) so you're recommending literal chemical self-immolation whilst crying about the super rare clen based side effects

I said dnp was bad lol; "DNP is no better, but at least it will yield better results."

I never said it was safer; it's horrible but better than Clen for fat loss. Anyone knows mitochondrial uncouplers are bad for you when using them to decrease body fat percentage. you also need to understand when someone is shredding down they usually always add HIT with clenbuterol leading to faster drops in potassium as well as any other electrolyte through INCREASED BODY HEAT and hit like any fucking beta agonist does dude

Spoiler

[https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8282592/]

this study shows benefits yes but also shows in animal models why it can be shit

Spoiler: some nigga going to er off only 20 micro grams

[A 25-year-old Caucasian man with no medical history of note was seen in the emergency department following ingestion of the β2-agonist, clenbuterol. At 7:30 that morning, he had taken one tablet equating to 20 μg of clenbuterol; 90 min after ingestion, he developed sudden onset palpitations associated with some central chest pain, nausea, sweating and anxiety. He then presented to his general practitioner (GP), who found the patient's heart rate to be elevated at 140 bpm and a labile blood pressure, with one recording in excess of 220 mm Hg systolic, followed soon after by a reading of 80/20 mm Hg. The GP urgently sent the patient to the emergency department.]

Spoiler: pubmed summary further proving my point

[myocardial ischaemia and tachyarrhythmia including supraventricular tachycardia, atrial fibrillation and ventricular tachycardia.9–11 There is at least one report of clenbuterol use leading to myocardial infarction.11 These cardiovascular effects are mainly mediated by direct β-2 receptor stimulation of the cardiac myocyte as well as on adrenergic nerve terminals in the myocardium.12 13 Commonly seen metabolic disturbances include hyperglycaemia, hypokalaemia, hypomagnesaemia and hypophosphataemia.10 These can exacerbate cardiac rhythm disturbance seen in acute clenbuterol toxicity.]

 

[norwoodingmanlet]

What a fucking retard, "pulmonary edema, increased cardiac index, and enhanced T-cell profliferation, often worsening inflammation and paradoxically impairing respiratory function" holy shit this is actually so sad, those are RARE side effects that occur almost exclusively at ABUSIVE DOSES (120-200 mcg/day) for extended periods of time with zero supportive supplements. Now watch me fucking rip your body apart
As previously stated clenbuterol is a SELECTIVE BETA-2 AGONIST, so it relaxed the bronchial smooth muscle, thats why it was originally developed as an asthma medication. In proper doses it IMPROVES respiratory function, it doesn't impair it. so the paradoxical worsening that you're talking about is EXTREMELY RARE and occurs in people who already have underlying respiratory issues or who blast stupid doses without taurine or potassium.

Now I'm going to attack your bitch "alternatives"
GLP agonists cause severe muscle loss, massive appetite suppression (so you look like a weak fuck) and OBJECTIVE gastrointestinal destruction alongside a long-term metabolic showdown.

also, retard, DNP uncouples oxidative phosphorylation so your cells cook themselves from the inside (people have DIED from this) so you're recommending literal chemical self-immolation whilst crying about the super rare clen based side effects

Sure, all lovey-dovey perfect cycle it can go fine, but imo its shit for fat loss shit for cradio and beta agonists overall are something i think people should avoid yes i know I'm contradicting myself with the DNP thing, but still lol


also then reta comes in and shows way less skeletal muscle loss on glp u nigger

 

[MOLEPULE]

I did a low dose protocol in the past - 3 days on (20 mcg, 20 mcg, 40 mcg) followed by 4 days off. Combined with cardio, it helped burn fat in places which were otherwise difficult to target. If you are going to do cardio, you could pair clenbuterol with GW501516.

yea i heard cardarine is good

 

[MOLEPULE]

What a fucking retard, "pulmonary edema, increased cardiac index, and enhanced T-cell profliferation, often worsening inflammation and paradoxically impairing respiratory function" holy shit this is actually so sad, those are RARE side effects that occur almost exclusively at ABUSIVE DOSES (120-200 mcg/day) for extended periods of time with zero supportive supplements. Now watch me fucking rip your body apart
As previously stated clenbuterol is a SELECTIVE BETA-2 AGONIST, so it relaxed the bronchial smooth muscle, thats why it was originally developed as an asthma medication. In proper doses it IMPROVES respiratory function, it doesn't impair it. so the paradoxical worsening that you're talking about is EXTREMELY RARE and occurs in people who already have underlying respiratory issues or who blast stupid doses without taurine or potassium.

Now I'm going to attack your bitch "alternatives"
GLP agonists cause severe muscle loss, massive appetite suppression (so you look like a weak fuck) and OBJECTIVE gastrointestinal destruction alongside a long-term metabolic showdown.

also, retard, DNP uncouples oxidative phosphorylation so your cells cook themselves from the inside (people have DIED from this) so you're recommending literal chemical self-immolation whilst crying about the super rare clen based side effects

potassium and taurine are they really important i am gonna finish my mk cycle so after i,d hop on for sure i have a eca stack too i didnt used it that much cuz it supresses my appetite and mess w my sleep so should i stack both??

 

[chot]

retarded drug that is going to destroy your heart because of cardiomyopathy

a glp with test and hgh is enough or fasted cardio with mots c and maybe a DNP cycle

You’re a fucking moron

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

Take reta, if you need more add cag, if thats not enough add dnp

 

[EitherOr]

I said dnp was bad lol; "DNP is no better, but at least it will yield better results."

I never said it was safer; it's horrible but better than Clen for fat loss. Anyone knows mitochondrial uncouplers are bad for you when using them to decrease body fat percentage. you also need to understand when someone is shredding down they usually always add HIT with clenbuterol leading to faster drops in potassium as well as any other electrolyte through INCREASED BODY HEAT and hit like any fucking beta agonist does dude

Spoiler

[https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8282592/]

this study shows benefits yes but also shows in animal models why it can be shit

Spoiler: some nigga going to er off only 20 micro grams

[A 25-year-old Caucasian man with no medical history of note was seen in the emergency department following ingestion of the β2-agonist, clenbuterol. At 7:30 that morning, he had taken one tablet equating to 20 μg of clenbuterol; 90 min after ingestion, he developed sudden onset palpitations associated with some central chest pain, nausea, sweating and anxiety. He then presented to his general practitioner (GP), who found the patient's heart rate to be elevated at 140 bpm and a labile blood pressure, with one recording in excess of 220 mm Hg systolic, followed soon after by a reading of 80/20 mm Hg. The GP urgently sent the patient to the emergency department.]

Spoiler: pubmed summary further proving my point

[myocardial ischaemia and tachyarrhythmia including supraventricular tachycardia, atrial fibrillation and ventricular tachycardia.9–11 There is at least one report of clenbuterol use leading to myocardial infarction.11 These cardiovascular effects are mainly mediated by direct β-2 receptor stimulation of the cardiac myocyte as well as on adrenergic nerve terminals in the myocardium.12 13 Commonly seen metabolic disturbances include hyperglycaemia, hypokalaemia, hypomagnesaemia and hypophosphataemia.10 These can exacerbate cardiac rhythm disturbance seen in acute clenbuterol toxicity.]

Go ahead nigga and screw your mitochondria with the oxidative stress caused by DNP instead of improving your mitochondrial function with Cardarine.

 

[norwoodingmanlet]

You’re a fucking moron

Elaborate on how im a moron then? while yes the dnp rec from a safety profile is obv shit but will yield better result than any pussy clen cycle JFLLLL as i said, you are just agreeing with a dude who says a bunch of bullshit on clenbuterol which is a shit drug u know nothing either

Go ahead nigga and screw your mitochondria with the oxidative stress caused by DNP instead of improving your mitochondrial function with Cardarine.

nice cancer drug anything but reta and aas

 

[norwoodingmanlet]

Take reta, if you need more add cag, if thats not enough add dnp

THERE WE GO MY WHITE KNIGHT

 

[EitherOr]

potassium and taurine are they really important i am gonna finish my mk cycle so after i,d hop on for sure i have a eca stack too i didnt used it that much cuz it supresses my appetite and mess w my sleep so should i stack both??

Yes, avoiding electrolyte imbalance is important when using clen. If you go with a fat-based diet, you can throw in some Brazil nuts and cashews alongside electrolyte drinks.

 

[EitherOr]

Elaborate on how im a moron then? while yes the dnp rec from a safety profile is obv shit but will yield better result than any pussy clen cycle JFLLLL as i said, you are just agreeing with a dude who says a bunch of bullshit on clenbuterol which is a shit drug u know nothing either

nice cancer drug anything but reta and aas

Just natural selection. If you get cancer from Cardarine, you are either a moron or have really bad genes.

 

[norwoodingmanlet]

Just natural selection. If you get cancer from Cardarine, you are either a moron or have really bad genes.

@Chad calls it "cancerine" for a reason because it's shit. why the fuck wouldnt you just use something else, pussy boi

"However, safety concerns over GW501516 and potentially other drugs in the class have emerged. Of particular relevance are two abstracts from GSK showing that GW501516 causes cancer in rats6 and mice7 after 104 weeks of dosing. Although neither of these studies has been published as full peer-reviewed papers, these abstracts have been very influential."

 

[Somatropin]

GLP agonists cause severe muscle loss, massive appetite suppression

absolute retard
Appetite suppression is the point so you don’t have to use Clen like an autist
Reta causes less muscle loss all other things equal compared to just using a deficit delete your account

 

[norwoodingmanlet]

absolute retard
Appetite suppression is the point so you don’t have to use Clen like an autist
Reta causes less muscle loss all other things equal compared to just using a deficit delete your account

 

[EitherOr]

@Chad calls it "cancerine" for a reason because it's shit. why the fuck wouldnt you just use something else, pussy boi

"However, safety concerns over GW501516 and potentially other drugs in the class have emerged. Of particular relevance are two abstracts from GSK showing that GW501516 causes cancer in rats6 and mice7 after 104 weeks of dosing. Although neither of these studies has been published as full peer-reviewed papers, these abstracts have been very influential."

Body builders have been taking Cardarine for 20 years now. Obviously, it would be stupid to be precancerous and take high doses of Cardarine for your entire life - as they did with the mice. Just like exercise it mimics, too much is harmful. You need to use it intermittently in lower doses.

 

[norwoodingmanlet]

Body builders have been taking Cardarine for 20 years now. Obviously, it would be stupid to be precancerous and take high doses of Cardarine for your entire life - as they did with the mice. Just like exercise it mimics, too much is harmful. You need to use it intermittently in lower doses.

2 years isnt your entire life and the animal study goes to show how big of an issue it can be

"but the bodybuilders used it" and thats what everyone says before using a shit drug me included stop buying into that dumb ass analogy

 

[EitherOr]

absolute retard
Appetite suppression is the point so you don’t have to use Clen like an autist
Reta causes less muscle loss all other things equal compared to just using a deficit delete your account

Reta is a good addition to control appetite if that is a problem, but it won't affect where you lose fat - you need a beta-2 agonist to go beyond your generics.

 

[chot]

Elaborate on how im a moron then? while yes the dnp rec from a safety profile is obv shit but will yield better result than any pussy clen cycle JFLLLL as i said, you are just agreeing with a dude who says a bunch of bullshit on clenbuterol which is a shit drug u know nothing either

nice cancer drug anything but reta and aas

If you need anything more than Clen to cut you’re a fucking moron and you need to put down the fork. Dnp is extremely dangerous and recommending it over Clen is worse advice and unsafer than just recommending a safe Clen cycle and protocol. I literally lost 13 pounds in a week on just clen, my Tren or test didn’t saturate yet cuz I started both at the same time. How much weight do you fat fucks need to lose to want to hop on dnp? Are you fucking stupid? Also you lose muscle on dnp while you retain it on Clen, you just sound like a dumbass tbh Clen is the king of cutting orals for a reason. Also Reta has more sides than Clen and you lose weight way slower, it’s objectively unhealthier and less effective. No one is listening to you brittle bone ass niggas

 

[norwoodingmanlet]

If you need anything more than Clen to cut you’re a fucking moron and you need to put down the fork. Dnp is extremely dangerous and recommending it over Clen is worse advice and unsafer than just recommending a safe Clen cycle and protocol. I literally lost 13 pounds in a week on just clen, my Tren or test didn’t saturate yet cuz I started both at the same time. How much weight do you fat fucks need to lose to want to hop on dnp? Are you fucking stupid? Also you lose muscle on dnp while you retain it on Clen, you just sound like a dumbass tbh Clen is the king of cutting orals for a reason. Also Reta has more sides than Clen and you lose weight way slower, it’s objectively unhealthier and less effective. No one is listening to you brittle bone ass niggas

"reta has more sides than Clen."

im amazed at your iq

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

Body builders have been taking Cardarine for 20 years now. Obviously, it would be stupid to be precancerous and take high doses of Cardarine for your entire life - as they did with the mice. Just like exercise it mimics, too much is harmful. You need to use it intermittently in lower doses.

Obv the mice studies cant be perfectly extrapolated to humans but we dont have much human data so using a potentially carcinogenic compound is stupid when we have safer and more effective compounds like glps if its just weihht loss in general, mots-c or ss31 for metabolic and mitocondrial health or slu pp 32, if youre willing to risk cancer you might as well go with the superior compound

 

[chot]

"reta has more sides than Clen."

im amazed at your iq

Yeah you’re amazed cuz im so much fucking smarter than you nigger. Taking too much clen is like taking too much caffeine. Taking too much Reta is like getting fucking food poisoning. Enjoy your weak small ass bones tho dumb nigger

 

[norwoodingmanlet]

Yeah you’re amazed cuz im so much fucking smarter than you nigger. Taking too much clen is like taking too much caffeine. Taking too much Reta is like getting fucking food poisoning. Enjoy your weak small ass bones tho dumb nigger

LMFAOOO TAKING TOO MUCH CLEN IS LIKE TAKING TOO MUCH CAFFEINE

down below i attached a good picture you should get used to relating to

 

[Somatropin]

Reta is a good addition to control appetite if that is a problem, but it won't affect where you lose fat - you need a beta-2 agonist to go beyond your generics.

You need a calorie deficit

 

[chot]

TAKING TOO MUCH CLEN IS LIKE TAKING TOO MUCH CAFFEINE

down below i attached a good picture you should get used to relating to

You must not know how to run clen. If you run it in low doses and for shot cycles there is literally no risk and the only sides are shaky hands and heart palpitations but nebi stops that. Which is identical if not better than caffeine

 

[MOLEPULE]

Take reta, if you need more add cag, if thats not enough add dnp

cant find it and in pakistan and its very expensive

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

cant find it and in pakistan and its very expensive

Nigga lives in pakistan

 

[MOLEPULE]

If you need anything more than Clen to cut you’re a fucking moron and you need to put down the fork. Dnp is extremely dangerous and recommending it over Clen is worse advice and unsafer than just recommending a safe Clen cycle and protocol. I literally lost 13 pounds in a week on just clen, my Tren or test didn’t saturate yet cuz I started both at the same time. How much weight do you fat fucks need to lose to want to hop on dnp? Are you fucking stupid? Also you lose muscle on dnp while you retain it on Clen, you just sound like a dumbass tbh Clen is the king of cutting orals for a reason. Also Reta has more sides than Clen and you lose weight way slower, it’s objectively unhealthier and less effective. No one is listening to you brittle bone ass niggas

bro like what to expect i am arnd 72 kgs with decent muscle mass but i wanna get shredded so i can have proper 6 pack

 

[MOLEPULE]

You need a calorie deficit

i,d say i should add everything reta is good but cant source it im not concerned abt the sides and i cant source dnp either so clen is a go to every gym has it and its cheap

 

[MOLEPULE]

You must not know how to run clen. If you run it in low doses and for shot cycles there is literally no risk and the only sides are shaky hands and heart palpitations but nebi stops that. Which is identical if not better than caffeine

whats nebi

 

[MOLEPULE]

Nigga lives in pakistan

yes whats wrng w it?? u dumb ass

 

[chot]

whats nebi

Nebivolol get it from aipct it stops heart palps and lowers heart rate. You can lose 20-30lbs on a clen cut depends how serious you take it. 13lbs was more than enough for me so I’m bulking again

 

[purpleskulltrooper]

retarded drug that is going to destroy your heart because of cardiomyopathy

a glp with test and hgh is enough or fasted cardio with mots c and maybe a DNP cycle

mots c is useless on test throwing money down the drain either way
clen, slu pp megadose, BAM15, even fucking albuterol all mog

 

[MOLEPULE]

Nebivolol get it from aipct it stops heart palps and lowers heart rate. You can lose 20-30lbs on a clen cut depends how serious you take it. 13lbs was more than enough for me so I’m bulking again

like i wanna se my whole abs area here is the old photo i was skinny now i bulked and i am 20 pounds heavier