JohnRea
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I wonder how much it costs
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I wonder what would happen if I punched him in the face?
I wonder how much it costs
instant deathI wonder what would happen if I punched him in the face?
Depens on what the implant is made of, I think.I wonder what would happen if I punched him in the face?
I wonder how much it costs
Im 100% certain some PSL autist got this done, im sure of it, its augmenting his brow ridge, jawline zygos and undereyes, no bluepill niggas decide to augment brow ridgeLol is it purely cosmetic of did this nikka get in some severe car accident and needs reconstructive shit done
INSANE
That man eppley has severe physchological issues. You have got to be genuinely retarded to consider this or lefort 3, to think ud even look better after this is absurd. You facial muscles cannot adapt to that much change, people can see uve had surgery and looks unnatural.
lol, imagine all the bone erosion over time, shifting and general risks...insane
How the fuck can you function normally with so much foreign shit in your face
lmaglne what would happen lf he got punched ln the face really hardlol, imagine all the bone erosion over time, shifting and general risks...insane
How the fuck can you function normally with so much foreign shit in your face
Bone erosion is caused by silicone implants only.
Bone erosion happens for 0-2 mm in the chin only, implant material doesn't matter.
Why would it only happen in the chin? It’s not like the chin bone is made of a different type of bone than the zygos for example.Bone erosion happens for 0-2 mm in the chin only, implant material doesn't matter.
I had about 6mm and 3mm of erosion at my right and left jaw angle respectively after just 1 year of off the shelf silicon jaw angle implants. I've also seen CT scans of people with silicon cheek implants where the implant eroded all the way into the maxillary sinus. It's a phenomenon pretty much exclusive to non fixated off the shelf implants
Insane bro, 6mm erosion is looksmining. Implants must be rigid and fixed on the bones, silicone is a meme, eppley is a meme.
Here's the ct. Anyone who says it's only a mm or two and just in the chin is either lying or doesn't know better.
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Thats what i say, only real life experience matters, since 99,9% of the forum never had any surgery its pointless to argue with anyone. My Dr is also against silicone
If I remember correctly it is because the muscles around the chin have stronger pulling forces in regards to an implant than say cheek muscles and zygo implantsWhy would it only happen in the chin? It’s not like the chin bone is made of a different type of bone than the zygos for example.
Either implants cause erosion on all bones, or none.
That actually makes sense.If I remember correctly it is because the muscles around the chin have stronger pulling forces in regards to an implant than say cheek muscles and zygo implants
Do you think screw fixated infraorbital / cheek implants would be safe in terms of bone erosion?I had about 6mm and 3mm of erosion at my right and left jaw angle respectively after just 1 year of off the shelf silicon jaw angle implants. I've also seen CT scans of people with silicon cheek implants where the implant eroded all the way into the maxillary sinus. It's a phenomenon pretty much exclusive to non fixated off the shelf implants
Do you think screw fixated infraorbital / cheek implants would be safe in terms of bone erosion?
It’s because of the force the surrounding muscles exert on the implant against the bone (and even then, this only happens when the implant isn’t fixated to the bone.) Muscles contract every time you chew food, yawn, and every time you speak. This movement is what creates the friction and thus erosion of bone with a chin implant vs malar/orbital implant. Also AFAIK all cases of bone erosion were involving implants that had not been fixated to the underlying bone structure. The movement is what causes friction which causes erosionWhy would it only happen in the chin? It’s not like the chin bone is made of a different type of bone than the zygos for example.
Either implants cause erosion on all bones, or none.
Bro, do you realize that Eppley’s implants are both rigid AND fixed to the bone with screws? No offense but you seem to be contradicting your own thoughtsInsane bro, 6mm erosion is looksmining. Implants must be rigid and fixed on the bones, silicone is a meme, eppley is a meme.
I had about 6mm and 3mm of erosion at my right and left jaw angle respectively after just 1 year of off the shelf silicon jaw angle implants. I've also seen CT scans of people with silicon cheek implants where the implant eroded all the way into the maxillary sinus. It's a phenomenon pretty much exclusive to non fixated off the shelf implants
It’s because of the force the surrounding muscles exert on the implant against the bone (and even then, this only happens when the implant isn’t fixated to the bone.) Muscles contract every time you chew food, yawn, and every time you speak. This movement is what creates the friction and thus erosion of bone with a chin implant vs malar/orbital implant. Also AFAIK all cases of bone erosion were involving implants that had not been fixated to the underlying bone structure. The movement is what causes friction which causes erosion
Bro, do you realize that Eppley’s implants are both rigid AND fixed to the bone with screws? No offense but you seem to be contradicting your own thoughts
Why does silicon cause bone erosion but other materials don't? Is it some intrinsic material quality thing or just the method that its screwed in by?
Yeah you're right, I should have been more specific.
Off the shelf implants are more likely to cause erosion due to the uneven pressures they exert on the bone, and unscrewed implants can also cause erosion due to micro-movements of the implant.
Custom implants fit to the bone and are usually screwed in, so erosion is mostly a non issue. Over the chin however, the tissue pad is a bit tighter so there's more pressure compared to other implants. But I've seen studies that most people only get 0-1 mm erosion in the chin, and at most it's 2 mm.
I don't think material of the implant matters, it's more about the pressure applied to the bone. I've seen my CT scans after my lefort 1, and the titanium plates they used also caused imprints.
I don't think it's a continuous process though, the erosion happens as the implant settles in and then stops.
By my understanding, it is flexible enough to bend slightly, which is helpful during surgery because it allows smaller incisions to be sufficient, but once it is fixated to the bone, it feels hard to the touch in a way that feels identical to actual bone. I haven’t had any implants myself, but I’ve had bimax. Implants are still something I’m interested in, particularly the infraorbital/malar region. I am curious about how a different material would make any difference to the issue of erosion (which is caused by friction of the implant moving around, we agree on this? and it can thus be prevented by screw fixation regardless of material type?) Also curious how would a different material type affect pressure being placed on the bone?Silicone is not a rigid material, its flexibe.
Have u had any cosmetic surgery?
My Dr said its because of the pressure which the silicone makes on the bone. A 100% rigid material with screw will only touch the bone.
By my understanding, it is flexible enough to bend slightly, which is helpful during surgery because it allows smaller incisions to be sufficient, but once it is fixated to the bone, it feels hard to the touch in a way that feels identical to actual bone. I haven’t had any implants myself, but I’ve had bimax. Implants are still something I’m interested in, particularly the infraorbital/malar region. I am curious about how a different material would make any difference to the issue of erosion (which is caused by friction of the implant moving around, we agree on this? and it can thus be prevented by screw fixation regardless of material type?) Also curious how would a different material type affect pressure being placed on the bone?
Silicone is not a rigid material, its flexibe.
Have u had any cosmetic surgery?
My Dr said its because of the pressure which the silicone makes on the bone. A 100% rigid material with screw will only touch the bone.
Tbh the risk of infection is in every type of surgery...imagine getting an infection and being told 75% needs to come out
It's the non fixated implants doing the erosion.Fixating an implant to your skull if anything would only cause more pressure