This is what exploitation looks like. Recent email I received.

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There's this company that recently sent me an e-mail. I didn't apply for it. I don't even know how they got my email. They basically directly gave me an offer for their low effort fully remote job. It's basically more or less ChatGPT cut copy paste type role that I usually dnrd because they are low wages and I like Intellectually stimulating work

But here's the kicker and why I'm posting: I think this is a perfect snapshot of how tech remote work, and outsourcing are gutting low tier low level entry level white collar careers in countries like the UK.

It is Fully Remote with annual Salary: INR 8,00,000 CTC (Approx. Β£7,600 - Β£8,500 GBP).

For the Employer. They get a fully trained employee for a salary that is okaish in India, but 70-75% cheaper than what they'd have to pay the equivalent junior employee in Manchester (where this role starts at ~Β£25k-Β£30k). They also baited by promising to raise your salary to Β£20k within a year and

This is how Mr John average in UK loses his job and stays unemployed.. Never grinded in Uni and just coasted through and now has to fight for these low paying roles. The low tier entry level roles that used to be given locals(e.g., junior support, basic admin are being replaced by global, remote roles that are competitively paid in their local market (India, Philippines, Eastern Europe) but are a fraction of the cost for the Western company.

This is what real exploitation looks like. Not the offers at Amazon or MAANG or American companies that I work at but these low level roles. If I accepted this job some bloke in Manchester in losing his job.

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Just learn the language and constantly move to the country where big companies move, so you'll never be out of a job, theory.. lol
 
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Just learn the language and constantly move to the country where big companies move, so you'll never be out of a job, theory.. lol
No be so highly skilled that you can't be replaced.

 
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This is how Mr John average in UK loses his job and stays unemployed.. Never grinded in Uni and just coasted through and now has to fight for these low paying roles. The low tier entry level roles that used to be given locals(e.g., junior support, basic admin are being replaced by global, remote roles that are competitively paid in their local market (India, Philippines, Eastern Europe) but are a fraction of the cost for the Western company.

This is what real exploitation looks like. Not the offers at Amazon or MAANG or American companies that I work at. If I accepted this job some bloke in Manchester in losing his job.

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Uni grinding is not for everyone and does not certainly give really great results
@optimisticzoomer

If to get an acceptable job people need to waste away their youth studying, it means the system is broken.
 
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Uni grinding is not for everyone and does not certainly give really great results
@optimisticzoomer

If to get an acceptable job people need to waste away their youth studying, it means the system is broken.
If you dont grind in uni you are going to stay unemployed tho
 
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Interesting. This is why capitalism is inherrently antagonistic to any true national movement.
 
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There's this company that recently sent me an e-mail. I didn't apply for it. I don't even know how they got my email. They basically directly gave me an offer for their low effort fully remote job. It's basically more or less ChatGPT cut copy paste type role that I usually dnrd because they are low wages and I like Intellectually stimulating work
Could just be some scammer collecting fullz/id docs

run the website on whois, was it created recently :lul:
 
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Just today a company representative from Germany came to our office in person in Eastern Europe, and announced how things are not looking good for the automotive industry (so is our company), how cost cuts are needed, and that they will be moving some positions/departments to India, and those who will be affected will receive a personal mail, lol

Thanks to Trump's tariffs, thanks to the decline in demand because of artificial loan-based economy, so the decline of the middle class, and thanks to China becoming more competitive through more advanced technology, so Europe boomers can't keep up..

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Could just be some scammer collecting fullz/id docs

run the website on whois, was it created recently :lul:
Not really it's a well established startup but I've noticed startups outside of the US often do aggressive cost cutting like this because they are usually not well funded by VCs like in america
 
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Just today a company representative from Germany came to our office in person in Eastern Europe, and announced how things are not looking good for the automotive industry (so is our company), how cost cuts are needed, and that they will be moving some positions/departments to India, and those who will be affected will receive a personal mail, lol

Thanks to Trump's tariffs, thanks to the decline in demand because of artificial loan-based economy, so the decline of the middle class, and thanks to China becoming more competitive through more advanced technology, so Europe boomers can't keep up..

Season 5 Ghost GIF by Power
West europe's done for.
 
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Could just be some scammer collecting fullz/id docs

run the website on whois, was it created recently :lul:
Tbh wages in the UK in general are very shit compared to America
 
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UK, France, Netherlands, Germany... It's not what it used to be.
Dont know about Netherlands and France but German wages are shit too
 
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Just today a company representative from Germany came to our office in person in Eastern Europe, and announced how things are not looking good for the automotive industry (so is our company), how cost cuts are needed, and that they will be moving some positions/departments to India, and those who will be affected will receive a personal mail, lol

Thanks to Trump's tariffs, thanks to the decline in demand because of artificial loan-based economy, so the decline of the middle class, and thanks to China becoming more competitive through more advanced technology, so Europe boomers can't keep up..

Season 5 Ghost GIF by Power
Europe is a continent that is dying fast due to the birth rates, East Asia is dying too, but they have a higher population so they are still good in the coming years
 
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There's this company that recently sent me an e-mail. I didn't apply for it. I don't even know how they got my email. They basically directly gave me an offer for their low effort fully remote job. It's basically more or less ChatGPT cut copy paste type role that I usually dnrd because they are low wages and I like Intellectually stimulating work

But here's the kicker and why I'm posting: I think this is a perfect snapshot of how tech remote work, and outsourcing are gutting low tier low level entry level white collar careers in countries like the UK.

It is Fully Remote with annual Salary: INR 8,00,000 CTC (Approx. Β£7,600 - Β£8,500 GBP).

For the Employer. They get a fully trained employee for a salary that is okaish in India, but 70-75% cheaper than what they'd have to pay the equivalent junior employee in Manchester (where this role starts at ~Β£25k-Β£30k). They also baited by promising to raise your salary to Β£20k within a year and

This is how Mr John average in UK loses his job and stays unemployed.. Never grinded in Uni and just coasted through and now has to fight for these low paying roles. The low tier entry level roles that used to be given locals(e.g., junior support, basic admin are being replaced by global, remote roles that are competitively paid in their local market (India, Philippines, Eastern Europe) but are a fraction of the cost for the Western company.

This is what real exploitation looks like. Not the offers at Amazon or MAANG or American companies that I work at but these low level roles. If I accepted this job some bloke in Manchester in losing his job.

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Well you work with tech no? So i imagine you have a big Internet footprint? Also every org Rotter is on some strange ass sites. Probably data brokers
 
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Dont know about Netherlands and France but German wages are shit too
It's all shit everywhere.

You will own nothing and be happy, Agenda 2030... you know.

The goal is make the middle class disappear (soon to be done) and adopt neo-feudalism.
 
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Europe is a continent that is dying fast due to the birth rates, East Asia is dying too, but they have a higher population so they are still good in the coming years
Thoughts on this thread? Is it similar in
Finance too
 
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Europe is a continent that is dying fast due to the birth rates, East Asia is dying too, but they have a higher population so they are still good in the coming years
It's not a birth rates issue.
 
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Well you work with tech no? So i imagine you have a big Internet footprint? Also every org Rotter is on some strange ass sites. Probably data brokers
I think it must be that UK jobs portal that I applied to many weeks ago.
 
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TECH BRO HERE

PLS PM
 
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UK, France, Netherlands, Germany... It's not what it used to be.
Yeah but outside of UK and France, basically all European countries have better quality of life and work life balance than the USA which is hypercompetitive, violent, no job security, and very hostile towards foreigners now that Trump is in power, I still can't believe that bullshit with the 100k h1b visa

It's not a birth rates issue.
That's literally the main issue if you look it up in every western country their birth rates are tanking and the native youth population is shrinking fast with each generation

Thoughts on this thread? Is it similar in
Finance too
Yeah kind of, but I haven't looked too much into it, for now they say things are stable
 
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Uni grinding is not for everyone and does not certainly give really great results
@optimisticzoomer

If to get an acceptable job people need to waste away their youth studying, it means the system is broken.
The best jobs don’t require formal educational qualifications
 
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This is basic capitalism. Why pay high wages for workers in western countries when there is an unlimited pool of cheap workers available elsewhere? Being average doesn't cut it anymore.
 
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This is basic capitalism. Why pay high wages for workers in western countries when there is an unlimited pool of cheap workers available elsewhere? Being average doesn't cut it anymore.
Be irreplaceable or be replaced
 
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There's this company that recently sent me an e-mail. I didn't apply for it. I don't even know how they got my email. They basically directly gave me an offer for their low effort fully remote job. It's basically more or less ChatGPT cut copy paste type role that I usually dnrd because they are low wages and I like Intellectually stimulating work

But here's the kicker and why I'm posting: I think this is a perfect snapshot of how tech remote work, and outsourcing are gutting low tier low level entry level white collar careers in countries like the UK.

It is Fully Remote with annual Salary: INR 8,00,000 CTC (Approx. Β£7,600 - Β£8,500 GBP).

For the Employer. They get a fully trained employee for a salary that is okaish in India, but 70-75% cheaper than what they'd have to pay the equivalent junior employee in Manchester (where this role starts at ~Β£25k-Β£30k). They also baited by promising to raise your salary to Β£20k within a year and

This is how Mr John average in UK loses his job and stays unemployed.. Never grinded in Uni and just coasted through and now has to fight for these low paying roles. The low tier entry level roles that used to be given locals(e.g., junior support, basic admin are being replaced by global, remote roles that are competitively paid in their local market (India, Philippines, Eastern Europe) but are a fraction of the cost for the Western company.

This is what real exploitation looks like. Not the offers at Amazon or MAANG or American companies that I work at but these low level roles. If I accepted this job some bloke in Manchester in losing his job.

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Nigga I'd pay you more to be my personal foot stool
 
No need. I already have job offers that pay multiple times
That's good. But remember, if AI takes your job in the future you will always have a position available with me.
 
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