this video made me come back to islam,it answered all my questions about this peculiar topic

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@SecularIslamist I rejected yahweh because of his evil character(I made a thread about it,child sacrifice,deception,coveting and injustice) and I was led by the devil to believe allah was the same way but I now know allah is perfect thanks to this video
 
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@SecularIslamist I rejected yahweh because of his evil character(I made a thread about it,child sacrifice,deception,coveting and injustice) and I was led by the devil to believe allah was the same way but I now know allah is perfect thanks to this video

The introductory screen capture shows a Muslim about to pick his nose. Across from him is a child that appears violated, probably by him.

No, thank you!
 
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The introductory screen capture shows a Muslim about to pick his nose. Across from him is a child that appears violated, probably by him.

No, thank you!
it's simple,Allaah(aj)is the only good God described in his book.odin,quetzacoatl,viaracocha,kali,shiva,christianity's jesus,yahweh and krishna all have evil characters.
 
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Is she Halal?
 
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delusion after delusion
 
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it's simple,Allaah(aj)is the only good God described in his book.odin,quetzacoatl,viaracocha,kali,shiva,christianity's jesus,yahweh and krishna all have evil characters.
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all of them did human sacrifice but allah,and krishna was a deceptive womanizer that tempted married gopis.

in the vedas for example it says homage to the robber and the cheat(refering to brahman).
 
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delusion after delusion
okay,so we have contigent things all around us,either they're infinite(actual concrete quantitiative infinites can't exist but let's say they can) or finite


infinite:

nothing could ever be actualized as contigent,as the series is infinite and thus equivelant to nothing as nothing can ever be actualized in real time wether in a vertical temporal series or just as a series of now.

finite:the first in the series is not conditioned by anything else so it must be God

so no,it is LOGICAL to believe in GOD
 
Now go watch Sam Shamoun to get even better answers.
 
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Now go watch Sam Shamoun to get even better answers.

I would like sam shamoun to explain why yahweh condemns crafty and coveteous men while being covetous and deceptive?
 


@SecularIslamist I rejected yahweh because of his evil character(I made a thread about it,child sacrifice,deception,coveting and injustice) and I was led by the devil to believe allah was the same way but I now know allah is perfect thanks to this video

No such thing as a "god". Lmao at delusional fags, we are on a floating rock in space mate. NGMI
 
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No such thing as a "god". Lmao at delusional fags, we are on a floating rock in space mate. NGMI
how can conditioned things exist without a unconditioned thing supporting their existance?
 

I would like sam shamoun to explain why yahweh condemns crafty and coveteous men while being covetous and deceptive?
Then go ask him, he takes public calls, he's also probably already explained this already.

But ironic to call God deceptive when Allah supposedly deceived the entire world for 600 years with Jesus' crucifixion.
 
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Then go ask him, he takes public calls, he's also probably already explained this already.

But ironic to call God deceptive when Allah supposedly deceived the entire world for 600 years with Jesus' crucifixion.
he doesn't argue or discuss in good faith and has a very foul mouth
 
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he doesn't argue or discuss in good faith and has a very foul mouth
I disagree, he only acts up if you act deceptive or insulting first.

But if not him why not God Logic or Jay Dyer? Unless you think they argue in bad faith too, in which case, that seems pretty dishonest.
 
I disagree, he only acts up if you act deceptive or insulting first.

But if not him why not God Logic or Jay Dyer? Unless you think they argue in bad faith too, in which case, that seems pretty dishonest.
why would I need to ask an apologist....an apologist..their main goal is to defend christianity at all costs.you can send my thread to th answeringislam team and let them write an article.

but I've been following that camp(sam shamoun,david wood etc)since 12 years ago and left christianity despite the apologetics.
 
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why would I need to ask an apologist....an apologist..their main goal is to defend christianity at all costs.you can send my thread to th answeringislam team and let them write an article.

but I've been following that camp(sam shamoun,david wood etc)since 12 years ago and left christianity despite the apologetics.
So you would dismiss an argument because an apologist is making it, so should I dismiss any argument an Islamic apologist makes because their goal is to defend Islam at all costs?
 
So you would dismiss an argument because an apologist is making it, so should I dismiss any argument an Islamic apologist makes because their goal is to defend Islam at all costs?
maybe you don't understand me well,but the above video is not a response to a other religion.

sam shamoun,jay dyer etc are very hostile towards islam and both islam and christianity clould hypothetically be wrong.


I know for a fact christianity is evil.I know hinduism is evil.I know judiasm of the talmudhic and kabbalistic stripe is evil.I know wotanism and nordic paganism is evil.I know the religion of my ancestors is evil too.

I've studied these religions in depth.
 
maybe you don't understand me well,but the above video is not a response to a other religion.

sam shamoun,jay dyer etc are very hostile towards islam and both islam and christianity clould hypothetically be wrong.


I know for a fact christianity is evil.I know hinduism is evil.I know judiasm of the talmudhic and kabbalistic stripe is evil.I know wotanism and nordic paganism is evil.I know the religion of my ancestors is evil too.

I've studied these religions in depth.
If you believe something to be a lie created by the devil to lead people away from the truth, and I would argue know not believe, would you not be hostile towards it?

If you believe Christianity is evil, then you should be hostile towards it, but that's a bit hard when Jesus is claimed to be a prophet in Islam, and The Quran affirms both the Old Testament and The New Testament, now most claims of corruption from Muslims are in relation to anything in The Old or New Testament which affirm a trinity or Jesus as God, but denying so called "attrocities" or "evil actions" made by God I'm pretty sure is not something denied or claimed to be evil by most Islamic scholars, for good reason aswell, because that God is claimed to be Allah aswell.

Of course I would argue nothing in The Old or New Testament endorsed by God in history was an evil action.

Wiping out tribes who practiced cannibalism, rape, child sacrifice, and much worse as a common daily occurrence for hundreds of years is evil? Get real, God even ordered the children to be killed in these cases to spare them from hellfire when they grew up and lived a life of sin without remorse.

If you knew as God knew, a child would grow up to be evil and go to hell, then YES it would be completely justified and moral to kill that child and send them to God, but YOU are not God, nobody is, we do not know how someone's fate will turn out that young in many cases which is why making such a choice without holy intervention is not a good idea and likely a grave sin and murder.

Anyways regardless, I agree that every other pagan religion you mentioned is evil aswell and likely created by The Devil, I would just lump Islam in there too, and frankly there's more reason to do so, a good argument is a good argument.

If a gnostic made a good argument I would be gnostic, if a Muslim or Buddhist did, or Sikh or Hindu, I would be those things, or some Nordic pagan.

If you believe God is evil in The Old Testament that's not an argument for Islam, that's an argument for Gnosticism, which is also Satanic anyways.
 
If you believe something to be a lie created by the devil to lead people away from the truth, and I would argue know not believe, would you not be hostile towards it?

If you believe Christianity is evil, then you should be hostile towards it, but that's a bit hard when Jesus is claimed to be a prophet in Islam, and The Quran affirms both the Old Testament and The New Testament, now most claims of corruption from Muslims are in relation to anything in The Old or New Testament which affirm a trinity or Jesus as God, but denying so called "attrocities" or "evil actions" made by God I'm pretty sure is not something denied or claimed to be evil by most Islamic scholars, for good reason aswell, because that God is claimed to be Allah aswell.

Of course I would argue nothing in The Old or New Testament endorsed by God in history was an evil action.

Wiping out tribes who practiced cannibalism, rape, child sacrifice, and much worse as a common daily occurrence for hundreds of years is evil? Get real, God even ordered the children to be killed in these cases to spare them from hellfire when they grew up and lived a life of sin without remorse.

If you knew as God knew, a child would grow up to be evil and go to hell, then YES it would be completely justified and moral to kill that child and send them to God, but YOU are not God, nobody is, we do not know how someone's fate will turn out that young in many cases which is why making such a choice without holy intervention is not a good idea and likely a grave sin and murder.

Anyways regardless, I agree that every other pagan religion you mentioned is evil aswell and likely created by The Devil, I would just lump Islam in there too, and frankly there's more reason to do so, a good argument is a good argument.

If a gnostic made a good argument I would be gnostic, if a Muslim or Buddhist did, or Sikh or Hindu, I would be those things, or some Nordic pagan.

If you believe God is evil in The Old Testament that's not an argument for Islam, that's an argument for Gnosticism, which is also Satanic anyways.
woah,You're willing to defend a child sacrificer just to defend some social club?

Jehovah sacrificed children himself.he also says in the plain wording of the prophets that these children of the babylonians are to be killed FOR THE SIN of their fathers,I mean it's right their in the text.that's unjust.

Your God also deceived people so they wouldn't 'turn and be forgiven'.
 
If you believe something to be a lie created by the devil to lead people away from the truth, and I would argue know not believe, would you not be hostile towards it?

If you believe Christianity is evil, then you should be hostile towards it, but that's a bit hard when Jesus is claimed to be a prophet in Islam, and The Quran affirms both the Old Testament and The New Testament, now most claims of corruption from Muslims are in relation to anything in The Old or New Testament which affirm a trinity or Jesus as God, but denying so called "attrocities" or "evil actions" made by God I'm pretty sure is not something denied or claimed to be evil by most Islamic scholars, for good reason aswell, because that God is claimed to be Allah aswell.

Of course I would argue nothing in The Old or New Testament endorsed by God in history was an evil action.

Wiping out tribes who practiced cannibalism, rape, child sacrifice, and much worse as a common daily occurrence for hundreds of years is evil? Get real, God even ordered the children to be killed in these cases to spare them from hellfire when they grew up and lived a life of sin without remorse.

If you knew as God knew, a child would grow up to be evil and go to hell, then YES it would be completely justified and moral to kill that child and send them to God, but YOU are not God, nobody is, we do not know how someone's fate will turn out that young in many cases which is why making such a choice without holy intervention is not a good idea and likely a grave sin and murder.

Anyways regardless, I agree that every other pagan religion you mentioned is evil aswell and likely created by The Devil, I would just lump Islam in there too, and frankly there's more reason to do so, a good argument is a good argument.

If a gnostic made a good argument I would be gnostic, if a Muslim or Buddhist did, or Sikh or Hindu, I would be those things, or some Nordic pagan.

If you believe God is evil in The Old Testament that's not an argument for Islam, that's an argument for Gnosticism, which is also Satanic anyways.
I'm convinced if jesus said he likes gay sex(wait a minute HE DID AS HE WAS TEMPTED IN EVERY WAY CHRISTIANS ARE LOL) you would still follow him lol christianity is a mental disease,almost jinnic or shaitanic in it's hold on the hearts of it's adherents.
 
woah,You're willing to defend a child sacrificer just to defend some social club?

Jehovah sacrificed children himself.he also says in the plain wording of the prophets that these children of the babylonians are to be killed FOR THE SIN of their fathers,I mean it's right their in the text.that's unjust.

Your God also deceived people so they wouldn't 'turn and be forgiven'.
I am not a part of a club. If your people have shown an inclination towards evil for over 300 years, and I mean GENUINE evil, given many chances during said time to change, and you as a people, continue to do genuine horrific activity, GENUINE Child sacrifice and Child rape for pleasure, bestiality, incest, etc, and God comes along and says yunno what, nah it's over for you guys, you need to be wiped out, then YES that is completely justified, and not only would be justified for God to do that, it would be justified for US to do that if we're able to recognize the patterns, but most people CANNOT because as I said, we are not God.

Intentions are what make something a sin, not an action, that's why there is a distinction between killing and murder in The Bible.

Some Jew torturing and raping a child to death for sadistic pleasure is not the same as wiping out a nation of wicked evildoers and sparing the young from eternal damnation, there should be no pleasure in killing an innocent life, even in cases where it's the right thing to do.

If you cannot understand this then yes you are being genuinely obtuse.
I'm convinced if jesus said he likes gay sex(wait a minute HE DID AS HE WAS TEMPTED IN EVERY WAY CHRISTIANS ARE LOL) you would still follow him lol christianity is a mental disease,almost jinnic or shaitanic in it's hold on the hearts of it's adherents.
I don't know about Jesus being tempted with gay sex but I do know Muhammad the so-called "prophet" was raped and defiled by either at worst a bunch of Jinn/Demons or at best literally a bunch of Black BBC's I don't remember anything like that in The Bible, and denying this Hadith ain't a good look either considering The Author, i'll tell you that
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The majority of Hadiths from Ahmad ibn Hanbal/Musnad Imam Ahmad are considered Authentic, wanna guess which one this is?

Or is this disrespectful to bring up? Lol.
 
I am not a part of a club. If your people have shown an inclination towards evil for over 300 years, and I mean GENUINE evil, given many chances during said time to change, and you as a people, continue to do genuine horrific activity, GENUINE Child sacrifice and Child rape for pleasure, bestiality, incest, etc, and God comes along and says yunno what, nah it's over for you guys, you need to be wiped out, then YES that is completely justified, and not only would be justified for God to do that, it would be justified for US to do that if we're able to recognize the patterns, but most people CANNOT because as I said, we are not God.

Intentions are what make something a sin, not an action, that's why there is a distinction between killing and murder in The Bible.

Some Jew torturing and raping a child to death for sadistic pleasure is not the same as wiping out a nation of wicked evildoers and sparing the young from eternal damnation, there should be no pleasure in killing an innocent life, even in cases where it's the right thing to do.

If you cannot understand this then yes you are being genuinely obtuse.

I don't know about Jesus being tempted with gay sex but I do know Muhammad the so-called "prophet" was raped and defiled by either at worst a bunch of Jinn/Demons or at best literally a bunch of Black BBC's I don't remember anything like that in The Bible, and denying this Hadith ain't a good look either considering The Author, i'll tell you thatView attachment 3489667
The majority of Hadiths from Ahmad ibn Hanbal/Musnad Imam Ahmad are considered Authentic, wanna guess which one this is?

Or is this disrespectful to bring up? Lol.
you're ignoring everything I said in a emotional rant.your bible is clearly evil ....why don't you take a look at the thread.

I don't care about hadeeths,only the quran.Hadeeths are useful for things like prayer but I am 80% quranist. but even al albani said bukhari is not all authentic and ahadeeth have to be looked at individually,hence ilm ul hadeeth.

your GOD SACRIFICED KIDS


 
Me when I bribe my god with good deeds
 
Me when I bribe my god with good deeds
ASV
He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the righteous, Both of them alike are an abomination to Jehovah.
 
you're ignoring everything I said in a emotional rant.your bible is clearly evil ....why don't you take a look at the thread.

I don't care about hadeeths,only the quran.Hadeeths are useful for things like prayer but I am 80% quranist. but even al albani said bukhari is not all authentic and ahadeeth have to be looked at individually,hence ilm ul hadeeth.

your GOD SACRIFICED KIDS


Translation=I don’t believe the only source of historical evidence of my religion
 
Translation=I don’t believe the only source of historical evidence of my religion
translation:I'm butthurt our collective deceptive(like christ)tactics aren't working on you
 
ASV
He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the righteous, Both of them alike are an abomination to Jehovah.
What do you believe you achieved with this, anything you come up with to use against Christianity has already been debunked by the holy see
 
What do you believe you achieved with this, anything you come up with to use against Christianity has already been debunked by the holy see
lol a catholic
 
I am not a part of a club. If your people have shown an inclination towards evil for over 300 years, and I mean GENUINE evil, given many chances during said time to change, and you as a people, continue to do genuine horrific activity, GENUINE Child sacrifice and Child rape for pleasure, bestiality, incest, etc, and God comes along and says yunno what, nah it's over for you guys, you need to be wiped out, then YES that is completely justified, and not only would be justified for God to do that, it would be justified for US to do that if we're able to recognize the patterns, but most people CANNOT because as I said, we are not God.

Intentions are what make something a sin, not an action, that's why there is a distinction between killing and murder in The Bible.

Some Jew torturing and raping a child to death for sadistic pleasure is not the same as wiping out a nation of wicked evildoers and sparing the young from eternal damnation, there should be no pleasure in killing an innocent life, even in cases where it's the right thing to do.

If you cannot understand this then yes you are being genuinely obtuse.

I don't know about Jesus being tempted with gay sex but I do know Muhammad the so-called "prophet" was raped and defiled by either at worst a bunch of Jinn/Demons or at best literally a bunch of Black BBC's I don't remember anything like that in The Bible, and denying this Hadith ain't a good look either considering The Author, i'll tell you thatView attachment 3489667
The majority of Hadiths from Ahmad ibn Hanbal/Musnad Imam Ahmad are considered Authentic, wanna guess which one this is?

Or is this disrespectful to bring up? Lol.
yes,intentions define sins.

being tempted means to desire what you're being tempted with

for example

you can try to tempt me to give 1/3 of my weekly paycheck to feeding animals

I would be tempted by that


you can try to tempt me to kill innocent animals for fun,but i will NEVER be tempted by this

jesus was tempted by the devil for 40 nights and also tempted in every way we are so yes he did desire gay sex
 
you're ignoring everything I said in a emotional rant.your bible is clearly evil ....why don't you take a look at the thread.

I don't care about hadeeths,only the quran.Hadeeths are useful for things like prayer but I am 80% quranist. but even al albani said bukhari is not all authentic and ahadeeth have to be looked at individually,hence ilm ul hadeeth.

your GOD SACRIFICED KIDS


I'm not being emotional, if I was being emotional I would be illogically upset and ignoring any context of why killing children could be justified because from an emotional standpoint without any context or logic then of course I would be irrationally upset at children being killed.

Being a Quranist only doesn't Islam at all because where in The Quran does it say The Bible is corrupt for example?

If you say you that's where the 20% comes in, why only 20%? Why would you throw away the majority of authentic hadith and sunnah?

If I followed The Quran only which tells me to go to the scriptures that came before, which are Gospel and Torah, and both The Gospel and Torah, which we have found authentic records of with the dead sea scrolls, and of course scriptures written long before 600AD, both seem to tell us about a Trinity, with The Old Testament telling us of God on Earth communicating with God in heaven, and The New Testament blatantly warning of both false prophets and even beings claiming to be angels giving false testimony and being antichrists, why would I follow The Quran when it is completely contradicted by The Scriptures that came before that existed both during and prior to Muhammad's life?

Ah but maybe The Bible is evil, I mean it does outlaw adoption, oh no wait that's Islam that does that, hmm, well I mean God in The Bible has many names like The Arrogant, The Distresser, The Humiliator, The Deceiver, The Mischief Maker....oh no wait, those are some of the names of Allah, I mean well God blatantly lied to the world for over 600 years by faking the death and crucifixion of Jesus Christ, and hundreds upon hundreds of eye witnesses even died for this and claimed to see him rise from dead after his death....oh no wait, it was Allah who just made it seem to be this way, and Jesus never actually died they just saw the Jesus who never died and the one on the cross was just a fake Jesus allah put there, ohhh of course, that makes sense and totally isn't deceitful, well maybe it's when The Bible said a prophet is one who inflicts a massacre on Earth and has captives/slaves? Oh no wait again...that's Islam again...hmmm, taxing Muslims and Jews who don't convert to Christianity while treating them poorly in their own country maybe? Oh wait....Islam again.

Anyways, again anytime you try and claim that God did any attrocities in The Old Testament, you realize "Allah" claims to be that God right so you're calling your own God evil.
 
I'm not being emotional, if I was being emotional I would be illogically upset and ignoring any context of why killing children could be justified because from an emotional standpoint without any context or logic then of course I would be irrationally upset at children being killed.
You are,you're denying the reason given in the text and coming up with a totally other unjust reason(he could just send a prophet to the people lol padmasambhava was a satanist and converted tibetans that did much worse things with false miracles given by iblis for example)and my other examples of jehovah's evil.
Being a Quranist only doesn't Islam at all because where in The Quran does it say The Bible is corrupt for example?

If you say you that's where the 20% comes in, why only 20%? Why would you throw away the majority of authentic hadith and sunnah?

for minor details like what do to in namaz etc same for the bible https://www.call-to-monotheism.com/the_incompleteness_and_incoherence_of_the_bible
If I followed The Quran only which tells me to go to the scriptures that came before, which are Gospel and Torah, and both The Gospel and Torah, which we have found authentic records of with the dead sea scrolls, and of course scriptures written long before 600AD, both seem to tell us about a Trinity, with The Old Testament telling us of God on Earth communicating with God in heaven, and The New Testament blatantly warning of both false prophets and even beings claiming to be angels giving false testimony and being antichrists, why would I follow The Quran when it is completely contradicted by The Scriptures that came before that existed both during and prior to Muhammad's life?

of the arabian peninsula.the christians of najran and the jews of hijaz had the correct torah.
Ah but maybe The Bible is evil, I mean it does outlaw adoption, oh no wait that's Islam that does that, hmm, well I mean God in The Bible has many names like The Arrogant, The Distresser, The Humiliator, The Deceiver, The Mischief Maker....oh no wait, those are some of the names of Allah, I mean well God blatantly lied to the world for over 600 years by faking the death and crucifixion of Jesus Christ, and hundreds upon hundreds of eye witnesses even died for this and claimed to see him rise from dead after his death....oh no wait, it was Allah who just made it seem to be this way, and Jesus never actually died they just saw the Jesus who never died and the one on the cross was just a fake Jesus allah put there, ohhh of course, that makes sense and totally isn't deceitful, well maybe it's when The Bible said a prophet is one who inflicts a massacre on Earth and has captives/slaves? Oh no wait again...that's Islam again...hmmm, taxing Muslims and Jews who don't convert to Christianity while treating them poorly in their own country maybe? Oh wait....Islam again.

Anyways, again anytime you try and claim that God did any attrocities in The Old Testament, you realize "Allah" claims to be that God right so you're calling your own God evil.
now you're being very deceptive,don't you know I've argued like you for years ?
 
You are,you're denying the reason given in the text and coming up with a totally other unjust reason(he could just send a prophet to the people lol padmasambhava was a satanist and converted tibetans that did much worse things with false miracles given by iblis for example)and my other examples of jehovah's evil.
If you think people's hearts can't hardened naturally by sin, or statistically some people aren't inclined towards certain actions to an extreme degree especially after hundreds of years then you are ignorant of human nature. As for sending a prophet, it wouldn't matter if God himself was there, you really don't realize the arrogance and pride of humanity that exists at the worst levels.

The worst people in the world already know and believe in God, my God of course, not Lucifer larping as "Allah" after he pretended to Zeus and Ba'al for awhile, they know they are going to hell and do not care, because they trust in Lucifer to give them power and comfort in this world as they help him destroy humanity.

Do you honestly think if there are people and even groups like this that exist now, there weren't civilizations who were blatantly satanic back then aswell who knew and blatantly followed Satan? Some groups of humanity have been chosen by him explicitly aswell, and through micro-evolution and selective breeding, inclination towards evil behavior gets more and more likely. Bloodlines are important for a reason, which is why The Bible warns against racemixing and mongrelization unlike Islam which was clearly just a tool used to mongrelize the middle east, north africa, and bits of southern europe, since Lucifer knows subhuman mutts are much easier to control, trick, and used as canon fodder by his chosen people.
of the arabian peninsula.the christians of najran and the jews of hijaz had the correct torah.
If you think what the Christians and Jews had at the time of Muhammad aligned with The Quran you are delusional.
now you're being very deceptive,don't you know I've argued like you for years ?
I'm really not though, and saying it's deceptive doesn't address any of the points either, if anything it seems to concede them.
 
Did not watch but mashallah
 

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