Thoughts on Proviron

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I’m 17 5’7 125 but I’m genuinely in tanner stage 3 so I’m just a late bloomer.
I’ve been thinking about taking Proviron for a deeper voice and bigger dih.
I wouldn’t be pinning test tho.
Even tho it isn’t close to pinning, I’m taking supplements like vitamin d, magnesium, and zinc.
I’m also probably going to start taking Enclomiphene.
Is it fine to take Proviron while not running test since Proviron isn’t very suppressive.
 
Not how it works. Proviron is shockingly terrible and should be avoided by all means necessary: there is not one single reason to intake it.
 
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thanks, and yeah i just read about what it does, sounds like a bunch of bs

what's something that boosts testosterone without shutting it down, that isn't shitty like proviron?
You can experiment very lightly with hCG, I guess, but why not just take test? You will recover totally fine using hCG. The pituitary kick starts itself back very quickly.
 
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You can experiment very lightly with hCG, I guess, but why not just take test? You will recover totally fine using hCG. The pituitary kick starts itself back very quickly.
Well im young, im only 15 lmao. That's probably why I won't take actual test, since I don't want it to shut down.

I'll look into hcg though, thanks
 
Well im young, im only 15 lmao. That's probably why I won't take actual test, since I don't want it to shut down.

I'll look into hcg though, thanks
Will shut down temporarily and that's if you refuse to take hCG. Just like when you eat food and you're temporarily full until your body wants food. You don't refuse to eat because of that, however.
 
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Will shut down temporarily and that's if you refuse to take hCG. Just like when you eat food and you're temporarily full until your body wants food. You don't refuse to eat because of that, however.
So if i just take hcg, my natural production won't shut down? That sounds pretty good to me then. Any side effects? Like the ones you'd get on test, like lots of acne etc.?
 
So if i just take hcg, my natural production won't shut down? That sounds pretty good to me then. Any side effects? Like the ones you'd get on test, like lots of acne etc.?
You should probably search "what does hCG do?", son. You won't get acne on test if you use iso- or basic tretinoin, or any powerful, low-converting retinoid for that matter.
 
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Isn’t it a dht derivative? Why wouldn’t that do what I said
Your voice doesn’t just change because you injected shit in your body. It’s a genetic phenomenon. You’re 17 and your cock isn’t growing anymore. You need to stay far away from DHT.
 
Your voice doesn’t just change because you injected shit in your body. It’s a genetic phenomenon. You’re 17 and your cock isn’t growing anymore. You need to stay far away from DHT.
1. It’s not an injection
2. Dht does change your voice
3. Like I said, I’m 17 but I’m in tanner stage 3 so all of my development is not equal to my age
4.. My shlong is def still growing
 
1. It’s not an injection
2. Dht does change your voice
3. Like I said, I’m 17 but I’m in tanner stage 3 so all of my development is not equal to my age
4.. My shlong is def still growing
I’m not saying it’s an injection; it’s a broad statement. Your voice is genetic and isn’t determined by DHT to begin with. Do you even know how sound is transmitted? You have a fundamental frequency that’s dictated by your anatomy. In fact, proviron will fuse your growth plates earlier and it will suppress LH/FSH nonetheless.

Did you ask this question for knowledge or to be comforted on your bullshit idea?
 
I’m not saying it’s an injection; it’s a broad statement. Your voice is genetic and isn’t determined by DHT to begin with. Do you even know how sound is transmitted? You have a fundamental frequency that’s dictated by your anatomy. In fact, proviron will fuse your growth plates earlier and it will suppress LH/FSH nonetheless.

Did you ask this question for knowledge or to be comforted on your bullshit idea?
No I’m genuinely trying to learn
Everything you’re saying I’m taking into account and I appreciate what you’re saying
I did some more research while you were responding and I learned that dht DOES affect voice, but only when it is local affecting your voice and your dih when it’s around there. So Proviron probably wouldn’t do much
Also how would Proviron close growth plates?
 
No I’m genuinely trying to learn
Everything you’re saying I’m taking into account and I appreciate what you’re saying
I did some more research while you were responding and I learned that dht DOES affect voice, but only when it is local affecting your voice and your dih when it’s around there. So Proviron probably wouldn’t do much
Also how would Proviron close growth plates?
Okay. I will tell you very simply, son. I highly doubt you’re tanner 3 to begin with, but even if so, T -> E2 is the main driver. Aromatisation remodels the larynx and vocal folds. DHT has pretty much no comparative effect; they just have to say it has “some” for the sake of biology. That doesn’t mean it’s comparable to aromatisation.

Proviron suppresses LH/FSH so your T and E2 fails. Growth plate closure is oestrogen-driven but androgens still accelerate skeletal maturation so by suppressing the axis, you derail the timing of growth spurts.

You can’t selectively bathe a larynx in DHT with some shitty oral DHT-derivative. You aren’t cheating your way out of your natural development.
 
Okay. I will tell you very simply, son. I highly doubt you’re tanner 3 to begin with, but even if so, T -> E2 is the main driver. Aromatisation remodels the larynx and vocal folds. DHT has pretty much no comparative effect; they just have to say it has “some” for the sake of biology. That doesn’t mean it’s comparable to aromatisation.

Proviron suppresses LH/FSH so your T and E2 fails. Growth plate closure is oestrogen-driven but androgens still accelerate skeletal maturation so by suppressing the axis, you derail the timing of growth spurts.

You can’t selectively bathe a larynx in DHT with some shitty oral DHT-derivative. You aren’t cheating your way out of your natural development.
Makes sense
I’m still gonna do some more research but most of the stuff I’m seeing aligns with what you’re saying so I don’t doubt u at all.
I’d also like to hear your thoughts on things like mk677 and enclomiphene and if you think they’re beneficial or not
 
Makes sense
I’m still gonna do some more research but most of the stuff I’m seeing aligns with what you’re saying so I don’t doubt u at all.
I’d also like to hear your thoughts on things like mk677 and enclomiphene and if you think they’re beneficial or not
Stay away from MK677 and enclo. Both disgusting.
 
Because there is not one benefit to them. If you believe there is, tell me and I’ll explain why it’s pseudo-rubbish. Unless you want to be a hungry rabbit gobbling all the biscuits, don’t take MK.
 
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Because there is not one benefit to them. If you believe there is, tell me and I’ll explain why it’s pseudo-rubbish. Unless you want to be a hungry rabbit gobbling all the biscuits, don’t take MK.
Mk is lowkey a feederism cheat code, might start selling a course on how to fatten up your partner quickly.
 
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Because there is not one benefit to them. If you believe there is, tell me and I’ll explain why it’s pseudo-rubbish. Unless you want to be a hungry rabbit gobbling all the biscuits, don’t take MK.
I mean the things that I’ve heard is
Enclomiphene raises total testosterone levels
Mk677 mimics ghrelin which causes gh to be secreted
 
I mean the things that I’ve heard is
Enclomiphene raises total testosterone levels
Mk677 mimics ghrelin which causes gh to be secreted
MK will make you eat the whole cupboard for shitty GH results all whilst you’re a bloated fish with terrible insulin. Enclo lowers IGF-1 and will fuck up your growth. Both dogshit.
 
MK will make you eat the whole cupboard for shitty GH results all whilst you’re a bloated fish with terrible insulin. Enclo lowers IGF-1 and will fuck up your growth. Both dogshit.
IMG 2090
Also, I did mk for 60 days and I wasn’t bloated or if I was ig I might have already been bloated before I started
And wdym bad gh results? Isn’t it the best gh option without injecting?
 
I’m not saying it’s an injection; it’s a broad statement. Your voice is genetic and isn’t determined by DHT to begin with. Do you even know how sound is transmitted? You have a fundamental frequency that’s dictated by your anatomy. In fact, proviron will fuse your growth plates earlier and it will suppress LH/FSH nonetheless.

Did you ask this question for knowledge or to be comforted on your bullshit idea?
Test with aromasin is safe for height to not shut down?
 

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