TIKTOK FRAUDMAXXERS JESTER PATEL AND JORDAN MORNINGWOOD DEBUNKED *RARE GOOD THREAD FROM r/ORTHOTROPICS*

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TLDR in the bottom.

I have been seeing this trend more and more frequently and it is frankly not settling well with me.
Popular lookmaxxers are abusing angle and head turn to fraud their transformations wich misleads many people.
I will try to keep this brief and simple to understand. I do not claim them to have achieved no change, but it is obviously not as much as they claim. The changes are minimal and it is predominantly masseter hypertrophy and fat loss/mass gain.
Head turn and tilt frauding - the act of turning your head either away, toward the camera; or tilting up, or down to give the impression of "forward growth."

Two of the most popular looksmaxxers, to include Oscar Patel, and Jordan Wood (and more) use this either ignorantly or purposefully, misleading people into a "course" or to be labeled as having a great transformation.

I will educate on how to find out if this type of frauding is used so you don't fall for it.

-nose bridge, lips, and external ear changes-

The nose bridge and lips will appear more visible (sometimes, the opposite eyebrow will show) when the face is turned toward the camera. This is commonly used in after photos post-transformation.
The nose bridge and lips will appear less visible when the face is turned away from the camera. This is commonly used in before photos pre-transformation.
The external ear will appear different, as if it was rotated (literally), and will not match identically between photos.
The ear will be noticeably tilted upward in head tilt frauding.
This gives the illusion of more forward "growth" being achieved.

**examples**

Blue circle - More nose bridge is visible, opposite eyebrow is more visible (with exceptions (head turn was not too drastic))
Yellow circle - more visible lips.
Red circle - external ear changes

--Oscar Patel:--
r/orthotropics - WATCH OUT FOR LOOKSMAXXING TRANSFORMATION FRAUDING: Debunking Jordan Wood Pt2... and Oscar Patel
Also, I have yet to see a transformation of one of his members that does not do this as well. Literally look at all of his members' transformations. This is one of them:
r/orthotropics - WATCH OUT FOR LOOKSMAXXING TRANSFORMATION FRAUDING: Debunking Jordan Wood Pt2... and Oscar Patel
Brutal.
--Jordan Wood (here we go again):--
I was surprised he responded to my video bait. I won't play nice this time :)
Jordan Wood is VERY adept when it comes to his frauding, which shows he puts thought and effort into meticulously creating and planning a great transformation (fraud) post.
This is one of the instances:
r/orthotropics - WATCH OUT FOR LOOKSMAXXING TRANSFORMATION FRAUDING: Debunking Jordan Wood Pt2... and Oscar Patel
Here is one of his most popular videos:
Here are the circles:
r/orthotropics - WATCH OUT FOR LOOKSMAXXING TRANSFORMATION FRAUDING: Debunking Jordan Wood Pt2... and Oscar Patel
He claims there is no head turn, but he can't say his dorsal hump disappeared and upload videos of his dorsal hump still there after. There is a head turn in this comparison. Trying to hide it makes the external ear angle change notably, per red circles. Also no amount of thumb pulling or zygo pulling or whatever can make a whole dorsal hump dissappear in a year especially if you achieved no true maxillary growth. There is no biological or scientific explanation for that, since lefort 1 Can berely cause changes in dorsal hump (you should know this).

Claim:
r/orthotropics - WATCH OUT FOR LOOKSMAXXING TRANSFORMATION FRAUDING: Debunking Jordan Wood Pt2... and Oscar Patel
Future video:
r/orthotropics - WATCH OUT FOR LOOKSMAXXING TRANSFORMATION FRAUDING: Debunking Jordan Wood Pt2... and Oscar Patel
He also cuts his ears out of frame in a few videos (like the image above), so I used the same images in other videos he posted that do show the ear and put them together.
r/orthotropics - WATCH OUT FOR LOOKSMAXXING TRANSFORMATION FRAUDING: Debunking Jordan Wood Pt2... and Oscar Patel
Obvious head tilt.
And when he does align the ears, head turn frauding is visible.
r/orthotropics - WATCH OUT FOR LOOKSMAXXING TRANSFORMATION FRAUDING: Debunking Jordan Wood Pt2... and Oscar Patel
Jordan shows in his videos how much "forward growth" or "remodeling" or whatever you may call it he achieved in his opacity comparisons, which is scientifically impossible even with destructive methods causing extreme deformations.
r/orthotropics - WATCH OUT FOR LOOKSMAXXING TRANSFORMATION FRAUDING: Debunking Jordan Wood Pt2... and Oscar Patel
Jordan claims to do “research” on craniology and bone biology, but it doesn't show because anyone with even basic knowledge of the science understands that this is not possible. Knowing a bunch of jargon doesn't mean you understand the science. Jordan if you are reading this, respectully, cut that out and show scientifically accurate comparisons for once. I'm sure you had changes, but going to these lengths is low.

It is pretty hypocritical on your part that you Do what you expose other people like Baby Shitley of doing, for example, which was a very good 3 part series, but come on.

This concludes my rant :)
TLDR: headtilt and headturn frauding is visible by looking at the nose bridge, lips, and ears.
 
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Very concise and informative thread
 
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mirin the effort
 
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good thread we all know this. fuck tiktok looksmaxers they’re all a bunch of clones trying to sell shit flexing their fat or underweight to weight gain or weight loss + puberty transformations. they’re worse than the redpill gym 12 year olds
 
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GOATED thread
 
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good thread we all know this. fuck tiktok looksmaxers they’re all a bunch of clones trying to sell shit flexing their fat or underweight to weight gain or weight loss + puberty transformations. they’re worse than the redpill gym 12 year olds
The false hope is evil for sure and the useless facial exercises they sell in their $50 chatgpt generated "courses"
 
The false hope is evil for sure and the useless facial exercises they sell in their $50 chatgpt generated "courses"
hamza is the worst. he’s literally a millionaire from this shit btw
 
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Did anyone really thought they mog or something??

Oscar patel is literally a sub5
 

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