to all the copers using hgh for "facial masculinity"

[WadlowMaxxing]

you're not going to get a masculine face with higher HGH/IGF-1 levels

females have very similar igf-1 levels to men and yet don't have the same facial changes.

but what about acromegaly patients?

expectation:

Spoiler: reality:

so, for the looksmaxxing advice. optimize androgen levels during puberty and thank me when you're 25

still don't believe androgens will make you more masculine? look at this "female" bodybuilder


also google transgender HRT patients


now stop coping with growth hormone for a masculine face

 

[St. Wristcel]

Literally inject t retards hgh is for frame height and maybe brow ridge

 

[sandcelmuttcel]

@ItisOver thoughts?

 

[Deleted member 11131]

IGF-1 is great for cancermaxxing

 

[sandcelmuttcel]

why females aren't as tall as men then?

 

[Deleted member 11406]

Face is gonna become masculine anyway if you have the genetic for that

 

[Deleted member 3043]

Based IQ

 

[Deleted member 10987]

How do i optimize androgen ?

 

[St. Wristcel]

why females aren't as tall as men then?

Growth plates close earlier due to estrogen

 

[sandcelmuttcel]

is there any hope for a 20 year old who fucked up during puberty due to shit diet, low bmi?

 

[St. Wristcel]

is there any hope for a 20 year old who fucked up during puberty due to shit diet, low bmi?

for facial masculinity somewhat maybe even a yes
height no

 

[WadlowMaxxing]

why females aren't as tall as men then?

there's more than just IGF-1/HGH to bone growth, women are shorter due to estrogen. or maybe they just don't have a growth mindset

How do i optimize androgen ?

I'm sure there's some guide on it. inject T, consume plenty of dietary cholesterol, take a precursor hormone. I don't reccomend anything specifically, especially not to kids

is there any hope for a 20 year old who fucked up during puberty due to shit diet, low bmi?

you're not fully-fully developed until 25. just pray to epigenetics that you make some progress. worst case scenario you're healthy

 

[sandcelmuttcel]

there's more than just IGF-1/HGH to bone growth, women are shorter due to estrogen. or maybe they just don't have a growth mindset

I'm sure there's some guide on it. inject T, consume plenty of dietary cholesterol, take a precursor hormone. I don't reccomend anything specifically, especially not to kids

you're not fully-fully developed until 25. just pray to epigenetics that you make some progress. worst case scenario you're healthy

can you give me a quick explanation of epigenetics?

 

[Deleted member 10491]

and maybe brow ridge

cjc dac for mogger masculine face confirmed

 

[WadlowMaxxing]

can you give me a quick explanation of epigenetics?

just Google it
"Epigenetics is the study of heritable changes in gene expression (active versus inactive genes) that do not involve changes to the underlying DNA sequence — a change in phenotype without a change in genotype — which in turn affects how cells read the genes".
it's basically just enviroment

 

[PrisonBreakFan08]

Broo I was wondering why nobody mentioned horomone replacement therapy, I was gonna make a thread on it

 

[Deleted member 6892]

@ItisOver thoughts?

He’s right

 

[JustBeCurry]

bro who the fuck said it did??

 

[sandcelmuttcel]

Literally inject t retards hgh is for frame height and maybe brow ridge

and lower jaw too

 

[magnificentcel]

So how to optimize androgens during puberty ?

 

[Dainslief]

So how to optimize androgens during puberty ?

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[WadlowMaxxing]

@WannaBeGigachad I made a thread on this

 

[Deleted member 10491]

@WannaBeGigachad I made a thread on this

ok so how do you optimize androgen levels

 

[WadlowMaxxing]

ok so how do you optimize androgen levels

scroll up

 

[Deleted member 10491]

scroll up

"I'm sure there's some guide on it. inject T, consume plenty of dietary cholesterol, take a precursor hormone. I don't reccomend anything specifically, especially not to kids"

when are u planning to inject T

 

[WadlowMaxxing]

"I'm sure there's some guide on it. inject T, consume plenty of dietary cholesterol, take a precursor hormone. I don't reccomend anything specifically, especially not to kids"

when are u planning to inject T

never injecting t lol. I just said it's something that could be done to optimize androgen levels. I do take something for thyroid

 

[Deleted member 10491]

never injecting t lol. I just said it's something that could be done to optimize androgen levels. I do take something for thyroid

should i start consuming whale semen? can i add something to my stack to make me more masculine and less of a 12 yr old

 

[Deleted member 9090]

never injecting t lol. I just said it's something that could be done to optimize androgen levels. I do take something for thyroid

What do you take my bro?

 

[WadlowMaxxing]

What do you take my bro?

liothryinine/t3. 5mg or so daily

 

[Deleted member 6128]

Literally common knowledge do people really not know this?

 

[WadlowMaxxing]

Literally common knowledge do people really not know this?

not from what I see

 

[magnificentcel]

“Take a precursor hormone”
Such as

 

[Deleted member 3990]

there's more than just IGF-1/HGH to bone growth

Maybe, but despite making up a small fraction, 2 of the growth excess deformities are based on the IGF/GH Axis (Gigantism and Acromegaly)

 

[WadlowMaxxing]

Maybe, but despite making up a small fraction, 2 of the growth excess deformities are based on the IGF/GH Axis (Gigantism and Acromegaly)

that's true. but aromatase deficiency has shown to cause taller stature and linear growth into adulthood. castratis were prevented to go through puberty at a young age. and from the lack of testosterone(and therefore estrogen) ended up with taller stature

 

[Deleted member 2157]

Bad examples. Andre was just fat and has massive bones under that like all acromegalics. See Nikolai Valuev too. Testosterone inherently increases HGH btw.

 

[bimaximum]

Is HGH based for bone's girth tho ?
Bones of the body not face.

 

[WadlowMaxxing]

Is HGH based for bone's girth tho ?
Bones of the body not face.

you mean like wrist size? there are a lot of hormones for bone width but HGH seems to be the most important. there are countless examples of this.

Bad examples. Andre was just fat and has massive bones under that like all acromegalics. See Nikolai Valuev too. Testosterone inherently increases HGH btw.

yes, "massive bones". as in a deformed hideous skull. he had gigantism from a young age, and had much more HGH than what anyone's getting from 5IUs of chinese man cum in their late teens to early twenties. even if you succeed in growing you skull, it's still not very "masculine"

 

[bimaximum]

you mean like wrist size? there are a lot of hormones for bone width but HGH seems to be the most important. there are countless examples of this.

Well, it works in theory but I'm steel asking for well documented results. Every GH transformation is only loss of fat and more muscle mass.

 

[WadlowMaxxing]

Well, it works in theory but I'm steel asking for well documented results. Every GH transformation is only loss of fat and more muscle mass.

a lot of people have had some bone girth growth from GH. ask @Bronze8 obviously most people won't see significant bone growth because they're not using this stuff at a young age

 

[Deleted member 2157]

yes, "massive bones". as in a deformed hideous skull. he had gigantism from a young age, and had much more HGH than what anyone's getting from 5IUs of chinese man cum in their late teens to early twenties. even if you succeed in growing you skull, it's still not very "masculine"

Well it's literally the result of having all bones grown, that is what acromegaly does and males are inherently more acromegalic than females. Males have longer clavicles, larger hands/feet than females and acromegaloids have the longest clavicles and largest hands/feet of anyone. Acromegalic men can be good looking like Ted Cassidy who you posted too. but yeah acromegaloids have higher HGH than anyone injecting chinese rat piss obviously

 

[Soalian]

I used Alibaba HGH, from unknown origin, what do I do now?