To be out of ANY woman's "league" you have to be either a 5+ or a celebrity

[TalesFromTheSlums]

As the title states, to be out of ANY woman on Earth's league lookswise, you must be 5 or so.

This is LOOKS only. To be out of a woman's league with looks -- even the ugliest -- you gotta be 5+. This means factoring the worst examples of women, you STILL need 5+ face/looks.

No exceptions. When status isn't factored, even a 0/10 woman needs at least a ~5/10 guy minimum. This is why it often takes Chadlites to pull low-ass Beckies, as there's an SMV gap.

HTNs with LOOKS ONLY probably are in league with maybe Berthas/whales/sub LTB looks.

HTN don't really have any real "advantage" in dating yet ... They just match landwhale SMV.

There're "types" & all & yes status/fame/etc. can skew looks requirements, but in general...

If you rely only on looks -> must be 5/10 minimum on the SMV scale ... NOTHING less counts. 4s are still below league-wise with even deformed, monstrous looking women.

If you rely on status, being a regional/local celebrity negates the need for looks SLIGHTLY. This means you'd not need to be Chad to have some sort of aura advantage.

Being a world-class famous celebrity even further, often by a margin of up to 2 solid points. This is why you can see ugly ahh rappers still able to have sex fairly easily.

But when you're a normal dude and looks are pretty much everything for the tingle ... 5/10+. And the kinds of women's league you'd be out of at around a 5 would be ... low.

 

[HostSamurai]

Dihydrogen Monoxide.

 

[ricecel102]

As the title states, to be out of ANY woman on Earth's league lookswise, you must be 5 or so.

This is LOOKS only. To be out of a woman's league with looks -- even the ugliest -- you gotta be 5+.

No exceptions. When status isn't favored, even a 0/10 woman needs at least a 5/10 guy minimum.

There're "types" & all, and yes status/celeb fame/etc. can skew looks requirements, but in general...

If you rely only on looks -> must be 5/10 minimum on the SMV scale ... NOTHING less counts.

If you rely on status, being a regional/local celebrity negates the need for looks SLIGHTLY. This means you'd not need to be Chad to have some sort of aura advantage.

Being a world-class famous celebrity even further, often by a margin of up to 2 solid points. This is why you can see ugly ahh rappers still able to have sex fairly easily.

But when you're a normal dude and looks are pretty much everything for the tingle ... 5/10+. And the kinds of women's league you'd be out of at around a 5 would ... low.

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[Yliaster]

I'd probably say around 7 is where women will often see yous as out of their league

5-6 they mostly just see you as cute/attractive

 

[TalesFromTheSlums]

I'd probably say around 7 is where women will often see yous as out of their league

5-6 they mostly just see you as cute/attractive

Depends on where the woman is standing (looks/mental/status-wise), as I already explained.

If you consider the ugliest/lowest women imaginable, some 5+ can be "Chad" to them in some way.

If you're talking about big ego Beckies, obviously 7+ applies or else they generally are unphased.

If you're talking of modest, low standards, LTB types then maybe HTN-Chadlite is showstopping, i..e, 6-7.

I think the general rule of thumb is women usually are attracted to men if they're at least one caliber above them.

For example, a 3 with a 5; a 5 with a 7; a 2 with a 4 -- in general. This isn't always an exact science, but approximate.

 

[Xangsane]

As the title states, to be out of ANY woman on Earth's league lookswise, you must be 5 or so.

This is LOOKS only. To be out of a woman's league with looks -- even the ugliest -- you gotta be 5+. This means factoring the worst examples of women, you STILL need 5+ face/looks.

No exceptions. When status isn't factored, even a 0/10 woman needs at least a ~5/10 guy minimum. This is why it often takes Chadlites to pull low-ass Beckies, as there's an SMV gap.

HTNs with LOOKS ONLY probably are in league with maybe Berthas/whales/sub LTB looks.

HTN don't really have any real "advantage" in dating yet ... They just match landwhale SMV.

There're "types" & all & yes status/fame/etc. can skew looks requirements, but in general...

If you rely only on looks -> must be 5/10 minimum on the SMV scale ... NOTHING less counts. 4s are still below league-wise with even deformed, monstrous looking women.

If you rely on status, being a regional/local celebrity negates the need for looks SLIGHTLY. This means you'd not need to be Chad to have some sort of aura advantage.

Being a world-class famous celebrity even further, often by a margin of up to 2 solid points. This is why you can see ugly ahh rappers still able to have sex fairly easily.

But when you're a normal dude and looks are pretty much everything for the tingle ... 5/10+. And the kinds of women's league you'd be out of at around a 5 would be ... low.

>Berthas