Too late for pct or no?

[PsychoDsk]

I wanna hop off gear once and for all
I been blasting for +- 8 months now, cruising on test and anadrol with the occasional harsher when I feel like it. Am I completely fucked or will a hard pct protocol still save my natty status?

I need answers
@Orc

 

[fraudmaxxer7]

why cant you fraud as natty? and whats pct protocal?

 

[Samiscool234]

Rope

 

[PsychoDsk]

why cant you fraud as natty? and whats pct protocal?

I mean idc if ppl know I’m on gear, I jist want my balls and dick working natty again
Post cycle therapy

 

[fraudmaxxer7]

I mean idc if ppl know I’m on gear, I jist want my balls and dick working natty again
Post cycle therapy

why are they not working as well now?

 

[MA_ascender]

dont do PCT, just taper down to abt 50mg test then quit, you WILL recover, maybe use HCG or HMG but not serms


you will most likely recover if u didnt use tren/npp/deca/19nors in general, just a question of tme

 

[PsychoDsk]

why are they not working as well now?

Cuz I’ve been running exogenous hormones for a while now

 

[PsychoDsk]

dont do PCT, just taper down to abt 50mg test then quit, you WILL recover, maybe use HCG or HMG but not serms


you will most likely recover if u didnt use tren/npp/deca/19nors in general, just a question of tme

Why’s that?
Why no serm? And how the hell could I recover with no pct?

 

[MA_ascender]

Why’s that?
Why no serm? And how the hell could I recover with no pct?

theres a study that showed SERMs as PCT literally hampered recovery, guys that quit cold turky no pct recovered T levels and fertility faster than those with serms

hcg is good if your balls shrunk a lot

 

[GeThinnerLookBetter]

dont do PCT, just taper down to abt 50mg test then quit, you WILL recover, maybe use HCG or HMG but not serms


you will most likely recover if u didnt use tren/npp/deca/19nors in general, just a question of tme

You probably will recover if you didn't use 19nors but why would you wanna feel like shit for a month and with lower test than baseline

 

[GeThinnerLookBetter]

I wanna hop off gear once and for all
I been blasting for +- 8 months now, cruising on test and anadrol with the occasional harsher when I feel like it. Am I completely fucked or will a hard pct protocol still save my natty status?

I need answers
@Orc

Theres been people that have been B&C for 5+ years and recovered their natural test production so you probably can just pick a good PCT

 

[appeal]

why deciding to stop out of curiosity?

 

[PsychoDsk]

why deciding to stop out of curiosity?

I have a gf now and I wanna quit all my bad habits for her

 

[appeal]

I have a gf now and I wanna quit all my bad habits for her

u consider test a bad habit?

does she know of the test?

 

[Acne Victim]

u consider test a bad habit?

does she know of the test?

are you like appealmaxxed as APEmaxxed was

@moredatesmorerapes

 

[GeThinnerLookBetter]

I have a gf now and I wanna quit all my bad habits for her

Worst reason to quit looksmaxxing

 

[PsychoDsk]

u consider test a bad habit?

does she know of the test?

I’m still on trt while she doesn’t know, I also quit drugs. Might just trt for the rest of my life, still not sure

Worst reason to quit looksmaxxing

I’m not quitting looksmaxxing, I don’t see point in having muscles anymore. I’m lean to the bone now and it mogs 10x more than when I was blasting full on drugs and roids.

 

[GeThinnerLookBetter]

I’m still on trt while she doesn’t know, I also quit drugs. Might just trt for the rest of my life, still not sure

No point in TRT if you don't plan on maxxing out your frame makes your balls shrink and infertile for no reason. Unless its to maintain current muscle mass just PCT.

I’m not quitting looksmaxxing, I don’t see point in having muscles anymore. I’m lean to the bone now and it mogs 10x more than when I was blasting full on drugs and roids.

Whats the point of being attractive if a ogre can beat your ass while grapin your gf, face> height> frame are all part of mogging you can't be deficient in one.

 

[PsychoDsk]

No point in TRT if you don't plan on maxxing out your frame makes your balls shrink and infertile for no reason. Unless its to maintain current muscle mass just PCT.

Whats the point of being attractive if a ogre can beat your ass while grapin your gf, face> height> frame are all part of mogging you can't be deficient in one.

I weigh 205 lean, I think no ogre would try in the first place. I’m just cruising trt rn until my hcg and clomid arrive

 

[appeal]

I don’t see point in having muscles anymore. I’m lean to the bone now and it mogs 10x more than when I was blasting full on drugs and roids.

u saying muscles cope? tbf i think that only face matters, and for that giga leanness is required not muscle

 

[PsychoDsk]

u saying muscles cope? tbf i think that only face matters, and for that giga leanness is required not muscle

Face matters most but I just make sure I don’t look like a twink. A tiny amount of muscle goes a long way in both composition and attraction.

 

[MA_ascender]

You probably will recover if you didn't use 19nors but why would you wanna feel like shit for a month and with lower test than baseline

PCT slows down recovery btw

 

[MA_ascender]

You probably will recover if you didn't use 19nors but why would you wanna feel like shit for a month and with lower test than baseline

you'll find it under HAARLEM study, there's some summaries on reddit.

Disruption and recovery of testicular function during and after androgen abuse: the HAARLEM study

AbstractSTUDY QUESTION. What is the speed and extent by which endogenous testosterone production and spermatogenesis recover after androgen abuse?SUMMARY A

academic.oup.com

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“We were unable to demonstrate any beneficial effect of medications referred to as PCT, therefore the use of these agents should be discouraged.”

PCT is gymbro pseudoscience that does nothing

 

[Nihonz9]

Bro what

dont do PCT, just taper down to abt 50mg test then quit, you WILL recover, maybe use HCG or HMG but not serms


you will most likely recover if u didnt use tren/npp/deca/19nors in general, just a question of tme

eliminating the competition

 

[MA_ascender]

Bro what

eliminating the competition

read the study instead of spewing gymcel pseudoscience

 

[Nihonz9]

read the study instead of spewing gymcel pseudoscience

I know I was joking, I read thru it

 

[butteryfingers]

Enclomiphene can help boost testosterone levels especially when they are far below normal, I think the guy saying “just wait and they will recover” is not giving the best advice because although they may recover, the amount of time you have been using steroids makes it so that recovering will take a very long time. If your test is crashed for 3-6 months then you are going to loose gains and feel like shit. Also how do you know you’re not shut down completely?

 

[GeThinnerLookBetter]

read the study instead of spewing gymcel pseudoscience

Turkcel

 

[PrinceofDarkness]

max squat bench deadlift?

 

[MA_ascender]

Turkcel

??

 

[GeThinnerLookBetter]

??

Econmicel