Total facial convexity angle

[MisterMercedes]

A useful way to evaluate side profile. It is the angle created by the relationship between the glabella, nose, and chin. Ideal angle in males is 141 degrees.

Examples:

This is a big determinant in how attractive one is, especially with regard to protruding features. When this angle is ideal, the nose, chin, and glabella will all look proportionate to each other, as opposed to one feature being protruding or weak.

 

[Guyinpeace2]

I'm 137 °, Fuck me

 

[MisterMercedes]

I'm 137 °, Fuck me

4 degrees of difference isn’t going to significantly hurt your side profile.

 

[thecel]

147º

Over

 

[ssiinnaannss]

for ideal side profile Except this angle , slope forehead , projection of nose and ramus and its angle (I think it should be 120)
is there other thing?

 

[N1c]

To lazy to messure

 

[Deleted member 756]

To lazy to messure

Your profile is decent from the pics you sent me Oleg

 

[anti caking agents]

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147º

Over

Jaw surgery with premolar extraction to fix the alevor protusion would ascend your side profile so hard.

 

[Deleted member 2748]

136°, it's done

 

[Cain]

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147º

Over

I don't think 147º is really a bad measurement (I could be wrong tho), the thing is that your whole skull is flat, so even if your features are not protruding, you still don't get a super low measurement.
Despite that your side profile doesn't look that bad (at least on that pic), your main problem is your front tbh.

 

[thecel]

Jaw surgery with premolar extraction to fix the alevor protusion would ascend your side profile so hard.

Premolar extraction on my upper jaw?

JFL then I’d have to get premolar extractions on my lower jaw to correct my underbite

Just recess yourself theory

 

[Deleted member 685]

Premolar extraction on my upper jaw?

JFL then I’d have to get premolar extractions on my lower jaw to correct my underbite

Just recess yourself theory

 

[anti caking agents]

Premolar extraction on my upper jaw?

JFL then I’d have to get premolar extractions on my lower jaw to correct my underbite

Just recess yourself theory

Yes- most likely lower too. You will get recessed but then they will do a normal surgery to fix that and add horizontal projection. For an overall improvement.

 

[thecel]

Yes- most likely lower too. You will get recessed but then they will do a normal surgery to fix that and add horizontal projection. For an overall improvement.

Or, I could just get a Le Fort 2 and a chin implant.

 

[Deleted member 685]

Premolar extraction on my upper jaw?

JFL then I’d have to get premolar extractions on my lower jaw to correct my underbite

Just recess yourself theory

 

[anti caking agents]

Or, I could just get a Le Fort 2 and a chin implant.

If you want to take a suboptimal approach to get suboptimal results and stay subhuman. Then sure - be my guest.

 

[thecel]

If you want to take a suboptimal approach to get suboptimal results and stay subhuman. Then sure - be my guest.

What? Suboptimal? Your idea is suboptimal:

Yes- most likely lower too. You will get recessed but then they will do a normal surgery to fix that and add horizontal projection. For an overall improvement.

I don’t see what the point of getting premolar extractions and becoming recessed and then getting surgery to add projection.

Why shouldn’t I just get forward growth surgeries?

Muh alveolar projection. Jfl. There’s paranasal augumentation to bring the base of the nose forwards.

Look, I just need this paranasal implant—

—and a Le Fort 2 osteotomy, and boom that’s a forward-projected maxilla. Plus a chin wing to Chaddify my profile.

 

[Deleted member 685]

What? Suboptimal? Your idea is suboptimal:



I don’t see what the point of getting premolar extractions and becoming recessed and then getting surgery to add projection.

Why shouldn’t I just get forward growth surgeries?

Muh alveolar projection. Jfl there’s paranasal augumentation to bring the base of the nose forwards.

Look, I just need this paranasal implant—

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—and a Le Fort 2 osteotomy, and boom that’s a forward-projected maxilla. Plus a chin wing to Chaddify my profile.

 

[itorroella9]

wouldn't this penalize having an ante face?
nvm i think it doesn't

 

[N1c]

Premolar extraction on my upper jaw?

JFL then I’d have to get premolar extractions on my lower jaw to correct my underbite

Just recess yourself theory

I think MSE+Facemask could fix your case since your underbite is not that severe and you are still young. You should atleast try that and if not even that works you can always do jaw surgery. Altough if you are forced to do jaw surgery try to get lefort 3. Lefort 1 is a meme and will end up making one looking like a monkey

 

[MisterMercedes]

wouldn't this penalize having an ante face?
nvm i think it doesn't

As far as I know, “ante face” means having a projected maxilla/nose, lips, and chin. This angle wouldn’t rule that out as O’ Pry, Nessman, and Barrett have very projected faces but still ideal convexity angle:

The key is to have features that are proportional to each other. If you have a prominent nose, your brow and chin should be projected in proportion to it.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

The most important bimax thread.
@temporomandibular32 @StrangerDanger @slop slinger

 

[Deleted member 18582]

The most important bimax thread.
@temporomandibular32 @StrangerDanger @slop slinger

It's a good measurement.

Although some take this as an overall measurement of forward growth which I don't think is correct. Its just a good measurement for an attractive face.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

It's a good measurement.

Although some take this as an overall measurement of forward growth which I don't think is correct. Its just a good measurement for an attractive face.

What I mean is it's important to keep in mind for bimax and genio.

 

[Lightskinindian]

So this side profile is considered ugly? I have found multiple top models with 150 degrees, especially asians.
If you have a small nose this measurement is off, It is better to use a normal convexity angle I think..

 

[MoggsWithBoness]

142 degrees ITS NOT OVER FOR ME

 

[Tallcell]

Wtf, I have 139 and normal convexity of 167 and I look like a recessed subhuman. Maybe this metric is flawed

 

[Haseeb]

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147º

Over

This u?

 

[noobkiller999]

Alain and Brad looks recessed, jfl

 

[Debetro]

This u?

Why would you ask

 

[Haseeb]

Why would you ask

Idk just curious

 

[Debetro]

Idk just curious

 

[no-mogger-no-cry]

whats mine

 

[Haseeb]

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Nah no way bro advocates bone smashing gotta start it now

 

[LilJojo]

A useful way to evaluate side profile. It is the angle created by the relationship between the glabella, nose, and chin. Ideal angle in males is 141 degrees.

Examples:

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This is a big determinant in how attractive one is, especially with regard to protruding features. When this angle is ideal, the nose, chin, and glabella will all look proportionate to each other, as opposed to one feature being protruding or weak.

It’s interesting how all of the models have this exact measurement