[TRIGGER WARNING: AUTISM] I made a model to explain how people choose their political ideology

[Unhuman]

I call it the moral political compass. I believe that people's political ideologies can be entirely summarised by asking two questions: What is a person's view on human nature, and are they past—or future-oriented?


EDIT:
If someone believes the future will be better than the past, they are future-oriented.
If they believe the past is better than the future, they are past-oriented.

 

[Unhuman]

inb4 water actually think about this.

 

[piec]

what the hell is that shit nigger

 

[Unhuman]

what the hell is that shit nigger

What don't you understand about my post?

 

[Unhuman]

Bump

 

[Kiril Velev]

If they believe the past is better than the future, they are past-oriented.

this is a very shit metric everyone believes the future will be better than the past even if they say they dont its just cause they compare it to their present because they are autistic believe me EVERY single society subconsciously believed that they are one or two hundred years away from utopia - I dont have time to explain it better but its not that simple

(AUTISM)

 

[ProBono]

Sort of relates to my model of the bull, the rodelero and the road

But in my opinion, it's wrong

Authoritarianism, in and of itself, should rely on a strong national ethos and the removal of corruption, nepotism, the belief that human nature can be directed towards the greater good

The difference comes in institutional rule(think one party China, Senatorial Rome) versus totalitarian rule(personal dictatorships)

Liberalism ensures more checks on power, safe transfer of power, belies upon stability through representation, it's the most distrustful of human nature, inherently breeds individualism, it strips the most power away from the individual, and towards interest groups

When it comes to more extreme ideologies, they are almost always authoritarian because they believe the ruling group should be unified, and is more effective as rodeleros than the mass, that this vision requires accountability itself to be excused, the general population will essentially doom itself by representational rule

That's not whether human nature is good or evil, human nature is evil to both, it's the will of the few versus the will of the many

And from a macro point of view, when we look at breakpoints of societal extinction, the answer to which and to what degree it is necessary changes based on the predicaments a society faces

Ideology doesn't exist in a bubble of thought, it is reactive to the issues of the world

That, in and of itself, bypasses human "nature"

Past and future orientation also doesn't really make sense

For the X axis, that's economic

Fascism for example, was touted as a new third way between communism and liberalism by Mussolini

National socialism

It was incredibly capitalistic, entailing mass privatisation

I guess you mean it as a social axis

whether societies should continue down a path of social democratisation, or reel back in

Where the Y axis was simply the shape of a regime

This is the ethos of society

It's not so much past or future oriented

As it is the case that we are already on a path of global social democratisation, so that inherently characterises our future and past orientations

You could talk about a macro(civilizational) point of view here, but as far as personal beliefs go it's true that stances on social issues are widely characterised by future and past orientation

And this graph is about how people choose

The social contract and traditional societal structures as either ideal or not, or otherwise, whether society as it stands is heading in the right or wrong trajectory

I agree with the X axis on social issues

The entire political spectrum is fraudulent, to be honest

I think everybody has two political "beliefs" in them, their short term choice as an approach to the current situation, and their long term ideal for society

These aren't about individual interests by the way

 

[RICHCELDOM]

windows 10?

 

[Unhuman]

this is a very shit metric everyone believes the future will be better than the past even if they say they dont its just cause they compare it to their present because they are autistic believe me EVERY single society subconsciously believed that they are one or two hundred years away from utopia - I dont have time to explain it better but its not that simple

(AUTISM)

This is not true. The core belief of conservativism is that we should not change things because things were better in the past.

 

[Klasik616]

This is not true. The core belief of conservativism is that we should not change things because things were better in the past.

Very simplistic,
The argument of conservatives is against the progressive myth.

The argument goes like this: There's no need to change the present if what we're doing as a society is bringing order and happiness to people.

Progressives in the other hand think everything needs to change because we are always missing out on something.

Unless it's the majority of people who want changes, the progressive argument is pushed from a minority perspective who wants control over the majority of people. This makes conservatives to fight back and defend the things we already have.

The new left for example is a group of minorities who want society to change in some kind of order according to their beliefs which are not commonly accepted.

The things of the past are in the past, once society has accepted a new way of living conservatives start defending the current order. Being a conservative back then was defending monarchy, nowadays is more alligned to classical liberalism.

 

[noobs]

i’m radically bottom left

 

[Kiril Velev]

This is not true. The core belief of conservativism is that we should not change things because things were better in the past.

you make no sense 1. they believe things are better in the past 2. they believe we should not change - are different things: conservatism's view on past and future is that going forward traditions, culture, and structures must be preserved because they carry wisdom which doesn't contradict adapting and evolving (just gradually).

This I mentioned - "utopia is just a couple hundred years ahead", literally stems from Christian believe