Truth about looks?

[tadzio]

What I've come to realize is that other than people who are 1) genuinely fucking ugly or 2) objectively insanely beautiful,

looks really don't matter that much. So for everyone who is in this "middle" range, which is like 99% of us btw, it's all about the Redpill like confidence, hygiene, being NT, dressing nice, SOCIAL SKILLS, eyesight, etc.

Is this true? Or am I missing something?

 

[paveldurovreal]

Or am I missing something?

Height

 

[tadzio]

Height

Same logic applies to height. Unless you're a fucking manlet or fucking tall, it doesn't matter at all. No girl is dumping a 5'9 dude for a 6'0 dude JUST for the height no?

 

[fluoride1337]

Same logic applies to height. Unless you're a fucking manlet or fucking tall, it doesn't matter at all. No girl is dumping a 5'9 dude for a 6'0 dude JUST for the height no?

They absolutely are

 

[Ascendi]

the more gl you are the less anything else matters

 

[tadzio]

They absolutely are

Nah bro I'm 168cm but it doesnt matter trust me

 

[ProBono]

Looks matters for every percentile, its never going to be "all about" a certain aspect like NT or whatever

Every single aspect of your being plays a continuous role

Saying that, unless this extreme or that extreme it doesnt matter at all is thoroughly disingenuous

If you go out irl, you will notice this cumulative difference

Positive reinforcement, less attractive people grouped up into self perpetuating cycles, the degree and willingness of women at any point

 

[tadzio]

Looks matters for every percentile, its never going to be "all about" a certain aspect like NT or whatever

Every single aspect of your being plays a continuous role

Saying that, unless this extreme or that extreme it doesnt matter at all is thoroughly disingenuous

If you go out irl, you will notice this cumulative difference

Positive reinforcement, less attractive people grouped up into self perpetuating cycles, the degree and willingness of women at any point

That makes sense. I don't know though, I talked to 20+ people about this and no one knew or cared about looks maxxing, they thought social skills were everything when rizzing up a girl

 

[ronald_2]

You are 100% wrong.

 

[tadzio]

You are 100% wrong.

Then why are 90% of couples at my university "beautiful" girls paired with average men? Why do short ethnic people get so much respect here? Is it cuz of looks, race, or height? No. It's cuz of social skills, confidence, etc

 

[fluoride1337]

Nah bro I'm 168cm but it doesnt matter trust me

I once had a fwb and before we started fucking, she would talk about how her boyfriend was a horrible person, would fuck her then get up and play league right after, would make her clean his room etc.

She eventually pressured me into LTRing her, and after a few months I wasn't putting much effort in and she cut me off instantly and told me "my last bf taught me that I shouldn't let myself be mistreated teehee"

He treated her way worse objectively, but the difference is that he is 6'4 and I am 6'0.

It absolutely matters.

 

[tadzio]

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I once had a fwb and before we started fucking, she would talk about how her boyfriend was a horrible person, would fuck her then get up and play league right after, would make her clean his room etc.

She eventually pressured me into LTRing her, and after a few months I wasn't putting much effort in and she cut me off instantly and told me "my last bf taught me that I shouldn't let myself be mistreated teehee"

He treated her way worse objectively, but the difference is that he is 6'4 and I am 6'0.

It absolutely matters.

Bro what kinda life are you living HAHA that's crazy !!

 

[fluoride1337]

B

Bro what kinda life are you living HAHA that's crazy !!

?

 

[ProBono]

That makes sense. I don't know though, I talked to 20+ people about this and no one knew or cared about looks maxxing, they thought social skills were everything when rizzing up a girl

Sounds like you are just making compartmentalisations because you've already resigned to redpill beliefs

That's all these are at the end of the day, beliefs, Becoming "pilled" occurs because you've had to challenge your own beliefs after being provided enough evidence that counters it

I don't believe with radical blackpillers either, and I don't think you should concentrate on anecdotes from any particular group, it will just create a confirmation bias

This is the view you have, that looks largely don't matter, and nothing I say with words would or should convince you, it's just something to experience in real life

 

[tadzio]

?

I want to be like you. My life is boring...!

 

[noahwillascend]

What I've come to realize is that other than people who are 1) genuinely fucking ugly or 2) objectively insanely beautiful,

looks really don't matter that much. So for everyone who is in this "middle" range, which is like 99% of us btw, it's all about the Redpill like confidence, hygiene, being NT, dressing nice, SOCIAL SKILLS, eyesight, etc.

Is this true? Or am I missing something?

i mean yeah Avarage is average, your just gonna live an Avarage life. u won’t live like chico did at a teenager.
u will get treated Avarage, not good not bad. Ur education and skills are much more important rather than a chad that can score a job solely on his looks

 

[EliteMak]

You’re right. When you’re in the average right (from slightly below average to slightly above average), people will be largely indifferent to your appearance. They won’t ever mention it or even think about it and you’ll need other traits such as personality, charisma to carry you

 

[JohnnyRamone]

Same logic applies to height. Unless you're a fucking manlet or fucking tall, it doesn't matter at all. No girl is dumping a 5'9 dude for a 6'0 dude JUST for the height no?

No. They aren’t, but Gymcelling is a wincon. Put on muscle at about 10 to 20% body fat and as long as you’re not a complete manlet or physically deformed, you’ll have options in dating. Probably good ones too.

 

[billymidnight]

Same logic applies to height. Unless you're a fucking manlet or fucking tall, it doesn't matter at all. No girl is dumping a 5'9 dude for a 6'0 dude JUST for the height no?

You’d be surprised

 

[EliteMak]

Sounds like you are just making compartmentalisations because you've already resigned to redpill beliefs

That's all these are at the end of the day, beliefs, Becoming "pilled" occurs because you've had to challenge your own beliefs after being provided enough evidence that counters it

I don't believe with radical blackpillers either, and I don't think you should concentrate on anecdotes from any particular group, it will just create a confirmation bias

This is the view you have, that looks largely don't matter, and nothing I say with words would or should convince you, it's just something to experience in real life

Looks matters for every percentile, its never going to be "all about" a certain aspect like NT or whatever

Every single aspect of your being plays a continuous role

Saying that, unless this extreme or that extreme it doesnt matter at all is thoroughly disingenuous

If you go out irl, you will notice this cumulative difference

Positive reinforcement, less attractive people grouped up into self perpetuating cycles, the degree and willingness of women at any point

Nigga ur language is too much for these low dopamine faggots to understand, simplify it for them

 

[ProBono]

Nigga ur language is too much for these low dopamine faggots to understand, simplify it for them

Sorry nigga I had an english test today, practicing my craft on greycels

 

[NoaA99]

Height is the most distinctive factor for women, when selecting for short- or long term rs.
It’s rare for a man to be considered universally attractive based solely on facial features, this typically applies only to those in the highest percentiles.

As a result, women prioritise height, as it is both common and an objectively measurable trait.
However, the ideal range is not as high as often suggested on this site (more like 1.85–1.90 meters).
Beyond this range, any additional height has diminishing returns and may even limit someone’s potential dating pool

 

[ducksoover]

What I've come to realize is that other than people who are 1) genuinely fucking ugly or 2) objectively insanely beautiful,

looks really don't matter that much. So for everyone who is in this "middle" range, which is like 99% of us btw, it's all about the Redpill like confidence, hygiene, being NT, dressing nice, SOCIAL SKILLS, eyesight, etc.

Is this true? Or am I missing something?

we evolved to want better genetics for our offspring

 

[NoaA99]

You’d be surprised

Right? They absolutely do, 7-8cm is a huge difference for a women in a range, that sits closer to average.
Even 3-5cm can make all the difference.