Trying to manipulate hormones and their receptors at 16

[ts1]

Srry to all peptide and roid users im talking abt supplements here (ik boooo fake plastic nutrients or wtv its cope ik but it doesnt matter cus i here its fine anyway im talking abt hypotheticals here anyway)

Im taking certain supplements that r said to affect estrogens and androgens aswell as cortisol etc. Like P5P DIM ashwaghanda amd stuff and ive heard that targetting hormones at 16 is a bad idea (from chatgpt and other ais ) as it can impact brain development and thr way my balls work cus the body is establishing baselines and receptors or wtv and might make less androgens and more estrogens later on and wtv om doing might have a permanent effect later on (if the supplements work)

So mainly im askimg if messinf w these hormones like decreasing estrogens and stuff like GABA and stuff is fine for me now of they work and asking if they will impact me later on permanently and also ghatgpt was saying thay estrogen is needed to broaden shoulders and stuff and wo estrogen u cant get masculinisation but i doubt it cus i dont trsut chatgpt fully which is y im asking here

Tldr is above the tldr msg so the last paragrapg

 

[BR32]

Yes fucking with your E2 during development will cause problems if overdone for extended periods of time

 

[BR32]

Yes fucking with your E2 during development will cause problems if overdone for extended periods of time

This is the #1 thing I stress on .org

 

[ts1]

Yes fucking with your E2 during development will cause problems if overdone for extended periods of time

so no p5p and dim aldo i have gyno

 

[Orka]

Don't fuck with your test, estrogen or dht levels until you're 18//fully developed

 

[ts1]

Don't fuck with your test, estrogen or dht levels until you're 18//fully developed

But i have gyno and i want wider shoulders and better face bones so i need to optimise my hormones now right

 

[BR32]

so no p5p and dim aldo i have gyno

Yeah no

Take raloxifene for gyno

 

[ts1]

Don't fuck with your test, estrogen or dht levels until you're 18//fully developed

Whats w all the ppl pinning gh and test and stuff then during puberty

 

[BR32]

But i have gyno and i want wider shoulders and better face bones so i need to optimise my hormones now right

Tanking your estrogen isn’t optimizing your hormones you need estrogen

 

[ts1]

Yeah no

Take raloxifene for gyno

Raloxifene? Whats that is it otc?

 

[BR32]

Whats w all the ppl pinning gh and test and stuff then during puberty

They are stupid

GH is valid

 

[Orka]

Whats w all the ppl pinning gh and test and stuff then during puberty

they pin gh, gh isn't anabolic and doesn't rape your hormones as much as test does

 

[ts1]

Tanking your estrogen isn’t optimizing your hormones you need estrogen

Its just supplements it prolly wont tank it righr just decrease it a bit

 

[BR32]

Raloxifene? Whats that is it otc?

No you gotta buy from India mart or something

 

[BR32]

they pin gh, gh isn't anabolic and doesn't rape your hormones as much as test does

Nah plenty of retards take test and ai too

 

[ts1]

They are stupid

GH is valid

L arginine increases gh apparently so can i take that? Alsk GABA is meant to impact it mayeb jus thru sleep thk

 

[ts1]

No you gotta buy from India mart or something

I cant do that

 

[Orka]

Nah plenty of retards take test and ai too

test ai and gh together?

how do people manage to get all that and learn how to pin it before doing any research on what it does to you

 

[BR32]

L arginine increases gh apparently so can i take that? Alsk GABA is meant to impact it mayeb jus thru sleep thk

Increasing gh by any means other than HGH is cope and a waste of your money and time

 

[ts1]

Increasing gh by any means other than HGH is cope and a waste of your money and time

I have nothing else to spend money on so i may aswell cope

 

[Orka]

But i have gyno and i want wider shoulders and better face bones so i need to optimise my hormones now right

yea nuke all ur hormones and you'll be a shriveled up framelet cuck

 

[BR32]

I cant do that

That sucks

 

[ts1]

test ai and gh together?

how do people manage to get all that and learn how to pin it before doing any research on what it does to you

It was just an example

 

[BR32]

I have nothing else to spend money on so i may aswell cope

It will do nothing

 

[ts1]

yea nuke all ur hormones and you'll be a shriveled up framelet cuck

Ok cool ty i wont take the hormone ones then should i send the supplements i was planning to take and u guyscan help me w it or do u not gaf and i should hang myself

 

[BR32]

test ai and gh together?

how do people manage to get all that and learn how to pin it before doing any research on what it does to you

They find sources here

 

[ts1]

It will do nothing

So it wont do anything bad in that case ill take it just in case it does smth good

 

[Orka]

They find sources here

over, I'm apart of the problem

fuck it, they deserve it for not doing research

 

[ts1]

That sucks

I dont live in a super popular country so i doubt stuff like that is delivered here it sucks

 

[BR32]

over, I'm apart of the problem

fuck it, they deserve it for not doing research

Yep I don’t feel bad research ain’t hard

 

[BR32]

I dont live in a super popular country so i doubt stuff like that is delivered here it sucks

You should check k

 

[ts1]

You should check k

My parents would def disapprove

 

[ts1]

So im planning
Boron
L arginine
P5P
DIM
GABA
L carnitine
Zinc
Magnesium
Calcium
D3
K2
Ashwaghanda
Selenium

Along w vit e and omega 3

Which 1s r a bad idea just any that impact hormones?

 

[birthdefect]

Yeah no

Take raloxifene for gyno

nah, it acts as an estrogen agonist on the growth plate
but no idea if plates are fused or not cus i dnrd after i read ashwagandha

 

[BR32]

nah, it acts as an estrogen agonist on the growth plate
but no idea if plates are fused or not cus i dnrd after i read ashwagandha

it’s designed to target breast tissue exclusively

 

[birthdefect]

it’s designed to target breast tissue exclusively

basically every serm including raloxifene acts as an estrogen agonist on bone tissue, because the target demographic is never children with open growth plates.

 

[ts1]

Basically what im gettibg from this is i jyst need to pray that my gyno goes away

 

[ts1]

Qnd that my hormones r good