pandamonium
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Two miracles which prove christianity
1) the shroud of turin
The shroud of turin has many miraculous properties but probably the most interesting part of it is the fact that there are no paint strokes, no dyes, no pigment, and no binders, the image on the shroud is literally infused in the fibrils itself. All attempts to reproduce it have utterly failed. The closest theyve gotten is using lasers and it still failed to reproduce it outside of a superficial level. The image is also only on the outtermost layers of the shroud of the extemely thin fibrils (about 0.2 microns. The human hair is 50-100 microns). I could go on but the basics is there is no possible mechanism of reproducing all of the aspects of the shroud. Especially for a medeival “artist” the best response ive seen is that maybe they had tools or access to something which was lost. Which would be a fair argument but it wouldnt make sense for this tool to have only been used for one painting that happens to supposedly be the shroud of jesus
Also the radiocarbon dating proves nothing since it was on a repaired part of the shroud (they even tested that part of the shroud that got replaced after a fire and it was chemically different and the weaving technique was different)
2) our lady of zeitoun
mary was found over a church in zeitoun and millions of people saw it. The coptic church and the government of egypt did a investigation and to get people to calm down they tried shutting off the electricity in zeitoun and the light was still there. There were some photos (possible fake or real they did look a little sketchy but i doubt all of them were faked) thousands to millions of people per night reported seeing the same thing. There was even a skeptical journalist who went to visit and she did report seeing lights too. Although she didnt know if it was mary
You could make a argument that the lights are alien or some random god but i think its more likely to be a supernatural occurrence then millions of people hallucinating the same thing at the same time
1) the shroud of turin
The shroud of turin has many miraculous properties but probably the most interesting part of it is the fact that there are no paint strokes, no dyes, no pigment, and no binders, the image on the shroud is literally infused in the fibrils itself. All attempts to reproduce it have utterly failed. The closest theyve gotten is using lasers and it still failed to reproduce it outside of a superficial level. The image is also only on the outtermost layers of the shroud of the extemely thin fibrils (about 0.2 microns. The human hair is 50-100 microns). I could go on but the basics is there is no possible mechanism of reproducing all of the aspects of the shroud. Especially for a medeival “artist” the best response ive seen is that maybe they had tools or access to something which was lost. Which would be a fair argument but it wouldnt make sense for this tool to have only been used for one painting that happens to supposedly be the shroud of jesus
Also the radiocarbon dating proves nothing since it was on a repaired part of the shroud (they even tested that part of the shroud that got replaced after a fire and it was chemically different and the weaving technique was different)
2) our lady of zeitoun
mary was found over a church in zeitoun and millions of people saw it. The coptic church and the government of egypt did a investigation and to get people to calm down they tried shutting off the electricity in zeitoun and the light was still there. There were some photos (possible fake or real they did look a little sketchy but i doubt all of them were faked) thousands to millions of people per night reported seeing the same thing. There was even a skeptical journalist who went to visit and she did report seeing lights too. Although she didnt know if it was mary
You could make a argument that the lights are alien or some random god but i think its more likely to be a supernatural occurrence then millions of people hallucinating the same thing at the same time
