(UK) stay domestic or travel elsewhere for surgery

[l0ad]

double jaw surgery averages at like £25k and its crazy. people on here say to avoid turkey and i dont have any knowledge of surgeons outside of the UK.

can anyone lmk good countries and reputable surgeons in those countries? or should i overspend a shit ton and play safe

 

[Nahorscend]

Go to south america or continental europe

 

[vermicel]

double jaw surgery averages at like £25k and its crazy. people on here say to avoid turkey and i dont have any knowledge of surgeons outside of the UK.

can anyone lmk good countries and reputable surgeons in those countries? or should i overspend a shit ton and play safe

Consensus from UK users is that you're better off going abroad for DJS and for most cosmetic surgeries as well.

That said, it's strongly advised not to cheap out ; especially not with jaw surgery, given its heavy repercussions on your life.

Nobody here will say to avoid Turkey at all cost ; they do have a few good orthognathic surgeons. Based on this forum, Dr. Eren Pera is well-regarded. Expect your surgery to cost around £16-18K with him. Dr. Burak Erçin has a few patients here, often combining orthognathics with implants (jaw angles and others) ; he charges a bit less than Eren Pera, but is still on the expensive side by Turkish standards.
You can most certainly find Turkish surgeons who will ask £8-9K for DJS, but beware of their skills and ethics.

If you're going abroad for surgery and prefer to avoid Turkey, you won't be lacking options across continental Europe.
It's been the trend here to go to Italy to the same 3 surgeons (Drs. Raffaini, Ramieri, Pagnoni) ; as a consequence, they got overhyped and now charge a hefty fee. You won't save much money if any at all by going there.
France has a few competent orthognathic surgeons (see this thread : https://looksmax.org/threads/go-to-france-for-ascension-tomorrow.1897607/ ) and their prices are much more reasonable ; you can expect a £7-9K price bracket on average.
Dr. Alfaro is a popular Spanish specialist. He must be expensive and he has his critics. I haven't heard of other Spanish surgeons, but I'm not particularly invested in the topic (I don't need DJS myself), so other users may chime in.
Germany is not particularly discussed on this forum, although they seem to have a few reliable orthognathic specialists (Drs. Kater, Khüle + Freudelsprenger, etc.). Dr Zarrinbal was popular at some point, but has his critics.

If you're willing to travel further abroad, then Brazil seems to be a good hub for orthognathic surgery. Dr André Luis Bim and others are usually well-regarded, and still charge a reasonable amount at the present time (around the £7-9K range).

The list above is not exhaustive and will simply give you a little head start in your research.

 

[l0ad]

Consensus from UK users is that you're better off going abroad for DJS and for most cosmetic surgeries as well.

That said, it's strongly advised not to cheap out ; especially not with jaw surgery, given its heavy repercussions on your life.

Nobody here will say to avoid Turkey at all cost ; they do have a few good orthognathic surgeons. Based on this forum, Dr. Eren Pera is well-regarded. Expect your surgery to cost around £16-18K with him. Dr. Burak Erçin has a few patients here, often combining orthognathics with implants (jaw angles and others) ; he charges a bit less than Eren Pera, but is still on the expensive side by Turkish standards.
You can most certainly find Turkish surgeons who will ask £8-9K for DJS, but beware of their skills and ethics.

If you're going abroad for surgery and prefer to avoid Turkey, you won't be lacking options across continental Europe.
It's been the trend here to go to Italy to the same 3 surgeons (Drs. Raffaini, Ramieri, Pagnoni) ; as a consequence, they got overhyped and now charge a hefty fee. You won't save much money if any at all by going there.
France has a few competent orthognathic surgeons (see this thread : https://looksmax.org/threads/go-to-france-for-ascension-tomorrow.1897607/ ) and their prices are much more reasonable ; you can expect a £7-9K price bracket on average.
Dr. Alfaro is a popular Spanish specialist. He must be expensive and he has his critics. I haven't heard of other Spanish surgeons, but I'm not particularly invested in the topic (I don't need DJS myself), so other users may chime in.
Germany is not particularly discussed on this forum, although they seem to have a few reliable orthognathic specialists (Drs. Kater, Khüle + Freudelsprenger, etc.). Dr Zarrinbal was popular at some point, but has his critics.

If you're willing to travel further abroad, then Brazil seems to be a good hub for orthognathic surgery. Dr André Luis Bim and others are usually well-regarded, and still charge a reasonable amount at the present time (around the £7-9K range).

The list above is not exhaustive and will simply give you a little head start in your research.

im willing to pay a "high amount" in turkey if they class £16K as expensive. Thanks for your post, i may stick with Dr. Pera

 

[vermicel]

i may stick with Dr. Pera

Keep in mind that you will need complementary orthodontics (Invisalign or another type of braces). The cost of it will come on top of expenses associated with jaw surgery.
Dr. Eren Pera seems to be known for his "surgery first" approach. It means that you'll start the orthodontic treatment after surgery.
Ideally, you want your jaw surgeon to collaborate with your orthodontist for an optimal process.

Based on a quick research, Pera charged 12K (euros ?) for bimaxillary surgery last year, and has increased his prices as of January 1st.
I don't know if you need a genioplasty as well (bimax + genio = "trimax"), so final price may be higher.
If you go with Pera, it seems that you can do your CBCT scan on site, upon your arrival in Turkey. If not, you have to ask him for a referral and then use that referral with an imaging center in the UK, like for example Cavendish Imaging in London.

 

[l0ad]

Keep in mind that you will need complementary orthodontics (Invisalign or another type of braces). The cost of it will come on top of expenses associated with jaw surgery.
Dr. Eren Pera seems to be known for his "surgery first" approach. It means that you'll start the orthodontic treatment after surgery.
Ideally, you want your jaw surgeon to collaborate with your orthodontist for an optimal process.

Based on a quick research, Pera charged 12K (euros ?) for bimaxillary surgery last year, and has increased his prices as of January 1st.
I don't know if you need a genioplasty as well (bimax + genio = "trimax"), so final price may be higher.
If you go with Pera, it seems that you can do your CBCT scan on site, upon your arrival in Turkey. If not, you have to ask him for a referral and then use that referral with an imaging center in the UK, like for example Cavendish Imaging in London.

i've already had braces a couple years ago, not sure if that changes things

My chin is decently projected so it will just be bimax. Although i do need CW rotation in my mandible since i have a deep bite, which will probably increase price.

Will most likely do everything in Turkey. Should make it easier for myself

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Will Dr. Pera be able to collaborate with my orthodontist in England?

 

[tansel]

there’s very good surgeons in spain who do it for 10,000-15,000 with payment plans, but most of the time they put you in braces beforehand for 12-18 months.

 

[tyler1234]

i've already had braces a couple years ago, not sure if that changes things

My chin is decently projected so it will just be bimax. Although i do need CW rotation in my mandible since i have a deep bite, which will probably increase price.

Will most likely do everything in Turkey. Should make it easier for myself

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Will Dr. Pera be able to collaborate with my orthodontist in England?

He probs want to do surgery first but if not I recon it’s easier just to get an invislighn package from them

 

[tyler1234]

Consensus from UK users is that you're better off going abroad for DJS and for most cosmetic surgeries as well.

That said, it's strongly advised not to cheap out ; especially not with jaw surgery, given its heavy repercussions on your life.

Nobody here will say to avoid Turkey at all cost ; they do have a few good orthognathic surgeons. Based on this forum, Dr. Eren Pera is well-regarded. Expect your surgery to cost around £16-18K with him. Dr. Burak Erçin has a few patients here, often combining orthognathics with implants (jaw angles and others) ; he charges a bit less than Eren Pera, but is still on the expensive side by Turkish standards.
You can most certainly find Turkish surgeons who will ask £8-9K for DJS, but beware of their skills and ethics.

If you're going abroad for surgery and prefer to avoid Turkey, you won't be lacking options across continental Europe.
It's been the trend here to go to Italy to the same 3 surgeons (Drs. Raffaini, Ramieri, Pagnoni) ; as a consequence, they got overhyped and now charge a hefty fee. You won't save much money if any at all by going there.
France has a few competent orthognathic surgeons (see this thread : https://looksmax.org/threads/go-to-france-for-ascension-tomorrow.1897607/ ) and their prices are much more reasonable ; you can expect a £7-9K price bracket on average.
Dr. Alfaro is a popular Spanish specialist. He must be expensive and he has his critics. I haven't heard of other Spanish surgeons, but I'm not particularly invested in the topic (I don't need DJS myself), so other users may chime in.
Germany is not particularly discussed on this forum, although they seem to have a few reliable orthognathic specialists (Drs. Kater, Khüle + Freudelsprenger, etc.). Dr Zarrinbal was popular at some point, but has his critics.

If you're willing to travel further abroad, then Brazil seems to be a good hub for orthognathic surgery. Dr André Luis Bim and others are usually well-regarded, and still charge a reasonable amount at the present time (around the £7-9K range).

The list above is not exhaustive and will simply give you a little head start in your research.

Alfaro has many botched cases and he writes fake reviews on his websit3