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[VampyrMaxx]

what if pair bonding abilities don't just diminish once you sleep with the girl.

What if they also diminish when you have a crush on someone, or even look at a girl.

Fuck.

 

[thereallegend]

Pair bonding diminishes with each new girl you fap to as well

 

[VampyrMaxx]

Pair bonding diminishes with each new girl you fap to as well

society sucks

 

[Dankforce1]

As a guy, you shouldn't care about 'pair bonding'. Women are literally programmed for hypergamy and monkey branching. The only ones who don't do it, are the ones who aren't good looking enough to get away with it.

Attractive girls will like you more if they believe you have a high body count, and they respond way more to indifference than someone who glazes the shit out of them. Pair bonding is a weakness for men, not a strength.

 

[VampyrMaxx]

As a guy, you shouldn't care about 'pair bonding'. Women are literally programmed for hypergamy and monkey branching. The only ones who don't do it, are the ones who aren't good looking enough to get away with it.

Attractive girls will like you more if they believe you have a high body count, and they respond way more to indifference than someone who glazes the shit out of them. Pair bonding is a weakness for men, not a strength.

if you actually believe this, you are bluepilled on psychology. Both sides should be virgin and as pure as possible going into the first relationship. Virgin is law for men and women. Pair bonding works the same way in both genders.

 

[Dankforce1]

if you actually believe this, you are bluepilled on psychology. Both sides should be virgin and as pure as possible going into the first relationship. Virgin is law for men and women. Pair bonding works the same way in both genders.

JFL if you think even a moderately attractive girl over the age of 18 is a virgin in 2026. Most of them have double digit body counts by 20.

Yes that would be ideal. But life isn't some Disney movie. Girls mainly want what other girls want. Attractive women are disgusted by virgins, it's pretty much the ultimate sign that no one wants you romantically. Women will settle for being used and cheated on, before they settle for a guy who doesn't challenge them, or makes them feel like they don't need to work to be chosen.

Women want to feel chosen. If you've never had any other options, you can't 'choose', and it will be evident in your behavior. You will come off as desperate if you show them the type of love you think that they want.

The only exception is extremely religious girls, who are almost non-existent in the West, and rarely attractive.

 

[VampyrMaxx]

JFL if you think even a moderately attractive girl over the age of 18 is a virgin in 2026. Most of them have double digit body counts by 20.

Yes that would be ideal. But life isn't some Disney movie. Girls mainly want what other girls want. Attractive women are disgusted by virgins, it's pretty much the ultimate sign that no one wants you romantically. Women will settle for being used and cheated on, before they settle for a guy who doesn't challenge them, or makes them feel like they don't need to work to be chosen.

Women want to feel chosen. If you've never had any other options, you can't 'choose', and it will be evident in your behavior. You will come off as desperate if you show them the type of love you think that they want.

Interesting points tbh and yea it's pretty sad the degeneracy society has come to.

I wouldn't say girls are disgusted by virgins. They prefer them if anything. It's all about your anatomy tbh.

They don't really care for a challenge. They just want an attractive mate.

You won't come off as desperate if you're attractive. It's sexy to women if you love them a lot, but if you do that as an ugly guy, she will know you're a loser.

The solution is to find a virgin, after you ascend, which is going to be pretty difficult.

 

[Dankforce1]

Interesting points tbh and yea it's pretty sad the degeneracy society has come to.

I wouldn't say girls are disgusted by virgins. They prefer them if anything. It's all about your anatomy tbh.

They don't really care for a challenge. They just want an attractive mate.

You won't come off as desperate if you're attractive. It's sexy to women if you love them a lot, but if you do that as an ugly guy, she will know you're a loser.

The solution is to find a virgin, after you ascend, which is going to be pretty difficult.

Bro. Believing a girl who says she prefers virgins is no different then believing a girl who says she dates for 'personality' and 'compatibility'.

I'm guessing you've never heard how girls talk when they think guys aren't listening.

Most men and women NEED a challenge to be in a relationship, and this is something most people don't realize. If you hand over commitment like it's worthless, they will treat it as worthless. You need to make them feel like they're lucky you chose them, by acting indifferent to everything they do, and acting like they are replaceable until they ask you to commit to them. While this sounds ultra redpilled - women want to be submissive. They want to follow. They literally want you to decide what they're going to eat for dinner.

They want to feel inferior to you in every way in the things that matter - looks, money, status - and if they don't - they will inherently feel like they are settling. This is also why women almost always date up, and most men are forced to date down.

Men and women do not love in even remotely the same way. Men love with a sense of permanence, and women love in the moment. I have to imagine you've never had you heart broken by someone who you thought was brutally in love with you, because it will shatter all these disney-style illusions you have about love and relationships.

 

[VampyrMaxx]

Bro. Believing a girl who says she prefers virgins is no different then believing a girl who says she dates for 'personality' and 'compatibility'.

this just redpill rage. And redpill is nonsense.

Most men and women NEED a challenge to be in a relationship, and this is something most people don't realize. If you hand over commitment like it's worthless, they will treat it as worthless. You need to make them feel like they're lucky you chose them, by acting indifferent to everything they do, and acting like they are replaceable until they ask you to commit to them. While this sounds ultra redpilled - women want to be submissive. They want to follow. They literally want you to decide what they're going to eat for dinner.

Why would I want a challenge. Why would a female want a challenge. Everybody wants easy love?

Your commitment only seems worthless if youre UNATTRACTIVE. They will feel lucky to be with you if youre a TALL GIGACHAD. You cant play mindgames to convince them you're higher worth. They can see your bones and whether you are worthy to be a partner.

If you were handsome tall gigachad, do you think that girls would want you to play games of commitment with them? No, they would see your body and know that you are worthy of love.

They don't want to feel replacable. But if they are themselves unnattractive they will know that they are replacable, which will lead to insecurity. This is why you should not date down or up in looks.

They want to feel inferior to you in every way in the things that matter - looks, money, status - and if they don't - they will inherently feel like they are settling. This is also why women almost always date up, and most men are forced to date down.

Money and status are made up and dont exist naturally. women care about money and status for economic, social, and cultural reasons, not biological/emotional reasons. A women cant love you for your money.

They dont want to feel inferior or superior looks wise. Every biological organism wants to be a terrachad and then have a terrastacy companion, vice versa for girls.

Men and women do not love in even remotely the same way. Men love with a sense of permanence, and women love in the moment. I have to imagine you've never had you heart broken by someone who you thought was brutally in love with you, because it will shatter all these disney-style illusions you have about love and relationships.

No men and women do love in the same way. Not only are women hypergamous, but so are men (until you get a perfect partner).

Love is a disney movie, you just have to be attractive enough to experience it. And thats also assuming life and environmental conditions align too.

 

[VampyrMaxx]

Bro. Believing a girl who says she prefers virgins is no different then believing a girl who says she dates for 'personality' and 'compatibility'.

I'm guessing you've never heard how girls talk when they think guys aren't listening.

Most men and women NEED a challenge to be in a relationship, and this is something most people don't realize. If you hand over commitment like it's worthless, they will treat it as worthless. You need to make them feel like they're lucky you chose them, by acting indifferent to everything they do, and acting like they are replaceable until they ask you to commit to them. While this sounds ultra redpilled - women want to be submissive. They want to follow. They literally want you to decide what they're going to eat for dinner.

They want to feel inferior to you in every way in the things that matter - looks, money, status - and if they don't - they will inherently feel like they are settling. This is also why women almost always date up, and most men are forced to date down.

Men and women do not love in even remotely the same way. Men love with a sense of permanence, and women love in the moment. I have to imagine you've never had you heart broken by someone who you thought was brutally in love with you, because it will shatter all these disney-style illusions you have about love and relationships.

redpillers say dont cry in front of your girl.

If you were attractive you could literally be the boggest crybaby on Earth, and she would still love you.

All these mindgames to try and make up for your aesthetic disfortune

All youre showing the girl, is how insecure you are.

Being cold to her, will only tell her subconciously tgat you don't admire her. That is horrible. Would you want your girl to be cold. Is that how you want to be treated?

And dont even start with "they have to percieve you as high value ", you are high value if you are handsome and tall, end of story.

 

[itssoover0457]

this just redpill rage. And redpill is nonsense.

Why would I want a challenge. Why would a female want a challenge. Everybody wants easy love?

Your commitment only seems worthless if youre UNATTRACTIVE. They will feel lucky to be with you if youre a TALL GIGACHAD. You cant play mindgames to convince them you're higher worth. They can see your bones and whether you are worthy to be a partner.

If you were handsome tall gigachad, do you think that girls would want you to play games of commitment with them? No, they would see your body and know that you are worthy of love.

They don't want to feel replacable. But if they are themselves unnattractive they will know that they are replacable, which will lead to insecurity. This is why you should not date down or up in looks.

Money and status are made up and dont exist naturally. women care about money and status for economic, social, and cultural reasons, not biological/emotional reasons. A women cant love you for your money.

They dont want to feel inferior or superior looks wise. Every biological organism wants to be a terrachad and then have a terrastacy companion, vice versa for girls.

No men and women do love in the same way. Not only are women hypergamous, but so are men (until you get a perfect partner).

Love is a disney movie, you just have to be attractive enough to experience it. And thats also assuming life and environmental conditions align too.

fr i wanna looksmax so much to the point where i can find a girl i really love and we’ll both be virgins and we’ll fuck for the first time and stay together and she’ll stay with me bc i’ll be good looking. i don’t wanna believe women don’t like virgins, i don’t think they care as long as you’re attractive. if being a virgin is a sign no girl wants you, that can’t be true if u check all the other boxes. if ur attractive and a virgin, then that means it’s ur decision. u are rejecting other women

 

[sadcel]

JFL at you if you still believe in pair bonding in 2026

 

[VampyrMaxx]

fr i wanna looksmax so much to the point where i can find a girl i really love and we’ll both be virgins and we’ll fuck for the first time and stay together and she’ll stay with me bc i’ll be good looking. i don’t wanna believe women don’t like virgins, i don’t think they care as long as you’re attractive. if being a virgin is a sign no girl wants you, that can’t be true if u check all the other boxes. if ur attractive and a virgin, then that means it’s ur decision. u are rejecting other women

Fax. Women like virgins for tge same reason men like virgins. Its because there pair bonding abilities are at an all time high. Which means you can love each other optimally.

Men believe sleeping with a lot of women makes you masculine. All it shows is that you're a whore.

Polygamy is a modern illness. You are supposed to have a family with your first. That is the manliest and most romantic things you can do.

 

[VampyrMaxx]

JFL at you if you still believe in pair bonding in 2026

As in it doesnt exist? Can you explain?

 

[sadcel]

As in it doesnt exist? Can you explain?

You can get thay if youre maybe CL and your girlfriend is MTB or below,

what I see around me in the west is people just jump between relationships like nothing happened.

My advice would be to just enjoy things happening now without thinking you will grow old with your gf

 

[sadcel]

All it shows is that you're a whore.

that's cope, men and woman are not equal in dating

 

[itssoover0457]

Fax. Women like virgins for tge same reason men like virgins. Its because there pair bonding abilities are at an all time high. Which means you can love each other optimally.

Men believe sleeping with a lot of women makes you masculine. All it shows is that you're a whore.

Polygamy is a modern illness. You are supposed to have a family with your first. That is the manliest and most romantic things you can do.

i never got why men sleeping around was high t but women sleeping around was bad. it should be the same for both sexes. a whore is a whore regardless. if ur tall enough and handsome enough and ur a virgin in 2026, that doesn’t mean ur an incel or a beta. if anything, it means ur a high value man and u are willingly saying no to every other woman because they they are not on your level. u are saving yourself up. that’s the standard imo. idk who told everyone that you’re supposed to rack up your body count and settle

 

[VampyrMaxx]

You can get thay if youre maybe CL and your girlfriend is MTB or below,

what I see around me in the west is people just jump between relationships like nothing happened.

My advice would be to just enjoy things happening now without thinking you will grow old with your gf

The solution is to get a virgin, and be attractive yourself, which is what I plan to do.

that's cope, men and woman are not equal in dating

They arent equal because one man can reproduce with multiple women. But their actual mentalities towards love and relationships is the same. They all want to have children with the first person they have sex with.

 

[Deleted member 175762]

Just like lock in with a bbl warrior who had a glow up idk

 

[VampyrMaxx]

i never got why men sleeping around was high t but women sleeping around was bad. it should be the same for both sexes. a whore is a whore regardless. if ur tall enough and handsome enough and ur a virgin in 2026, that doesn’t mean ur an incel or a beta. if anything, it means ur a high value man and u are willingly saying no to every other woman because they they are not on your level. u are saving yourself up. that’s the standard imo. idk who told everyone that you’re supposed to rack up your body count and settle

Fax

 

[Thad Castle]

Just like lock in with a bbl warrior who had a glow up idk

bro plz change ur avi shit is horrifying

 

[Deleted member 175762]

bro plz change ur avi shit is horrifying

That’s the point bro im gonna get banned anyways doesn’t matter

 

[Thad Castle]

That’s the point bro im gonna get banned anyways doesn’t matter

whatd u do

 

[oculus]

if you actually believe this, you are bluepilled on psychology. Both sides should be virgin and as pure as possible going into the first relationship. Virgin is law for men and women. Pair bonding works the same way in both genders.

virginity is a made up word from society wtf

 

[Deleted member 175762]

whatd u do

Got sponsered to promote fake peptide scam

 

[Deleted member 175762]

virginity is a made up word from society wtf

Virginity should be lost right when you find a partner during your teen years imo

 

[VampyrMaxx]

virginity is a made up word from society wtf

"Virgin" is not made up, it means that ypur pair bonding is at an all time high

 

[Thad Castle]

Got sponsered to promote fake peptide scam

W sellout

 

[Deleted member 175762]

W sellout

20 bucks is 20 bucks ig

 

[oculus]

"Virgin" is not made up, it means that ypur pair bonding is at an all time high

socially constructed word but i just looked up pair bonding lowkey agree with it

 

[ectomorpher]

Women like virgins for tge same reason men like virgins

If women truly valued virginity in men as much as men value virginity in women, I promise you incels would have 0 struggle finding a partner right now.
Women LOVE when a man has many options, not when he doesn't have any, and a Virgin man is 100% of the time because he can't find anyone.

 

[Frizbreeze]

Interesting points tbh and yea it's pretty sad the degeneracy society has come to.

I wouldn't say girls are disgusted by virgins. They prefer them if anything. It's all about your anatomy tbh.

They don't really care for a challenge. They just want an attractive mate.

You won't come off as desperate if you're attractive. It's sexy to women if you love them a lot, but if you do that as an ugly guy, she will know you're a loser.

The solution is to find a virgin, after you ascend, which is going to be pretty difficult.

only way to find a virgin is literally by being in a long term relationship since you were a teen. And even then, most teens nowadays aren't virgins themselves (average age to lose virginity is 16).

 

[ectomorpher]

i never got why men sleeping around was high t but women sleeping around was bad. it should be the same for both sexes. a whore is a whore regardless. if ur tall enough and handsome enough and ur a virgin in 2026, that doesn’t mean ur an incel or a beta. if anything, it means ur a high value man and u are willingly saying no to every other woman because they they are not on your level. u are saving yourself up. that’s the standard imo. idk who told everyone that you’re supposed to rack up your body count and settle

0 knowledge about biology

 

[VampyrMaxx]

only way to find a virgin is literally by being in a long term relationship since you were a teen. And even then, most teens nowadays aren't virgins themselves (average age to lose virginity is 16).

there is definitelty 18 yr old virgins

 

[itssoover0457]

0 knowledge about biology

so if i’m fucking every chick i see and i’m shaming women for being whores i’m the reason why they are whores. how can i complain abt women having high body counts if ur the reason she has them in the first place

 

[Frizbreeze]

there is definitelty 18 yr old virgins

"most teens" there's definitely outliers but the average age to lose virginity is 16, so obviously there's people younger and below that age that r virgins.

 

[itssoover0457]

0 knowledge about biology

so biology says it’s ok to fuck several women but you better not have sex with any woman that’s not a virgin. doesn’t make sense. u should be with a woman with a similar lifestyle to yours. that’s like being a sub5 man demanding a stacy gf

 

[ectomorpher]

so biology says it’s ok to fuck several women but you better not have sex with any woman that’s not a virgin. doesn’t make sense. u should be with a woman with a similar lifestyle to yours. that’s like being a sub5 man demanding a stacy gf

Biology says that women are attracted to men with a high body count and this is a fact. what are you trying to say?

 

[yussimania]

if you actually believe this, you are bluepilled on psychology. Both sides should be virgin and as pure as possible going into the first relationship. Virgin is law for men and women. Pair bonding works the same way in both genders.

virgin is law for WOMEN only this is rooted in psychology, biology and history

 

[itssoover0457]

Biology says that women are attracted to men with a high body count and this is a fact. what are you trying to say?

if every guy is taking a woman’s virginity away from her, why do they complain they can’t find virgin women anywhere? they are the reason for women being whores. they fuck them then complain they got fucked

 

[Dankforce1]

No men and women do love in the same way. Not only are women hypergamous, but so are men (until you get a perfect partner).

This is how I know you've never been in a relationship. There is an abundance of evidence that shows men and women love in completely different ways. Men love ideally and women love opportunistically.

If the other logic you said was true, why do prime terrachads still end up in bitter divorces? Why are most divorces, almost all, instigated by women?

JFL we literally live in a world where a guy who was rated best looking man in the world like 5 times, Brad fucking Pitt couldn't keep his wife from leaving him. If you look at any statistics on marriage and divorce for even 2 minutes, it becomes pretty clear that the vast majority of attractive women are monkey branching whores. Women won't love you for your money, you're right, but any attractive woman has enough options that they don't need to settle for a broke guy who just looks good, they're after the full package.

Despite what this forum says, while looks matter most, looks are not all that matter. They just get you in the door. As gay and redpilled as it sounds, if you behave like a beta with no options (pedestalizing and idealizing the girl), she will lose any attraction she had for you instantly.

You have this Disney-pilled idea that once a girl is attracted to you, she always will be. And that's just not based in reality given the amount of options the typical attractive girls has.

 

[VampyrMaxx]

virgin is law for WOMEN only this is rooted in psychology, biology and history

No

 

[VampyrMaxx]

This is how I know you've never been in a relationship. There is an abundance of evidence that shows men and women love in completely different ways. Men love ideally and women love opportunistically.

No proof for that btw

"If the other logic you said was true, why do prime terrachads still end up in bitter divorces? Why are most divorces, almost all, instigated by women?"

Most couples are ugly. And the pair bonding has been destoryed in many girls and boys, thats why you should be a virgin and get a virgin girl, so ypu have the best chance at creating a stable household and relationship.

Its difficult to do though.

JFL we literally live in a world where a guy who was rated best looking man in the world like 5 times, Brad fucking Pitt couldn't keep his wife from leaving him. If you look at any statistics on marriage and divorce for even 2 minutes, it becomes pretty clear that the vast majority of attractive women are monkey branching whores. Women won't love you for your money, you're right, but any attractive woman has enough options that they don't need to settle for a broke guy who just looks good, they're after the full package.

Attractive women become monkey branching whores through society conditioning, not because they want to be. They become whores because after highschool they've had 2 partners. This destroys pair bonding and means most of her relationships will fail.

We don't know the conditions of Brad Pitts relationship to comment or make a judgement.

And yes, girls seem to look for the full package nowadays

Despite what this forum says, while looks matter most, looks are not all that matter. They just get you in the door. As gay and redpilled as it sounds, if you behave like a beta with no options (pedestalizing and idealizing the girl), she will lose any attraction she had for you instantly.

You have this Disney-pilled idea that once a girl is attracted to you, she always will be. And that's just not based in reality given the amount of options the typical attractive girls has.

Looks dont just get you in the door. They create lust throughout the relationship. It creates sexual satisfaction. JFL at thinking once youre in a relationship your looks dont matter anymore. Just because I let an ugly girl into the door, doesnt mean I will learn to sexually desire her.

If you pedastalize the girl or idealize the girl, she wont lose attraction for you, because attraction is created by looks.

You could shove a stick up your ass and she wont lose or gain attraction.

Because an action doesnt change what YOU ARE. Only thing personality does is change compatability within a relationship.

I didnt say that once a girl is attracted to you, she always will be. I didnt claim that.

All Im saying is you have to be a great option for her (Chadlite and virgin), and she should be the same (stacylite and virgin).

That will create a very stable relationship.

You dont even have to be that attractive sometimes. But its definitely more ideal to be more attractive, for your pleasure and hers also.

 

[Dankforce1]

No

Dude please. I'm not trying to be an asshole, but think about what you are saying.

"Every woman's dream is to get swooned by an inexperienced virgin" - said no woman ever.

I'm sorry, but you are coping. You have 0 experience with women. 0 experience dating. 0 experience in relationships.
And you think you have any authority to speak on any of this, as if it is based in reality. You have to have little to no life experience to have such an idealized and simplified view of how all of this works.

Your idea of love and relationships is based on Disney movies bro, I'm sorry, I wish the world and relationships were ideal like you want them to be. You genuinely have no idea how much I WISH relationships worked the way you think that they do - but every man thinks the way you do, until they experience reality.

You need to understand that virginity is not valued at all in a man. Experience is.

Virginity has no value in a man. None. 0. It is not a 'challenge' to stay a virgin as a man. And for most women it has negative value.

A chad, chadlite, normie, does not lose value for sleeping with a woman, in fact, they often gain more in the eyes of both men and women.

Virginity is valued in women because it actually requires self control. Because sex, love and commitment are usually given to them abundantly. The average woman has more options than even the most attractive men could dream of. Men offer love, and all they need to do is accept. This is why virginity is valued in women.

I never once implied looks don't matter once you're in a relationship. Looks matter the most, always, that's literally what I've already said. But they are not the only thing that matter. And you've already agreed with me, they are looking for the complete package.

You've already admitted that the majority of attractive women are exactly as I say. Whether that's because of 'social conditioning' or 'basic human nature', it doesn't matter, because it is reality that you and I have to live in.

This is the reality you are dealing with. There is no virgin stacylite out there, waiting for an ascended .org virgin to sweep them off their feet.

You are smart enough to realize that what you are describing is a fantasy.

 

[nzwv]

This is how I know you've never been in a relationship. There is an abundance of evidence that shows men and women love in completely different ways. Men love ideally and women love opportunistically.

If the other logic you said was true, why do prime terrachads still end up in bitter divorces? Why are most divorces, almost all, instigated by women?

JFL we literally live in a world where a guy who was rated best looking man in the world like 5 times, Brad fucking Pitt couldn't keep his wife from leaving him. If you look at any statistics on marriage and divorce for even 2 minutes, it becomes pretty clear that the vast majority of attractive women are monkey branching whores. Women won't love you for your money, you're right, but any attractive woman has enough options that they don't need to settle for a broke guy who just looks good, they're after the full package.

Despite what this forum says, while looks matter most, looks are not all that matter. They just get you in the door. As gay and redpilled as it sounds, if you behave like a beta with no options (pedestalizing and idealizing the girl), she will lose any attraction she had for you instantly.

You have this Disney-pilled idea that once a girl is attracted to you, she always will be. And that's just not based in reality given the amount of options the typical attractive girls has.

holy this is true, after my first relationship my dumbass tried to keep her by talking it out only for her to tell me she doesn't like me anymore and kept saying some bs reasons , and im like 3 whole psl points above her, truly a blackpill moment. Hard being a sensitive disenypilled lover boy

 

[Dankforce1]

holy this is true, after my first relationship my dumbass tried to keep her by talking it out only for her to tell me she doesn't like me anymore and kept saying some bs reasons , and im like 3 whole psl points above her, truly a blackpill moment. Hard being a sensitive disenypilled lover boy

Every guy is Disney-pilled, until they lose their first love, and realize that the redpill had just as much truth as the blackpill all along.

Looks matter more than anything, but they are never the only thing that matter

 

[VampyrMaxx]

Dude please. I'm not trying to be an asshole, but think about what you are saying.

disney relationships exist for attractive people. Thats all Im trying to make a case for. Don't let the redpill get to your head. When I was redpilled, it distorted reality and I thought it was true, but when I thought about it more, it was all nonsense.

Girls want attractive virgins because they bond better. Same with men.

"Every woman's dream is to get swooned by an inexperienced virgin" - said no woman ever.

Every girls dream is for their first to be a super attractive man, which they have a family with, so yes, a virgin. Everybody likes to be innocent and have an innocent partner, with no previous relationship history. No girl likes to think about their man cheating on them with another women. It threatens instability, same with a man. And no, she will not see you as higher value because you slept with many women, she will see you as higher value if you CAN sleep with many women, meaning it was all about looks. If Jordan Barrett lost his model status and money, would women not see him as high value anymore?

In nature, status comes from looks, height, etc. And you're saying "inexperienced" like its an insult. Experience doesn't matter when it comes to dating. What will the experience do for you? Everyone knows how to stroke their dick inside a girl. And if not, you can learn within the relationship.

If your response to degeneracy (women sleeping around) is to become a degenerate yourself, you are no better than them. You are making the same mistake. You will only cause unhappiness in your own life, all because of the degenerate thoughts of some unaesthetic cuck loser. "All women are sluts", really think about what you are saying.

Your idea of love and relationships is based on Disney movies bro, I'm sorry, I wish the world and relationships were ideal like you want them to be. You genuinely have no idea how much I WISH relationships worked the way you think that they do - but every man thinks the way you do, until they experience reality

They do work that way, but only for attractive people. That's why we have to looksmax. To achieve the truest form of love possible in our situations.

I never once implied looks don't matter once you're in a relationship. Looks matter the most, always, that's literally what I've already said. But they are not the only thing that matter. And you've already agreed with me, they are looking for the complete package.

You've already admitted that the majority of attractive women are exactly as I say. Whether that's because of 'social conditioning' or 'basic human nature', it doesn't matter, because it is reality that you and I have to live in.

The majority of attractive women will sleep around with 2-3 partners during high school so the conditions of the society aren't the best for pair bonding. But if you can find somebody who isn't like that, it would be good.

This is the reality you are dealing with. There is no virgin stacylite out there, waiting for an ascended .org virgin to sweep them off their feet.

You are smart enough to realize that what you are describing is a fantasy.

In this regard, you might be right.

It's a fantasy for us, but a reality for the attractive.

 

[VampyrMaxx]

Dude please. I'm not trying to be an asshole, but think about what you are saying.

Sorry for annoying you btw.

I used to be red pilled and I remember the rage I had, and it wasn't based on anything. It was a blind belief I carried, because I listened to some loser ugly men on the internet, who saw reality the wrong way and thought that women love you through your money.

I want to save as many men from the cold lie as possible.

 

[Dankforce1]

Sorry for annoying you btw.

I used to be red pilled and I remember the rage I had, and it wasn't based on anything. It was a blind belief I carried, because I listened to some loser ugly men on the internet, who saw reality the wrong way and thought that women love you through your money.

I want to save as many men from the cold lie as possible.

You're good. Obviously, I see where you are coming from. I've rotated between the disneypill and the redpill multiple times, but at this point I have seen and experienced too much to deny the reality of the redpill, in conjunction with the blackpill, which obviously is law.

Here is the problem:

I do think you can achieve what you are looking for. But it is exceedingly rare, and only happens when extreme conditions are met (as you pointed out). If you are beyond the age of even 16 or 17, I genuinely believe the conditions for this to exist are no longer plausible. This doesn't even account for the fact that statistically, any relationship that begins before the age of 30 will fail, 90% of the time - whether that ends in a breakup or a divorce.

You are placing your hope on a lottery ticket.

It is the unfortunate result of the morally corrupt and superficial society that we live in.

My problem with your view isn't that I don't think it's ideal. I think it is literal perfection, but also fantasy. It just isn't realistic.

Not even for the most attractive. My point isn't that you are wrong for holding these beliefs, it is that you are setting yourself up for failure, because the vast, vast majority women do not love as we do. Women don't even have a problem admitting this themselves, if it isn't in a negative context.

Relationships between beautiful people end all the time. Beautiful people marry each other - committing themselves for life - in front of everyone they know and care about - and end up divorced the majority of the time. (Again, mostly initiated by women).

Ideal love doesn't exist, because woman do not love ideally like you do, though I think many wish that they could. They take the best they can get, given the conditions - especially if they are still young and attractive. There are women out there who are not like this - but like I said - they are the statistically insignificant - the winning lottery ticket - and they are off the market for guys like us after we're past even 16 or 17, not that most of us would've had a shot during that time anyway.

Like I said, whether that's because of 'social conditioning' or 'basic human nature', it doesn't matter, because it is the reality of the conditions that you and I have to live in. Placing your bets on a mythical unicorn (virgin stacylite) somehow entering into your everyday life, AND finding you attractive is unfortunately not realistic.

My main point with you, is that loving idealistically leads to immense disappointment, because women simply will never love the way we do. Most women treat sex as casually as taking a shit. Most relationship studies back this up, most men's life experience back this up. Ideas like the redpill may not be law like the blackpill, but they would not be so popular if they didn't hold a major basis in reality. Like I said, my point isn't that you are wrong for holding these beliefs, it is that you are setting yourself up for failure in the superficial world we've had to grow up in.

I'm not even arguing that you should be cold, angry, or mean to women. I'm not saying that they deserve to be treated badly. I am saying you have to at acknowledge their nature, and realize that it is not safe to love ideally, in a world where she can easily wake up one day, and decide she no longer loves you, or decides she wants to explore the 1000+ options she access to through dating apps at any given time.

I'm also not arguing we should we should become whores with high body counts. I am just not going to deny the reality that most woman are, as well as that being a virgin is an unattractive quality to most of them. I could have a massive body count, if I wanted, but I don't, because I recognize that I would then be just as degenerate as I claim the average attractive woman is.

Ideally, we would give all of ourselves to another person, and it would be beautiful. Modern conditions will almost ensure you end up getting burned if you do that, because the average person, man included, is so hypergamous, that most relationships cannot survive the way they might've when men and women were interdependent on one another, and didn't have a supercomputer in their pocket.

 

[VampyrMaxx]

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Women and men arent that hypergamous past Stacylite and Chadlite, because after that point you're not losing out on much genetic potential.

I have a Chadlite friend in real life and he is disney pilled everytime I talk to him, its like hes so full of joy.

Looks and pair bonding are all what matter biologically.

And what we're looking for isn't as rare as it's made out to be.

Also, until you can show proof that women and men love each other in different ways, i simply cant believe you.

Just because men can impregnate multiple women, doesn't mean that it is natural for him to do that.

Just because women can monkey branch, doesn't mean its natural.

Women and men who do that have already slept with too many people, so there pair bonding is gone.

I serously cringe at redpill youtubers. They have no logic to what theyre saying biologically.

"To combat degeneracy, become a degenerate yourself"

I do agree with a lot of stuff youre saying. Just not on your view of love