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Note: This is an update of the original thread https://looksmax.org/threads/how-i-...ly-selling-game-cheats.1932271/#post-26992540 that includes some more context as well as information to the prior version.
Introduction
On my time on this forum I have seen a shit ton of threads of people asking how to make money. 99% of the time the first response is to get a job or resell or to sell their soul to Netanyahu for an AIPAC fund. I have never seen a thread about selling video game cheats which, growing up, was the main source of income I had that was able to generate me more than 25k in profit from ages 15–17. Back when I was still selling cheats, I knew providers that were as young as 13 years old. As long as you are professional, loyal, and smart, you will succeed easily in this shit.
Vocabulary
Throughout this guide, I'm gonna use a lot of words that mean something, however someone who isn't well versed in the context of video game cheats will hear my words and think I'm spewing out nonsense, so I'm gonna include all definitions up here. Feel free to ask any questions in this thread if you need help or have to ask me anything.
Anti-Cheat: Software embedded in games designed to detect and flag cheat software, preventing unfair advantages. Common examples include VAC, EAC, and BattlEye.
Developer: The individual or team responsible for coding, maintaining, and updating the cheat software.
Loader: An executable (.exe) file that, when launched, prompts the user to enter a valid key to authenticate and inject the cheat software.
Key: A 16–24 character alphanumeric code used to authenticate access to the cheat. Keys are HWID locked by default and can range in duration from one hour to a lifetime.
Lifetime Key: A one-time purchase key with no expiration date.
HWID Lock: A hardware-based restriction tied to a specific key, ensuring it can only be activated on one machine. This prevents users from sharing a single key across multiple systems.
HWID Reset: The process of unlinking a key from its currently registered hardware, allowing it to be reactivated on a new system. This can typically be requested through a terminal, Discord bot, or directly through the supplier.
Hardware Ban (HWID Ban): A ban tied to your physical machine rather than just an account, making spoofers a necessary precaution.
Temp Spoofer: A spoofing tool that masks your hardware IDs for the duration of a session only. The spoof clears upon restart, requiring it to be run again each session. Most cheats include a temp spoofer that automatically activates prior to injection.
Hard Spoofer: A spoofing tool that permanently rewrites hardware IDs at a deeper system level, persisting across restarts. More reliable protection against hardware bans but carries a higher risk of system instability if poorly coded. Note that a hard spoofer will require an HWID reset as it alters the same serial numbers used to determine the HWID lock.
Undetected (UD): Status indicating the cheat is currently operational without being flagged by anti-cheat software.
Downtime: A period during which a cheat is temporarily unavailable, typically following a detection event or game update.
Panel: A web-based dashboard provided by a developer to their resellers, used to generate and manage keys independently without needing to contact the developer directly. Through a panel, a reseller can generate keys of varying durations on demand, monitor active keys and expiration dates, and reset HWIDs on behalf of customers. Panels are purchased usually for between 300-1500 dollars, an important note however is that a majority of cheats that you can buy a panel for are likely shit, I will cover why they are shit later.
DMA Card: A physical hardware device that plugs into a secondary PC via PCIe slot, used to read and write memory from a target PC over a direct memory access connection. Because the cheat is processed on a separate machine entirely, it is virtually invisible to anti-cheat software running on the target system.
DMA Cheat: A cheat that operates through a DMA card rather than traditional software injection. Because it reads and writes game memory externally from a second PC, it bypasses most anti-cheat detection methods entirely, making it one of the most undetectable and expensive cheat solutions available. Requires a secondary PC and a DMA card to operate, significantly raising the hardware barrier to entry compared to conventional cheats.
Common Misconceptions
First of all, when you say that you "sell video game cheats," people will immediately jump to the conclusion that you are either some coding prodigy or a guy who knows how to do business and has a lot of money, but the truth is that most video game cheat providers are simply resellers. This is because simply buying and selling is beneficial for both the vendor as well as the developer for a variety of reasons.
For starters, most developers will never directly sell the cheat to customers; they will only sell to distributors. Think of it like this: the developer is a farm. They produce 1000 pounds of ground beef a day, but they don't wanna go sell a pound and a half at a time, so they instead sell it all to your local supermarket at a discounted rate where they sell it to you at a normal rate.
Selling cheats is just like this. You will be taking keys that the developer mass produces for free, then someone will buy them for probably 10% of what they charge on their website. Then, as a reseller, you will be able to buy them for 60–75% off of what the person buying them is selling the keys for. The reason that you are not buying directly from the developer is due to the fact that you are, as of now, a nobody. When you grow a community and want to expand, then you should look into getting into direct contact with a developer. However, this guide is only for people who are looking to start out.
Understanding How Cheats Work
For every game, the way cheats work is different, so I highly recommend you get familiar with the cheat you plan on selling prior to actually selling it—understand how it works, basic bug fixes, etc. Most cheats work by having you open up the loader BEFORE you open the game. When the loader is open, you then enter your personalized key. Keep in mind that to customers you are selling a key, not the loader; without the key the cheat loader is useless. When buying, customers should have an option in the duration of the key as well as different prices. For me, I prefer to have options for 1 day, 1 week, 1 month, then either 1 year or lifetime.
After the user puts their key in the loader, it will take between 10–60 seconds for the cheat to finish loading and the menu to either close or prompt you to open the game. Depending on the cheat, you will either wait for an auto-injection into the game’s memory or press a hotkey at a certain part of the game. Cheats work by altering or reading the game’s memory; this is stored in your system’s RAM as it is meant to only process realtime data fast rather than on something like a SSD or Hard Drive.
There are 3 types of cheats that are commonly found in every game’s cheating community. The first is internal cheats. These work by actually entering the game’s memory to directly read and alter values, resulting in changes within the game. This is the most risky and often the cheapest option for cheats when it comes to video game cheats. Internal cheats are a lot simpler to develop, so they are a lot more commonly manufactured. It is safe to assume that most cheats are internal unless explicitly stated otherwise, as the other 2 types of cheats are often sold at a premium rate.
A good rule of thumb and a good tip is that when selling internal cheats, make it clear to the customer that they should not be used on any accounts that they care about simply due to the fact that it is easier for the game’s anticheat to detect, albeit difficult.
The second option is external cheats. They work by reading the game’s memory in much less invasive ways, making it more difficult for the anticheat to even acknowledge their existence. External cheats often have significantly less features compared to internal cheats, but for good reason. External cheats are the golden standard for people who want to cheat on their computer without going overboard on their budget. They provide a good amount of safety to the user so long as they aren’t crazy with it.
Additionally, external cheats are automatically streamproof (at least the good/real ones are), meaning that streamers who use things like ESP don’t have it show when they stream their display on Twitch and often even on Discord. A drawback to this, however, is that external cheats often have a premium price simply because you are paying more for the assurance that it is safe. This means that purchasing keys for external cheats will cost you more, but you are able to charge a ridiculous premium.
Additionally, developers for external cheats are often knowledgeable in the fact that they have a very valuable product. They understand that they are able to charge a much higher cost and have higher standards for their resellers compared to internal cheat providers simply due to all the benefits listed above.
The last type of cheat that you likely hear online is called a DMA cheat. A DMA cheat works by using a DMA card (Direct Memory Access). The reason this is last is because it is the most resource intensive in the sense that it requires an entire second computer, as well as an extra 200–500 dollars in materials to set up. DMA cheats are above the gold standard; modern gaming companies still struggle with DMA cheaters to this day simply due to the fact that it is impossible to detect.
DMA cheats have pretty similar features as external cheats and are perfectly safe to use on main accounts as long as the user is smart and responsible. Additionally, being regarded as the safest option of cheat allows for DMA cheats to be in the most expensive category. Due to the fact that you already need hundreds of dollars in hardware, people looking to buy DMA cheats don’t usually have to worry about the cost of cheats.
It is important to acknowledge that I personally think that selling DMA cheats is not worth your time, but others may say otherwise. In the 2 years I ran my business, I had exactly 3 members ask for DMA cheats, so it’s pretty much near impossible to consistently sell them to people unless you are pulling in thousands of members daily.
Nearly all internal cheats include a built-in spoofer. This works to temporarily change your computer’s hardware serial numbers, making it so that if you get banned for cheating while playing, your computer is not HWID banned. Sometimes when you have something go wrong or you use a cheat without a spoofer, getting HWID banned is something that you will have to deal with.
Fortunately, there is a workaround: something called a permanent spoofer. The spoofer that is integrated into cheats is often referred to as a temp or soft spoofer, meaning that it will only last until you restart your computer. A permanent spoofer will do as the name insists and change your serial info forever. This is a good way to get out of being banned in games that you can’t spoof for.
An example of this is Valorant. The game’s anticheat is so good that you can’t use a spoofer, so players must use external cheats, but if they get caught hacking they must go and use a permanent spoofer. A spoofer is often sold as a one-time spoof, meaning that if you fuck up you are forced to buy it again.
The last base I want to touch on is a cheat panel. This is, in my opinion, one of the biggest scams in the cheat industry that shitty developers use all the time to hustle little kids for quick money every 3 months. Cheat panels are basically access to either a bot or a website that allows you to generate an infinite amount of keys that you can directly sell to your customers.
This sounds great on paper until you realise the drawbacks that come alongside it that you wouldn’t assume at first glance. The main drawback is that your developer will no longer have an incentive to work on the cheat because all the money he could have made by selling you keys over the span of months was just given to him in a lump sum. Although they say nothing will change in the quality, I have seen people get conned like that all the time.
Eventually, the developer will simply get too lazy or busy to work on his cheat since it’s not funding his life anymore, and you will eventually have a panel that is to some shitty ass cheat that is likely detected or gets blown out of the water by your competition.
Overall, I don’t recommend that you buy a panel, and if you want to take it a step further I recommend you stay away from reselling any cheat that the person selling you keys has a panel to unless they are the developer.
Step 1: Make a Discord Server
COST: $0-$35
Having a community is one of the best ways to grow as a provider. A lot of providers are able to grow simply due to the fact that they have a strong internal community that allows them to have more people join the server to socialize and talk with each other.
Alongside this, most people who buy cheats are lonely as they can't play with their friends and risk getting banned with them, or even worse, get them banned. So they play with people in your server to cheat alongside them and win a shit ton of games.
A server works wonders at automating a lot of tasks. You can make product description channels, set up ticket bots, or a public guides channel so that when people need help you simply send them to the channel with a guide.
You will want to make your server look professional, not like some shit that your friends had for the 2-week Minecraft phase, something that actually makes someone looking at your server not think it's a complete scam.
Additionally, roles are important. Things like staff, support, moderators, bots, etc., all need roles as it shows that you put time into your server. It is important to acknowledge that because you are on the internet selling something, you need to work hard to make sure that people looking at your shit have no reason to think that it's a scam.
Additionally, you want to use webhooks. There are guides on YouTube, but the purpose of them is to once again MAKE YOUR MESSAGES PROFESSIONAL.
I will link a few examples below that demonstrate good channel, role, and webhook structure that I took from random servers.
Additionally, your servers MUST have a vouches section. This works to have your existing or older customers either type a good review or attach pictures of the products working to ensure that new customers see it as more legit, considering that there are reviews supporting what they see you say.
A good tip I have is try to copy the best features of other reselling servers that you see as they likely learned from their mistakes, which you will hopefully not have to. Additionally, look into what you can have bots do to help automate and manage people automatically.
Step 2: Get Moderators / Support
COST: $0-$100 per Week
Since selling cheats is something that happens 24/7, it is important to have people that you can trust to help people with any issues or problems they have with purchasing during the hours where you cannot respond. This is why you need a good staff / moderation team.
You can look into some of your friends or get people from other servers that you know and trust to not go behind your back for some money.
I personally started my server out with someone who lived on the opposite side of the world from me, which meant that one of us would be on at all hours of the day.
Over time you will have to start paying them as they will have a more demanding workload. When you get to that point I recommend you fire all your staff and get a few Indians online to work for around 25 dollars a week. They will be able to serve the members of your server 24/7 for ridiculously cheap, allowing full automation of your operations.
It is important that you trust whoever you put in power. If you give the wrong person permissions, they can nuke your server and take all your customers in a night, and trust me, it happens a lot more than you think. So it is vital that you make sure to restrict moderation permissions to only kick and mute members—no banning and definitely no permission to authorize bots.
Step 3: Provider
COST: $0-$250
Now it's time to actually get some stock or be an incel who only buys stock when there's an active order. The best way to find a provider is to simply look around in different Discord servers for whatever cheat you want to sell. In 5 minutes of digging around random servers I found multiple different people asking for people to resell their cheats.
You will apply to resell for them where, depending on who it is, you will either get access to a discounted website or a discount code that only you can use for buying cheats. It is important that you don't share it with people as you don't want to ruin your reputation because a shitty reputation is what gets you exiled from the cheating community.
This part usually takes no longer than a day. If you get this far and you really need help let me know by responding to this thread and I'll get back to you.
Step 4: Payment / Payment Processor
COST: $0-$55
This is the tricky part where a lot of providers either quit before they even start or limit themselves from ever making big money. When you start off you want to be able to accept at least 3 forms of payment, preferably PayPal, Cash App, or Zelle/Venmo.
You can take these payments by having customers open a ticket, have them send you their info, then after receiving your money you give them the key. However, as you expand, you will need a payment processor that will be able to accept credit/debit cards. This is where Stripe, Square, or even a PayPal BUSINESS ACCOUNT comes into play.
These 3 allow you to take a credit or debit card for payment and open the door to a bunch of new customers, simply because most people buying cheats are under 18 and it's difficult to convince your parents that something that doesn't accept a card isn't a scam.
It is at this point that people stop being so weary about whether you have a clean reputation because by the time you need a payment processor, you should have at least 200–300 vouches as well as around 500–1000 members.
The main difficulty about this is that if you are under 18 you will either have to get a parent to do this for you or pay a homeless crack addict on the street to verify your account for you as they all require a 3D face scan that you can't really BS, although a PayPal business account may not, so look into that for sure.
Step 5: Social Media
COST: $50-$250 per Week
This is also a pretty rough one if I'm being honest. The first month of this shit is gonna suck because you are gonna have to either start doing social media yourself to promote your cheats or tools, hire someone who already has a platform to do it for you, or both.
When I started selling cheats I didn't need social media for 2 months because existing customers would share with their friends as well as buy themselves stuff after their keys would expire. As you can expect, if you want to expand this is not enough.
You need to use social media to your advantage. One of the best methods is using something like TikTok to post videos of you cheating and getting interaction bait in the comments which drives up views.
Additionally, if you are eligible, going live while cheating is amazing as it helps you amass a shit ton of viewers in a short amount of time.
What I would do is record myself cheating ridiculously obvious for 2 hours, cut it up into an hour-long video of me cheating in like 9 different matches, put it on loop with the words "gaming chair link in my bio" on the top, and play it on stream for hours on end looping, and it would work.
At my peak I was getting around 20 members every hour, of which maybe 3–7 would buy something.
Definitely works if you know how to properly do it, but considering most of you guys on this site are retarded I doubt it.
If you want to go down the route of paying creators to promote you, you have to reach out first via either TikTok or a business email they have. If they have a set rate don't negotiate as they probably won't budge. If they don't know, go low and work your way up.
This shit honestly deserves a whole thread so truthfully I don't wanna yap about it too much. Feel free to ask SPECIFIC questions in this thread.
Step 6: Website
COST: $50-$250
First of all, most people don't get to this step because they are either lazy, realized that this isn't as easy as it sounds, or simply decided working minimum wage looks better on a resume. If you ACTUALLY make it here I want to say congratulations.
Now you get to see your hard work turn into ACTUAL passive income.
A website is essential to making your income passive as you no longer need to be online to make a sale. You can now be sleeping and be churning out money.
This is because a proper website works to have a customer pay, get a key sent to their email alongside a loader and a guide that they can use to get the cheat running and working all by itself.
I personally recommend Sellauth, however there are many options. I don't know if I'm allowed to link some good-looking websites that I have found so I'll attach some images of good-looking websites that you can use as an inspiration.
An important note is that this is not where you want to cheap out. A shitty website looks extremely fishy.
You don't have to know how to code to make a good website, but you have to use common sense as well as compare yourself to your competition.
I doubt any of you will get this far but once again, if you have any questions respond to this thread and I will get to you with help.
BONUS TIPS
High Quality GFX
I'm sure that at least some of you have noticed that throughout this entire thread all of the images include high-quality GFX work for things like logos, banners, websites, etc. The GFX is made either by commission or by yourself. Truthfully speaking, most of you are not graphic designers, so I recommend going to get it commissioned. You can go on Fiverr or wherever to get it commissioned. I'll attach an image of a profile of a guy you can reach out to who makes GFX work for pretty cheap. I have no affiliation with him whatsoever, but he does create a lot of GFX work for cheat providers, so it's only fair that I let you guys know about his existence.
Level 3 Discord Server
You can pay many different people on the internet to use bots to get your Discord server to Level 3. The main reason why you would even want this is so that you can use Discord’s server customization features to their maximum potential. Additionally, you will get a server vanity link, which is a custom URL that you get to make that allows you to have a simple link that is easy to remember off the top of your head.
Additionally, when plastering it all over your website, profile, social media, etc., having an actual word or name looks a lot better than random letters and numbers in the link. This is a tiny thing but, once again, this is what I did, and I believe it is a part of the professionalism aspect that helps to make a store look more appealing to a buyer.
Don't Scam People
I know that this sounds very obvious and honestly you can go on without reading what I’m about to say and be fine, but seriously, scamming people will do you more harm than good. When scamming people, so many things can go wrong. An example of this is how if someone pays you with their credit card via Stripe and you scam them, they can call their bank and say that they were scammed and not only get their money back but also put you under an investigation and risk having your Stripe account permanently shut down.
Additionally, any competitors will gladly use any proof of scamming to defame you and take all of your clients. I have done it and I have made thousands of dollars off of simply telling people in someone’s server that they are scammers, with proof of course.
Start Fresh
Most people would be shocked by how many people I see get exposed or leaked within their first week of selling cheats for stupid shit. Before you start creating a server, first look at your Discord account as well as anything associated with it. For example, I bet most of you here didn’t know that verification bots like RestoreCord or Guild Restore are able to track your IP address and the e-mail address associated with your Discord account when you verify with their bot. That is given straight to the server owner, meaning that simply verifying in a server will get you doxxed.
This is why I recommend having 2 separate accounts. The first account is one that you are going to buy online that has a join date of at least 2022 on Discord. This is to ensure that when people check your Discord account it’s not sketchy and people don’t think that you made an account just to make a server to scam them. This account will be your main account to run servers, join calls, and manage everything important.
The second account will be an alternate account used to verify in random servers as well as look through different channels, talk to other server owners, and anything that you either can’t do because you aren’t verified or don’t want other people knowing. It is important that you use an alternate e-mail for both of these accounts and to also ensure that there isn’t a single DM or connection between the 2 accounts. Truthfully, you should not have your second account even be in the same servers as your primary.
Lastly, make sure that you are careful when you screenshare in voice channels so you don’t accidentally share anything. Don’t even have IRL friends call you your real name in the server because the second you fuck up, people are going to be digging as hard as they can to find even the slightest bit of information to share about you with the whole world.
I have actually witnessed people use others’ doxes as leverage in negotiating deals. You would be surprised at the lengths some people would go to “win.”
Copy Others
I'm sure that you have noticed that in my example pictures they all have a similar type of writing in the sense that they seem to be almost all the same. This is because, in reality, nobody is actually typing up all their descriptions and rules. This is why copying other servers’ information, formats, websites, etc. is a proven method. It is important, however, that you don’t copy exactly, because this will simply ruin your reputation as a reputable vendor.
So if you need help with how to do something or you don’t know where to move forward, look at other providers’ servers and what they have to offer. I also want to mention that all of my example images were taken from random cheat servers that I found on Discord in the span of 10 minutes, so it shouldn’t be too hard once you get the hang of it and know where to look.
Conclusion
Knowing that most of you guys are retards who will stay poor and never use this I doubt that this will reach out to too many of you, but if you are serious about this it is important to acknowledge that depending on how fast you grow or what circumstances you may face, you might have a different outline that you have to follow and that's perfectly fine. Or if you can't keep up with demand maybe you do the steps in a different process. Honestly I don't care. But don't forget to have fun, because honestly speaking, in those 2 years that I sold cheats, I had some of the most fun that I did in my whole life.
Credit to ChatGPT and Claude for helping me fix all my grammar and spelling mistakes as well
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Introduction
On my time on this forum I have seen a shit ton of threads of people asking how to make money. 99% of the time the first response is to get a job or resell or to sell their soul to Netanyahu for an AIPAC fund. I have never seen a thread about selling video game cheats which, growing up, was the main source of income I had that was able to generate me more than 25k in profit from ages 15–17. Back when I was still selling cheats, I knew providers that were as young as 13 years old. As long as you are professional, loyal, and smart, you will succeed easily in this shit.
Vocabulary
Throughout this guide, I'm gonna use a lot of words that mean something, however someone who isn't well versed in the context of video game cheats will hear my words and think I'm spewing out nonsense, so I'm gonna include all definitions up here. Feel free to ask any questions in this thread if you need help or have to ask me anything.
Anti-Cheat: Software embedded in games designed to detect and flag cheat software, preventing unfair advantages. Common examples include VAC, EAC, and BattlEye.
Developer: The individual or team responsible for coding, maintaining, and updating the cheat software.
Loader: An executable (.exe) file that, when launched, prompts the user to enter a valid key to authenticate and inject the cheat software.
Key: A 16–24 character alphanumeric code used to authenticate access to the cheat. Keys are HWID locked by default and can range in duration from one hour to a lifetime.
Lifetime Key: A one-time purchase key with no expiration date.
HWID Lock: A hardware-based restriction tied to a specific key, ensuring it can only be activated on one machine. This prevents users from sharing a single key across multiple systems.
HWID Reset: The process of unlinking a key from its currently registered hardware, allowing it to be reactivated on a new system. This can typically be requested through a terminal, Discord bot, or directly through the supplier.
Hardware Ban (HWID Ban): A ban tied to your physical machine rather than just an account, making spoofers a necessary precaution.
Temp Spoofer: A spoofing tool that masks your hardware IDs for the duration of a session only. The spoof clears upon restart, requiring it to be run again each session. Most cheats include a temp spoofer that automatically activates prior to injection.
Hard Spoofer: A spoofing tool that permanently rewrites hardware IDs at a deeper system level, persisting across restarts. More reliable protection against hardware bans but carries a higher risk of system instability if poorly coded. Note that a hard spoofer will require an HWID reset as it alters the same serial numbers used to determine the HWID lock.
Undetected (UD): Status indicating the cheat is currently operational without being flagged by anti-cheat software.
Downtime: A period during which a cheat is temporarily unavailable, typically following a detection event or game update.
Panel: A web-based dashboard provided by a developer to their resellers, used to generate and manage keys independently without needing to contact the developer directly. Through a panel, a reseller can generate keys of varying durations on demand, monitor active keys and expiration dates, and reset HWIDs on behalf of customers. Panels are purchased usually for between 300-1500 dollars, an important note however is that a majority of cheats that you can buy a panel for are likely shit, I will cover why they are shit later.
DMA Card: A physical hardware device that plugs into a secondary PC via PCIe slot, used to read and write memory from a target PC over a direct memory access connection. Because the cheat is processed on a separate machine entirely, it is virtually invisible to anti-cheat software running on the target system.
DMA Cheat: A cheat that operates through a DMA card rather than traditional software injection. Because it reads and writes game memory externally from a second PC, it bypasses most anti-cheat detection methods entirely, making it one of the most undetectable and expensive cheat solutions available. Requires a secondary PC and a DMA card to operate, significantly raising the hardware barrier to entry compared to conventional cheats.
Common Misconceptions
First of all, when you say that you "sell video game cheats," people will immediately jump to the conclusion that you are either some coding prodigy or a guy who knows how to do business and has a lot of money, but the truth is that most video game cheat providers are simply resellers. This is because simply buying and selling is beneficial for both the vendor as well as the developer for a variety of reasons.
For starters, most developers will never directly sell the cheat to customers; they will only sell to distributors. Think of it like this: the developer is a farm. They produce 1000 pounds of ground beef a day, but they don't wanna go sell a pound and a half at a time, so they instead sell it all to your local supermarket at a discounted rate where they sell it to you at a normal rate.
Selling cheats is just like this. You will be taking keys that the developer mass produces for free, then someone will buy them for probably 10% of what they charge on their website. Then, as a reseller, you will be able to buy them for 60–75% off of what the person buying them is selling the keys for. The reason that you are not buying directly from the developer is due to the fact that you are, as of now, a nobody. When you grow a community and want to expand, then you should look into getting into direct contact with a developer. However, this guide is only for people who are looking to start out.
Understanding How Cheats Work
For every game, the way cheats work is different, so I highly recommend you get familiar with the cheat you plan on selling prior to actually selling it—understand how it works, basic bug fixes, etc. Most cheats work by having you open up the loader BEFORE you open the game. When the loader is open, you then enter your personalized key. Keep in mind that to customers you are selling a key, not the loader; without the key the cheat loader is useless. When buying, customers should have an option in the duration of the key as well as different prices. For me, I prefer to have options for 1 day, 1 week, 1 month, then either 1 year or lifetime.
After the user puts their key in the loader, it will take between 10–60 seconds for the cheat to finish loading and the menu to either close or prompt you to open the game. Depending on the cheat, you will either wait for an auto-injection into the game’s memory or press a hotkey at a certain part of the game. Cheats work by altering or reading the game’s memory; this is stored in your system’s RAM as it is meant to only process realtime data fast rather than on something like a SSD or Hard Drive.
There are 3 types of cheats that are commonly found in every game’s cheating community. The first is internal cheats. These work by actually entering the game’s memory to directly read and alter values, resulting in changes within the game. This is the most risky and often the cheapest option for cheats when it comes to video game cheats. Internal cheats are a lot simpler to develop, so they are a lot more commonly manufactured. It is safe to assume that most cheats are internal unless explicitly stated otherwise, as the other 2 types of cheats are often sold at a premium rate.
A good rule of thumb and a good tip is that when selling internal cheats, make it clear to the customer that they should not be used on any accounts that they care about simply due to the fact that it is easier for the game’s anticheat to detect, albeit difficult.
The second option is external cheats. They work by reading the game’s memory in much less invasive ways, making it more difficult for the anticheat to even acknowledge their existence. External cheats often have significantly less features compared to internal cheats, but for good reason. External cheats are the golden standard for people who want to cheat on their computer without going overboard on their budget. They provide a good amount of safety to the user so long as they aren’t crazy with it.
Additionally, external cheats are automatically streamproof (at least the good/real ones are), meaning that streamers who use things like ESP don’t have it show when they stream their display on Twitch and often even on Discord. A drawback to this, however, is that external cheats often have a premium price simply because you are paying more for the assurance that it is safe. This means that purchasing keys for external cheats will cost you more, but you are able to charge a ridiculous premium.
Additionally, developers for external cheats are often knowledgeable in the fact that they have a very valuable product. They understand that they are able to charge a much higher cost and have higher standards for their resellers compared to internal cheat providers simply due to all the benefits listed above.
The last type of cheat that you likely hear online is called a DMA cheat. A DMA cheat works by using a DMA card (Direct Memory Access). The reason this is last is because it is the most resource intensive in the sense that it requires an entire second computer, as well as an extra 200–500 dollars in materials to set up. DMA cheats are above the gold standard; modern gaming companies still struggle with DMA cheaters to this day simply due to the fact that it is impossible to detect.
DMA cheats have pretty similar features as external cheats and are perfectly safe to use on main accounts as long as the user is smart and responsible. Additionally, being regarded as the safest option of cheat allows for DMA cheats to be in the most expensive category. Due to the fact that you already need hundreds of dollars in hardware, people looking to buy DMA cheats don’t usually have to worry about the cost of cheats.
It is important to acknowledge that I personally think that selling DMA cheats is not worth your time, but others may say otherwise. In the 2 years I ran my business, I had exactly 3 members ask for DMA cheats, so it’s pretty much near impossible to consistently sell them to people unless you are pulling in thousands of members daily.
Nearly all internal cheats include a built-in spoofer. This works to temporarily change your computer’s hardware serial numbers, making it so that if you get banned for cheating while playing, your computer is not HWID banned. Sometimes when you have something go wrong or you use a cheat without a spoofer, getting HWID banned is something that you will have to deal with.
Fortunately, there is a workaround: something called a permanent spoofer. The spoofer that is integrated into cheats is often referred to as a temp or soft spoofer, meaning that it will only last until you restart your computer. A permanent spoofer will do as the name insists and change your serial info forever. This is a good way to get out of being banned in games that you can’t spoof for.
An example of this is Valorant. The game’s anticheat is so good that you can’t use a spoofer, so players must use external cheats, but if they get caught hacking they must go and use a permanent spoofer. A spoofer is often sold as a one-time spoof, meaning that if you fuck up you are forced to buy it again.
The last base I want to touch on is a cheat panel. This is, in my opinion, one of the biggest scams in the cheat industry that shitty developers use all the time to hustle little kids for quick money every 3 months. Cheat panels are basically access to either a bot or a website that allows you to generate an infinite amount of keys that you can directly sell to your customers.
This sounds great on paper until you realise the drawbacks that come alongside it that you wouldn’t assume at first glance. The main drawback is that your developer will no longer have an incentive to work on the cheat because all the money he could have made by selling you keys over the span of months was just given to him in a lump sum. Although they say nothing will change in the quality, I have seen people get conned like that all the time.
Eventually, the developer will simply get too lazy or busy to work on his cheat since it’s not funding his life anymore, and you will eventually have a panel that is to some shitty ass cheat that is likely detected or gets blown out of the water by your competition.
Overall, I don’t recommend that you buy a panel, and if you want to take it a step further I recommend you stay away from reselling any cheat that the person selling you keys has a panel to unless they are the developer.
Step 1: Make a Discord Server
COST: $0-$35
Having a community is one of the best ways to grow as a provider. A lot of providers are able to grow simply due to the fact that they have a strong internal community that allows them to have more people join the server to socialize and talk with each other.
Alongside this, most people who buy cheats are lonely as they can't play with their friends and risk getting banned with them, or even worse, get them banned. So they play with people in your server to cheat alongside them and win a shit ton of games.
A server works wonders at automating a lot of tasks. You can make product description channels, set up ticket bots, or a public guides channel so that when people need help you simply send them to the channel with a guide.
You will want to make your server look professional, not like some shit that your friends had for the 2-week Minecraft phase, something that actually makes someone looking at your server not think it's a complete scam.
Additionally, roles are important. Things like staff, support, moderators, bots, etc., all need roles as it shows that you put time into your server. It is important to acknowledge that because you are on the internet selling something, you need to work hard to make sure that people looking at your shit have no reason to think that it's a scam.
Additionally, you want to use webhooks. There are guides on YouTube, but the purpose of them is to once again MAKE YOUR MESSAGES PROFESSIONAL.
I will link a few examples below that demonstrate good channel, role, and webhook structure that I took from random servers.
Additionally, your servers MUST have a vouches section. This works to have your existing or older customers either type a good review or attach pictures of the products working to ensure that new customers see it as more legit, considering that there are reviews supporting what they see you say.
A good tip I have is try to copy the best features of other reselling servers that you see as they likely learned from their mistakes, which you will hopefully not have to. Additionally, look into what you can have bots do to help automate and manage people automatically.
Step 2: Get Moderators / Support
COST: $0-$100 per Week
Since selling cheats is something that happens 24/7, it is important to have people that you can trust to help people with any issues or problems they have with purchasing during the hours where you cannot respond. This is why you need a good staff / moderation team.
You can look into some of your friends or get people from other servers that you know and trust to not go behind your back for some money.
I personally started my server out with someone who lived on the opposite side of the world from me, which meant that one of us would be on at all hours of the day.
Over time you will have to start paying them as they will have a more demanding workload. When you get to that point I recommend you fire all your staff and get a few Indians online to work for around 25 dollars a week. They will be able to serve the members of your server 24/7 for ridiculously cheap, allowing full automation of your operations.
It is important that you trust whoever you put in power. If you give the wrong person permissions, they can nuke your server and take all your customers in a night, and trust me, it happens a lot more than you think. So it is vital that you make sure to restrict moderation permissions to only kick and mute members—no banning and definitely no permission to authorize bots.
Step 3: Provider
COST: $0-$250
Now it's time to actually get some stock or be an incel who only buys stock when there's an active order. The best way to find a provider is to simply look around in different Discord servers for whatever cheat you want to sell. In 5 minutes of digging around random servers I found multiple different people asking for people to resell their cheats.
You will apply to resell for them where, depending on who it is, you will either get access to a discounted website or a discount code that only you can use for buying cheats. It is important that you don't share it with people as you don't want to ruin your reputation because a shitty reputation is what gets you exiled from the cheating community.
This part usually takes no longer than a day. If you get this far and you really need help let me know by responding to this thread and I'll get back to you.
Step 4: Payment / Payment Processor
COST: $0-$55
This is the tricky part where a lot of providers either quit before they even start or limit themselves from ever making big money. When you start off you want to be able to accept at least 3 forms of payment, preferably PayPal, Cash App, or Zelle/Venmo.
You can take these payments by having customers open a ticket, have them send you their info, then after receiving your money you give them the key. However, as you expand, you will need a payment processor that will be able to accept credit/debit cards. This is where Stripe, Square, or even a PayPal BUSINESS ACCOUNT comes into play.
These 3 allow you to take a credit or debit card for payment and open the door to a bunch of new customers, simply because most people buying cheats are under 18 and it's difficult to convince your parents that something that doesn't accept a card isn't a scam.
It is at this point that people stop being so weary about whether you have a clean reputation because by the time you need a payment processor, you should have at least 200–300 vouches as well as around 500–1000 members.
The main difficulty about this is that if you are under 18 you will either have to get a parent to do this for you or pay a homeless crack addict on the street to verify your account for you as they all require a 3D face scan that you can't really BS, although a PayPal business account may not, so look into that for sure.
Step 5: Social Media
COST: $50-$250 per Week
This is also a pretty rough one if I'm being honest. The first month of this shit is gonna suck because you are gonna have to either start doing social media yourself to promote your cheats or tools, hire someone who already has a platform to do it for you, or both.
When I started selling cheats I didn't need social media for 2 months because existing customers would share with their friends as well as buy themselves stuff after their keys would expire. As you can expect, if you want to expand this is not enough.
You need to use social media to your advantage. One of the best methods is using something like TikTok to post videos of you cheating and getting interaction bait in the comments which drives up views.
Additionally, if you are eligible, going live while cheating is amazing as it helps you amass a shit ton of viewers in a short amount of time.
What I would do is record myself cheating ridiculously obvious for 2 hours, cut it up into an hour-long video of me cheating in like 9 different matches, put it on loop with the words "gaming chair link in my bio" on the top, and play it on stream for hours on end looping, and it would work.
At my peak I was getting around 20 members every hour, of which maybe 3–7 would buy something.
Definitely works if you know how to properly do it, but considering most of you guys on this site are retarded I doubt it.
If you want to go down the route of paying creators to promote you, you have to reach out first via either TikTok or a business email they have. If they have a set rate don't negotiate as they probably won't budge. If they don't know, go low and work your way up.
This shit honestly deserves a whole thread so truthfully I don't wanna yap about it too much. Feel free to ask SPECIFIC questions in this thread.
Step 6: Website
COST: $50-$250
First of all, most people don't get to this step because they are either lazy, realized that this isn't as easy as it sounds, or simply decided working minimum wage looks better on a resume. If you ACTUALLY make it here I want to say congratulations.
Now you get to see your hard work turn into ACTUAL passive income.
A website is essential to making your income passive as you no longer need to be online to make a sale. You can now be sleeping and be churning out money.
This is because a proper website works to have a customer pay, get a key sent to their email alongside a loader and a guide that they can use to get the cheat running and working all by itself.
I personally recommend Sellauth, however there are many options. I don't know if I'm allowed to link some good-looking websites that I have found so I'll attach some images of good-looking websites that you can use as an inspiration.
An important note is that this is not where you want to cheap out. A shitty website looks extremely fishy.
You don't have to know how to code to make a good website, but you have to use common sense as well as compare yourself to your competition.
I doubt any of you will get this far but once again, if you have any questions respond to this thread and I will get to you with help.
BONUS TIPS
High Quality GFX
I'm sure that at least some of you have noticed that throughout this entire thread all of the images include high-quality GFX work for things like logos, banners, websites, etc. The GFX is made either by commission or by yourself. Truthfully speaking, most of you are not graphic designers, so I recommend going to get it commissioned. You can go on Fiverr or wherever to get it commissioned. I'll attach an image of a profile of a guy you can reach out to who makes GFX work for pretty cheap. I have no affiliation with him whatsoever, but he does create a lot of GFX work for cheat providers, so it's only fair that I let you guys know about his existence.
Level 3 Discord Server
You can pay many different people on the internet to use bots to get your Discord server to Level 3. The main reason why you would even want this is so that you can use Discord’s server customization features to their maximum potential. Additionally, you will get a server vanity link, which is a custom URL that you get to make that allows you to have a simple link that is easy to remember off the top of your head.
Additionally, when plastering it all over your website, profile, social media, etc., having an actual word or name looks a lot better than random letters and numbers in the link. This is a tiny thing but, once again, this is what I did, and I believe it is a part of the professionalism aspect that helps to make a store look more appealing to a buyer.
Don't Scam People
I know that this sounds very obvious and honestly you can go on without reading what I’m about to say and be fine, but seriously, scamming people will do you more harm than good. When scamming people, so many things can go wrong. An example of this is how if someone pays you with their credit card via Stripe and you scam them, they can call their bank and say that they were scammed and not only get their money back but also put you under an investigation and risk having your Stripe account permanently shut down.
Additionally, any competitors will gladly use any proof of scamming to defame you and take all of your clients. I have done it and I have made thousands of dollars off of simply telling people in someone’s server that they are scammers, with proof of course.
Start Fresh
Most people would be shocked by how many people I see get exposed or leaked within their first week of selling cheats for stupid shit. Before you start creating a server, first look at your Discord account as well as anything associated with it. For example, I bet most of you here didn’t know that verification bots like RestoreCord or Guild Restore are able to track your IP address and the e-mail address associated with your Discord account when you verify with their bot. That is given straight to the server owner, meaning that simply verifying in a server will get you doxxed.
This is why I recommend having 2 separate accounts. The first account is one that you are going to buy online that has a join date of at least 2022 on Discord. This is to ensure that when people check your Discord account it’s not sketchy and people don’t think that you made an account just to make a server to scam them. This account will be your main account to run servers, join calls, and manage everything important.
The second account will be an alternate account used to verify in random servers as well as look through different channels, talk to other server owners, and anything that you either can’t do because you aren’t verified or don’t want other people knowing. It is important that you use an alternate e-mail for both of these accounts and to also ensure that there isn’t a single DM or connection between the 2 accounts. Truthfully, you should not have your second account even be in the same servers as your primary.
Lastly, make sure that you are careful when you screenshare in voice channels so you don’t accidentally share anything. Don’t even have IRL friends call you your real name in the server because the second you fuck up, people are going to be digging as hard as they can to find even the slightest bit of information to share about you with the whole world.
I have actually witnessed people use others’ doxes as leverage in negotiating deals. You would be surprised at the lengths some people would go to “win.”
Copy Others
I'm sure that you have noticed that in my example pictures they all have a similar type of writing in the sense that they seem to be almost all the same. This is because, in reality, nobody is actually typing up all their descriptions and rules. This is why copying other servers’ information, formats, websites, etc. is a proven method. It is important, however, that you don’t copy exactly, because this will simply ruin your reputation as a reputable vendor.
So if you need help with how to do something or you don’t know where to move forward, look at other providers’ servers and what they have to offer. I also want to mention that all of my example images were taken from random cheat servers that I found on Discord in the span of 10 minutes, so it shouldn’t be too hard once you get the hang of it and know where to look.
Conclusion
Knowing that most of you guys are retards who will stay poor and never use this I doubt that this will reach out to too many of you, but if you are serious about this it is important to acknowledge that depending on how fast you grow or what circumstances you may face, you might have a different outline that you have to follow and that's perfectly fine. Or if you can't keep up with demand maybe you do the steps in a different process. Honestly I don't care. But don't forget to have fun, because honestly speaking, in those 2 years that I sold cheats, I had some of the most fun that I did in my whole life.
Credit to ChatGPT and Claude for helping me fix all my grammar and spelling mistakes as well
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