Update on ramieri result(80k euro surgery guy)

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What a ascension, jaw surgery really is a god surgery :feelsautistic:
 
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Bro didn't even try getting lean. Like I cannot tell the difference in his bones at all.
He would have had a better result if he shaved out that stupid beard, got at ten percent body fat and got in a rhinoplasty.
 
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Bro didn't even try getting lean. Like I cannot tell the difference in his bones at all.
He would have had a better result if he shaved out that stupid beard, got at ten percent body fat and got in a rhinoplasty.
4 weeks post op tho so hard to get lean
 
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Me looking for the ascention in question:
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4 weeks post op tho so hard to get lean
I meant he wasn't even lean before. Like getting jaw surgery before getting lean and seeing what your bone structure actually looks like is crazy.
 
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@lurking truecel What do you think would have ascended him the most?
 
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He said it was 30k
 
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Bimax + lipo at ram 30k, then he went to taban for infras cantho etc 25k, hair transplant etc
Man this shit is so scary. On paper he should have ascended , but he is now just short eighty thousand dollars and didn't make any difference. Are jaw implants the only way to actually ascend?
 
@lurking truecel What do you think would have ascended him the most?
Prob a neck lift, more aggressive infra nd fat graft + lower eyelid retraction as he got. Maybe buccal fat if he cant get leaner
 
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looks better in the before jfl
 
Man this shit is so scary. On paper he should have ascended , but he is now just short eighty thousand dollars and didn't make any difference. Are jaw implants the only way to actually ascend?
bro he was clearly not a bimax candidate, maybe downward rotation genio at max. i dont even know what taban did there cuz eyes didnt change either. bro got back to back scammed and flew across the world for that crazy
 
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Tbh the bimax had the effect it is supposed to, lip assessments and chin looks better, philtrum and maxilla area looks less flat. But obviously he had no chance of ascending with bimax. I don't think there was much wrong done in the surgery, the mistake was going for it in the first place.
 
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I think it’s best to accept that in most cases all you can really do is correct any obvious failos.

Beyond that it’s higher ROI to money and statusmaxx
 
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Brutal Lip Pill
 
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I think it’s best to accept that in most cases all you can really do is correct any obvious failos.

Beyond that it’s higher ROI to money and statusmaxx
Yea I mean, at least personally I have viewed looksmaxxing as a defensive rather than offensive strategy. You should be trying to fix every weak point and then get out, not trying to create strong points out of thin air. I think people who don't think like this are at risk of being botch cases.
 
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Yea I mean, at least personally I have viewed looksmaxxing as a defensive rather than offensive strategy. You should be trying to fix every weak point and then get out, not trying to create strong points out of thin air. I think people who don't think like this are at risk of being botch cases.
I've seen so many people who have already had surgery undergo more aggressive implants or even osteotomies like LF2 and LF3 with Giant, and then face the consequences. They will never be happy, because it just isn't possible to become Chad.

Do things the right way once, then forget about it and live your life. The key phrase is the right way. I think you can definitely work with a competent maxillofacial surgeon who is aesthetics focussed and they can figure out the best movements for you. But almost nobody seems to understand how to do implants the right way. Eppley keeps doing the same bullshit, Giant seems to be experimenting on his lab rats as he slowly gets better and better. Maybe I will give it a shot lol.
 
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I think it’s best to accept that in most cases all you can really do is correct any obvious failos.

Beyond that it’s higher ROI to money and statusmaxx
Good point
 
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@lurking truecel What do you think would have ascended him the most?
Prob a neck lift, more aggressive infra nd fat graft + lower eyelid retraction as he got. Maybe buccal fat if he cant get leaner
I thought he needed way bigger movements, for both maxilla and mandible, from the side you basically can't even see the difference

i agree with infras and buccal fat removal (but partial one)

And definitely something for the lips
 
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I think it’s best to accept that in most cases all you can really do is correct any obvious failos.

Beyond that it’s higher ROI to money and statusmaxx
Have to agree with this

Implants or fillers seem to be the only thing that can give you the biggest difference in before/after, but then again, the more you do it, the more you risk looking uncanny or being botched


We can't all become chads unfortunately
 
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I thought he needed way bigger movements, for both maxilla and mandible, from the side you basically can't even see the difference

i agree with infras and buccal fat removal (but partial one)

And definitely something for the lips
:what:give him more maxilla and he will be a chimp. He wasnt a obvious bimax case. His jaw is strong, his maxilla isnt lacking projection but probably width and mass towards the eyes. And lip widening doesnt really exsist
 
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Have to agree with this

Implants or fillers seem to be the only thing that can give you the biggest difference in before/after, but then again, the more you do it, the more you risk looking uncanny or being botched


We can't all become chads unfortunately
I think most people are just very bad in their own judgement in how they look and ehat they should focus on. Most people need someone to tell them the highest roi. But often they wont listen. And its true for myself and i have seen it in most others aswell. It doesnt mean you cant spot the failos but the surgery plans often sucks in roi because the focus is on a specific thing that isnt really the problem. This guy forgot that soft tissue exsisted but looked at the ct scan
 
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I think most people are just very bad in their own judgement in how they look and ehat they should focus on. Most people need someone to tell them the highest roi. But often they wont listen. And its true for myself and i have seen it in most others aswell. It doesnt mean you cant spot the failos but the surgery plans often sucks in roi because the focus is on a specific thing that isnt really the problem. This guy forgot that soft tissue exsisted but looked at the ct scan
i asked you a while ago my highets roi you said leforte , cantho and fat grafting
and thats what i am getting :)
 
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