Using the more common easy programming langauges like (python and js) are better then C++ for entry level jobs

[Deleted member 11126]

I started my journey with C/C++ it was useful since it says a lot about the fundamentals of coding. But the issue is no one will hire some kid to do C++. Everyone doing those jobs has 8 years experience. No one will trust you to do it and you are competing with more senior people since they tend to occupy these positions.

The most straight forward pathway rn is a boring web dev job. I still think in 3-4 months I can get a job from this but I had to rethink my strategy

 

[Deleted member 11126]

I just realized no one wants to hire you if your super young no college and talking about knowing an advanced language. Most of those guys learned this stuff later on or are older so competition is brutal.


Better to shoot lower but actually get a job then work for 2 years in the hopes of getting hired. Its always better to get payed while you learn/improve. Learning or studying should be used to get the quickest result so you can practice in a meaningful way. If you just learn for the sake of learning you are masterbating the best objective way to show something works is if people will pay you for it.

 

[floppa]

I started my journey with C/C++ it was useful since it says a lot about the fundamentals of coding. But the issue is no one will hire some kid to do C++. Everyone doing those jobs has 8 years experience. No one will trust you to do it and you are competing with more senior people since they tend to occupy these positions.

The most straight forward pathway rn is a boring web dev job. I still think in 3-4 months I can get a job from this but I had to rethink my strategy

So I need to spend 3 years in highschool programming course then spend another 4 for university degree?

 

[Zer0/∞]

can you get an entry lvl online job?

 

[Deleted member 11126]

So I need to spend 3 years in highschool programming course then spend another 4 for university degree?

Yeah employers won't trust you... Just get a part time job while you study at Uni doing web dev then you have 4 year exp and a degree

 

[Deleted member 11126]

can you get an entry lvl online job?

In 6-9 months I think most people can if they are reasonable smart and hardworking. 3-6 months if you can code somewhat already.

 

[floppa]

Yeah employers won't trust you... Just get a part time job while you study at Uni doing web dev then you have 4 year exp and a degree

Brah what the fuck I'll be 23 by then that's 7 years of School

 

[floppa]

Brah what the fuck I'll be 23 by then that's 7 years of School

I already choose the programming course in high school but they teach at an extremely slow pace like it's been 3 months since school and the shit they've thought could have been learned in a week

 

[Deleted member 11126]

Brah what the fuck I'll be 23 by then that's 7 years of School

Whats your goal then I am confused?

 

[floppa]

Whats your goal then I am confused?

Right now don't know which path I'll choose but they're teaching c in school, I think I'll learn the basics of c within a month so school isn't a problem and then focus on c++ or python

 

[Deleted member 11126]

Right now don't know which path I'll choose but they're teaching c in school, I think I'll learn the basics of c within a month so school isn't a problem and then focus on c++ or python

Learning C/C++ is useful. Most good programmers will need to understand it at some point, If your goal is a job within less then a year not going to happen.

Less people know how to do it and the people that do are generally more advanced. I am taking a quick path because I need a job to pay me through school. I work a shitty retail job web dev will teach me things instead of wasting my time and pay my bills. I will have to come back to C/C++ at some point for sure if you don't have any plans to get a job in the next 2 years then learn whatever you want. Otherwise you need to learn the easiest things like Web Dev.

 

[johnsmithcel]

are you scared about getting cucked by AI? Coding was easy money for so long but i'm afraid that's coming to an end and only the top 10% mega autists will remain needed.

 

[JohnDoe]

You are correct. C++ seems to have a higher ceiling but i think it's better to start off as python/etc and then eventually move onto that if you're interested in it. I see python job contracts paying 300-500/day and you need like 3 years experience. Python might be the most useful language to learn to ease the process of finding a job. Web dev seems saturated and boring but it's obviously useful in a lot of ways.

 

[JohnDoe]

are you scared about getting cucked by AI? Coding was easy money for so long but i'm afraid that's coming to an end and only the top 10% autists will remain needed.

Stupid fearmongering, nothing will change. That AI can barely do anything that isn't very basic, anything more and it requires human supervision//input.

 

[johnsmithcel]

Stupid fearmongering, nothing will change. That AI can barely do anything that isn't very basic, anything more and it requires human supervision//input.

yeah, right now. What about in 10 years? This shit evolves fast. Look at art AI.

 

[Deleted member 11126]

are you scared about getting cucked by AI? Coding was easy money for so long but i'm afraid that's coming to an end and only the top 10% autists will remain needed.

Open AI is a good tool but it can't answer Calc questions. It also gets a lot of things wrong, It will probably get rid of Indian devs and it will make debugging a lot easier but as long as you aren't literally copying and pasting from stackoverflow for every single thing its not that simple.

Basically just don't be in the bottom 20%

 

[floppa]

Learning C/C++ is useful. Most good programmers will need to understand it at some point, If your goal is a job within less then a year not going to happen.

Less people know how to do it and the people that do are generally more advanced. I am taking a quick path because I need a job to pay me through school. I work a shitty retail job web dev will teach me things instead of wasting my time and pay my bills. I will have to come back to C/C++ at some point for sure if you don't have any plans to get a job in the next 2 years then learn whatever you want. Otherwise you need to learn the easiest things like Web Dev.

I don't need quick path because I'm 15 and can properly programmaxx, but the fact I have to spend 3 years in this shitty school and then another 3 or 4 in university just to be viable for a job really makes me question if programming is for me

 

[JohnDoe]

yeah, right now. What about in 10 years? This shit evolves fast. Look at art AI.

10 years? maybe things will change a little but A.I will never truly replace programming jobs and in 10 years time anyone who isn't double digit IQ will have positioned themselves where they are not in danger of losing their job.

 

[Deleted member 11126]

You are correct. C++ seems to have a higher ceiling but i think it's better to start off as python/etc and then eventually move onto that if you're interested in it. I see python job contracts paying 300-500/day and you need like 3 years experience. Python might be the most useful language to learn to ease the process of finding a job. Web dev seems saturated and boring but it's obviously useful in a lot of ways.

I think web dev may be the easiest entry job. A lot of the skills do translate over too,

I was learning C++ because every nerd was saying its the best langauge and its the fundamentals. They aren't wrong you will learn more but whats the point if you don't get a job? I don't want to wait 4-5 years after college is over to get my first job. I want a part time job while at school the easiest way to know your good or improving is to see if people will actually pay for what you can do. Sadly most will assume a 20 year old is a shit C++ dev the average person there is also 30 years old.

 

[Deleted member 11126]

yeah, right now. What about in 10 years? This shit evolves fast. Look at art AI.

AI fear porn has some truth to it. But I think if it gets past a certain point it literally won't matter. If it gets advanced enough then every job will be automated given enough time.

Whether that will happen or not is still not clear. But I do think repetitive jobs will be and competent people will be able to do the work of 10 people soon.

 

[JohnDoe]

I think web dev may be the easiest entry job. A lot of the skills do translate over too,

I was learning C++ because every nerd was saying its the best langauge and its the fundamentals. They aren't wrong you will learn more but whats the point if you don't get a job? I don't want to wait 4-5 years after college is over to get my first job. I want a part time job while at school the easiest way to know your good or improving is to see if people will actually pay for what you can do. Sadly most will assume a 20 year old is a shit C++ dev the average person there is also 30 years old.

Web-dev just seems like the default go-to in current year whether it's total normalfags who suddenly decided they want to get into the I.T/Tech industry or NEETs/experienced computer users who want to learn skills and get a career. It seems saturated with millions of pajeets doing web-dev and just seems boring and not that highly paid outside of America. The competition for web-dev will be massive compared to something like Cloud engineering which seems a lot better.

 

[johnsmithcel]

AI fear porn has some truth to it. But I think if it gets past a certain point it literally won't matter. If it gets advanced enough then every job will be automated given enough time.

Whether that will happen or not is still not clear. But I do think repetitive jobs will be and competent people will be able to do the work of 10 people soon.

Won't that shit have to be regulated in some way? What happens when all the wagie jobs will be automated and the low IQ people won't have any work? Won't there be wagie uprisings?

 

[Deleted member 11126]

Web-dev just seems like the default go-to in current year whether it's total normalfags who suddenly decided they want to get into the I.T/Tech industry or NEETs/experienced computer users who want to learn skills and get a career. It seems saturated with millions of pajeets doing web-dev and just seems boring and not that highly paid outside of America. The competition for web-dev will be massive compared to something like Cloud engineering which seems a lot better.

Its not meant to be something you do forever. Its an entry job that you can use to apply to better ones. I also understand the markets may be different outside of America.

In Europe it might not be worthwhile.

 

[Deleted member 11126]

Won't that shit have to be regulated in some way? What happens when all the wagie jobs will be automated and the low IQ people won't have any work? Won't there be wagie uprisings?

Permanent Ubi class most likely. Sorta like ready player one neets living in shitty pods in the metaverse

 

[Deleted member 11126]

I don't need quick path because I'm 15 and can properly programmaxx, but the fact I have to spend 3 years in this shitty school and then another 3 or 4 in university just to be viable for a job really makes me question if programming is for me

Thats sorta everything man. Idk where you live so can't comment on how jobs are. The tech lottery is the USA and some Western/Asian countries.

 

[floppa]

Thats sorta everything man. Idk where you live so can't comment on how jobs are. The tech lottery is the USA and some Western/Asian countries.

I live in Portugal but fuck this country can't deal with the slave wages when the 3 years of School ends I'll come to the us and go to university

 

[Deleted member 11126]

I live in Portugal but fuck this country can't deal with the slave wages when the 3 years of School ends I'll come to the us and go to university

That's not a bad idea. Your 15 and already thinking about this so way ahead of the crown. My recommendation is learn C/C++ then try to get a job at 17-18 in web dev you should be able to learn it in 6 months if you know C++. Then work while in college.

I'm not getting a CS major probably a math major or MIS.